@medz@sammydog01 it’s a common Japanese thing to add vanilla ice cream, sweetened condensed milk, fresh fruit, and sweet bean paste to shaved ice. It’s really nice like that!
One of my first jobs was shaving ice, my dad bought a Hawaiian shaved ice concession when I was about 13.
It was a lot of fun. This was around the time or not too long after the movie Cocktail was out, so I made a hell of a mess several times trying to flip bottles and pour. That syrup is sticky as all get out.
Tiger’s blood (coconut and cherry) was one of my favorites!
Fun fact: The formula for the snow cone syrups we used includes FIVE POUNDS of sugar per gallon. You have to make them up with hot water to get it all to dissolve.
@RiotDemon I tried to find a picture and failed. But I did find a beekeepers site saying that to make a gallon of 1:1 sugar water for bees you use 4.75 lbs sugar and 4.75 lbs water, so it’s slightly more than 1:1 sugar/water.
As I recall it looked like it filled the gallon jug around 2/3 full, but this is a memory old enough to be an antique so take that with a grain of salt.
@moonhat I remember reading about this a few weeks ago. I was confused because I always heard it called shaved ice. Technically it is shave, but shaved is now accepted as well.
@moonhat@RiotDemon Ours was subtitled “Hawaiian Shaved Ice” way back then. It is accurate as it was ice that was shaved off a block. Superior to the common snow cone.
@djslack@RiotDemon shaved with the D makes much more sense. The Hawaiian guy I sit by at work always says it without the D though which seems so weird.
@cinoclav never had one with ice cream and mochi balls, nor one that was 85% out of the cup/cone. It seemed a little much.
I’m guessing Rita’s sells water ice? I had to look it up, we call it Italian ice down here. Good stuff but not the same as shaved ice. And now I want to break out the ice cream maker and get some lemons and make some.
@djslack I’ve had both varieties. Imo, water/italian ice far surpasses shaved ice. You just don’t get the flavor mixed through shaved ice like you do with real water ice. Rita’s uses special machines which are essentially like soft ice cream machines in the way they mix the product. There’s definitely a reason Rita’s has over 600 locations across the country. Find one and try a gelati.
@cinoclav I make no claims of superiority, sir. I don’t know of a Rita’s in my area, but we do have a local place that makes good stuff. The employees are rude, but the treats are delicious.
Yet another appropriation of a New Orleans original. ProTip: The best ones all use a Sno-Wizard machine.
The best snow cones (no hipster “shaved ice” faux nostalgia - it’s what real kids called 'em) always were from the original Sno-Wizard on Magazine a few blocks away from my house.
Proof:
If your favorite “shave ice” place doesn’t use a Sno-Wizard, you’re missing out.
P.S. Best summer flavor is 'Peaches ‘n Cream’ – peach flavored syrup, a wedge of real peach, and a generous drizzle of sweetened condensed milk on top.
Best Snow Cone Shack Name: Cool Hand Luke’s (actually run by a guy named Luke).
These summertime shacks on wheels are the original ‘pop up’ restaurants and food trucks.
@mike808 I’m confused. He calls it a snowball, not a snow cone. He even states that you don’t want the crunchy ice of a snow cone, so why are you calling it a snow cone? Around 1:27 for reference.
My job rented a snow cone machine and it sucked. All the syrup was at the bottom. If they ever do that again, I’ll insist on a shaver.
@RiotDemon 'Cuz its a snow ball in a snow cone cup.
The proper “shaper” is a truncated cone, not a round mound. At least in New Orleans growing up going to the OG SW, that’s what they (and every decent snow cone/ball, shave/shaved ice place) used.
@mike808 it just so happened that a “New Orleans Style Snoballs” trailer parked in front of my office this afternoon. Shortly before they left I broke free to give them a try.
They used what appeared to be a SnoWizard. Same design, did not have the white logo on the door but it did have an embossed logo I never got a clear view of because of where the employees were. It was good. A little coarser than I could shave it with the vertical shaver, but still soft and fluffy. The SnoWizard is very fast, probably in part because it shaves a little coarser.
I went to get tigers blood but was distracted by Creole cream cheese flavor. I’m glad I was, it was delicious.
@djslack The coarseness is entirely decided by the operator in the amount of pressure they apply to the feeder handle. IMHO, they were in too much of a rush or didn’t really know how to finesse true “snæ” from “da wiz”.
Wait until you get a taste of Creole Cream Cheese Ice Cream. I hope what you got wasn’t the abso-fucking-lutely not “Creole” variety from Philadelphia, nor the charlatanry that heralds forth from a humble “cottage” somewhere. There is a difference, somewhat like the differences between Crème Fraîche, Sour Cream, and Buttermilk.
Because if you liked an imposter flavor, then the RealDeal™ is a true summertime delight.
@mike808 that makes sense about the fineness, seeing how the machine works.
CCC ice cream is one of my favorites, which is why I was swayed. I’m one long weekend with nothing to do away from just making some creole cream cheese from scratch myself, and then applying it to both breakfast and ice cream duty. I’m actually a Louisiana native, just waaay on the wrong side of I-10.
