@onae TRASH, they don’t list the lumens which is telling. 221 Lumens, which is equivilent to a 25w light, that’s like 2 candles, you better have a dark room to play this in. I have a projector with 4000 Lumen, I wouldn’t use anything less honestly.
@5in1k@onae
If I’m reading [this article][1] correctly, your 25W bulb is SI lumens, which isn’t the same as ANSI lumens. 200 ANSI lumens
(from the spec sheet) equates to 3333 - 4000 SI (bulb) lumens (ANSI lumens)/.04(or.06).
@5in1k@onae@unlikely quality is good. Looks 1080p. Perfect black room obviously best but it does fine on cloudy day in my big room with many windows. We don’t want to watch a ton of tv if it’s bright outside anyways. First time I tried I was shocked pleasantly with the quality. It’s clunky interface, mono speaker, not top of the line and was $20 cheaper on meh over a year ago. The screen they send is utter trash.
@thechinglish I’m pretty sure this is the same price for the same item they have sitting on sidedeal. Stop basically you could have bought this at any time for the same price over there.
@elliedan@meh@thechinglish What is the difference between SideDeal and MorningSave? MS seems to be clothing with some of the electronics you would expect from SD from what I can tell. Does that sum it up?
What is the difference between SideDeal and MorningSave?
Morningsave is the land of crap shilled by bouncy bubbly blondes doing As Seen on TV infomercials during morning programming. SideDeal is less puffed and primped
@SnakeJG Assuming they’ve got it all correct here, they provide a lot of good info.
Generally if you see lumens, led lumens, marketing lumens or lux in the specs – this is a red flag. A claim of 7000 lumens is likely to be equivalent to something like 200-400 ANSI lumens while lux has nothing to do with lumens and should probably be avoided. If the projector you are looking at is quoting brightness using one of these measures then the advice is to find a review online which gives the ANSI spec so you know what you are buying and can compare projectors in a meaningful way. The nerd bit
And also…
100 – 400 ANSI lumens: Capable of a small (40” or less) image in a room with ambient light or a larger (80”) image in a dark room
So it seems like this should be of at least reasonable quality.
Would this be good to run outside in my front yard? Sometimes we like to watch hard core porn. Would be nice out in the front yard so the neighbors could enjoy as well. Thoughts anyone?
@bugger Nope, You’ll need the p0rnBoz 4000 and the Mastourbater XL unless you want them to have a subpar viewing, but my neighbors seem to appreciate my investment.
V600 specs say 200 ANSI Lumens.
Projection Size: 50"- 300"
Projection Distance: 5.58 FT - 30.18 FT
Or as a shortcut:
Distance = (size in inches / 10) in feet
Is 200 lumens bright enough for a projector?
TL;DR: Not even close. Unless you’re in a dark room, preferably Vantablack™, with the smallest 50" screen size (projector is 5ft away) it will probably be a less that satisfying experience.
In other words, perfect for Meh!
From Quora (Michael Cho):
The reality is that it all depends on your ambient light environment, content, and screen size.
Back when projectors were first released, they topped out at 150–200 lumens. This meant that you needed a completely darkened environment.
We measure projectors today with both lumen and screen size. So lets say you have a screen size of 100″ in 16:9 format. That means you’ll have a screen area of around 360 sq/ft. That will give you basically 360/200 or .5 lumens per square foot. To give you an idea of the luminance of that, its equal to the power of of half a candle at 1 foot. Not ideal.
Today’s projectors that are used in any kind of real world application start at 3000 lumens. That gives you 8 lumens per sq ft. That would be a minimum brightness you would want to have with any lights turned on or a screen size 100″ or larger.
@mike808@sflesch Sure but that source you listed is working in “lumens” which means Light Source Lumens when not qualified. 200 ANSI Lumens is about 6,000 light source lumens. Now, understand that I don’t think this Vanko is putting out 6,000 light source lumens by any stretch.
