A quick thanks for the support of the mehtizen artists at shirt.woot over the last year – as popularity has waned, every vote counts. I personally appreciate all the comments, opinions, and feedback you guys offer.
@ACraigL eh… can’t win em all… it was kind of a weird design and ended up falling out of favor with the voters… usually how it happens whenever I use those chickens but I like them so I keep doing it… thanks though.
@taternuggets I like the chickens. Nice print out and it perfectly suits with the color. I just had difficulty knowing what’s behind the concept of it but as I was scrolling, looking for my bet design on this thread, I was struck with your design. Good job though. Keep it up!
@compunaut Thanks for the feedback. I didn’t want it obvious, more like finding out it says something, then putting it all together in an ah-hah moment. I liked the interactions of the lettering, becoming more design than headline, if that makes sense.
But it’s more than possible I took that too far. Time will tell. I do appreciate you saying something. More than anything I just like trying new things every time.
@compunaut@acraigl ok i tried and failed at making the art work work today. My idea is words saying
Darwin award nominee
And image of an oscar like statue of a primitive man with dna on the base. Words and statue gold t shirt red carpet red.
I freely give this idea to whomever can execute it.
Now that this T-List nonsense is out of the way, it’s time to deal with a bunch of shipbags. The derby this week is to design a new shipping bag for the shirty goodness within. Here’s mine. Thanks for looking! Shirtcuit Board
The current derby is pretty much full of variations of one of my past derby wins… I’m torn between being like “heyyy, similar shirts exist!!”, and also happy for any positive advertising for black cats! It’s a mixed up feeling!
And maybe you want to work at a new print facility in the Philadelphia area. Maybe you want to have complete responsibility as the Philadelphia operations leader in a manner that results in accuracy, timeliness, and profitability without compromising company standards for quality.
Well that’s something new for catshirtswoot. I also take it that with multiple openings in Carrollton (including @flipit’s old position?), screen printed shirts may still be out of the question.
@narfcake This opening was pointed out to me before, but it doesn’t sound like something I’d be willing to do (not that this was directed at me, but just sayin’). I’d hate be all operations and the responsibilities sound SO BORING. Again, to me, anyway. It would be painful to be so close to the art and not contributing to it.
@narfcake I’ll have you know it took THREE guys to replace me. Three guys and a MACHINE. Three guys, a machine, and a whole new Standard Operating Procedure manual. Three guys, a machine, a new Standard Operating Procedure manual, and a subscription to a separation house in China.
I was disappointed that, despite finishing in the fog, that this design wasn’t even selected for an honorable mention. Seemed right up the fairway for woot humor/culture so I pinged the team to make sure they got my artwork.
It’s OK if they passed, but I just want to rule out anything I may have done technically that might have excluded it.
@ACraigL I always seem to take their write-up too seriously… they seemed to be only mentioning water activities, so I nixed all the other purely water designs I was thinking of. But the derby is already filled with purely water designs. D’ohh!!! Maybe I’ll go back to those ideas…
@sammydog01 Thanks! I was just goofing around with that last one, as it’s the actual prompt of the derby theme (Water you waiting for). I only over-punned it. My wife commented it didn’t make sense without the title, so you’re not alone.
@jasneko I used to do that and now use it as a jumping off point. I figure the further away I can get from the literal prompt, the more unique my design will be. Except for the one above which is actually the prompt. Kinda.
@OldCatLady IMO, There’s so many of these out there already, it probably should be DQ’d. But I’ll leave that to the powers that be. I’m in agreement that it’s not really on theme, other than having a sun on it.
@jasneko No fault of yours; AFAIK, the templates haven’t changed since the pre-Anvil days. I should ask Ocho or Ben if updated templates are in the works or not.
As for print position (and other issues), that’s seemingly par for the course with shirt.woot in the past 5 years. Yes, “CS takes care of it” on the most part via replacements and/or refunds, but it’s still annoying that it has to be done in the first place. Or second place. Maybe third place. Occasionally fourth place too. But hey, I have one good copy out of five shirts, right!?
On a different note, the warmer yellow of Canvas’ “lemon” gives Anana! an even cheerier vibe. I’ll post some comparison pics later in the week.
@narfcake I’ve mentioned it to them multiple times (often the design is too big and too low)… I have a number of my designs with the design so low it’s too odd to wear out:/
What do you mean by “CS takes care of it”? Should I contact CS and ask for replacements then? Though some are older now… but some are more recent.
