Unlike Obama, Trump Has Earned a Nobel Peace Prize
3Nobel prize committee’s credibility is on the line
"…When President Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, he had been in office less than 10 months. Two presidential terms later, Obama had backed a war of regime change in Libya, a normalization agreement with a terror regime in Iran, and the “red line” fiasco in Syria, which likely encouraged military takeovers by the Kremlin in Crimea and by Beijing in the South China Sea. In September 2015, the Nobel committee’s former secretary expressed regret for granting the award to Obama, who not only had not earned it by 2009 but had squandered any claim to it after six years in office.
For Trump, the Nobel committee was right to wait until he had an actual record of governance and demonstrated a real commitment to peace before considering him for the prize. Now the committee has the opportunity to regain the credibility it lost in 2009…"
@Felton10 wants political threads at Meh - this will go both ways, as promised.
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@Thumperchick I think anyone who creates a duplicate account to post shit should be banned from posting here entirely. Anyone that doesn’t have the guts to post under his real name has no credibility anyway and is just posting to stir things up. Probably just a Russian troll.
@Felton10 Anyone who is too embarrassed by his positions to actually discuss them, and instead harps on the account of his intellectual betters, really should not be allowed to have an account at all.
Though in premise I agree completely with you, I really think a Nobel prize should be given to a citizen, not a sitting politician. Looking through the prism of history, Mr. Obama didn’t deserve his award at all while Trump has done more to achieve peace than any President in modern history (50+ years). I’d say in 2025, when citizen Trump’s record has held, he should be awarded at that time.
“For a nomination alone, the barrier to entry is low: all nominations from heads of state or politicians serving at a national level are accepted.”
@blaineg The bar is so low, you could nominate a turd you just flushed down the toilet, oh wait someone did when they nominated Trump.
@blaineg @Felton10 Ha ha ha ha ha… turd.
Is this one of your “fuckable” turds, or some other kind?
“Adolf Hitler was nominated for the peace prize in 1939 by a member of the Swedish parliament.”
@blaineg There, that ought to do it.
@blaineg Well Fehrer Trump is nominated this year so that ought to make sense. Anyone a brain stem knows that Trump is extremely jealous of Obama and that is why he is either trying to dismantle everything Obama did or get every award Obama got (Ie Nobel Peace Prize).
@blaineg @Felton10
Was Trump so dumb he graduated 76th of 85 students in his law school class?
@blaineg @Felton10 And yet the dumb Trump earned billions of dollars, had a successful TV show, employed thousands of people, and actually did something productive with his life.
But Professor Kelly has his title, so there’s that.
@blaineg @Felton10 “jealous of”, repulsed by… Tomato, tomato…
@blaineg @Felton10 Oh wait! That was Biden thinking that ranking 76 out of 85 put him in the top half at Syracuse University!
@blaineg @Felton10 @onlyonetruth
“Soviet leader Josef Stalin was nominated for the same award, twice, garnering nods in 1945 - for his efforts ending WW2 - and again in 1948.”
To those of you who don’t seem to understand (which is a lot of you…), the issue is that Mr. Trump has earned a Nobel Peace Prize, whereas your messiah Obama was simply given one by your sycophantic throne-sniffer NPC fellow-travelers.
@onlyonetruth President Trump has not earned a Nobel Peace Prize. He has been nominated. We won’t know if he actually gets one for a few weeks.
@onlyonetruth honestly, I’m not even sure why we are discussing Obama. He is not in the White House anymore and there’s no chance of him being in the White House this election.
@RiotDemon That is what Russian trolls do. Trump is fixated on Obama so they are also.
@Limewater What president Trump has done is worthy of - has earned - a Nobel Prize. Whether or not he receives one is a different matter - one that is largely political.
Obama received a Nobel Prize, but he did not do anything to “earn” it. Why he received it was entirely political.
@onlyonetruth To give your argument all the weight and consideration it deserves, I can only reply:
@blaineg Why? Do you not have anything constructive left to say? Or is it too hard to just concede a point to OrangeManBad?
Trump certainly deserves something for the more than 200,000+ dead from Covid-19 don’t you think?
