I got one of these with my fuku. Didn't work, probably got a broken one... but found this doing research.
Don't know if this has been posted before, just want to make sure people know. I haven't looked into it a lot past this. Seems a bunch of employees hated working there though.
@awk smart man. I keep all my ip cameras on a secondary network without internet access that only my home server can access. Fuck people watching me in my own house lol
@Skylord123 in the app on the phone, when doing the "add camera" when you get to the screen with "continue" or "choose different network" there should be a "Manual Setup" button at the bottom. Just click that... I have never had any luck with the QR code setup... ever...
also these do require they are on the internet... until someone comes up with a nice custom firmware to make it all local... I think of them as "public record" cameras (ala dropcam)... so make sure anything you are monitoring would be ok for public consumption... that way you never feel bad when the video gets leaked.
@MehnofLaMehncha The WiFi standard it uses will be around (in backwards compatibility form) long after you've forgotten this gadget. Though the company servers it talks to will be in the scrapyard by then as well.
@Dizavid I wonder if you can delete them once you have saved, to make room for more. Is it storage for 100 saves, or you can click save only 100 times?
Video's not bad, motion detection is pretty good with selectable trigger area and some kind of nebulous sensitivity level. The app, unlike that of a certain other cheap wifi camera named after a hunchback, actually pairs with the camera and works quite well.
But! Read the fine print. No, dude, the finer print. Look for it under that sock behind the sofa. This device is strictly cloud based -- there's no card slot and no way to save to your local network -- and it has a hard limit of 25 uploads per day. And no, you can't take all the money you saved and apply it to an upgraded subscription, because they don't sell subscriptions.
@joshanderson you can watch in real time or log in and watch the saved videos, if you want to save any you can lock them and delete the ones you dont want. It saves up to 25 per day, theres an app so I just use my phone to check them each day.
@whogots I bought 2 of these a couple of weeks ago. I have tested the whole 100 recordings and i have gone over that. It has a limit of 25 alerts per camera per day, with probably 100 TOTAL hosted on the server. That being said you can easily delete each video after viewing and keep only the important videos.
@joshanderson As far as I've been able to figure out, there's no upgrade option, period. Which, whatever, you can download videos and delete them to stay under the limit.
@bbrocker I keep deleting stuff, so I don't know if it's 100 per account or 100 per camera. I'd assume the latter, just because their design strategy seems to be KISS.
You are somewhat mistaken about what you get 25 of, though: The number of alerts per day is unlimited, and each comes with a still image. The number of uploads per day is strictly limited to 25. There are no settings pertaining to the choice of still image, so you can't improve the amount of information conveyed by the unlimited alert behavior.
BUT you can contact them and they will get a recording to you if you want it. Customer service is super, super nice. We use ours to just keep an eye on the front door as I'm disabled and getting to the door is a problem for me. I know who is there and if I need to answer and we can see if we get a delivery or who came by. If you are in a super high traffic area where it will constantly be set off this may not be for you but it's great for our purposes.
Stanislav documented troubling security lapses including a wide-open configuration with exposed ports for accessing the device by Telnet and HTTP. IZON also used unencrypted communications and video streaming to and from the devices and an undocumented and hidden username and password for each camera’s Web backend that could allow a remote attacker to spy on the camera’s owner.
I would like to see the indoor applications at 14° and 131° F. Maybe I could keep an eye on my cold cuts or the upper reaches of my attic in the summer?
Wait until LED goes flashing GREEN GREEN AMBER AMBER then point the camera at the QR code
LED will shut off briefly then blink GREEN quickly
Wait until the LED starts blinking GREEN slowly then find the camera’s IP in your router’s status page (the MAC address will begin with 00:12:2A)
Log into http://{CAMERAIP}/mobileye with the username “admin” and password “admin” (MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE THIS ONCE LOGGED IN)
The mobileye interface gives you access to everything you need, including raw URLs for direct video (via rtsp) or snapshots (via jpg)
Legend {WIFINETWORK} is the name of your 2.4GHz wifi network {WIFIPASSWORD} is the password for your 2.4GHz wifi network {CAMERAIP} is the IP of the izon stem after it joins your 2.4GHz wifi network
@ChrisArgyle Thanks for the info but going this way don't you then need to have something monitoring the video URL, like a PC with an app that does that? Any suggestions? Does the mobile interface let you control some of the security holes, besides changing the default password?
@oldmantick iSpy is free (unless you want to stream outside of your home, then its like $10 a month). There is also zoneminder for linux and a couple others that are free.
Personally I use Xeoma because I can run it on my headless ubuntu server and use the client from almost any OS/Device (Haven't found something else that does this).
@oldmantick That would be ideal but the camera can still do a few things by itself like motion detection with video recording to your sensr.net account
As for the security issues, they've all been patched. Once you change the "admin" password none of those documented exploits will work
@ChrisArgyle For heck's sake, what are you trying to do - make these things a desirable purchase whose life will exceed that of their maker's cloud service?
@ChrisArgyle Thanks for your post! I was not able to get your method of configuration to work, but I did figure out another way. When I powered on my camera, it created a WiFi network called STEM. I connected to that network and found the camera at address 192.168.1.99. I navigated to 192.168.1.99/mobileye and I was able to connect it to my real wireless network and configure it as you said. Thanks again for posting.
@ChrisArgyle Awesome! Is it possible to do direct video streaming without changing the default stuff, so it still works with the app? I tried the default passwords but none worked for accessing mobileye.
@Supergeek If you want to do motion detection you can use the Linux software package ZoneAlarm. Feed it the RTSP video stream and then configure the motion detection in ZoneAlarm.
@Oxyacetylene Sadly I don’t think this is possible. When you set up the camera using the app it creates an on-the-spot random password for the “admin” user then saves that into both the app and the camera. They don’t share this password with you, the user, so you can’t use the cool local features like RTSP streaming and mobileye.
