Probably a good meh but not even a good model number calculation translation could help me determine the area - not to mention it’s all metric system and ball bearings these days…what do you need a refresher course?

@bigcurmudgeon About three-quarters of the world’s population doesn’t make it past where the “human” is in the picture. Only maybe 5% makes it to the white text.

@bigcurmudgeon@DrWorm I did a double-major for undergrad, and Mathematics was one of them. Most everything in “Serious Math” is at least senior-level undergrad at a minimum.

The mathematical capacity of the human brain is almost certainly unmeasurable at this moment.

Limited capacity, yes;
measureable by current types of cognitive modeling, or other brain capacities and constraints modeling, or by some other modeling; I suspect that the science is just not ready for more than conjecture.

“Defaulting to AI” past a certain level implies that AI can handle whatever comes next.

Tho AI can do much impressive stuff, I suspect AI isn’t ready for that either

This is just my pure amateur speculation; but the biggest issue (to me) is that the basics of mathematical logic itself are very insufficiently explored.

And (my guess) those areas, when opened up, will prove to be as endlessly expanding as are every other form of mathematical knowledge.

And all this will, possibly, endlessly redefine what is mathematically proveable or knowable.

There was that time, long ago, when after a few too many old fashioneds, I did a Random Sequence Extrapolation. It wasn’t pretty, and I won’t try to repeat it. Even now, I don’t like talking about it…

@f00l@narfcake I’d have to hope for open free wifi. I had 2 semesters of calculus in college (and I had to teach myself trig in the middle of that as I hadn’t had it in high school and my parents didn’t know enough to tell me I was an idiot not to take that senior year). I had to re-learn it a number of years later to do economic proofs. I have no desire to relearn it yet a third time were I to need it just to get wifi. Blech.

@f00l@narfcake And, of course, there is the other interpretation where no one is offended, rather everyone laughs- which is the one I had when this came across a humor science feed I am on - that it was an inside joke and the answer to that equation (which I don’t know and don’t care enough to ask on that facebook page what it is) is funny enough - I am presuming maybe something like the first 10 digits of pie or some other equally well known 10 digits - that it cracked up the math types. I could see someone putting up something like this in a high end physics, engineering or math lab where doing the math is a piece of cake. At a hotel not so much so.

@f00l@Kidsandliz@narfcake Yes, the answer is pi. But not that many people you would expect ever bother to learn pi to ten decimal places.
That doesn’t actually look like a real sign if it makes anyone feel better.

@f00l@Limewater@narfcake Thanks. I suspected the first 10 digits of pi (thank you auto correct for making it pie above!! and I missed that - blame the goat - had to fix it here too) - thanks for confirming that.

Re “math joke” I mentioned earlier. That’s what I thought, given that someone had made a sign.

Within nat sci depts, there can sometimes be a slight flavor, from some students, of using this sort of math or science puzzle as a means of showing off one’s own supposed cleverness; as a sort of social statememt or challenge. Most people just ignore this or roll their eyes a bit.

The practice usually doesn’t last … People are there to at least try to do serious hard work.

@f00l@Limewater@narfcake I have never noticed that kind of snobbery connected with humor like this. I’ve only seen this kind of humor in the context where it is appreciated by other similar people, not waived around as show off behavior around folks who have interests in other areas. I am reasonably sure that other fields have their own similar jokes that play off specialized knowledge for similar reasons. I’ve seen some art ones that I had to think a minute to “get” them too. And once I did they were pretty funny as well.

I made it down to the serious math boundary in college, but I don’t remember having studied anything below that.

@bigcurmudgeon About three-quarters of the world’s population doesn’t make it past where the “human” is in the picture. Only maybe 5% makes it to the white text.

@bigcurmudgeon I have a college degree with a minor in math and I didn’t get anywhere near “serious math”

@bigcurmudgeon @DrWorm I did a double-major for undergrad, and Mathematics was one of them. Most everything in “Serious Math” is at least senior-level undergrad at a minimum.

Love that image.

The mathematical capacity of the human brain is almost certainly unmeasurable at this moment.