@Felton10 Well if we could simply subtract the results of the governance of New York and New Jersey, and a few other democrat-run areas, the number would be half that or less.
Now remind me: did you want Trump to be a dictator who tyrannically sets policy for every state - federalism be damned, or did you want him to be a president, who respects states’ rights in matters of public policy?
It’s hard to keep track. You seem to take exactly the opposite view of whatever Trump says/does, because OrangeManBad is as far as your intellect will take you. It’s for this reason that you seem to be able to hold two directly conflicting positions without actually realizing that you can’t actually have it both ways.
Being dragged around by your FEELZ is not a good way to go through life. Try using your actual brain.
@Thumperchick Please remove the Russian Trolls from meh. We all know who they are.
@Felton10 @Thumperchick Who? Who are these trolls you’re so terrified of? Anyone who makes a point contrary to your very rigid and limited world view? Anyone who makes an argument that you can’t shout down? Anyone who isn’t intimidated by your herculean use of the word “turd”?
Man up, little one. Make rational arguments. Discuss things using your brains, instead of your FEELZ. Perhaps then the rest of the world won’t be so very, very frightening to you, and then perhaps you won’t keep seeing Russian Trolls everywhere…
@Thumperchick Please remove this Russian bot. I usually flush the toilet to get rid of shit like him. If he were a real person, he would have posted under his real moniker. But no this gutless scared little wimp proceeds to hide under his bed with his gun and computer and spew shit about something he obviously knows nothing about. Do us all a favor and rid meh of this garbage and ban him then he can go back to jerking off.
@Felton10 @Thumperchick
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@Felton10 You can’t possibly be older than 14. If you are, and this is how you express yourself, then you have far more problems than Thumperchick or anyone else can solve for you. I know a lot of people at Meh agree with your political ideology, but I would imagine that many of them are embarrassed by your conduct. It says something when even your like-minded democrats would prefer that you be banned, silenced, or ignored.
Trump hasn’t earned anything-especially the respect of anyone who worked for him. He is a disgusting egotistical pompous self dealing ass who only cares about himself and his legacy-not about the American people. He will go down as the worst President in modern history-maybe the worst one ever.
Now he is trying to cast doubt upon the upcoming election by whatever means possible to remain in office. That is what is done in third world countries not in a democracy. He says the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. And there are still people who support this POS. I weep for America if he is reelected.
@Felton10 You chug left-wing kooky KoolAde by the gallon. The ones rigging the election are the democrats. They have specifically instructed Biden (and others down-ballot) not to concede, they have done everything they can to allow ballot harvesting (particularly in PA and MI so far - it already exists as policy in CA), so that they have days after the election to generate as many “mail-in ballots” as necessary to steal the state, and they have for months been instructing their masses of brainwashed drones to essentially riot and destroy (Burn, Loot, Murder) if they are somehow thwarted in their efforts to steal the election.
I personally don’t think that the differences between normal Americans and the hard left are reconcilable anymore. There are too many people who believe the opposite of reality, as you do, because of their ingrained propensity to be brainwashed by their manipulative leaders (in exchange for being able to believe they’re in the “elite” club).
To an extent, I blame the leftist destruction of the schools and media, but mostly I blame those of you who are too intellectually lazy to bother actually understanding what is happening in this world. Keep chugging, Felt.
@Felton10 @onlyonetruth You go on and on about facts and research it’s so weird that you have absolutely no sources. Can you prove widespread mail-in voting fraud? Can you prove any instruction to Biden? Even if it is true what would Biden not conceding even mean? He’s not in office. Any documentation showing democrats encouraging “burn, loot, murder”?
@DoctorOW Not even worth it. He’s honestly way too brainwashed to ever be able to understand actual facts. Every single thing he posts is right wing vomit with no truth behind it. He will never produce compendious proof of his claims. I stopped commenting and replying on these threads because it’s literally arguing with someone with a mental defect.