Those weekends are few and far between, though, so maybe sometime in 2020?
One of my favorite summer treats when I lived in
Chicagoland was Italian ice, a variation of granita. Rather than using shaved or crushed ice, a proper Italian ice is mechanically produced in a process similar to ice cream: a large chilled bucket with slowly churning paddles. Recipes differ significantly, but most use fruit juice or puree mixed with sugar into a simple syrup. The ratio of juice/water-to-sugar is critical (and often secret): it determines the size of ice crystals, and the resulting texture. Something like shave(d) ice, but with the flavor inside. is the best!
Anybody had any experience with a commercial ice machine? I’m thinking of ordering one right now and the quality must be good, I was said. I just imagine all the stuff I can do with it…
I’d like to try all of these. The weather here has been H3 (Hazy, hot, and humid) for days and days. I do have a manual ice shaver somewhere but I don’t have any syrup. Hmm. I think I’ll have to do some experimentation next weekend.
I was gonna make a post related to this (and other cold treats) sometime this month.
I shaved ice
Did it play music?
@tnhillbillygal yes!
@brandom @tnhillbillygal “Everything’s Gonna Be Alright” and “5 O’clock Somewhere”
@tnhillbillygal my mom always told me when they play music it is because they are OUT of ice cream
No parking? Shaved Ice is above the law!
@medz They have a license to chill. I think that covers up to 4 parking spots to chill in.
Some of the people got what is called “Tiger’s Blood” but I thought of a different one: “Pickle blood”. Your thoughts?
@Targaryen ew. Stahp.
@RiotDemon Can’t now I want to invent a new snow cone flavor.
In San Diego they put a little scoop of vanilla ice cream in the bottom. It was really good.
@sammydog01 There is one here that does shaved ice with condensed milk.
It was ok.
Sonic does ice cream slushes (blended) and slush floats which are good.
@medz @sammydog01 My favorite drink from Sonic is Ocean Water.
@medz @sammydog01 it’s a common Japanese thing to add vanilla ice cream, sweetened condensed milk, fresh fruit, and sweet bean paste to shaved ice. It’s really nice like that!
@medz @sammydog01 @Targaryen Sonic makes a pickle slushie, haven’t tried it yet…
The ice cream truck that goes around our neighborhood plays “La Cucaracha”.
@lisaviolet Tricky, that is a song that is hard to ignore and sticks in your head.
@lisaviolet @Targaryen Hopefully it wasn’t a commentary on their last health inspection.
One of my first jobs was shaving ice, my dad bought a Hawaiian shaved ice concession when I was about 13.
It was a lot of fun. This was around the time or not too long after the movie Cocktail was out, so I made a hell of a mess several times trying to flip bottles and pour. That syrup is sticky as all get out.
Tiger’s blood (coconut and cherry) was one of my favorites!
Fun fact: The formula for the snow cone syrups we used includes FIVE POUNDS of sugar per gallon. You have to make them up with hot water to get it all to dissolve.
@djslack only 5 lbs? Here I am trying to visualize how much of a one gallon jug the sugar would take up…
@RiotDemon I tried to find a picture and failed. But I did find a beekeepers site saying that to make a gallon of 1:1 sugar water for bees you use 4.75 lbs sugar and 4.75 lbs water, so it’s slightly more than 1:1 sugar/water.
As I recall it looked like it filled the gallon jug around 2/3 full, but this is a memory old enough to be an antique so take that with a grain of salt.
@djslack that is a lot!
We had the most amazing shaved ice in Taiwan. It had fruit piled on top. It was soooo good.
No. Just no. Only the good stuff here.
Ok, not to be a butt, but I thought it is technically called “shave ice”. Without the d.
@moonhat I remember reading about this a few weeks ago. I was confused because I always heard it called shaved ice. Technically it is shave, but shaved is now accepted as well.
@moonhat @RiotDemon Ours was subtitled “Hawaiian Shaved Ice” way back then. It is accurate as it was ice that was shaved off a block. Superior to the common snow cone.
@djslack @RiotDemon shaved with the D makes much more sense. The Hawaiian guy I sit by at work always says it without the D though which seems so weird.
@moonhat @RiotDemon apparently the Hawaiian way to say it is without the d.
Also the one this guy makes is ridiculous.
@djslack Wtf?! Screw that, I have two Rita’s no more than five minutes away.
@cinoclav never had one with ice cream and mochi balls, nor one that was 85% out of the cup/cone. It seemed a little much.
I’m guessing Rita’s sells water ice? I had to look it up, we call it Italian ice down here. Good stuff but not the same as shaved ice. And now I want to break out the ice cream maker and get some lemons and make some.
@djslack I’ve had both varieties. Imo, water/italian ice far surpasses shaved ice. You just don’t get the flavor mixed through shaved ice like you do with real water ice. Rita’s uses special machines which are essentially like soft ice cream machines in the way they mix the product. There’s definitely a reason Rita’s has over 600 locations across the country. Find one and try a gelati.