However if you set up the camera using my method you can’t use the Izon app because there’s no way to program the “admin” user password into the app.
Honestly I don’t think you’re missing out on much. I tried the app and wasn’t very impressed at all.
@ChrisArgyle OK that makes sense. I bought the two pack a few months ago and still have the second one sitting on a shelf. Maybe I’ll try configuring it this way. I like the capabilities of the camera but I was really disappointed to discover that you can only access it through the app. They market the app as a feature, but do not really tell you that is the ONLY way to access them.
@ChrisArgyle I really thank you for this information you gave. Unfortunately I have been unable to take advantage of this non-cloud configuration option. I get the QRcode generated and the camera blinking green quickly but then it defaults back to the AMBER AMBER GREEN GREEN. I am at a lose of what to do and am almost about to shelf these cameras as a waste. Can you please help?
@Nuus That probably means it’s not reading the QR code. It can be a bit finicky so try holding the camera closer/further away, zooming the QR code, etc. Be patient it will eventually read the QR code.
@ChrisArgyle I think an update for new buyers might be needed.
I just received my 2-for-Tuesday devices and the above instructions didn’t work. So, I had to do a little bit of hacking to figure out why.
I first installed the app on my Iphone and then decoded the QR code that it generated. It was a bit different than the above string. Might be a newer firmware.
But also, the IP address in the above string needs to be the IP address of your router. In my case it is 192.168.1.1
Here’s the string that worked:
WIFI:T: ;S:{SSID};P:{password};;10:12:;IP:192.168.1.1;PID:2000;##
Watch for the IP address to come through in your router’s webpage. You need to be quick and log in to the camera with the IP address it connects with.
After I logged in, I set up the wireless network by clicking on Scan Network under the Wireless Network menu and then Manual Configuration all the way at the bottom. I then set a static IP address.
Go to User Accounts and change your password for security.
In the video server tab, I found Intellivision Sever enabled. I disabled it for now (don’t want some unknown network having access to my camera)
You may also want to disable Firmware Updates because it may automatically update the firmware from stem and you could lose the ability to access your camera.
So that’s it for now. I will be experimenting with the video servers and other features and if I discover any new stuff we can do with the camera, I will let you all know.
@Retroplayer Excellent find. It looks like the IP there at the end must be a valid one for your wireless network. For reference, that is the IP of your phone running the Izon app.
@ChrisArgyle Yeah. That was what I found. I didn’t try a random IP, so it could just be the difference of the “10:12” part that was needed to be changed.
My guess is that this part is actually a set of flags telling whether it is using AES or WKIP encryption, etc… It’s possible that everyone will need different settings.
In that case, I downloaded the Iphone app, made an account and let it generate a QR code. I then did a screen capture and downloaded the photo to the PC.
I then ran the image through this site: zxing.org/w/decode.jspx
Then I just adjusted the string to my router.
If the IP address will work with the IPhone’s address then you might just be able to scan the QR code created by the IPhone and watch your router for the assigned IP address.
Obviously, you would not want to continue with the IPhone app, because this would set up the camera and change the password and lock you out of the web interface.
So you would just close the app after you scanned the QR Code.
@Retroplayer I second the above, I had to generate a QR code from the app as the miscellaneous numbers were different in mine… no idea what it means! What I did:
MAKE SURE you have a 2.4GHz WiFi network and that it’s SSID is visible (the camera goes into a loop if it isn’t - you can hide the SSID once it is set up)
Download the IZON app and get it to generate a QR code
Screenshot said code and feed it into a QR decoder
In the resulting string, change the IP address to your router’s IP else the app might seize control of your camera before you get to it. Also change the network name and password if necessary
While the camera is doing its double-amber, double-green flash sequence, show it the QR code - if successful the LED will flash amber, then green once connected (easier to do with a phone as then you can see the LED).
Find your camera’s IP in your router interface (hint: MAC begins with 00:12) and then go to http://{CAMERAIP}/mobileye** with account admin, pw admin
Change settings as necessary!
Having said all of that, I’m really disappointed in the camera. The web interface gives me some horribly compressed VGA stream at 1 fps, and the RTSP stream is even worse as it freezes frequently! Quality reminds me of the early 00’s when phones just started to record video in that .3gp format.
@alacarte I’ll have to try resetting one of my cameras and see what happens if I just capture the QR code right off the phone. I believe that you have a continue button to press after this step so if you just exit the app, it shouldn’t take control. And this would be 100x easier without the extra steps.
As for the frame rate, I am actually getting pretty decent frame rates on the RTSP stream through Xeoma. I have two Izon cameras and 2 d-link IP cameras all running at once.
The quality isn’t incredible, but nothing it’s decent enough for the price.
I modified one to remove the IR filter so that I can use an IR illuminator. The lens can be twisted out. I noticed when I put it back in that if I didn’t screw it back in as far as possible, the image was in focus but not as sharp.
It could be that you need to twist the lens some more?
A feature missing that I was actually surprised is missing is a rotate feature. Mounting the camera sideways seems like a useful function. You can mirror vertical (hang from ceiling) and horizontal but no rotate.
@Retroplayer Hm, I just gave the RTSP stream another go and the frame rate is much better! There seems to be a 1 to 2s delay but not really a big deal. Maybe my WiFi was having a moment last night.
Yeah my units seem to be in focus, clear enough to read a document up close, just that the stream gets super blocky if there’s even a bit of complexity in the scene (check out the hamster bedding there, there’s no way that’s actual VGA capture quality):
It looks worse in motion, those blocky bits are constantly rearranging themselves. Then again I work with Hikvision cameras at work, so I may have been spoiled already
@alacarte Yeah, that’s actually the compression used. Not the resolution causing the blockiness.
