THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED, AN OUTRAGE!
13Oh dear, (at least) one of the Fake News outlets is breathlessly reporting the Ds pretend outrage that US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is going to ‘‘break precedent’’, and speak at the Republican convention.
So many times various Ds have ‘‘broken precedent’’ in recent times, and Fake News had nothing to say about it.
Former presidents Carter, Clinton, and Obama attacking current presidents, and speaking out on political issues of the day. Obama, and all his illegal executive orders - bypassing Congress in ignoring certain laws and in creating new ones. Obama and Kerry bypassing Senate ratification on the Iran treaty by calling it a ‘‘deal’’. Obama spying on the opposing party’s presidential campaign, transition, and presidency. Weaponizing the FBI, Dept of Justice, and national security agencies (I won’t include weaponizing the IRS and politicizing the courts, as previous Ds had already done that).
And plenty of other precedents broken by various Ds - whenever they see political advantage in doing so. Trashing the police. Allowing (encouraging) months of rioting unchallenged in their cities. Keeping folks on edge, panicked and fearful of Covid, in order to try to steal the election with a bunch of phony ballots, and ballot harvesting. One would think a Secretary of State exercising his freedom of speech is insignificant when compared to these other broken precedents.
Unless they’re worried he’ll bring up the failed Obama/Biden foreign policy, and Joe Biden’s horrible 40 year foreign policy voting record before that. Gosh, he’d better not bring up Obama/Biden’s record on Israel, the Middle East, ISIS, Russia, Ukraine, or China. He’s better not bring up Biden’s Senate votes on China, Central America, the Soviet Union, Iraq, Reagan’s nuclear weapons showdown with the Soviets, Cuba, North Korea…
He’d better not bring up Trump’s revised trade deals with Mexico & Canada (Nafta), China, the EU, increased military spending contributions by European NATO members, defeating ISIS, getting troops out of Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and even Germany, holding China accountable to international law in the South China Sea, the East China Sea, and the Arctic, further isolating Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela, Middle East peace deals and cooperation against Iran, etc, etc.
No, it wouldn’t be fair for Mike Pompeo to mention any of it.
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Having a bad day?
@f00l You aren’t outraged???
This is no different from all the OMB posts.
@therealjrn
Not in the mood for outrage at this moment.
/youtube Madeline Kahn I’m tired
Vote For Biden
@medz
@medz
@medz
@onlyonetruth dude, delete that Biden/Harris logo parody. That’s straight up misogyny, and NOT COOL at all.
All the other ones were mostly lies and cherry-picked observations. But that last one is insulting and infuriating on a whole different level.
@haydesigner Biden sniffs women and girls. Harris admittedly slept her way into political power and is not at all shy about it. Willie Brown would confirm. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it right for you to yell at me about it.
@onlyonetruth your choice of memes only reflect on your poor character
@medz No, it reflects on the poor characters of Biden and Harris. Please try to stay on topic and keep the ad hominem attacks to a minimum. If you have something to say to refute the memes or to defend the indefensible characters of Biden or Harris, I’ll eagerly look forward to shooting down your misguided arguments. Otherwise, you’re just being a troll.
@onlyonetruth your memes are inaccurate, unfunny, and uncouth. I don’t think I need defend my position against someone who posts an image of spread legs to depict Harris. As I said, your memes only serve to illustrate your poor character and undercut your stance.
@onlyonetruth So Obama was black because he was half black. Harris is not black because she is half black. Got it.
@haydesigner @onlyonetruth
What’s True
Harris did date former San Francisco Mayor and State Assembly Speaker Willie Brown for a period of time between 1994 to 1995. In his capacity as speaker, Brown appointed her to two political posts — first to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, and then to the Medical Assistance Commission.
What’s False
Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade. Harris’ first, successful run for office in 2003 happened well after the relationship ended, and Harris sought to distance herself from Brown.
Or you know… you could just use the right wing version to make yourself feel better about a successful woman.
@Kidsandliz Harris, and her media sycophants, call her “African American” when it suits them to do so. Harris has not been on record routinely correcting this. However, mispronouncing her name is racist, but only when Republicans do it. When Biden does it, it’s just another one of charming old Uncle Joe’s delightful and wonderful quirks.