You can’t mix “lumens”, ANSI lumens and LED Lumens.
@mike808@ohhwell So, I’m trying to learn. This article says to convert SI (Light Source) Lumens, divide ANSI by .04 to .06 depending on the manufacturer, which would be between 3,333 and 4,000. Does that sound like a more reasonable number?
@mike808@sflesch Yes, that does sound way more reasonable and I would go with the lower figure at best. I guess I have to blame the online converters for that 6k figure.
It’s an absolute mess the way projector brightness is measured. I wish they would all just use ANSI lumens, even the big names like Epson and Panasonic. The little chinese cheap stuff manufacturers including Vankyo got hit with a lawsuit from Epson a while back for using “lux” lol. I like how they grudgingly list ANSI lumens now!
I might bring home a modern Epson projector and see how the brightness compares to my eyes out of curiosity.
@mike808@ohhwell I ordered the Vankyo off SideDeal a few days ago. I might bring it into work and compare to an older one I have here. I think it’s Hitachi.
@mike808@sflesch Yeah it would be very interesting to see how it compares. I mean, if it’s a nice enough projector at work there will likely not be much of a comparison though lol.
I found it cheaper on another website. They ask for your full name credit card info and social security number. Once you put in your bank routing number, address, favorite color & drivers licence number you get the 10% off coupon. Think it’s worth it?
This is a much better cheap projector than I expected. 200 ANSI lumens is plenty for outdoors after dusk or indoors in a darkened room.
I believe there is one in depth review on YouTube and I pretty much concur with it.
The main downside is of course the lack of edge sharpness like every other cheap projector. The colors are not perfect but I doubt most people would notice without an a/b comparison.
The built in speaker is WAY better than expected. Unfortunately though, I ran into a lot of noise when using the 1/8" trs jack to connect to an external speaker. That was dissapointing.
The screen… It’s odd in that it is very stretchy and is also pretty thin. I used the strechiness to my advantage though and stretched it out a bit on the wall in the back yard. The border is nothing resembling a rectangle anymore but the screen is pretty gland certainly beats projecting right onto the off-white stucco.
I am pretty sure this combo was $10 cheaper when I bought it from meh.
I bought this when it was offered previously and it’s a great deal. Use it for parties, outdoor, kids play room. Needs a darkened room, though. Picture is bright and reasonably sharp.
Specs claim a VGA output which uses a DB25 connector but the picture shows a DB9 which is normally used for a serial connection. Perhaps just an “artist’s rendition.”
@HankB33 Both video reviews linked in some other comments show the VGA port, though the PulsarTECH oddly enough at one angle during the video almost looked like it had two rows of pins instead of three.
I’ve had one of these for a couple of years. As long as you understand what it is, it is not a bad deal. Of course, you have to first acknowledge that this is a cheap chinese projector, and not a real brand. If you look online you can find multiple other “brands” selling a projector that looks the same but with different color plastic. And of course, these chinese manufacturers are know to change components without warning, so the V600 I have may not be the same as the one being sold today.
My use for this projector is as a disposable projector, used in places where a better, more expensive projector would probably fail and void the warranty. Specifically, I use it outdoors to watch movies from my pool and hot tube, and the humidity and chlorine fumes are a real hazard. This projector has no real usable warranty, is not designed to be serviced, and does not have a sealed light path. It WILL get dusty and have no way to clean or repair it.
That said, for a projector under $100, This is far from the worst I’ve seen. It is bright enough to use outdoors on a 8 ft screen, the USB port has enough power for a fire stick, and it has an audio out that I can run into a powered speaker. It has decent color accuracy, watchable contrast, and relatively low lag if you play games on it (calibrates out to about 22 ms using a game like rock band). It also has a decent refresh rate, so you don’t see a lot of motion trails or tearing.