Unfortunately, I don’t see any settings to affect the compression ratio, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is related to the bitrate to some degree. Most modern codecs are designed to keep the video moving without dropping frames and to do that, it sometimes increases the compression ratio.
Eventually I will get into the embedded linux part and it can probably be adjusted there.
And sort of, you can flip it upside or left to right, but I was talking about 90 degree rotation (camera sideways.)
@ChrisArgyle Cracked one open and figured out the serial port. It is J2 in the top right corner of the bottom PCB (you need to remove the wifi module first.)
Top facing up:
1 - 3.3v TXD - 2
3 - GND RXD - 4
I dumped the linux console output and I’ll post it somewhere when I get a chance. I did get a prompt at the end of the boot, but I have not figured out how to get it to respond to anything. Console output does say that busybox is installed, so it should be accessible.
I seem to have bricked one of mine, it just flashes o-o-g-g and won’t read qr codes anymore, or host the STEM wifi that you can use to configure it before it is paired with your network. I’m hoping that your adventures into the serial console might reveal a way to un-brick my one.
@Retroplayer I have not taken it apart yet, might be getting it replaced under warranty, but if not I have no qualms about cracking it open. I had been trying to set it up with the QR-code method and that was not working I could see it trying to connect changing from the o-o-g-g to g-g-g-g-g-… but would not stick. So then I found the STEM adhoc network it provides got in to the web set up page configured my network watched it reboot then it went back to o-o-g-g. The second cam configured just fine using the STEM adhoc network.
@Aecium The one that I had apart, I had taken out the lens and removed the IR filter so it would work with IR lights. Somehow I reset everything while I had it apart and I couldn’t get it to connect with the QR codes. After I did the following method, I discovered that the lens was not screwed in all the way and the image was so blurry it couldn’t read the QR code. Not the same issue as yours, but this is how I fixed it, so you could try this:
First, reset the camera completely. You do this by pushing in the button just above the USB port (it’s a tiny hole.) Hold it in for about 30 seconds with power applied.
Now the camera should be blinking orange-orange green-green (since yours is already blinking this way, you could try the following without resetting it, but I recommend it.)
Download the Izon View app for your phone. Change your phone wifi to the STEM network that pops up.
Do Add Camera and choose “Used/Other Camera” then select the O-O-G-G pattern. On the next screen choose Manual Setup. The next screen will ask you what wifi network, the security type and the password. Enter the details for your router.
The app will then configure the camera for your router and after success, the app will ask you to switch back the phone wifi to your router’s network. Don’t do this. Just close the app completely.
Go into your router and search for attached devices and find your camera’s IP.
Navigate to [IP ADDRESS}/mobileye
Then go to the wireless tab and manually configure it for the network and change the password under user accounts.
The above steps are confirmed to work. No QR code is needed to hack these cameras. This is not just recovery, but will work on a camera right out of the box.
The trick is that part where the app wants you to reconnect your phone to your router. If you were to continue there, it would connect to the camera and set a password and you would be restricted to the phone app because you wouldn’t know the password to log in to the webpage anymore.
If the above gets you back up and running, please come back and confirm for the benefit of others.
@Retroplayer yeah, I have tried the full reset with no luck, the camera will not host the STEM network anymore. so at this point I waiting to hear back from Izon about a replacement. Will report back on how that goes, if it does not then I’ll be cracking my cam open
@Retroplayer This approach worked perfectly for me! I am now able to rtsp stream from VLC. My next question is whether I can still enable all of the app features or if I’m limited to only the PC based setup I manually configured? It would be nice to still leverage the iOS based view and alerts, but wasn’t sure how to go about connecting it still to iOS without undo-ing the hack. Thoughts?
@imknapik My guess is that you cannot. Although, really the only thing keeping you from doing that (I believe) is that the app sets up a random password as part of the set up. It will not let you add a camera without doing that.
The only possible way is if you could gain access to the configuration files on your phone and manually build a config for the camera using your assigned password. For the iphone, that would require a jailbroken phone and I would have no idea what to tell you to do.
@Retroplayer thank you for the response on this. Do you recommend a specific application/provider for dumping the RTSP feed to a server for playback? I have seen reference to VLC and FFMgeg code options, but not sure if those are best.
@Retroplayer How much farther did you get with this? I have 2 of these, just realized how to get into mobileye, and I’m a developer with too much free time.
@ChrisArgyle I did a reverse engineering to this camera and I was able to identify how the string works properly, the string gave by the users are ok but its built depending your ssid and password.
I tried all examples in this thread without success, than I figureout how to accomplish the configuration using the following process.
SSID = network SSID
password = network password
ssid_blen = length of the ssid string
password_blen = length of the password string
ip = I have used my router IP
port = 2000 (doesnt matter, used the one provided in first message)
I bought one of the earlier Wi-Fi cameras. Does anybody know aftermarket shields (e.g. a Lucite box) that you can use to mount these outdoors? Our outdoor temperatures are well within the device's operating range.
@madamehardy I don't know about aftermarket cases, but you could use the packaging the camera came in. It actually comes in a pretty sturdy case that is see-through. Just waterproof the seal and call it a day.
Was tempted to jump on this to keep tabs on our cat and her automatic feeder while we're out of town. Then I remembered the surplus of Android devices lying around the house.
Looking up home monitoring tools quickly turned up slick apps like Alfred and Perch which turn a phone or tablet into a surveillance cam with push notifications and weeks of recordings. Aaand I just picked up another Android phone for 10 bucks...