@medz You want to keep making ad hominem attacks against me, but still have not offered any counter arguments or useful information. I don’t really care if you don’t want to (or to be fair, cannot) “defend [your] position”. I just again point out your mean-spirited hypocrisy in using personal ad hominem attacks against those who accurately (and humorously) call out your dear leaders.
@cinoclav @haydesigner The polished and sanitized left wing version doesn’t make her look much better, sport.
I have nothing but respect for anyone, of either gender and any race, who achieves success based upon their hard work and perseverance. I have zero respect for anyone, of either gender or any race, who fucks their way to any advancement. Guess we’re going to have to disagree about Harris based upon our personal principles.
@onlyonetruth
You think posting an image of spread legs for Kamala is “accurate” and “humorous”? You don’t deserve to be dignified with a civil debate.
Biden/Harris would condemn such behavior. Your boy Trump, on the other hand, encourages and even participates in such divisive behavior.
Vote Biden.
@haydesigner @onlyonetruth I didn’t see the cartoon that was deleted, and I’m not going to defend it. I’m sure it was terrible. Political cartoons are pretty much universally terrible.
I will mention, though, that I don’t think I’ve seen anyone complain about any of the misogynist stuff that has been posted about the First Lady.
Really, folks, it’s okay to be classier than the people who disagree with you.
@haydesigner @Limewater @onlyonetruth comments about Melania should get the same treatment. Tag a mod, or just tag me when you see it.
@medz Kamala made her bed, so to speak. I explained why I think her behavior is despicable and worthy of derision. You can be in support of that kind of conduct all you want, but you should focus your arguments on why you believe anyone should advance their careers on their [misogynistic bullshit].
@onlyonetruth You clearly prefer people who were born into wealth and use their money and “fame” to take advantage of people. “When you’re a star, they let you do it.”
@medz Nope. I certainly wasn’t. I would expect others to have to expend the same blood, sweat, and tears that I and most people do to become successful. Again, not being born into wealth does not justify fucking oneself up the ladder. I cannot believe I have to explain this.
@onlyonetruth First, do you have a reputable source to back these accusations? Second, I guess I’m not too concerned with the actions of consulting adults. If this was a quid-pro-quo sexual harassment situation as you imply, the person in power (able to award the raise/promotion/job) is to blame.
@medz
"Brown himself leapt into the fray in late January 2019 with a brief commentary in the San Francisco Chronicle just after Harris announced that she would be running for president, appearing to take credit for helping start her career:
Yes, we dated. It was more than 20 years ago. Yes, I may have influenced her career by appointing her to two state commissions when I was Assembly speaker.
And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco…"
@onlyonetruth you left out the part where he says he helped others such as Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, Dianne Feinstein and others.
So they dated and he says he helped her career. So what?
@onlyonetruth I dated a girl in college and helped her get a job by forwarding her the job listing. OMG! Scandal!
@medz Yeah, I guess if you got to bone her in return for the favor.
There is a difference between seeking help from mentors and superiors in honest ways, vs. spreading your legs for a quick ride up the ladder.
Someday I hope all the Fox News watchers and Rush Limbaugh listeners come to realize that their whole business model is based completely on making their audience OUTRAGED and/or AFRAID at every possible thing they can dream up.
@haydesigner Uh. Have you watched any “news” on any “mainstream” channel anywhere over the past three years (or during any republican administration, for that matter)?
Dude, there’s projection, and then there’s absolute departure from any semblance of reality…
@onlyonetruth, that isn’t even remotely germain to what I wrote.
And no, it is not projection… not even in the slightest.
@haydesigner Do you always just say the opposite of what is objectively true?
@haydesigner Surprised this forum is going political here. It’s a loop… Fox says something-- King Orange takes it and runs with it. Trump comments and Fox follows through. Then he calls real reporting the enemy of the people and fake news It’s disgusting!!
@readnj For example?
This is mostly a rhetorical question. You don’t really have any examples. You’re just parroting the party line. Thanks for contributing, though. Here’s another participation trophy. Time for you to celebrate!
@onlyonetruth Glad it’s rhetorical because I actually do have lots of examples. Let me know if you’re in the mood to hear or see them! Just to wet your appetite we can start with Andrew Cuomo and Fauci. There is a book all about this very topic that was released today.