@DoctorOW @Felton10 Do yourself a favor. Spend 10 minutes researching the stuff you said I have no sources for. I could do that for you, but you’re not really asking for information to become better informed. You’re simply spouting the same old defensive crap that every lefty spouts when confronted with facts that conflict with your brainwashing. It’s like an information condom to keep the bad thoughts out…
But getting back to my original point, I challenge you to do some objective research and learn about the stuff you demonstrated thorough ignorance about. Make a habit of doing that before hitting your keyboard - you’ll save yourself considerable embarrassment in the future that way.
@Felton10 @onlyonetruth You talk so much about research but if you actually did any it would be easily possible for you to link your sources. There is only one logical reason for why there is no evidence to back your claims.
@DoctorOW I have linked sources in the past. Those of you who need most to read them will absolutely not do it (you all have your same tiresome litany of excuses for why they’re not worth your effort). If I thought that you were even slightly interested in learning something objective, I’d expend my time and energy to do your work for you. This is on you. If you want to be informed, inform yourself. If you want to just say “nyah nyah you failed to give me give me give me…”, then by all means, stay ignorant. God knows the cartel of ideocracy that runs the major media propaganda arm of the democrat party has created a fairly pervasive echo chamber of stupidity. You will have to want to pull yourself out of that and put in your own effort to do so.
And yet, Trump has still never earned anyone’s respect.
@medz And he never will except those whose life is in the shitter and are looking for help from a snake oil salesman rather than helping themselves. The dregs of society. The insane blatherings of his idiot supporters tell you all you need to know about the people who support tRump. Brainwashed lemmings all of the them.
@Felton10 yup. Hard to respect someone who makes empty promises, lies, and insults on a daily basis.
@medz You guys truly just believe what you want to believe… It would be silly if it were not so pitiful.
@Felton10 @medz Out of curiosity, does your gropey girl sniffing, insult-hurling, mentally deteriorating, deeply corrupt lifelong career politician have anyone’s respect? And if so, what does that say about the people who respect him?
@onlyonetruth If having beliefs supported by facts is silly, I guess I’m silly.
@medz Pitiful, more than silly. It’s beliefs, despite facts…
@onlyonetruth you dispute the fact that he lies, insults, and makes promise he can’t keep?
Are you serious?
@medz Just stop responding directly to that Russian troll. I did and was hoping he would just go away, but he is too stupid to take the hint.
@Felton10 @medz He fights. He fights for the things that matter to most conservatives. He insults those who shit on America and Americans, and those who spit in his face. Unlike prior republican presidents, who were happy to be cucked for the pleasure of the beltway “elite”, Trump will gleefully extend the middle finger of good-old-fashioned American Fuck-You to his (and America’s) political enemies. For this, he has my appreciation and respect. You fools cannot or will not see that, which is in large part why you’re pitiful.
Trump’s exaggerations and hyperbole are lies. Sure. But you gladly swallowed the load when Obama said “If you like your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance”, or when he drew his metaphoric line in the sand with Syria, or that the attack in Benghazi was due to an unknown filmmaker’s unwatched film, or any number of countless such actual material lies in which America and/or Americans were harmed. You take Biden at his word regarding his blatant lies about his corruption relating to Ukraine and China. His pandering flip-flops regarding fracking depending upon who his handlers tell him he’s speaking to via pre-scripted teleprompter comments. His repeated plagiarism and his blatant resume-padding mendacity… But Trump exaggerates, so he’s lied 20k times (I read it in the Washington Post, y’all)!!! You people are pitiful.
@Felton10 @medz they aren’t going away until you stop posting political stuff. They said straight up that for every thread you create, they will create an opposing one. If you don’t want to hear their side, stop making new threads.
It goes both ways.
@medz @RiotDemon @thumperchick If meh had any balls, they would delete any posts from trolls who are too gutless to post under their real account. Trolls like this have no credibility since they won’t even put themselves out there to defend their beliefs.
@Felton10 @medz @Thumperchick the point of meh isn’t to censor everyone to death. A lot of people don’t want to see your posts either, would you rather your posts disappear completely?
@RiotDemon: “stop making new threads.”
Also @RiotDemon: “the point of meh isn’t to censor everyone”
@medz that’s not what I meant. You are taking what I said out of context.