@cinoclav I make no claims of superiority, sir. I don’t know of a Rita’s in my area, but we do have a local place that makes good stuff. The employees are rude, but the treats are delicious.
Dammit! Now I want one.
@stardate820926 me too. Around here I’ve only seen snow cones and those pale in comparison.
@RiotDemon @stardate820926 freeze a block of ice, make some syrup, and grab a santoku knife:
I’m glad it shaved. I do not like hairy ice.
@lseeber Takes 10 years off aged ice, too.
@lseeber @mike808 also makes it look bigger when shaved
@medz @mike808 pfffft
Yet another appropriation of a New Orleans original. ProTip: The best ones all use a Sno-Wizard machine.
The best snow cones (no hipster “shaved ice” faux nostalgia - it’s what real kids called 'em) always were from the original Sno-Wizard on Magazine a few blocks away from my house.
Proof:
If your favorite “shave ice” place doesn’t use a Sno-Wizard, you’re missing out.
P.S. Best summer flavor is 'Peaches ‘n Cream’ – peach flavored syrup, a wedge of real peach, and a generous drizzle of sweetened condensed milk on top.
Best Snow Cone Shack Name: Cool Hand Luke’s (actually run by a guy named Luke).
These summertime shacks on wheels are the original ‘pop up’ restaurants and food trucks.
@mike808 I’m confused. He calls it a snowball, not a snow cone. He even states that you don’t want the crunchy ice of a snow cone, so why are you calling it a snow cone? Around 1:27 for reference.
My job rented a snow cone machine and it sucked. All the syrup was at the bottom. If they ever do that again, I’ll insist on a shaver.
@RiotDemon 'Cuz its a snow ball in a snow cone cup.
The proper “shaper” is a truncated cone, not a round mound. At least in New Orleans growing up going to the OG SW, that’s what they (and every decent snow cone/ball, shave/shaved ice place) used.
@mike808 it just so happened that a “New Orleans Style Snoballs” trailer parked in front of my office this afternoon. Shortly before they left I broke free to give them a try.
They used what appeared to be a SnoWizard. Same design, did not have the white logo on the door but it did have an embossed logo I never got a clear view of because of where the employees were. It was good. A little coarser than I could shave it with the vertical shaver, but still soft and fluffy. The SnoWizard is very fast, probably in part because it shaves a little coarser.
I went to get tigers blood but was distracted by Creole cream cheese flavor. I’m glad I was, it was delicious.
@djslack The coarseness is entirely decided by the operator in the amount of pressure they apply to the feeder handle. IMHO, they were in too much of a rush or didn’t really know how to finesse true “snæ” from “da wiz”.
Wait until you get a taste of Creole Cream Cheese Ice Cream. I hope what you got wasn’t the abso-fucking-lutely not “Creole” variety from Philadelphia, nor the charlatanry that heralds forth from a humble “cottage” somewhere. There is a difference, somewhat like the differences between Crème Fraîche, Sour Cream, and Buttermilk.
Because if you liked an imposter flavor, then the RealDeal™ is a true summertime delight.
@mike808 that makes sense about the fineness, seeing how the machine works.
CCC ice cream is one of my favorites, which is why I was swayed. I’m one long weekend with nothing to do away from just making some creole cream cheese from scratch myself, and then applying it to both breakfast and ice cream duty. I’m actually a Louisiana native, just waaay on the wrong side of I-10.
Those weekends are few and far between, though, so maybe sometime in 2020?
@djslack GNO Native. Uptown and Best Bank, Heybrah.
You hail from Nachitoches or Shreveport? Or LaTech/Ruston?
Or did you just mean Metarie?
I stock up when I hit any Rouse’s or am in N.O. and pack 10lbs or so of dry ice to haul it home.
@mike808 Shreveport, although I also have Natchitoches roots and spent the late 90s in Ruston. So I cover all that except Metairie
Rouses is where I’ve gotten it before, glad to know I’m getting the good stuff.
Ululani’s Hawaiian Shave Ice
One of my favorite summer treats when I lived in
Chicagoland was Italian ice, a variation of granita. Rather than using shaved or crushed ice, a proper Italian ice is mechanically produced in a process similar to ice cream: a large chilled bucket with slowly churning paddles. Recipes differ significantly, but most use fruit juice or puree mixed with sugar into a simple syrup. The ratio of juice/water-to-sugar is critical (and often secret): it determines the size of ice crystals, and the resulting texture. Something like shave(d) ice, but with the flavor inside. is the best!
Silly techtard this is all that matters
We need a poll
Snowcone
Snowballs
Shaved ice
Italian ice
Pick one
Anybody had any experience with a commercial ice machine? I’m thinking of ordering one right now and the quality must be good, I was said. I just imagine all the stuff I can do with it…
@Soltoni Looks like you are thinking of making SPAM flavored snow cones.
I’d like to try all of these. The weather here has been H3 (Hazy, hot, and humid) for days and days. I do have a manual ice shaver somewhere but I don’t have any syrup. Hmm. I think I’ll have to do some experimentation next weekend.