The main downside is the optics. It has a hardware keystone correction, but to mount the projector completely above or below the screen and adjust the keystone, the focus does not stay uniform across the image. The center will be in focus but not the edges, which can make it hard to read subtitles on some movies. If you don’t have to go to the top or bottom extent, it does stay relatively uniform in focus. And, I did have to return the first one I got, one corner of the image was never in focus with the rest of the image. I think that was just damage from shipping though.
Overall, if you recognize the limitations of this projector, and don’t expect performance like a $1000 or even $500 brand name projector, this can be a fun toy for a few months or maybe a couple of years, depending on how you use it.
A recent review. Probably overly enthusiastic, but as I don’t have one of these (and plan to continue that lack), I do not have an authoritative opinion.
I bought this guy last time, and am generally happy with it for the price. It’s not a “travel” projector, but has better resolution & brightness than my last one (Vankyo Leisure 410).
Wish I hadn’t gotten it. I got it to use in a classroom that’s fairly bright and the lights need to be on while it’s in use. I have an old DLP projector that’s only a VGA input, but it is much brighter than this one. My old one works well, but I was hoping this would work so I could connect it directly to my computer instead of needing an adapter. Now to find an application to use this.
Specs
Vankyo Performance V600 Native 1080P LED Projector
Vankyo 100 Inch Projector Screen
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
Projector $179.99 at Target
Screen $24.99 at Walmart
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Feb 10 - Monday, Feb 13
IIRC, this sold out last time.
Opinions?
@onae Vankyo say No!
@mcanavino @onae Vankyo very much!
@onae I was rather impressed with mine. The projector that is, not the screen.
@onae TRASH, they don’t list the lumens which is telling. 221 Lumens, which is equivilent to a 25w light, that’s like 2 candles, you better have a dark room to play this in. I have a projector with 4000 Lumen, I wouldn’t use anything less honestly.
@5in1k @onae
If I’m reading [this article][1] correctly, your 25W bulb is SI lumens, which isn’t the same as ANSI lumens. 200 ANSI lumens
(from the spec sheet) equates to 3333 - 4000 SI (bulb) lumens (ANSI lumens)/.04(or.06).
But I’m trying to learn all this on the fly, so I might be off a little.
[1]: https://www.lifewire.com/difference-between-ansi-lumens-and-lumens-5216806#:~:text=Overview of this measurement of visible light&text=It describes the output of,measuring light specific to projectors.
@5in1k @onae 221 ANSI Lumens = ~6600 lumens as marked on a lightbulb.
@5in1k @onae I was looking for the Lumens on the specs… this is explains why it was missing.
@onae @unlikely Ok, I’m off on the lightbulb but the projector I use is still 4000 ANSI lumens and I wouldn’t go much dimmer.
@5in1k @onae @unlikely quality is good. Looks 1080p. Perfect black room obviously best but it does fine on cloudy day in my big room with many windows. We don’t want to watch a ton of tv if it’s bright outside anyways. First time I tried I was shocked pleasantly with the quality. It’s clunky interface, mono speaker, not top of the line and was $20 cheaper on meh over a year ago. The screen they send is utter trash.
I’m sure it’s not the best quality, but the price is nice.
@glarue Price is ok. Low quality projectors have really dropped in price over the past few years.
Wewatch 1080p projector routinely goes on sale for $55
Vankyo routinely sells screen for $10
BIG FUCKING MEH
@thechinglish I’m pretty sure this is the same price for the same item they have sitting on sidedeal. Stop basically you could have bought this at any time for the same price over there.
@sflesch @thechinglish Yep. @meh has just turned into selling less-than-mediocre crap that they can’t offload on SideDeal, MorningSave, etc.
@elliedan @meh @thechinglish What is the difference between SideDeal and MorningSave? MS seems to be clothing with some of the electronics you would expect from SD from what I can tell. Does that sum it up?
@elliedan rude
@sflesch
Morningsave is the land of crap shilled by bouncy bubbly blondes doing As Seen on TV infomercials during morning programming. SideDeal is less puffed and primped
This projector has 200 ANSI Lumens. According to this site https://www.wemax.com/blogs/tutorials/why-ansi-matters-shining-a-light-on-projector-lumens :
@SnakeJG Assuming they’ve got it all correct here, they provide a lot of good info.