@riceatusc and it is going all kinds of weird ways to be shipped. Shippjng info was received last wednesday, in fort worth tx on monday. In transit to dallas the past 2 days. No other of my meh packages have ever been to these two cities. Weird
@pitttechtk Also make sure the 2.4GHz network is visible during set up, you can hide it again after the initial setup. I usually keep my 2.4GHz hidden as its more of a “service” network (for my cheap-ass wireless printer… and now my cheap-ass wireless camera)
People moan and groan about these not having “Night Vision” when in reality they are just lacking a few IR diodes. For the price here, you can easily build an I R flashlight for Pete’s sake.
So if you apply the last fix to use your own server( not the Chinese server ) can you still use the phone app to view your house or whatever? Can someone please let me know before these go off sale?
@retroplayer I was able to log into Mobileeye and change the password. I was even able to get the URL for direct http stream: Http://admin:{yourpasswprd}@{ip of camera}/maxim/streamvga.m3u8
I was not able to, however, get your rtsp URL to work. For what it’s worth I’m on firmware 3.1.55
Tech support and customer service have been very good. One camera in the pair mostly showed black screen with horizontal green lines within an hour of successfully setting it up. Tech support immediately responded with an offer to replace it. The next day the other camera totally failed. Yesterday two new cameras arrived via FedEx.
@manskybook That was uncharitable of me, how rude.
If I can’t give you a fish, at least let me teach you to fish. Here’s a search of the times meh sold these. You may feel free to peruse the sale threads, for the answer lies within several of them. Good luck on your journey. Don’t forget to take a towel.
I have 6 of these cameras, and would love to get them working again, and just came across this thread. Unfortunately, I have not been successful. Is it possible that this does not work after Stem updated firmware to plug some of the security holes? Or should this still work with the latest firmware?
If it should still work (I did upgrade them all to latest firmware while Stem was still alive, to prevent hacking, slap on head!), the QRC code does not seem to work, but I am not sure exactly how to position it in the camera’s view (I have tried quite a bit, but been unsuccessful).
However, the bigger question I have - without the QRC - is being able to connect to the ‘STEM’ ad-hoc network and set it up manually: when I connect to that, I do not get any DHCP IP, and get assigned a ‘default’ 196.254. address (meaning no address assigned), so I can’t get to the default camera IP of 192.168.1.99 … when the camera is in WAP mode, and I connect to it, should I get a DHCP address? Or do I need to manually configure one? [I have tried a manual address of 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0, but that did not work.]
If anyone out there can help, or provide any advice, I would greatly appreciate it! Again, I have 6 of these cameras, and a bunch of Raspberry PI’s around the house, and would love to connect these to my Pis.
Specs
Condition: New
Warranty: 1 Year Izon
Estimated Delivery: 4/22 - 4/25
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
1x Izon 2.0 camera
1x Magnetic base
1x 8ft USB to Mini USB power cable
1x USB power supply
1x User manual
Pictures
Retail packaging
Lightbulb for size
Upside-down
You can move it
Stick in on a wall if you want
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I feel monitored.
@mehhead look ma I wires!
@mehhead great minds think alike!
Got my eyes on this deal.
Now, if you could strap it to your wrist...
@MehnofLaMehncha Why stop at your wrist? Nobody wants to watch shakey-cam. Strap it on where the view is best. Duh.
@mike808, a cock cam? Huh. Wonder how many units that would move.
Monitoring this deal - picture that !
Not Again and Again and Again......
Does a video monitor monitor video? Awesome job!
@MehnofLaMehncha if you aim it at some video...
@thismyusername
Was hoping for a bluetooth knife this time...
Tee-hee...nozi upside down...
@sar5w backwards yes, upside down no...OK wait, I see what you mean in the pics. That's rotated 180 degrees.
Nope
More FosCam, less... this cam!
Security issues with these cams:
https://securityledger.com/2013/10/apple-store-favorite-izon-cameras-riddled-with-security-holes/
I got one of these with my fuku. Didn't work, probably got a broken one... but found this doing research.
Don't know if this has been posted before, just want to make sure people know. I haven't looked into it a lot past this. Seems a bunch of employees hated working there though.
@Skylord123 It's safe to assume literally everything is riddled with security holes, and plan accordingly.
@Skylord123 posted every time... they claim they are fixed.
When you say "didn't work" do you mean the QR code setup thing? if so just do the manual setup.
@thismyusername what is the manual setup? I may have already tried it, just dont remember what the steps were.
@awk smart man. I keep all my ip cameras on a secondary network without internet access that only my home server can access. Fuck people watching me in my own house lol
@Skylord123 in the app on the phone, when doing the "add camera" when you get to the screen with "continue" or "choose different network" there should be a "Manual Setup" button at the bottom. Just click that... I have never had any luck with the QR code setup... ever...
also these do require they are on the internet... until someone comes up with a nice custom firmware to make it all local... I think of them as "public record" cameras (ala dropcam)... so make sure anything you are monitoring would be ok for public consumption... that way you never feel bad when the video gets leaked.
@Skylord123
That might be preferable to:
Of course.
I'd buy it but still not sure wi-fi has legs. Who knows what the kids will be using this time next year??
@MehnofLaMehncha The WiFi standard it uses will be around (in backwards compatibility form) long after you've forgotten this gadget. Though the company servers it talks to will be in the scrapyard by then as well.
whoops ihbt
Meh’d to hell. It’s not even that big of a discount, after 100 uses it fills up, then what do I even need this for?
@Dizavid I wonder if you can delete them once you have saved, to make room for more. Is it storage for 100 saves, or you can click save only 100 times?
@OnionSoup I strongly suggest getting a few genuine laughs from true clean (non-nasty) classic Jewish humor at this site: http://www.haruth.com/jhumor/
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How much for the light bulb?
I might pay $22 for a good ol' incadescent...
@TheStas (psst they are really cheap at the stores, but if you want to I'll send you one for $22)
Deja vu...
Video's not bad, motion detection is pretty good with selectable trigger area and some kind of nebulous sensitivity level. The app, unlike that of a certain other cheap wifi camera named after a hunchback, actually pairs with the camera and works quite well.
