@jqubed I want to know how to create useless strikethrough font on my reply. I have tried 47 useless keyboard shortcuts practicing...please teach me your magic!
@awk SRSLY - if for nothing else even the craptasticist tacked-on oven broiler element is good for browning a frozen pizza in the last 2-3 minutes of cooking. Im[press y0our friends!
@justan79 Just throwing this out there - sorry if you have, and please don't be insulted - but have you ever cleaned the kitchen really well? Something's burning to set it off, and if it's not the food you're broiling, it's gunk that's in the oven.
Smart TVs are damn near worthless tech. I'm a firm believer of separation of duties when it comes to my entertainment system. I just want my TV to display a picture. I'll use a different device of my choosing that is built for acquiring the content.
@SpenceMan01 Personally, I want everything in my home to be easily hacked, require constant software updates, and to display marketing from today's hottest brands.
Oh, and if it could lock me into a large technology company's ecosystem that would be awesome too.
@thismyusername I call B.S. That's just marketing hype and FUD. Even if the security on a TV is crap, who cares? Any "attacker" has to get past your WiFi password in order to "attack" your TV. So as long as you have a secure WiFi PW, your TV introduces zero risk to your home network.
@iwicfm666 Does your TV have a web browser, or something that view user-generated content? That gets you very close (perfectly close in the case of a web browser).
@iwicfm666 if you were trolling fine ignore this, but if not...
the general issue with "smart" tvs is that they never consider security when designing them... and they also quit updating them very early into their lifespan.
so far "smart" tvs have had holes that, among other things, allow any random person to access the built in mics and cameras, allow any random person to install their own firmware on the tv (this basically gives the attacker a base that sits inside your home network), allow any random person to install nefarious apps, allow any random person to steal username and passwords for various services. in all the cases they didn't need to be on the local network (wired or wireless) they could do it all from the comfort of their own home, anywhere on earth, in their undies... they didn't even care if you had wifi enabled in your home.
if you don't use any apps on your "smart" tv, I would disconnect it from your network, if you do... make sure it's up to date (assuming they are even making updates - if it's over a year old, you're most likely out of luck)... and cross your fingers :)
"smart" tvs are not alone in bad security design... they are just ones that have clearly messed up in a giant way over and over, and they don't seem to even care enough to send out a patch to disable or fix the issues... they are a bad role-model in the security space.
but totally worth it... I mean who can deal with a non connected water pot these days? I mean how would you ever know when it's ready... if only there was a way... :)
@Kidsandliz Funny, the reason we got this one is because an ex-employee burned popcorn in the old one so badly that it was completely ruined. Smoke was billowing out into the hall and at least three floors of our building complained about the smell. But the sprinklers didn't go off, thank goodness.
Theory has it, my microwave can do all sorts of nifty stuff like delay a while before cooking something and running for increments of just one second. So they say.
No light-effect speakers or smart TV, so for me its egg cups in the fridge. Siri is very helpful for basic tasks, and the broiler is awesome for finishing slow cooked ribs, and several kinds of fish filets.
Hmmm ... no speaker with light show here. Fridge doesn't have egg cups. Microwave has a bunch of extra buttons, but no "add a minute". I do use Cortana from time to time. No smart TV here. And I do use the broiler.
The only one that I use is the Netflix app on the TV. The stove came without a broiler pan, the fridge came without egg cups, and my speakers don't have lights.
My TV is dumb (but my Xbox One is not), my fridge doesn't have egg cups and my speaker docks from Meh do not have lights. I use all the weird buttons on my microwave and I use Siri. I think I'm going to go with broiler here - or like someone else said, the oven in general.
I have read that it is bad to just open a microwave door while it is running without hitting "stop" or "pause" first. Not because of radiation, but it is bad for the magnetron and the safety switch in the microwave and can cause premature failure.