Limited capacity, yes;

measureable by current types of cognitive modeling, or other brain capacities and constraints modeling, or by some other modeling; I suspect that the science is just not ready for more than conjecture.

“Defaulting to AI” past a certain level implies that AI can handle whatever comes next.

Tho AI can do much impressive stuff, I suspect AI isn’t ready for that either

This is just my pure amateur speculation; but the biggest issue (to me) is that the basics of mathematical logic itself are very insufficiently explored.

And (my guess) those areas, when opened up, will prove to be as endlessly expanding as are every other form of mathematical knowledge.

And all this will, possibly, endlessly redefine what is mathematically proveable or knowable.

There was that time, long ago, when after a few too many old fashioneds, I did a Random Sequence Extrapolation. It wasn’t pretty, and I won’t try to repeat it. Even now, I don’t like talking about it…

@shahnm

/image tequila

@f00l @shahnm this mehdiocre tequila shit brand is reserved for Europeans.

@narfcake Well then what about this?

@Kidsandliz @narfcake

Any sensible would-be user not wanting to “solve” would google the result using a cell device, I suppose. Or use a TI calculator designed for this.

Unless the providers intend “open Wi-Fi” in the first place, and just wanna do a math joke in regard to it.

@f00l @narfcake I’d have to hope for open free wifi. I had 2 semesters of calculus in college (and I had to teach myself trig in the middle of that as I hadn’t had it in high school and my parents didn’t know enough to tell me I was an idiot not to take that senior year). I had to re-learn it a number of years later to do economic proofs. I have no desire to relearn it yet a third time were I to need it just to get wifi. Blech.

@Kidsandliz @narfcake

That sort of annoying intellectual adolescent bravado is common enough around natural science departments in the early years

Fortunately it usually fades quickly and people start being nice

But I suspect anyone who grew up in the era of TI graphing calculators and knows how to use one to get the result that way

I don’t know for sure because I’ve never used one

And there’s Google

And there’s asking nicely because most people even students aren’t jerks

@f00l @narfcake And, of course, there is the other interpretation where no one is offended, rather everyone laughs- which is the one I had when this came across a humor science feed I am on - that it was an inside joke and the answer to that equation (which I don’t know and don’t care enough to ask on that facebook page what it is) is funny enough - I am presuming maybe something like the first 10 digits of pie or some other equally well known 10 digits - that it cracked up the math types. I could see someone putting up something like this in a high end physics, engineering or math lab where doing the math is a piece of cake. At a hotel not so much so.

@f00l @Kidsandliz @narfcake Yes, the answer is pi. But not that many people you would expect ever bother to learn pi to ten decimal places.

That doesn’t actually look like a real sign if it makes anyone feel better.

@f00l @Limewater @narfcake Thanks. I suspected the first 10 digits of pi (thank you auto correct for making it pie above!! and I missed that - blame the goat - had to fix it here too) - thanks for confirming that.

@Kidsandliz @Limewater @narfcake

Re “math joke” I mentioned earlier. That’s what I thought, given that someone had made a sign.

Within nat sci depts, there can sometimes be a slight flavor, from some students, of using this sort of math or science puzzle as a means of showing off one’s own supposed cleverness; as a sort of social statememt or challenge. Most people just ignore this or roll their eyes a bit.

The practice usually doesn’t last … People are there to at least try to do serious hard work.

@f00l @Limewater @narfcake I have never noticed that kind of snobbery connected with humor like this. I’ve only seen this kind of humor in the context where it is appreciated by other similar people, not waived around as show off behavior around folks who have interests in other areas. I am reasonably sure that other fields have their own similar jokes that play off specialized knowledge for similar reasons. I’ve seen some art ones that I had to think a minute to “get” them too. And once I did they were pretty funny as well.

Where are the sharks?

@katbyter

/giphy jaws

@f00l @katbyter We’re gonna need a bigger calculator…

I’m faving this for the double Fletch references… was also happy to see at least one snuck into Ted Lasso

gotta slow down when I read those titles… that’s

NOTToo much

METH…