That Other Place is using Suckers. Coincidence?
1A place down the road is having some kind of w-off at the moment. They've increased the price of their BOCs. On their first page (of the 98 million), they include a note that they have included lots of BOCs in this Woot-Off as a way of saying, "suckerrrrrs."
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1) You can say WOOT here.
2) Woot has called the first buyer of a product "first sucker" forever. Perhaps at launch? I wasn't around then, but for several years. They've called wooters "suckers" on several occasions.
3) I think you're looking for mimicry where there isn't any. The sites are similar because they were started by the same people. There is still a group of people that were hired by @snapster and share his overall ideals and sense of humor.
Woot isn't a bad word here. I have, however, grown tired of their manufactured fun.
@capguncowboy bad words aren't even bad words here!
@Thumperchick Rack up them stars!
@Thumperchick Fuck yeah, you're right there!!
It looks like they're selling, like, 5-10 bags in between each item.
@HELLOALICE 10 bags each round.
@narfcake And they seem near impossible to get. I tried at the beginning of the woot-off last night, but never got to the point where I could checkout before they'd disappear.
@bradandcoffee Everytime I end up with one in my cart, it forces a re-login and it's gone.
@thismyusername finally got one, wish it was a meh fuku bag instead... one day.... one day.
@narfcake If you refresh from the community page, the new item (BOC) shows up about 10-15 seconds sooner than on the main page. You're welcome.
@capguncowboy Yep! - that's how I was able to land one yesterday morning. I even posted the collected tips in some subsequent offerings. It still doesn't reduce the frustration in their 10-at-a-time staggering, though.
@narfcake I agree. It's too predictable. It's not fun if there's no initial let-down in seeing it's not a BOC. If you know what time it's going up, how is that a hunt?
@thismyusername Tip: Right before the last item sells out, go to your account page, where you'll have to re-log in. Then, when you are trying for the crap, it won't make you re-log in again.
Woot feels too corporate. Plus there are way too many products for a daily deal site. It has turned into Big Lots.
@BillLehecka the difference being, some of the items at big lots are good deals.
@BillLehecka Not enough novelty Pop Tarts to be Big Lots.
For those of you here who suggested meh to "stagger their releases" ... how are those BOCs working out? Ten at a time, every other item ... lots of chances, right? No checkout issues like how it was with the fuku here, right? Right?
@narfcake It's such bullshit. I hope Meh never does it. Jesus. I mean, maybe it'd be different if it was 1000 each time, but that's an unreasonable quantity. I've stayed up hours for BOCs, played flash games, sat through minutes of loading screens, etc. Once I realized it was 10 per slot, I said "Fuck this." Not fun. Just bullshit.
@narfcake I got one, but only after I removed the other item from the cart I was trying to bundle for the $5 shipping. I think my cart was loading too slow and processing the order too long before that with multiple items. After that, I got my mom one (first sucker), and just a bit ago my sister in law one. Seems pretty easy and plenty of chances. Gotta be fast though.
@narfcake I just got one with the "50 Days of Crap" round. When the order went through, I felt no sense of elation, no joy at getting a mystery... just the relief of not having to frantically refresh to get a fucking BoC anymore. Please, never ever do fukubukuros this way, Meh. I'd rather miss it every time than go through that again just to get one.
The biggest problem I have with Woot now is the prices are not good enough to make an impulse buy. Sure they might be $10 cheaper than the next lowest place but after you add $5 shipping, you're only saving $5.
That $5 savings is good if it just happens to be a product you were about to buy anyway. However, I would rather wait until I need it and pay the extra $5 at that time than to store something I may or may not need.
@cengland0 Also their no returns policy means I'd rather pay $5 more someplace where I have recourse if there's a problem.
@cengland0 0ften they're less than $5 cheaper than Amazon, and my gf has Prime so woot ends up being more expensive. Amazon Prime also delivers faster, plus customer service is better if there are any issues.
@nadroj ! I just figured out your username. Duh.
@cengland0 This. I remember when if something I wanted came up on Woot I would immediately hit the buy button because I knew there was no chance of finding as good a deal anyplace else. Now? Not so much. When I have to research if I'm getting the best deal or not then I no longer buy on impulse.
@cengland0 I've made more impulse Meh purchases in the past month than I have in the last year at woot, despite the 10 different sub-sites and woot plus "deals".
@cengland0 Well said. With Meh, I have a stash of knives, neoprene and other stuff I don't need just because it was an irresistible deal.