@cinoclav I'm not sure here, but I'm guessing hitting the stop button gives it a smoother shut-down than the emergency stop needed to prevent radiation from being broadcast outside the oven.
@jsh139@jqubed I tend not to believe 99% of repair guys. There is no wind down process to a magnetron just because you set a timer. It's on and producing electrons or it's off. There's no difference between the end of a timer cycle and opening the door except the timer triggers a lovely little buzzer to alert you that your pot pie is ready! When you set the power level to something intermediate it's actually cycling the power to the cathode off and on during the cooking process. It's not reducing the actual output as a ratio to the programmed power level.
@rockblossom Better than that - porn that gives you the option of sharing it to social media sites. Y'know, not that I've ever watched porn or anything...
Don't have light up speakers or egg cups in my fridge. Don't have a microwave or a TV. Use my broiler all the time to make toast. So, Siri it is, that thing that eats away at my spacebar with its transcription button. Immediate feature disable.
@jqubed I reheat leftovers in the oven, or steamed in a pot with a tiny amount of water, depending on the leftovers. Very, very rarely has microwaved food that… reminded me of food. And reheating food the traditional way really does not take long at all.
Toast under the broiler takes very little time. Granted, it is almost certainly less efficient than a toaster. But I use so little gas (despite that I cook at least one meal with my stove/oven every day) that I'm constantly just paying the minimum charge. And, toasting without a toaster means not having yet another single-use appliance consuming precious space.
Not only do I use the broiler in my oven, I use the broiler in my toaster oven. For that special cheesy goodness.
My microwave adds in 30 second increments but some things are perfect at 40-45 seconds. Otherwise they're still cold or overcooked. I also use medium power to thaw frozen foods. Before finishing them under the broiler.
However, I never understood egg cups in modern fridges. Maybe fifty years ago but these days, unless you live on a farm, eggs are sold in packaging that looks a lot like those fridge egg cups.
@cranky1950 Someone in France - dunno who - makes a classic thick copper saute pan lined with sterling silver. It cooks gorgeously. Just take a 2nd mortgage on your mansion if you wanna own one.
My highly useful broiler always sets off my smoke detectors
The highly useful broiler onyour oven@jqubed I want to know how to create useless strikethrough font on my reply. I have tried 47 useless keyboard shortcuts practicing...please teach me your
magic!@jqubed I edited my post so many times looking for the answer I got locked out from editing it any more. Didn't even know that was a thing.
How bout all of the above?
@nogoodwithnames You are correct!
All of the above.
People don't use their broilers? Really?
HOW DO YOU BROIL STUFF
@awk as noted, using my broiler forces me to use my smoke detector. So...no.
It means I don't get to broil stuff. :(
@awk I use my broiler to reheat pizza, it's great
@awk I used mine all the time when i had one. Now it's a setting on my oven that i still use often
@awk SRSLY - if for nothing else even the craptasticist tacked-on oven broiler element is good for browning a frozen pizza in the last 2-3 minutes of cooking. Im[press y0our friends!
@justan79 Just throwing this out there - sorry if you have, and please don't be insulted - but have you ever cleaned the kitchen really well? Something's burning to set it off, and if it's not the food you're broiling, it's gunk that's in the oven.
@awk Breville, baby! My favorite kitchen purchase ever.
@B_T thanks but it's as clean as it can get. But it's an old oven that came with the place.
To be honest, it doesn't smoke or anything. It feels almost as if the heat from the broiler is setting it off.
@B_T Agreed. Absolutely love my Breville oven.
Smart TVs are damn near worthless tech. I'm a firm believer of separation of duties when it comes to my entertainment system. I just want my TV to display a picture. I'll use a different device of my choosing that is built for acquiring the content.
@SpenceMan01 How dare you... smart TV's are the perfect attack vector in most home networks. Good day sir.
@SpenceMan01 Personally, I want everything in my home to be easily hacked, require constant software updates, and to display marketing from today's hottest brands.