But! Read the fine print. No, dude, the finer print. Look for it under that sock behind the sofa. This device is strictly cloud based -- there's no card slot and no way to save to your local network -- and it has a hard limit of 25 uploads per day. And no, you can't take all the money you saved and apply it to an upgraded subscription, because they don't sell subscriptions.
@whogots so how much is it per save after the 100? how does it actually work?
@joshanderson you can watch in real time or log in and watch the saved videos, if you want to save any you can lock them and delete the ones you dont want. It saves up to 25 per day, theres an app so I just use my phone to check them each day.
@whogots I bought 2 of these a couple of weeks ago. I have tested the whole 100 recordings and i have gone over that. It has a limit of 25 alerts per camera per day, with probably 100 TOTAL hosted on the server. That being said you can easily delete each video after viewing and keep only the important videos.
@joshanderson As far as I've been able to figure out, there's no upgrade option, period. Which, whatever, you can download videos and delete them to stay under the limit.
@bbrocker I keep deleting stuff, so I don't know if it's 100 per account or 100 per camera. I'd assume the latter, just because their design strategy seems to be KISS.
You are somewhat mistaken about what you get 25 of, though: The number of alerts per day is unlimited, and each comes with a still image. The number of uploads per day is strictly limited to 25. There are no settings pertaining to the choice of still image, so you can't improve the amount of information conveyed by the unlimited alert behavior.
CORRECTION, @ChrisArgyle explains somewhere else in this thread that you CAN use it on LAN storage. Yay!
BUT you can contact them and they will get a recording to you if you want it. Customer service is super, super nice. We use ours to just keep an eye on the front door as I'm disabled and getting to the door is a problem for me. I know who is there and if I need to answer and we can see if we get a delivery or who came by. If you are in a super high traffic area where it will constantly be set off this may not be for you but it's great for our purposes.
Has anyone else noticed that IZON spelled upside down is NOZI?
@TheDagda IZON spelled upside down is still IZON, pretty cool. If you turn the camera upside down then the name is reversed to NOZI
Upside down and reversed are two very different concepts.
Anyone notice STEM backwards spells METS!!! Truly awesome!!!
@leti1111 Mets means metastases :/
Meh gong
https://securityledger.com/2013/10/apple-store-favorite-izon-cameras-riddled-with-security-holes/
I would like to see the indoor applications at 14° and 131° F. Maybe I could keep an eye on my cold cuts or the upper reaches of my attic in the summer?
@jc283 Now that is funny !
@jc283 Guess it wouldn't be the sauna. 180-220° F.
Especially good for watching to babies cry:
Meh, meh, meeeeeh
Is it possible to access the video from this camera by any means other than the app? Can I log into the camera from a browser or VLC, for example?
Long time wooter first time meher
I bought a pair of these the last time they came around and I figured out how to configure them for personal non-cloud use:
Plug in the camera; LED will go solid amber
Create a QR code (http://goqr.me/) from the string
“WIFI:T: ;S:{WIFINETWORK};P:{WIFIPASSWORD};;5:32:;IP:192.168.0.3;PID:2000;##”
Wait until LED goes flashing GREEN GREEN AMBER AMBER then point the camera at the QR code
LED will shut off briefly then blink GREEN quickly
Wait until the LED starts blinking GREEN slowly then find the camera’s IP in your router’s status page (the MAC address will begin with 00:12:2A)
Log into http://{CAMERAIP}/mobileye with the username “admin” and password “admin” (MAKE SURE YOU CHANGE THIS ONCE LOGGED IN)
The mobileye interface gives you access to everything you need, including raw URLs for direct video (via rtsp) or snapshots (via jpg)
Legend
{WIFINETWORK} is the name of your 2.4GHz wifi network
{WIFIPASSWORD} is the password for your 2.4GHz wifi network
{CAMERAIP} is the IP of the izon stem after it joins your 2.4GHz wifi network
@ChrisArgyle Thanks for the info but going this way don't you then need to have something monitoring the video URL, like a PC with an app that does that?
Any suggestions?
Does the mobile interface let you control some of the security holes, besides changing the default password?
@ChrisArgyle While trying to find information on the Mobileye interface I hit Stanislav's presentation on hacking the camera http://www.rsaconference.com/writable/presentations/file_upload/hta-f03a-eyes-on-izon-surveilling-ip-camera-security.pdf
@oldmantick iSpy is free (unless you want to stream outside of your home, then its like $10 a month). There is also zoneminder for linux and a couple others that are free.
Personally I use Xeoma because I can run it on my headless ubuntu server and use the client from almost any OS/Device (Haven't found something else that does this).
@oldmantick That would be ideal but the camera can still do a few things by itself like motion detection with video recording to your sensr.net account
As for the security issues, they've all been patched. Once you change the "admin" password none of those documented exploits will work
@ChrisArgyle For heck's sake, what are you trying to do - make these things a desirable purchase whose life will exceed that of their maker's cloud service?
@ChrisArgyle Thanks for your post! I was not able to get your method of configuration to work, but I did figure out another way. When I powered on my camera, it created a WiFi network called STEM. I connected to that network and found the camera at address 192.168.1.99. I navigated to 192.168.1.99/mobileye and I was able to connect it to my real wireless network and configure it as you said. Thanks again for posting.
@ChrisArgyle Is the camera able to ftp images, such as to Weather Underground?
@ChrisArgyle I have a local Linux server I can use to store files, but what about motion detection on a mobile device when I am off-LAN?
@ChrisArgyle Thank you!
@oldmantick iSpy is a pretty good free application for monitoring network cameras.
@ChrisArgyle Awesome! Is it possible to do direct video streaming without changing the default stuff, so it still works with the app? I tried the default passwords but none worked for accessing mobileye.