@onlyonetruth @readnj is spot on.
@cinoclav @readnj Well since we’re on this topic, who would Biden take his marching orders from? Again, it’s rhetorical. We all know.
@onlyonetruth @readnj Biden is smart enough (after 47 years in politics) to surround himself with quality people. Trump surrounded himself with his ring kissing buffoons. He has the highest turnover of an administration that any of us have seen in our lifetimes. Absolutely guarantee you that Biden would not be running the country based on what he watches all day (up to 8 hours for Trump) on a fake news channel.
@cinoclav @readnj As Trump Jr. astutely pointed out, Biden is the “Loch Ness Monster of the Swamp…” He’s definitely surrounded by those who are quite at home in their swampy murk. I’ll grant you that. But really, smart?? That is something Biden has never been accused of, even by the cognoscenti of his own party, ever. He’s in there as an empty vessel for those who plan to exert their interests through him, not for his intellectual prowess.
@onlyonetruth @readnj When you’re quoting Don Jr, you lose one more credibility point. (Just to note, quoting Eric loses you two points.)
@cinoclav @onlyonetruth @readnj
Hmm. Probably not the strongest claim to make for your guy.
@mike808 @readnj I guess there’s more time for the family now that they had to pull one of their speakers.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/rnc-speaker-boosts-qanon-conspiracy-theory-about-jewish-plot-to-enslave-the-world-1
@cinoclav @readnj
Granted, but it’s the content of the quote that counts, not the source this time. Try to keep up .
@onlyonetruth @readnj Excusing the fact that it’s CNN, the fact checking is still true.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/24/politics/republican-national-convention-first-night-fact-check/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2020-08-25T04%3A11%3A34&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link
@cinoclav @readnj Come on, you’re smarter than this. CNN and their “fact” checker… Here’s just one example of what a buffoon this guy is:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/08/25/cnn-fact-checker-daniel-dale-gets-fact-checked-over-trump-and-302-great-supreme-court-justices/
It’s a silly example, but representative of the fact that CNN and their ilk’s “fact checkers” really need their own fact checkers, just to keep them even marginally honest.
@cinoclav That meme is cool. I think they got it from Biden’s photo album, in the Hunter section.
@cinoclav @readnj Since you’re into CNN, I’m sure you’re also fond of MSNBC. I’ll give CNN some credit for at least sucking it up and airing the Republican convention. MSNBC couldn’t handle their viewers encountering a black woman conservative, and simply cut away… Gotta keep The Narrative going for your party’s rubes, ya? This kinda thing just doesn’t fit:
http://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/08/25/msnbc-cuts-away-so-viewers-dont-hear-kim-klaciks-terrific-condemnation-of-democratic-failure/
@cinoclav @onlyonetruth Perhaps factcheck.org is more to your liking. The point is the entire thing is pandering to the base and saying whatever they want truth be damned.
@cinoclav @readnj We all, to an extent, do this on behalf of whatever ideology speaks most to us, but I just want to know if you are aware that you seem to be pointing a finger at a mirror. You are taking all of the DNC’s lies as truth, and all of the RNC’s truths as lies, because it suits your political ideology. This isn’t unique to you or any specific side of the political spectrum, it’s just that it’s done more determinedly by the left. These “fact check” organizations have largely sprung up as a form of leftist control of narrative. Starting with the very left leaning Snopes, and now including a variety of official sounding sites, their goal is the same: control the narrative.
Both sides spin things in ways that puts them in the best light. One side is currently fighting for constitutional rights for all Americans, law and order, sensible legal immigration policy, and economic advancement for every demographic. The other side is fighting for a deeply racist identity politics and grievance-driven narrative, political control at any and all cost, and complete departure from the basic principles that formed the foundation of this nation - the most important of which is natural law.
Spin that and polish the turds all you want, but the talking heads and their “fact checks” are all in service to the narratives.
@onlyonetruth You really are a dope, aren’t you? I’ve already said that I don’t watch those stations. I shared what was an online post, prefacing it with the words, “Excusing the fact that it’s CNN…” Just because they said it doesn’t mean it’s not true. Hell, even Fox says something truthful once in a while.
That picture? It was from him speaking at the RNC. Isn’t cocaine a glorious drug?