Oh, and if it could lock me into a large technology company's ecosystem that would be awesome too.
@awk
Too right!
@thismyusername I call B.S. That's just marketing hype and FUD. Even if the security on a TV is crap, who cares? Any "attacker" has to get past your WiFi password in order to "attack" your TV. So as long as you have a secure WiFi PW, your TV introduces zero risk to your home network.
@iwicfm666
@iwicfm666 Does your TV have a web browser, or something that view user-generated content? That gets you very close (perfectly close in the case of a web browser).
@iwicfm666 if you were trolling fine ignore this, but if not...
the general issue with "smart" tvs is that they never consider security when designing them... and they also quit updating them very early into their lifespan.
so far "smart" tvs have had holes that, among other things, allow any random person to access the built in mics and cameras, allow any random person to install their own firmware on the tv (this basically gives the attacker a base that sits inside your home network), allow any random person to install nefarious apps, allow any random person to steal username and passwords for various services. in all the cases they didn't need to be on the local network (wired or wireless) they could do it all from the comfort of their own home, anywhere on earth, in their undies... they didn't even care if you had wifi enabled in your home.
if you don't use any apps on your "smart" tv, I would disconnect it from your network, if you do... make sure it's up to date (assuming they are even making updates - if it's over a year old, you're most likely out of luck)... and cross your fingers :)
"smart" tvs are not alone in bad security design... they are just ones that have clearly messed up in a giant way over and over, and they don't seem to even care enough to send out a patch to disable or fix the issues... they are a bad role-model in the security space.
@thismyusername
Not sure of facts here, but heard that a buncha people got their homes hacked in England after purchasing a wi-fi tea kettle/pot.
@f00l appears to be real
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/19/bods_brew_ikettle_20_hack_plot_vulnerable_london_pots/
but totally worth it... I mean who can deal with a non connected water pot these days? I mean how would you ever know when it's ready... if only there was a way... :)
@thismyusername like this? https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401059/coffee-cam/
At work we got a microwave with a broiler in it. I have yet to bring anything to broil to work, but I fully intend to try it.
@djslack bring an umbrella too if you set off the smoke detector and sprinkler system
@Kidsandliz Funny, the reason we got this one is because an ex-employee burned popcorn in the old one so badly that it was completely ruined. Smoke was billowing out into the hall and at least three floors of our building complained about the smell. But the sprinklers didn't go off, thank goodness.
@djslack Ex-employee? Scapegoat. This sounds like C-level work.
Definitely... All of the above!!! I was laughing at each of the available responses, and nodding at all of them, love it! đŸ™‚
Theory has it, my microwave can do all sorts of nifty stuff like delay a while before cooking something and running for increments of just one second. So they say.
a vehicle's cruise control.
@elimanningface Just think of Cruise as anti-leadfoot.
It's saved my butt many times.
Belly buttons?
No light-effect speakers or smart TV, so for me its egg cups in the fridge. Siri is very helpful for basic tasks, and the broiler is awesome for finishing slow cooked ribs, and several kinds of fish filets.
Hmmm ... no speaker with light show here. Fridge doesn't have egg cups. Microwave has a bunch of extra buttons, but no "add a minute". I do use Cortana from time to time. No smart TV here. And I do use the broiler.
Great.
now I want egg cups on my broiler...
@El_Oel Does your broiler activate by voice command? Or with an outdated app?
@narfcake It did when I first got married.
@El_Oel Be nice now ...
@narfcake I was told that then, as well.
Then I found myself outdating.
@El_Oel
App-enabled egg cups in the broiler pls.
@f00l #makeamericagreatagain
@f00l Not for the broiler, but there is an app enabled refrigerator egg tray.
@narfcake
Yeah, i think one of the oh-so-trite-humorous reviews is mine.
The only one that I use is the Netflix app on the TV. The stove came without a broiler pan, the fridge came without egg cups, and my speakers don't have lights.
@olperfesser Jesus, where do live, District 9?