@oldmantick
No useful information there.
@jqubed Sadly, no. It seems all the “remote upload” features are tied to specific services like stem, intelli-vision and sensr
@Supergeek If you want to do motion detection you can use the Linux software package ZoneAlarm. Feed it the RTSP video stream and then configure the motion detection in ZoneAlarm.
@Oxyacetylene Sadly I don’t think this is possible. When you set up the camera using the app it creates an on-the-spot random password for the “admin” user then saves that into both the app and the camera. They don’t share this password with you, the user, so you can’t use the cool local features like RTSP streaming and mobileye.
However if you set up the camera using my method you can’t use the Izon app because there’s no way to program the “admin” user password into the app.
Honestly I don’t think you’re missing out on much. I tried the app and wasn’t very impressed at all.
@ChrisArgyle OK that makes sense. I bought the two pack a few months ago and still have the second one sitting on a shelf. Maybe I’ll try configuring it this way. I like the capabilities of the camera but I was really disappointed to discover that you can only access it through the app. They market the app as a feature, but do not really tell you that is the ONLY way to access them.
@ChrisArgyle I really thank you for this information you gave. Unfortunately I have been unable to take advantage of this non-cloud configuration option. I get the QRcode generated and the camera blinking green quickly but then it defaults back to the AMBER AMBER GREEN GREEN. I am at a lose of what to do and am almost about to shelf these cameras as a waste. Can you please help?
@Nuus That probably means it’s not reading the QR code. It can be a bit finicky so try holding the camera closer/further away, zooming the QR code, etc. Be patient it will eventually read the QR code.
@ChrisArgyle I think an update for new buyers might be needed.
I just received my 2-for-Tuesday devices and the above instructions didn’t work. So, I had to do a little bit of hacking to figure out why.
I first installed the app on my Iphone and then decoded the QR code that it generated. It was a bit different than the above string. Might be a newer firmware.
But also, the IP address in the above string needs to be the IP address of your router. In my case it is 192.168.1.1
Here’s the string that worked:
WIFI:T: ;S:{SSID};P:{password};;10:12:;IP:192.168.1.1;PID:2000;##
Watch for the IP address to come through in your router’s webpage. You need to be quick and log in to the camera with the IP address it connects with.
After I logged in, I set up the wireless network by clicking on Scan Network under the Wireless Network menu and then Manual Configuration all the way at the bottom. I then set a static IP address.
Go to User Accounts and change your password for security.
In the video server tab, I found Intellivision Sever enabled. I disabled it for now (don’t want some unknown network having access to my camera)
You may also want to disable Firmware Updates because it may automatically update the firmware from stem and you could lose the ability to access your camera.
So that’s it for now. I will be experimenting with the video servers and other features and if I discover any new stuff we can do with the camera, I will let you all know.
@Nuus See my latest response. I had the same problem and got it working.
@Retroplayer Excellent find. It looks like the IP there at the end must be a valid one for your wireless network. For reference, that is the IP of your phone running the Izon app.
@ChrisArgyle Yeah. That was what I found. I didn’t try a random IP, so it could just be the difference of the “10:12” part that was needed to be changed.
My guess is that this part is actually a set of flags telling whether it is using AES or WKIP encryption, etc… It’s possible that everyone will need different settings.
In that case, I downloaded the Iphone app, made an account and let it generate a QR code. I then did a screen capture and downloaded the photo to the PC.
I then ran the image through this site:
zxing.org/w/decode.jspx
Then I just adjusted the string to my router.
If the IP address will work with the IPhone’s address then you might just be able to scan the QR code created by the IPhone and watch your router for the assigned IP address.
Obviously, you would not want to continue with the IPhone app, because this would set up the camera and change the password and lock you out of the web interface.
So you would just close the app after you scanned the QR Code.
@ChrisArgyle I didn’t see anything about how to the RTSP stream, so here it is:
rtsp://{username}:{password}@{cameraIP}:554/test_VGA
@Retroplayer I second the above, I had to generate a QR code from the app as the miscellaneous numbers were different in mine… no idea what it means! What I did:
Having said all of that, I’m really disappointed in the camera. The web interface gives me some horribly compressed VGA stream at 1 fps, and the RTSP stream is even worse as it freezes frequently! Quality reminds me of the early 00’s when phones just started to record video in that .3gp format.
@alacarte I’ll have to try resetting one of my cameras and see what happens if I just capture the QR code right off the phone. I believe that you have a continue button to press after this step so if you just exit the app, it shouldn’t take control. And this would be 100x easier without the extra steps.
As for the frame rate, I am actually getting pretty decent frame rates on the RTSP stream through Xeoma. I have two Izon cameras and 2 d-link IP cameras all running at once.
The quality isn’t incredible, but nothing it’s decent enough for the price.
I modified one to remove the IR filter so that I can use an IR illuminator. The lens can be twisted out. I noticed when I put it back in that if I didn’t screw it back in as far as possible, the image was in focus but not as sharp.
It could be that you need to twist the lens some more?
A feature missing that I was actually surprised is missing is a rotate feature. Mounting the camera sideways seems like a useful function. You can mirror vertical (hang from ceiling) and horizontal but no rotate.
@Retroplayer Hm, I just gave the RTSP stream another go and the frame rate is much better! There seems to be a 1 to 2s delay but not really a big deal. Maybe my WiFi was having a moment last night.
Yeah my units seem to be in focus, clear enough to read a document up close, just that the stream gets super blocky if there’s even a bit of complexity in the scene (check out the hamster bedding there, there’s no way that’s actual VGA capture quality):
It looks worse in motion, those blocky bits are constantly rearranging themselves. Then again I work with Hikvision cameras at work, so I may have been spoiled already
@Retroplayer Oh btw you can rotate in Settings > Viewing > Image > Image Orientation (it affects the RTSP stream too)
Unfortunately pushing the bitrate up to the 1500kbps max doesn’t seem to help much for the quality
@alacarte Yeah, that’s actually the compression used. Not the resolution causing the blockiness.