@onlyonetruth So you like him because he insults people he doesn’t like. Cool. That totally makes up for lying to the American people.
@RiotDemon Ok. What are you gonna do about it? Censor me?
@Felton10 @medz
I have and will explain my beliefs. Facts and truth are easy to explain and defend. But why do you care so much who I am? How does that change the content of my explanations?
Perhaps more importantly, why do you so desperately want to know who I am? What are you planning to do with that information?
You’ve tried every tactic to avoid having to defend your beliefs. And given the things you believe, it’s not surprising that you’d scurry away from the light when your hypocrisy, arrogance, and pusillanimous childishness is laid bare for all to see. Instead, you keep harping on not knowing my name and address. You screech “Russian Troll!!!”, and in your desiccated and brainwashed little mind, that sounds like a valid counterpoint. It’s not. It’s just another symptom of being irreparably pitiful.
With all of that said, out of kindness to you and to the rest of the Meh community, I’ll again make you this generous offer: STFU, and you won’t hear from me anymore.
@medz That’s the sum total of what you got from my comment?
@onlyonetruth Yeah, you ranted about Obama and Benghazi a bit there too. I don’t think he lied to the majority of Americans. Just some in certain health insurance situations didn’t work out as well as he would have liked. You also said some stuff about cuckolds and called me pitiful, but I was trying to read between the lines and that’s basically what I thought was at the root of your comment.
You seem like Trump because he is unapologetically unlikable and that trumps everything else.
@Felton10 @medz @onlyonetruth
This is a bit of a stretch.
Principles of American Conservatism primarily include Fiscal Conservatism, Constitutionalism, Classical Liberalism, and, more recently, Religious Conservatism (in the political sense).
I don’t see a case for the President fighting for any of those things except possibly, and ironically, Religious Conservatism.
@medz
I like Trump because he is unapologetically who he is. I don’t love his bombast or his choice of using insults to fight insults. I do like that, in whatever fashion he chooses to do it, he is true to himself. On balance, he has done what he said he would, within the confines of political reality (and in some cases [middle east] well beyond those confines). He has been the most conservative republican president since Reagan, and in some ways even more than that.
You folks who are stuck on his rhetoric, way of speaking, or other superficial crap are entirely missing the point, and entirely failing to understand why many of us have come to accept and appreciate Trump. You’re doing yourselves a disservice, because you keep harping and arguing against character “imperfections” that the rest of us have decided to accept as part of the package deal, a package that also far more importantly includes a man who has actually done most of what he campaigned to conservatives about. We are sick of “republicans” who campaign that way, and then govern as democrat-lights.
No conservative is looking for a savior, religious leader, or moral guide in their politicians. We have those already. We are looking for politicians to navigate political waters in ways that best propagate American constitutional ideals. That’s why we do not give any fucks that the Orange Man is Bad. The Orange Man is not our moral guide. We have principled ideologies, religions, and/or a sense of natural law to guide us through those issues. We want our politicians to achieve our politics - nothing more. Trump does that.
Those of you who deify your political leaders - who view them as light-bringers and spiritual leaders. You, as all cult-followers do, look past all of the hypocrisies, lies, misdeeds, and manipulations of your political leaders, because they substitute as your moral compasses. Since you see yourselves as righteous, enlightened, and elite, you see those ideals in your leaders - not because of who and what they are, but despite it.
If you want to make arguments in favor of Marxist principles or why socialism is great, feel free. We can have a philosophic discussion regarding those points. But since most of the arguments from you and your like-“minded” pals are OrangeManBad, you’re pretty much disqualifying yourselves from rational discourse.
@medz @RiotDemon @Thumperchick I would gladly agree to have my posts deleted in return for that Russian Troll being deleted. I doubt he would make the same offer or agree to my offer. Don’t you care about people posting false shit under made up names-would hardly consider that censorship?
@Felton10 @medz @RiotDemon @Thumperchick
Pssst! Be careful! It’s possible taht I am wrong, but I am at least 60% sure that that “RiotDemon” is also a made-up name.
I don’t know why people can’t just post under their given names, like you and I.
@Felton10 @medz @RiotDemon @Thumperchick I totally agree. Please delete all of my and Felton10’s posts. Deal.