And also…
So it seems like this should be of at least reasonable quality.
Where is the tribe of Vankyo from?
@hchavers Shenzhen?
Hey Meh - don’t project what I need and screen your offerings for that.
Would this be good to run outside in my front yard? Sometimes we like to watch hard core porn. Would be nice out in the front yard so the neighbors could enjoy as well. Thoughts anyone?
Yep, user name checks out.
@bugger sure after dusk. As a side benefit, the built in speaker is much louder than you would expect.
@bugger Nope, You’ll need the p0rnBoz 4000 and the Mastourbater XL unless you want them to have a subpar viewing, but my neighbors seem to appreciate my investment.
V600 specs say 200 ANSI Lumens.
Projection Size: 50"- 300"
Projection Distance: 5.58 FT - 30.18 FT
Or as a shortcut:
Distance = (size in inches / 10) in feet
Is 200 lumens bright enough for a projector?
TL;DR: Not even close. Unless you’re in a dark room, preferably Vantablack™, with the smallest 50" screen size (projector is 5ft away) it will probably be a less that satisfying experience.
In other words, perfect for Meh!
@mike808 you are mistaking lumens and ANSI lumens. There are converters online.
@mike808 @ohhwell LED Lumens value / 2.4=ANSI lumens so invert that and you get 480 lumens.
@mike808 @sflesch Sure but that source you listed is working in “lumens” which means Light Source Lumens when not qualified. 200 ANSI Lumens is about 6,000 light source lumens. Now, understand that I don’t think this Vanko is putting out 6,000 light source lumens by any stretch.
You can’t mix “lumens”, ANSI lumens and LED Lumens.
@mike808 @ohhwell So, I’m trying to learn. This article says to convert SI (Light Source) Lumens, divide ANSI by .04 to .06 depending on the manufacturer, which would be between 3,333 and 4,000. Does that sound like a more reasonable number?
@mike808 @sflesch Yes, that does sound way more reasonable and I would go with the lower figure at best. I guess I have to blame the online converters for that 6k figure.
It’s an absolute mess the way projector brightness is measured. I wish they would all just use ANSI lumens, even the big names like Epson and Panasonic. The little chinese cheap stuff manufacturers including Vankyo got hit with a lawsuit from Epson a while back for using “lux” lol. I like how they grudgingly list ANSI lumens now!
I might bring home a modern Epson projector and see how the brightness compares to my eyes out of curiosity.
@mike808 @ohhwell I ordered the Vankyo off SideDeal a few days ago. I might bring it into work and compare to an older one I have here. I think it’s Hitachi.
@mike808 @sflesch Yeah it would be very interesting to see how it compares. I mean, if it’s a nice enough projector at work there will likely not be much of a comparison though lol.
I found it cheaper on another website. They ask for your full name credit card info and social security number. Once you put in your bank routing number, address, favorite color & drivers licence number you get the 10% off coupon. Think it’s worth it?
@bugger As long as you don’t tell them what your favorite color really is, you should be safe.
Those are actually some of the best Meh puns I’ve seen so far. Got me to audibly chuckle.
This is a much better cheap projector than I expected. 200 ANSI lumens is plenty for outdoors after dusk or indoors in a darkened room.
I believe there is one in depth review on YouTube and I pretty much concur with it.
The main downside is of course the lack of edge sharpness like every other cheap projector. The colors are not perfect but I doubt most people would notice without an a/b comparison.
The built in speaker is WAY better than expected. Unfortunately though, I ran into a lot of noise when using the 1/8" trs jack to connect to an external speaker. That was dissapointing.
The screen… It’s odd in that it is very stretchy and is also pretty thin. I used the strechiness to my advantage though and stretched it out a bit on the wall in the back yard. The border is nothing resembling a rectangle anymore but the screen is pretty gland certainly beats projecting right onto the off-white stucco.