Unfortunately, I don’t see any settings to affect the compression ratio, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is related to the bitrate to some degree. Most modern codecs are designed to keep the video moving without dropping frames and to do that, it sometimes increases the compression ratio.
Eventually I will get into the embedded linux part and it can probably be adjusted there.
And sort of, you can flip it upside or left to right, but I was talking about 90 degree rotation (camera sideways.)
@ChrisArgyle Cracked one open and figured out the serial port. It is J2 in the top right corner of the bottom PCB (you need to remove the wifi module first.)
Top facing up:
I dumped the linux console output and I’ll post it somewhere when I get a chance. I did get a prompt at the end of the boot, but I have not figured out how to get it to respond to anything. Console output does say that busybox is installed, so it should be accessible.
I seem to have bricked one of mine, it just flashes o-o-g-g and won’t read qr codes anymore, or host the STEM wifi that you can use to configure it before it is paired with your network. I’m hoping that your adventures into the serial console might reveal a way to un-brick my one.
@Aecium Did you take it apart? What have you done with it before it bricked?
@Retroplayer I have not taken it apart yet, might be getting it replaced under warranty, but if not I have no qualms about cracking it open. I had been trying to set it up with the QR-code method and that was not working I could see it trying to connect changing from the o-o-g-g to g-g-g-g-g-… but would not stick. So then I found the STEM adhoc network it provides got in to the web set up page configured my network watched it reboot then it went back to o-o-g-g. The second cam configured just fine using the STEM adhoc network.
@Aecium The one that I had apart, I had taken out the lens and removed the IR filter so it would work with IR lights. Somehow I reset everything while I had it apart and I couldn’t get it to connect with the QR codes. After I did the following method, I discovered that the lens was not screwed in all the way and the image was so blurry it couldn’t read the QR code. Not the same issue as yours, but this is how I fixed it, so you could try this:
First, reset the camera completely. You do this by pushing in the button just above the USB port (it’s a tiny hole.) Hold it in for about 30 seconds with power applied.
Now the camera should be blinking orange-orange green-green (since yours is already blinking this way, you could try the following without resetting it, but I recommend it.)
Download the Izon View app for your phone. Change your phone wifi to the STEM network that pops up.
Do Add Camera and choose “Used/Other Camera” then select the O-O-G-G pattern. On the next screen choose Manual Setup. The next screen will ask you what wifi network, the security type and the password. Enter the details for your router.
The app will then configure the camera for your router and after success, the app will ask you to switch back the phone wifi to your router’s network. Don’t do this. Just close the app completely.
Go into your router and search for attached devices and find your camera’s IP.
Navigate to [IP ADDRESS}/mobileye
Then go to the wireless tab and manually configure it for the network and change the password under user accounts.
The above steps are confirmed to work. No QR code is needed to hack these cameras. This is not just recovery, but will work on a camera right out of the box.
The trick is that part where the app wants you to reconnect your phone to your router. If you were to continue there, it would connect to the camera and set a password and you would be restricted to the phone app because you wouldn’t know the password to log in to the webpage anymore.
If the above gets you back up and running, please come back and confirm for the benefit of others.
@Retroplayer yeah, I have tried the full reset with no luck, the camera will not host the STEM network anymore. so at this point I waiting to hear back from Izon about a replacement. Will report back on how that goes, if it does not then I’ll be cracking my cam open
They are replacing my cam that had stopped working, working with them was fine. New one is on the way.
@Retroplayer I followed these steps, but it’s asking me for a username and password to log in.
@skaterrj Holy crap. Admin/admin worked.
@skaterrj Yep. Sorry, I missed that in my instructions but they are in the instructions at the top.
I’ll see if I can edit my comment.
@Retroplayer This approach worked perfectly for me! I am now able to rtsp stream from VLC. My next question is whether I can still enable all of the app features or if I’m limited to only the PC based setup I manually configured? It would be nice to still leverage the iOS based view and alerts, but wasn’t sure how to go about connecting it still to iOS without undo-ing the hack. Thoughts?
@imknapik My guess is that you cannot. Although, really the only thing keeping you from doing that (I believe) is that the app sets up a random password as part of the set up. It will not let you add a camera without doing that.
The only possible way is if you could gain access to the configuration files on your phone and manually build a config for the camera using your assigned password. For the iphone, that would require a jailbroken phone and I would have no idea what to tell you to do.
@Retroplayer thank you for the response on this. Do you recommend a specific application/provider for dumping the RTSP feed to a server for playback? I have seen reference to VLC and FFMgeg code options, but not sure if those are best.
@Retroplayer When I do ‘add camera’ I’m not seeing anything but the default option that leads you down the normal path. Where is the ‘used’ option?
@Retroplayer How much farther did you get with this? I have 2 of these, just realized how to get into mobileye, and I’m a developer with too much free time.
@festercluck To be completely honest, I forgot what I was digging for. I was working on two different cameras during this time.
I remember that I did get into the serial console.
Anything in particular you were wondering about?
@Retroplayer Nah, just tinkering. Anything with a console is worth looking into.
@ChrisArgyle @shoegoo Any idea what the RTSP string format is?
@ChrisArgyle the /mobileye link isnt working for me it keeps coming up as address not valid?
@ChrisArgyle I did a reverse engineering to this camera and I was able to identify how the string works properly, the string gave by the users are ok but its built depending your ssid and password.
I tried all examples in this thread without success, than I figureout how to accomplish the configuration using the following process.