@Felton10 @medz @onlyonetruth @RiotDemon
If you’re both sure, I’ll nuke this whole thread for you.
@onlyonetruth “You folks who are stuck on his rhetoric, way of speaking, or other superficial crap are entirely missing the point”
I mean, his policies suck too. They are rooted in greed and selfishness; only cares for himself and those loyal to him. Rather than being a president of all citizens, he has made it clear he only cares about those who support him. He exploits religion and traditional conservative values for his own gain. He says he wants to put America first, but in doing so he has made global economic enemies and lowered our standing in the world. We are no longer a leader on the world stage that other nations respect and admire. He is very shortsighted; rolling back regulations to allow corporations to make a quick buck while the environment suffers. At the same time, he roots for American companies to fail simply because he believes they are against him or his base. He makes spitball decisions without consulting (or just flat-out ignoring) the experts. He cares about his image and the economy more than he cares about American lives. Trump himself is guilty of almost everything negative he tweeted about Obama. (golfs too much, uses executive orders too much, etc) The vast majority of people who have left his campaign and administration have had very negative things to say about him. We have never seen such a rebuke from former presidential staffers before.
@medz @onlyonetruth @RiotDemon @Thumperchick Since it is his thread-it should be his to nuke, but in the alternative, I will agree to nuke one of mine for one of his.
If my posts are nuked, I nuke the meh app from my phone. Your move.
@medz That’s fair. Obviously, as you would imagine, I disagree with it all, but I can see where you’re coming from. Does it strike you as worthy of consideration that everything you said has a flip side - one that does not fit with the political agenda of most of the media, but that many, many people are fully aware of?
The reason I ask that question is this: if you are content to believe all of that, without curiosity about why many others see the opposite, then why bother having discussions at all? You might ask the same of me, I guess. The thing is, I’m inundated with the relentless media-driven drum beat of everything you said. It would be easy to just agree and go along with it. That seems to be the easy socially acceptable “norm”. Facebook would be much easier…
If, on the other hand, you wish to be intellectually honest, then you owe it to yourself to learn more about what is going on than what you’re told by the “conventional wisdom” of the legacy media. Maybe that would change your mind, though probably not. We look at things from different perspectives. That’s a good thing - there’s always been and always should be contrarian views of political information.
But perhaps you’ll stop with the knee-jerk OrangeManBad and everyone who likes Orangeman also Bad silliness. If we’re all turds who should be summarily flushed, as eloquently summarized by Meh’s great leftist thought leader, then please stop wasting time on us. Otherwise, learn why the contrarians among you are so passionately contrarian.
@medz @RiotDemon @Thumperchick
A complete aside to the rest of the comments – Meh has an app??
@Felton10 @medz @RiotDemon @Thumperchick If that’s what you want. We can nuke each of our last threads.
I would suggest that we instead just agree to stop posting political threads on Meh from here on out, but whatever…
@onlyonetruth “A complete aside to the rest of the comments – Meh has an app??”
You have called my bluff. Well done.
@medz That wasn’t some kind of an attack comment - I actually went to the google play store when I saw that to get the app… There still isn’t one, as far as I can tell.
@onlyonetruth too true, too true
@medz @onlyonetruth If that means you will [redacted], I agree but I will settle for you [go vote] with the rest of the Trump turds.
Stop with the personal attacks ~ TC
@Felton10 What in the fuck is wrong with you? It’s like you’re stuck on this module. This is your go-to mantra. It truly sucks. More importantly, it makes you an absolute bore.
At least I paid more taxes than Trump did.
@Felton10 Guess that makes you a pretty lousy accountant…
@Felton10 I find that unlikely. You haven’t qualified your statement based which taxes, so that would include sales tax, real estate, etc.
And if you did pay more taxes than him, I’d say you are probably doing well! Congrats!
@D_a_v_e When people were talking about the “taxes” Trump paid, most if not all assumed we were talking about federal income taxes. The only ones who were trying to muddy the waters by including every tax known to man were the Trump and his lemmings. But just to be clear, I was only talking about Federal Income Taxes.