@lumpthar care to share?
@DeuceSevin Sorry. @nadroj has his or her (not-so) secrets, and I shall not be the one do divulge them.
@lumpthar North American Doctor Orange Juice? Funny thing was I thought you were talking about @cengland0 and I've always wondered what it meant.
@DeuceSevin I figure @cengland0 is the heir to the C R England Trucking Company Fortune.
That's clearly the only reasonable explanation.
@lumpthar I do own my own company but it was not inherited. I also work for a large corporation so I get health benefits at a discount.
Here's my problem with Woot Bags of Crap.... There is literally no value in this at all. Seriously, not even some sort of real bag anymore. That was the one thing you could count on. At the very least, a camera bag that would never get used but you know if would cost you a few bucks to buy. Now they send the 5 cent paper bag. Guess I should be super excited by the two bags of wooden beads, huh? Or maybe the dollar store voice recorder since you know, my freaking iPhone makes it so difficult to record a memo. All I can say is, fuck them and what they've turned into.
@Cinoclav That travel wine mug is nice. I think the polaroid doc goes for lilke $5. You certainly got your $3 worth. (even $5 worth now)
@medz Yup, at a buck an item you got your money back. But even the wine glass can be found at the Dollar Tree for a dollar. I count up $6 worth of crap.
@medz @Teripie It's not a travel wine mug. It's a piece of shit plastic mug with no top to it that only allows you to fill it halfway due to the idiotic wine shaped insert. It's also that type of plastic that you can tell is going to start cracking on it's own. The Polaroid dock is even more useless unless you own a Nintendo DSi. I don't know anyone that owns one.
@Cinoclav Just think... There's probably some sad sack who has a DSi, drinks chilled wine on the go, doesn't like wasting his phone's battery/memory to record voice memos, and has a kid who would die for that crazy straw but he totally missed out on the BOC because you bought it. One man's crap is another's treasure.
@medz Thank your granddad for donating that plaid button up shirt.
@Cinoclav I know it's a piece of shit plastic wine glass thingy. Like I said, the Dollar Tree carries them.
@Teripie That comment was geared towards medz who mentioned 'That travel wine mug is nice.'
@nadroj I'm missing the reference.... plaid shirt?
@Cinoclav You made out better than I did on the last BOC. All I got was that polaroid thing and a bunch of promotional freebies from local businesses. Literally a plastic ice scraper and some pens that somebody probably had in their desk.
@medz @cinoclav Yep - that's my target demographic right there. Fuck you and your ability to score that crap. I'm going to have to drink my wine from the box and no crazy straw, while my pink DSi mocks me.
I love purple.
@Pamtha I just looked back over all my purchases at woot. Scored 16 Bags of Crap since I joined in July 2008. Not too bad all things considered. Though not nearly as much as some others who have more time on their hands. Btw, I'd send you both items except shipping would cost more than the value of them!
@Cinoclav Outstanding Response.....I agree with you last sentence
@somf69 As you can see below, I'm giving them one final chance to impress me. One more shitty BoC and I'll never even try for another one.
@medz EDIT: looks like it automatically converts to an embed. You want this after youtube.com: /watch?v=QK8mJJJvaes&t=2m11s . (or just skip to 2m11s manually)
@michabailey ah. Thanks.
I saw one of those pop up today. Was gone in a split second. Said something like Bag of Mountain crap. Was probably full of those water filtering straws they've been pushing for ever.
I hadn't been to woot in ages. Then the other day I looked up my join date to post to a thread here. And yesterday I noticed the extended woof-off, so I figured I'd try to get one their fake-o-bukuros. Took more than a few tries, but now I'll be able to compare the one Fukubukuro I've managed to get (#3, IIRC; joined Kickstarter too late to get one then) to a Bag of Crap. Yay?
@pwinn my condolences on your loss of $10
@nadroj It's worse than that. I live in Texas, so it was $10.83!
So, the idiot that I am, I figured I'd give them one very last chance. Didn't take much to snag one. If this one is as bad as the last, consider it my last ever Bag of Crap. Long live the Fukubukuro!
@Cinoclav Hopefully there will be pictures here?
@dashcloud Absolutely. I love to share the misery!
@Cinoclav My last one was similar to what you posted above, along with some pens and notepads from an Indiana church. This may be my last BOC as well. My fukus have been much better.
@iluvmingos No doubt. The birthday BoC's were decent, but they were definitely an exception in the past year. I just pray that meh doesn't follow suit with the Fukus now that there's a much larger user base.