My TV is dumb (but my Xbox One is not), my fridge doesn't have egg cups and my speaker docks from Meh do not have lights. I use all the weird buttons on my microwave and I use Siri. I think I'm going to go with broiler here - or like someone else said, the oven in general.
I have read that it is bad to just open a microwave door while it is running without hitting "stop" or "pause" first. Not because of radiation, but it is bad for the magnetron and the safety switch in the microwave and can cause premature failure.
@jsh139 Isn't hitting the Stop button essentially doing the same thing? Both trigger it to immediately stop it's function.
@cinoclav I'm not sure here, but I'm guessing hitting the stop button gives it a smoother shut-down than the emergency stop needed to prevent radiation from being broadcast outside the oven.
@cinoclav I thought so too, but that's what the repair guy told me as he was replacing the magnetron in my microwave last year :P
@jsh139 @jqubed I tend not to believe 99% of repair guys. There is no wind down process to a magnetron just because you set a timer. It's on and producing electrons or it's off. There's no difference between the end of a timer cycle and opening the door except the timer triggers a lovely little buzzer to alert you that your pot pie is ready! When you set the power level to something intermediate it's actually cycling the power to the cathode off and on during the cooking process. It's not reducing the actual output as a ratio to the programmed power level.
All those handy buttons/icons on commercial websites that say "Like us on Facebook!"
@rockblossom Better than that - porn that gives you the option of sharing it to social media sites. Y'know, not that I've ever watched porn or anything...
My brain.
Also other peoples' brains. It's kinda a "thing".
@f00l Take care not to become a zombie. You might develop a fondness for brains.
@rockblossom
Thx for warning. If i become a zombie, will try to be a vegetarian zombie.
Not sure how to do it, zombies keep that info v scarce.
@f00l they say it's an acquired taste
@TexMehx Possibly my favorite woot shirt purchase ever.
Don't have light up speakers or egg cups in my fridge. Don't have a microwave or a TV. Use my broiler all the time to make toast. So, Siri it is, that thing that eats away at my spacebar with its transcription button. Immediate feature disable.
@brhfl No microwave?! In this day and age?! How do you survive? How do you reheat leftovers?
Also, you can use the broiler to make toast? That sounds like it would use a lot more energy than a countertop toaster.
@jqubed I reheat leftovers in the oven, or steamed in a pot with a tiny amount of water, depending on the leftovers. Very, very rarely has microwaved food that… reminded me of food. And reheating food the traditional way really does not take long at all.
Toast under the broiler takes very little time. Granted, it is almost certainly less efficient than a toaster. But I use so little gas (despite that I cook at least one meal with my stove/oven every day) that I'm constantly just paying the minimum charge. And, toasting without a toaster means not having yet another single-use appliance consuming precious space.
Not only do I use the broiler in my oven, I use the broiler in my toaster oven. For that special cheesy goodness.
My microwave adds in 30 second increments but some things are perfect at 40-45 seconds. Otherwise they're still cold or overcooked. I also use medium power to thaw frozen foods. Before finishing them under the broiler.
However, I never understood egg cups in modern fridges. Maybe fifty years ago but these days, unless you live on a farm, eggs are sold in packaging that looks a lot like those fridge egg cups.
@TexMehx they're for liquid eggs.
Gee i just relized how amish that I really am, I use none of those things. O woe is I. k
I really want a copper ceramic fry pan though.
@cranky1950
Someone in France - dunno who - makes a classic thick copper saute pan lined with sterling silver.
It cooks gorgeously. Just take a 2nd mortgage on your mansion if you wanna own one.
ATM machines. Haven't touched one since 1985.
@radi0j0hn Good ol' ATM Ms.
@radi0j0hn
Everyone has to use their PIN number on the ATM machines.
Everyone has to use their personal identification number number on the automated teller machine machines.
:)
@brhfl @thismyusername: RAS syndrome.