I am pretty sure this combo was $10 cheaper when I bought it from meh.
@ohhwell $20 cheaper in November of 2021, when I got mine.
@curtw4 What a world huh? Tech that keeps going UP in price…
I bought this when it was offered previously and it’s a great deal. Use it for parties, outdoor, kids play room. Needs a darkened room, though. Picture is bright and reasonably sharp.
Specs claim a VGA output which uses a DB25 connector but the picture shows a DB9 which is normally used for a serial connection. Perhaps just an “artist’s rendition.”
@HankB33 Which picture?
@HankB33 @ohhwell The one I bought did have a VGA (input) port.
@ohhwell 4th one in the series.
@HankB33 Oh, I see it now. That is some odd rendering or photoshop. It does not have a DB9 connector.
@HankB33 Both video reviews linked in some other comments show the VGA port, though the PulsarTECH oddly enough at one angle during the video almost looked like it had two rows of pins instead of three.
Would this work for holiday display? Think projecting spooky ghosts for Halloween
@maturo Yes, definitely. It will play videos right off an USB or SD card (if you transcode to a simple mpeg2 format) without a computer.
I’ve had one of these for a couple of years. As long as you understand what it is, it is not a bad deal. Of course, you have to first acknowledge that this is a cheap chinese projector, and not a real brand. If you look online you can find multiple other “brands” selling a projector that looks the same but with different color plastic. And of course, these chinese manufacturers are know to change components without warning, so the V600 I have may not be the same as the one being sold today.
My use for this projector is as a disposable projector, used in places where a better, more expensive projector would probably fail and void the warranty. Specifically, I use it outdoors to watch movies from my pool and hot tube, and the humidity and chlorine fumes are a real hazard. This projector has no real usable warranty, is not designed to be serviced, and does not have a sealed light path. It WILL get dusty and have no way to clean or repair it.
That said, for a projector under $100, This is far from the worst I’ve seen. It is bright enough to use outdoors on a 8 ft screen, the USB port has enough power for a fire stick, and it has an audio out that I can run into a powered speaker. It has decent color accuracy, watchable contrast, and relatively low lag if you play games on it (calibrates out to about 22 ms using a game like rock band). It also has a decent refresh rate, so you don’t see a lot of motion trails or tearing.
The main downside is the optics. It has a hardware keystone correction, but to mount the projector completely above or below the screen and adjust the keystone, the focus does not stay uniform across the image. The center will be in focus but not the edges, which can make it hard to read subtitles on some movies. If you don’t have to go to the top or bottom extent, it does stay relatively uniform in focus. And, I did have to return the first one I got, one corner of the image was never in focus with the rest of the image. I think that was just damage from shipping though.
Overall, if you recognize the limitations of this projector, and don’t expect performance like a $1000 or even $500 brand name projector, this can be a fun toy for a few months or maybe a couple of years, depending on how you use it.
@bigpolar I would concur with all of that.
Vankyo, but no Vankyo darling.
A recent review. Probably overly enthusiastic, but as I don’t have one of these (and plan to continue that lack), I do not have an authoritative opinion.
I bought this guy last time, and am generally happy with it for the price. It’s not a “travel” projector, but has better resolution & brightness than my last one (Vankyo Leisure 410).
I made a video comparing the two:
@summetj Thanks. Makes me feel better about getting one of these (same price) from SideDeal.
@summetj Excellent review!
(I like your quilt, also.)
Anybody gotten thiers yet? Curious if it’s the same as previous?
Wish I hadn’t gotten it. I got it to use in a classroom that’s fairly bright and the lights need to be on while it’s in use. I have an old DLP projector that’s only a VGA input, but it is much brighter than this one. My old one works well, but I was hoping this would work so I could connect it directly to my computer instead of needing an adapter. Now to find an application to use this.