WIFI:T: ;S:{ssid};P:{password};;{ssid_blen}:{password_blen}:;IP:{ip};PID:{port};##
SSID = network SSID
password = network password
ssid_blen = length of the ssid string
password_blen = length of the password string
ip = I have used my router IP
port = 2000 (doesnt matter, used the one provided in first message)
example:
WIFI:T: ;S:my_ssid;P:my_password;;7:11:;IP:192.168.1.1;PID:2000;##
after change the length of the ssid and password it works like a charm.
after that I accessed like described:
http://{ip_camera}/mobileye
in my case the camera user and password is admin/admin.
Would this work out alright as a baby monitor?
My wife won't OK this purchase, can I buy it anyway?
@deltonchilds Ask your wife.
@deltonchilds Are you a man?
@deltonchilds meh... going to buy throwing knives.
@deltonchilds
You are in jeopardy of losing your man card.
Ended up buying it.
@deltonchilds Let us know how it works out.
@deltonchilds Let me know when your wife is single. Can you send pictures (of her, not you)?
@DeezyGee sure dickweed. what’s your email addy… lol. Its so sad when a looser can find a pic to jerk off too.
I bought one of the earlier Wi-Fi cameras. Does anybody know aftermarket shields (e.g. a Lucite box) that you can use to mount these outdoors? Our outdoor temperatures are well within the device's operating range.
@madamehardy I don't know about aftermarket cases, but you could use the packaging the camera came in. It actually comes in a pretty sturdy case that is see-through. Just waterproof the seal and call it a day.
@madamehardy kitchen sticky wrap.
Thinking about getting one. How much is it after the free 100 video storage?
@riceatusc see @ChrisArgyle's helpful post, above.
Was tempted to jump on this to keep tabs on our cat and her automatic feeder while we're out of town. Then I remembered the surplus of Android devices lying around the house.
Looking up home monitoring tools quickly turned up slick apps like Alfred and Perch which turn a phone or tablet into a surveillance cam with push notifications and weeks of recordings. Aaand I just picked up another Android phone for 10 bucks...
@trisk thanks. I have an old android that I might be able to use for this.
Taking longer than a fuku to process.
@riceatusc and it is going all kinds of weird ways to be shipped. Shippjng info was received last wednesday, in fort worth tx on monday. In transit to dallas the past 2 days. No other of my meh packages have ever been to these two cities. Weird
Does not work on 5GHz networks...
@pitttechtk I believe a lot of routers use 2.4ghz and 5ghz. So it shouldn't be a big deal.
@pitttechtk If you are using a dual 2.4ghz & 5ghz network, make sure that they have different SSIDs and use the 2.4ghz one.
@pitttechtk Also make sure the 2.4GHz network is visible during set up, you can hide it again after the initial setup. I usually keep my 2.4GHz hidden as its more of a “service” network (for my cheap-ass wireless printer… and now my cheap-ass wireless camera)
People moan and groan about these not having “Night Vision” when in reality they are just lacking a few IR diodes. For the price here, you can easily build an I R flashlight for Pete’s sake.
equable-harmonious-journey
Looks festive!
So if you apply the last fix to use your own server( not the Chinese server ) can you still use the phone app to view your house or whatever? Can someone please let me know before these go off sale?
@bigtom67 I’m wondering the same thing. Is it possible to be able to remotely watch and then also use the RTSP stream etc?
@retroplayer I was able to log into Mobileeye and change the password. I was even able to get the URL for direct http stream: Http://admin:{yourpasswprd}@{ip of camera}/maxim/streamvga.m3u8
I was not able to, however, get your rtsp URL to work. For what it’s worth I’m on firmware 3.1.55
@elephant I can’t get it to work, either. I also tried using rtsp:// with similar results. I think the firmware on mine is 3.1.60.
Tech support and customer service have been very good. One camera in the pair mostly showed black screen with horizontal green lines within an hour of successfully setting it up. Tech support immediately responded with an offer to replace it. The next day the other camera totally failed. Yesterday two new cameras arrived via FedEx.
Hopefully this new pair will work ok.
oh dear these don’t work any more
@manskybook too bad nobody has repeatedly posted the fix. I’m not digging it up again. Maybe you should look in the forum threads.
@manskybook That was uncharitable of me, how rude.
If I can’t give you a fish, at least let me teach you to fish. Here’s a search of the times meh sold these. You may feel free to peruse the sale threads, for the answer lies within several of them. Good luck on your journey. Don’t forget to take a towel.
http://www.mehstalker.com/search.php?search=stem+izon
IZON SN:A146557 camera setup that’s the number for camera setup set it up turn on
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@Sexypimpjulio65 I deleted your email so you won’t get any spam. Did you need some help?
I have 6 of these cameras, and would love to get them working again, and just came across this thread. Unfortunately, I have not been successful. Is it possible that this does not work after Stem updated firmware to plug some of the security holes? Or should this still work with the latest firmware?
If it should still work (I did upgrade them all to latest firmware while Stem was still alive, to prevent hacking, slap on head!), the QRC code does not seem to work, but I am not sure exactly how to position it in the camera’s view (I have tried quite a bit, but been unsuccessful).
However, the bigger question I have - without the QRC - is being able to connect to the ‘STEM’ ad-hoc network and set it up manually: when I connect to that, I do not get any DHCP IP, and get assigned a ‘default’ 196.254. address (meaning no address assigned), so I can’t get to the default camera IP of 192.168.1.99 … when the camera is in WAP mode, and I connect to it, should I get a DHCP address? Or do I need to manually configure one? [I have tried a manual address of 192.168.1.2/255.255.255.0, but that did not work.]
If anyone out there can help, or provide any advice, I would greatly appreciate it! Again, I have 6 of these cameras, and a bunch of Raspberry PI’s around the house, and would love to connect these to my Pis.
Thanks in advance.