Nice to hear that about the canvas! I got mine on anvil, after you post pics maybe I’ll buy another heh! I do love the cheeriness, so even more cheer is all the better
@jasneko The print on women’s shirts was exacerbated in recent years. The “neckstretch” Anvil were almost men’s sized, so they upped the print size, but didn’t downsize it after Anvil changed their cut and reintroduced the more petite AA shirts. It doesn’t help that those operating the DTG printers aren’t grabbing the right print file all the time either, as I’ve received half-sized prints on men’s shirts before.
And yes, that’s what I meant by CS taking care of it. Making a note along the lines of “can you ask the shirt team if these are print issues?” may help it get past the level 1 CS. They aren’t always the most adept when it comes to shirt.woot specifics.
As for Anana!, left is Anvil, right is Canvas. Since it came out, I’ve worn them over a dozen times already … because not everyday is catshirt day.
@narfcake So should I write CS instead of the shirt editors then? … you’ve gotten replacements each time? I’ve gotten replacements a few times (facilitated by Ocho) but I know she/they have a lot on their plate…
Blargh blargh to the print stuff, it’s kind of frustrating that most times it’s the same problem.
@jasneko Yes. CS has replaced them every time so far. I think @acraigl has had CS replace some of his artist’s copies too.
Several were incorrect prints altogether, but a few were crooked or the wrong size print. Two replacements were for partially sent orders; a week later, I received the replacements and the remainder of the original order.
I still have like a dozen more from the past year to complain about, though. I don’t do laundry right away (for some known reason), and alas, the print didn’t survive the wash.
@narfcake Ok Thanks for this. Also, as you say you have a dozen more to complain about - I haven’t complained about many either (usually because I am slow to open packages and take a close look… and notice the low/large printing), so it’s been months since - is CS okay about that? Complaining quite later from the delivery?
Does anyone know if something has changed with the forum signature codes? I tried adding another image link to mine, and since then it just shows all the images as broken (even if reverting back to what previously worked). So I tried just using the default thumbnail code when posting on a design (minus the quotes and words), but the image still shows up as broken, but the link works. I’m confused!
@kevlar51 Yay, it’s fixed! They originally had the other counting sheep, which isn’t a bad design, but it wasn’t what I picked.
My “top 10” was originally closer to a top-100, so it took a lot of whittling down though a variety of methods, including separating out all the catshirts for another time, random numbers, and other non-scientific means like “how many copies do I have” and “is this due for a replacement because of Anvil?”
@ACraigL Surprisingly, not too many cats submitted so far.
From what I’ve heard, they get very busy. Like insanely busy. Like oops-we-thought-we-brought-enough-stock-for-the-weekend-except-we-sold-out-in-a-day kind of busy … which I suppose is a good “problem” for a business to have?
(Hopefully that was just a past problem. I suppose graduating John Hopkins with a BA in neuroscience doesn’t prepare someone to run a business selling t-shirts with bunnies, cats, pandas, or turtles.)
@sammydog01 Thanks sammy! I know it won’t last, but I’m amused that one is in the fog for now. I didn’t put a lot of artistic energy into it (obviously) but somehow I thought that added to the joke. I guess folks find it funny enough at the moment.
Really hoping Hugs & Extinction pulls through – that was where most of my time went.
@narfcake I wore Kirk’s Response to day 2 of the Boston Comic Con and got lots of compliments there. Given all the cosplay I’m shocked I was even noticed. Even later that evening as I passed a homeless man walking down the street, he turned about 10 feet behind me and said, “I like your shirt. AND I get the reference.”. He got my dollar.
@OldCatLady No idea how it floated past us all this time. We did watch last night. It was liked, but not loved. I think had I showed it to her a few years ago it may have had more impact (she’s 17 now).
At some point, she did feel bad for the R.O.U.S. so I knew it was deviating just a bit.
Late to post this in here, though it has very little movement… but if you like it, feel free to vote! Also question - would this be better with some color? I was going for a chalk look, but just wondering. Thanks!
@jasneko Voted. Like the sentiment, but not sure it’s coming through in the design. Maybe if you had some of your signature characters dressed up (like an explorer, astronaut, etc) to emphasize the meaning that would help (and add visual interest, as well as color).
