@mike808@therealjrn@tinamarie1974 So I hadn’t heard of this stuff before, so had to do some reading - apparently there is ice wine and there is iced wine. The former is made from grapes frozen on the vine, hand picked and processed in the dead of winter at temperatures 20 degrees F or lower, and kept in near frozen state all through processing. Takes a long time to process and ferment and as such tends to be rather pricey ($30 and up for a .375L bottle). It can keep for up to ten years and the ones I saw had a regular snobby cork. Originated in Germany and produced locally in Canada and upper-tier states.
“Iced” wine is made from regularly-harvested grapes that have been frozen and then processed, much more cost effective and shorter production time, but doesn’t keep as well. Both have twice the sugar level of Coca Cola and are usually served as dessert wines. Google says there are stores nearby that sell it, so I guess I need to try some. https://winefolly.com/review/ice-wine-youre-so-fine/
@narfcake It would be even better if the three like minded Pacific coastal States joined forces to secede. I think that might make us the third economic power. I often think that the remaining country would be our Haiti (we being like the Dominican Republic). Although they occupy the same land mass, their quality of life is vastly different. Try and get along without us.
Depends upon the wine, the circumstances of its consumption, my state of mind at the time, and mostly the terroir. Always the terroir. And the other stuff. Pretty much the other stuff. Um yeah… All the stuff. It depends upon all the stuff.
@TheCO2 Affordability and availability, I guess. In the 70s and 80s Americans figured out how to make less expensive but still decent wine that matched the $/buzz ratio of beer, California wines were winning international competitions which was good press, and Big Beverage got into the business so it was suddenly everywhere.
Here in California, consumption is required by law …
@stolicat My girlfriend’s family was having a party and they kept passing wine around, saying, “I think you will like this one. You should try it.” Yeah, I decided to taste one they said tasted different than all of the others. It was still disgusting.
@InnocuousFarmer US wineries are making some pretty good wines now, and they are some good deals when compared to the international stuff. Definitely don’t pass by the domestics. A lot of times there’s someone in the store who will love to take you through them.