You are the purest example of the illusory truth effect I’ve seen outside of your fearful leader, Adolf Twitler.
@cinoclav Aw come on now… You were doing so well there for a bit. It always devolves into ad hominem attacks for you folks, doesn’t it? That’s ok. It was inevitable.
@cinoclav BTW I know what that picture is. My initial response to you about it was mostly a casual brush off. You didn’t seem to get that, so I’ll explain this way: it’s curious to me that you would take as true a random screencap of a video which makes it appear that the subject is high, but ignore the actual and well-described history of your candidate’s nuclear family, at least one of whom is the poster child for your “Isn’t cocaine a glorious drug?” comment. Then you want to talk to me about fact checking…
@onlyonetruth Keep claiming ad hominem. When you consistently refuse to believe what I’ve already told you about myself and attempt to push your own narrative based on false beliefs, you’re either desperate or an idiot with comprehension issues. Possibly both.
As for Hunter, at least he’s admitted his addiction issues. Obviously you can see how whacked Jr was throughout his speech. I didn’t think you needed the entire 10 minutes posted.
@cinoclav Ok. I’m a desperate idiot with comprehension issues. Now where did I refuse to believe what you told me about yourself? And what makes you believe my beliefs are false - politically left-biased “fact checkers”?
Because of what you told me about your story, I have been happy to engage in a conversation with you. If you’re thoughtful and introspective, then whether or not we agree, we can learn something of each other and his political philosophy. If you are making the distinct argument that your beliefs stem exclusively from left-leaning “fact checkers” and deceptive (and in this case entirely false) memes, then, though I am a desperate idiot with comprehension issues, even I can see that you’re not as thoughtful as you like to think you are. That’s a pity. I was enjoying this.
@onlyonetruth I have already mentioned that I do not watch those news channels and I’ve made my decisions based on my own research. Yet, just because I share something from CNN (which I’m sure Trump probably watched before they started pointing out all of his falsities), you want to throw this out there:
In addition, I said you’re either desperate or an idiot with comprehension issues. Guess we’ll just go with the merger of those two thoughts since those are your words.
It’s impossible to have an intelligent, thoughtful conversation with you. You will never see any other perspective but that which you dictate here. As much as you’d like to believe you have the ability, you have shown zero tolerance for anyone’s opinion that doesn’t mesh with yours. You’ve avoided facts and when people present them to you, you simply claim it’s a ploy of the left. Politifact is a Pulitzer Prize winning site and has called out Democratic lies as well. Your ilk happens to believe they’re left leaning for the simple reason that Republicans are the much bigger liars (proven by multiple studies) and are therefore a focal point of the site.
I know you need to get the last word in, so knock yourself out. I won’t be responding any further to you.
@cinoclav No last word. We’re stuck. Thanks for the conversation though.
This is beyond ridiculous. Hey @Thumperchick - Just delete this entire thread already. And why you’re at it, how about removing someone’s alternate account since they really shouldn’t have more than one.
@cinoclav How about if you don’t like it, scroll on past? Or in this case, don’t click the link to see the thread. JS
@cinoclav
I don’t see any blatant racism, etc. Can you link me to the comment(s) you’re flagging?
@cinoclav @Thumperchick There isn’t any. There won’t be any - Republicans are not on balance the racists in this country. He is not happy about having to deal with rational discourse that he is not prepared to defend without getting ugly and personal. And failing that, he’s asking for help to just make the bad people go away. Keep up your good work, Thumperchick!
@cinoclav @onlyonetruth @Thumperchick Nah. There was some racist-leaning stuff in there. We took care of those. Still reviewing more. In the meantime, assume anything that uses race to get a laugh or prove a point is going to get removed.
@cinoclav @Thumperchick Anyone who doesn’t vote for Biden is a racist…haven’t you heard?
@ChadP @onlyonetruth @Thumperchick Where do any of see that I mentioned racism? I didn’t.
@ChadP Like that post two up from here?
@cinoclav they were already removed. OnlyOneTruth has been constantly showing what the bottom of the barrel looks like.
@cinoclav @onlyonetruth @Thumperchick Several of the images you posted included messages that could be considered racist. No racism. No hatespeech is already a rule here.