@jasneko Well you’re back in now. Don’t feel too badly, mine tumbled out and lost all momentum. It’s so weird (for both of us) when you get so many votes up front and then nothing the last 2 day. And it’s not my “friends” either… I don’t have 49. Between here and woot, it’s probably closer to 12. On a good day.
That said, I prefer to be #10 than lower in the fog. At least then my disappointment is held in check.
@narfcake Wait wait holdup… I just went to order myself a V-neck, and don’t see those options there anymore. Are the alternate options only available on the first day?? Did I really miss the V-neck? ARrrgh!
@ACraigL Arrrrr!!! Is that always the way it is? I guess because in the side sales they sometimes have sweatshirts, etc then those are available all week right? Man I can’t believe I missed those other options
@ACraigL@narfcake I’m pretty dismayed at the constant misprints/mistakes… it’s dejecting. I have a pile of my own designs that are too low or other issues. My last HM prints had a whole slew of problems with the textures and one had to be vastly changed… d’ohhh. Still working on getting that updated.
@ACraigL Threads. The QC thread from 5+ years is active again too.
@jasneko It absolutely is. As ACL posted in the thread there, it’s mind boggling how they’ve been printing for over 10 years and still has all these issues. There’s only so many regular customers left that haven’t been so peeved that they stop buying all together.
@sammydog01 Thanks for saying because I spent sooo long on the colors/scheme… it went from black outlines, blue, teal, green to yellow outlines/other colors, to no outlines to a few other combos and finally this!
@ACraigL I pop in from time to time. Mostly I avoid it for the sake of my wallet!
Often I find designs I like where the design is cropped abruptly to fit the print dimensions and it reminds me of a movie or event poster pasted on the wall. For my part I like it when a design looks part of the shirt, so little things like blending the edges out make a huge difference to me.
I subbed final artwork in the rectangular format, but did a little more treatment on the burst to make it more woodcutty, and not solid so that there’s less ink on the overall shirt. I think it will help a lot. Assuming it prints.
@ACraigL Given the numbers these days, especially when so many designs get released at once, it’s almost better to save them for a different site, even if the returns are lower. One humongous aspect about submitting to shirt.woot is that their printing rights are perpetual. Sure, there’s the back catalog, but being “available anytime” aspect means that there’s no rush to buy something right away, never mind that it’s also 8000+ designs deep. For an informed customer, that’s a lot of wading through. For a casual or new customer, anything past a few pages would probably never be seen.
It’s been almost an entire year and I’m still first and last for this design.. And only. And we know how much they pay.
@ACraigL As of now saving for another derby, though I suppose I really need to branch out to other sites. If anyone has any suggestions, feel free!
I mean, part of me thinks well, why not give it to them, but some of my side sales are just sooo low, plus the misprints/etc and the increased quantity of shirts in every sale, plus putting other side sales on top of them … no attention drawn to these shirts. It’s just beginning to seem a bit much? @narfcake Yes… I mean, the curation process seems more than a little inflated. I didn’t give my design to this last side sale either. I did explain why (all the above reasons in more detail).
The selfish side of me says “submit the art so I can buy them”. I have 42 of your designs already, and Woot’s pricing has made it an easy guilty pleasure. I’ll be unlikely to buy it anywhere else near the price.
The business side of me cringes over the meager returns. Over the years, their inability to reliably deliver the product has taken a toll on the audience – and the numbers reflect it. It’s a bitter pill to swallow that after all the time spent on a design, it’s not going to yield enough to cover lunch.
@narfcake First off that’s so awesome to hear you have so many shirts of mine (and 42! answer to the universe!!).
Secondly… yes, what I struggle with. I mean, when some of the side shirt sales can be counted on one hand and there appears to be no real marketing/promotion…I just don’t know anymore.
@therealjrn Yeah, it’s kinda insane. For example, they printed 40 shirts from the last derby. That’s nuts. They are not discerning at all anymore. All that does IMO is water down the sales so the artists get less opportunity. But I guess someone did the math and saw more $$ for woot that way. Sigh.
@narfcake@acraigl Yes, all of this. Because they hadn’t fixed errors with some of my most recent HMs (despite repeated reminders from me) I didn’t participate in the last HM sale even though they wanted my 2. Then I saw 40+ shirts in it!! Wha??? Plus it was underneath 2 other side sales! From a shirt a day with a limited run to just a massive amount of shirts where most designs get lost in the heap. Pretty dejecting, and now very hesitant about giving so many designs to the Editor’s Choice sales…40+?? …