Got one as well early this AM. Will post pictures to compare contents between Fuku #4 and the BOC. I can pretty much guess who wins! I must admit, though, it is still a rush to score one on Woot, although the elation is pretty short lived since there is no real prospect of scoring anything good.
I got one on the first day of the woot-off, and on my second try -- didn't even leave for work at that point yet in the morning -- roughly 7 minutes of "effort". Which of course, was the real win because I didn't have to worry about it for 2 days.
I've gotten (more than) my share of BOCs and for the most part, they have been worth the purchase. Sure, there are duds. Lots. But I've been keeping a spreadsheet of the cost, and what each item reasonably (i.e. at Amazon) sells for. Overall I've gotten about a 10x return on value. Now of course, not everything converts to actual dollars, but I've flipped a number of items on eBay and have more than broke even over the years.
It's still the hunt that keep me trying to get them, not the contents. For whatever reason, I seem to be pretty good at snagging them -- and that makes me happy.
I'm still pretty active in their community as well, and I like the people and postings there. That's got me more engaged than the items for sale at this point.
Apparently WOOT is cracking down on people with multiple accounts getting all the BOC they offer. Unfortunatly the innocent are being targeted too.
This is a message sent to ADQ. Sorry for the length.
agingdragqueen wrote:
59 orders to be cancelled- so about a 6% (found) dupe rate out of a total 1000 orders.
Cancels (for the dupes, you see) & emails (for everyone!) should be sending a little later today, I bet crap will start shipping tomorrow if the Woot Gods have been properly praised.[/quote]
So my 13 year old son asked me an interesting question tonight, "Why was my Bunch of Clipping cancelled?" "I don't know," I told him, "let's look."
Low and behold it was. And an email in his email box said he requested it.
That's when I looked at my Bunch of Clipping and it too was cancelled! I however, did not get an email telling me it was gone.
I got mine about 1am and I guess my celebration was a bit loud 'cause I woke everyone up. After I went to bed my son got onto his WOOT account and managed to score his very first Bunch of Clipping! He was so excited that he blew his cover and got in trouble with his Dad.
Dad then sat down and scored his own Bunch of Clipping which apparently isn't cancelled.
Could someone please explain to me why my son is to be denied his very first Bunch of Clipping He got it fair and square notwithstanding the hour he did it on a school night.
manhandsha wrote:
I can't say for sure, but it sounds like it's probably because it's all the same address/possibly credit card.
ADQ will be out tomorrow, but you can PM her for cancel specifics.
Same address obviously, my son is 13 and his Dad still lives here... for now. Different credit cards and email because we heard this could cause problems. So are we saying WOOT is anti-family? One Bunch of Clipping per household?
manhandsha wrote:
We're not anti-family, but things look fishy when multiple accounts with the same ISP, payment info and address show up with crap orders. We don't have any way to spy on you more than that to see that you're different people. Yet.
That's a possibility. I'll check but a quick poll here:
How many of you have a 13 year old son with his own credit card and a separate address?
Edit: His account was set up so "HE" could buy a birthday gift. {a few years ago}
Edit #2: Yes the cards used are all in my Husband's name but I use a debit card tied to our joint account. {The secondary payment type is MY PayPal account}
peaceetc wrote:
They do the best they can to make things fair for everyone, but it's not a perfect system. Maybe you could make a bag for him and surprise him?
I agree. Nothing is perfect. And with about 1000 bags sold over 2 days I do not envy the task of sorting it all out. But when a mistake is made and this was a mistake, fix it.
I could fake a bag. His Dad offered him his. But he said, "Dad, it's not the same. It's not mine." (smart kid!)
We buy crap. We know it's crap. We know it's probably not even worth the cost of shipping it. The crap is getting crappier and we still buy it. $2 more? Not a problem. It's all about the rush of actually getting it. Watching it travel from Texas to New York via Oregon even though you live in Florida. Of finding it on the porch and having that "What the ... IS that" moment when you open it. And you still brag about how your bag was crappier than the last one or anyone else's.
You can't fake that.
Please fix this. Get my son his Bunch of Clipping
Don't make him have to remove his badge.
I wouldn't mind getting mine back too!
I'll let you know what happens.
@Telyman The thread you/your spouse have over there seems to be getting responses. http://www.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=6142845&pageindex=1&replycount=15
Sorry, but it seems I have lost control of the formatting.