@ChadP @cinoclav @Thumperchick We have come to a dangerous point in our national history, when the concern that some people might perceive something as racist automatically triggers a “therefore guilty” response. That isn’t a world you are going to want to live in.
@ChadP @cinoclav @Thumperchick As a person of color, I guess I should take offense that you would assume my reaction. That’s kinda racist in itself, if we play by the new rules.
Wow…a political post you can actually comment on? I’m impressed. It’s much better than Nazi news sites like Yahoo.com. They removed the ability to comment on political posts so they can shove their bias-driven, inaccurate reports down your throat without allowing you to respond factually.
Supplies scarce on shelves…check. Censorship by media…check. Taking my hard earned money and giving it to others who don’t have the same work ethic…check. Turning a country built on freedom into a Communist state…checkmate.
@gallogj This is all total bullshit - where did you get this load of shit from? I’m guessing your ass.
@ThatsHeadly what part of what I said is factually inaccurate? Site examples.
/youtube throw some D’s on that
To Throw Some D’s: “To furnish a newly acquired vehicle with Dayton Rims.”
Biden/Harris 2020
I’m concerned whoever wins in November, will result in a metaphorical Infinity Gauntlet being used on the users of this forum. I am no advocate of family breakups but I’m curious if it will touch @sammydog01 and her imaginary children. How do you disappear what is already disappeared?!!
/image infinity guantlet
@njfan Good question- do I get to pick the one that stays?
@sammydog01 your comment made me smile but it also made me fear you a bit.
Let me bottom line this clusterfuck of a discussion.
Trump supporters are like Nazis; [redacted for violence] No, I am not a Democrat. Not even close.
Come at me bros.
@Thumperchick @ChadP I would consider this to be hatespeech.
@ThatsHeadly
okay, so you are not a democrat but you don’t say you want them all to die…
just that you want all trump supporters to die.
how would you describe what type of government/political view you desire and support?
@ThatsHeadly I am in NO WAY POSSIBLE Like a Nazi, and I am a Trump Supporter, more as a crazy alternative to a stark raving mad alternative. I take offense to the Nazi Comment as I have relatives that where survivors of the war in Germany… and Nazi’s should not be a political party to compare anyone to, they should be referenced as a bad idea and left on histories refuse heap. If there was a good and functional alternative to either party that had a snowballs chance in hell of getting in I would vote that way instead.
@ChadP @Mehrocco_Mole @Thumperchick
why was the part where @ThatsHeadly said they want all trump supporters to die and @ThatsHeadly really means it removed?
but left the rest of the post so it does not seem so bad…?
should have left it the way it was…
so folks can see…
how violent and hate filled @ThatsHeadly really is.
@mick +1
Just what the fuck you guys. Ugh. Going to go pet a cat. Sorry I walked into this shit show.
How about neither of them? This is a movement for that https://articlesofunity.org/
@qkerby
thank you for this info… i will check it out more.
i do agree with some/lots of ideas from all these people.
maybe in 4 more years they will have more clout.
it is not now though.
the left is too far left, they have become authoritarian puritans.
How come no one is bashing Kanye West’s politics? Surely that’s something Republicans and Democrats can both get behind.
Unity not division… Lol
@OnionSoup Other than he has republicans trying to get him on the ballot in states where the vote will be close, I presume, to split the vote enough for them to win, I don’t even know anything about his politics other than he is a Trump fan and that his one TV appearance was a rant because he was off his bipolar meds so you can’t really use that to judge him. As a result I have no clue what he actually stands for.
@Kidsandliz well, he wants to give everyone $1million for each child they birth to encourage people to have children and he wants to run the USA like Wakanda. Those are just two of his policies. Not sure how he will go about the second, or how he will fund the first.
@Kidsandliz @OnionSoup And where the heck are we supposed to get all of that vibranium???
@OnionSoup @onlyonetruth Hmm… I don’t think we yet have a machine to make that from air.
@Kidsandliz @onlyonetruth I suspect Elon Musk has a supply of it in his underground tunnels.
It explains why Musk was pushing Kanye to run. He would finally have a buyer for his supply.
@OnionSoup @onlyonetruth Well isn’t that a marvel… (snicker).
@RiotDemon said each topic has its own thing. Maybe people will stop bumping them up.
Stop bumping these!