@bfg9000@cpierce So glad I don’t need glasses. From the comments I am seeing, glasses-wearers have apparently been lulled into a reality where paying $34 for a plastic frame is an awesome deal, knowing full well that to get ANY use out of them, they will still have to go to a professional to get them retrofitted at what is likely to be an increased cost considering the optometrist can no longer offset the price with a kick-back from Luxotica.
Open your eyes, ahem, ears sheeple!
@frd1963, actually lenses aren’t that bad. My last set was around $30 and the frame itself was $60 something. Even budget frames are in the 40-70$ range. It sucks, but its better than not being able to see. Best part is my insurance will cover the lenses but won’t cover name brand frames, so this is a great deal for me.
@aetris Yeah, but no prescription lenses would make them more expensive than zenni. If we’re talking just frame prices, these are about the same as zenni’s cheapest…but again, no prescription in the Ray-bans…not to mention the hassle of getting those prescription lenses installed. BTW, my zenni magnetic snap on sunglasses are super bomb. I think they’re like $35? I can’t even do normal glasses/sunglasses anymore.
@craigthom I’ve got to give you credit as you nailed it! I worked with, not for, them for 14 years. Putting prescription lenses in these is not practical. They also are Eyemed and compete with VSP. The insurance benefits the frames, not the lenses. Then you need the correct sized frames for your eyes, temples and you have to pray they still can cut lenses for these frames.
This is so sketchy it’s just sad for all those that have already bought these Plano glasses. Hell, they aren’t even readers!
@Kerig3 I hadn’t seen that, but I already knew it.
My work vision plan is EyeMed, another Luxottica company. When I used my out-of-network benefit, which I was paying for, they made me print out a form and mail it in, along with a physical copy of my receipt, and wait four months for my money.
It would have been easier for me and them to just fill out an online form and upload a PDF, but they want to make it such a pain that people won’t bother. Or they did it just to punish me.
And they own all the in network stores, of course.
Buying glasses online is just about the only alternative.
@Kerig3 From that video, I was going to say good luck avoiding them. But then I got curious and looked. As best I can tell, I have lucked into wearing glasses that are not made by Luxottica at this time. They’re Robert Harris frames, a brand not listed in their 2017 annual report. So maybe it is possible.
@Kerig3 Shameless plug alert: if anyone wants super cheap glasses and stick it to The Man (Luxottica) I recommend goggles4u. They do seem a little sketchy but I’ve purchased multiple pairs from them and they’re always great.
@Kerig3@m33rkat I’ve actually had a pretty poor experience with goggles4u. Maybe it’s because I am nearsighted and have astigmatism, but out of three pairs I ordered (they’re that cheap), none of the lenses seemed right. Maybe they’re fine if you don’t have astigmatism?
The glasses I ordered from Zenni were right the first time.
@Kerig3 Sunglass Warehouse (a dot com, not sure if we can post websites here) is a really good place to get cheapo sunglasses of decent quality. Nothing beats the relief of sitting on a pair of sunglasses and then realizing you spent less than $10 for them.
I wear contacts primarily, but I’ve used goggles4u.com for two pairs of glasses. I have astigmatism and the lenses seem fine in the evening.
My spouse has bought 3 pairs with 1 being prescription sunglasses. If you buy the hella cheap ones (under $10) the quality won’t be that great. Get the $30 ones if they’ll be your primary gloggles.
@medz I was actually buying the super-cheap ones as a test to see if it was worth spending on a more expensive pair. It was my first time buying eyeglasses online, and if was a mistake, I wanted it to be cheap.
Maybe I’ll give them another look…
ok I can actually speak about these because I work in the optical industry!
These are authentic Ray Ban Ophthalmic Frames. You can buy these and bring them to almost any eye care place or some online optical sites and just have the lenses only put into these frames.
These are just left over frames from last year’s product lines, they should not be returns from private Dr. Offices that could not sell them. Retail on these are anywhere from $159 to $239 depending on where you shop.
Considering on what the reps originally sold these for, this is a good price.
@Kerig3@somf69 I liked their deal a while back that was 10 pairs of random sunglasses for $15 with shipping. I literally just found a decent pair of ray bans on the ground yesterday. I just signed up for a sunglasses once a month club for $5 then cancelled after I got a pair. I’ve got glasses everywhere which is just the way I like it.
@craigthom I don’t think that’s what they were saying. They were saying $34 is a good price for these frames compared to what you’d normally pay. If you’ve ever shopped at your optometrist’s for a pair of frames, it’s about on par with their “lower-end” models.
That said, I have a giant head and buying frames without trying them on has always led to heartache for me.
@jrstinkfish I have a giant head, too, which leads to a choice of maybe three frames at Lenscrafters, with the non-ugly one costing $200. No catalog, no getting frames sent in. Buy what’s in stock or leave.
Warby Parker will send you frames to try on before you order. For free. They include return shipping.
@demonbane Yes, design does matter, as does function. But design is also very subjective. Today’s men’s “Clark Kent” style frames would have been the “cheap” ones a few decades ago. Now you have to pay a premium to look like the “nerd with the pocket protector” from the 1960s. Fashion always digs into the past and rebrands it as “newly fashionable” and slaps a premium price on it. As a lifelong eyeglass wearer I’ll always opt for function over style. Otherwise, what’s the point, IMO?
Shop around your area for dispensing opticians. Most Dr offices employ them, or they may have their own optical shops. If there is a fee for using frames that you didn’t buy from them, it should be low (of course, consider that as part of the cost). They may not be able to guarantee the frame if they accidently break it, but that is typically not a worry for new frames. Old frames, however…
Of course, there are places online you can send frames to and they can put the lenses in (same caveats as above). Probably cheaper, but I hesitate about this option as there are measurements they should really take in person, and they won’t be able to adjust them for your face (fitting is really something of an art).
(My expertise: I was a dispensing optician’s apprentice for around 8 years)
@datruandi Yeah, you really only need a year or two to qualify for the license. I didn’t want to commit to the career, so I just stayed at apprentice level. The job obviously went on much longer than I expected, but I’ve been away from that job for a few years now.
I’ve been lucky. My eye insurance at work is apparently better than most. I get glasses with all the bells and whistles for $10 copay on top of the deduction they take out of my check. The last time I got an itemized receipt, the glasses should of cost more than $1100 out of pocket, which is outrageous.
@sammydog01 they don’t even have to talk me up anymore. Since I’ve had decent eye insurance I basically tell them to give everything. Polycarbonate lenses, anti scratch, anti glare, and transitions. The last time I ordered glasses, the person helping me was jealous of my insurance. Said it was better than they got working at the optical place.
@RiotDemon I’ve backed off on transition lenses because I heard they don’t change in the car and driving is when I need them the most. Is that true? I get magnetic clip-ons. Maybe I’m just a control freak.
@moondrake@sammydog01 standard transitions do not change in the car. They have a newer version that does work in the car, but they’re slightly tinted all the time. I like my lenses perfectly clear, so I denied that kind.
I don’t like to carry my sunglasses everywhere, so the transitions work well for me. I leave my prescription sunglasses in the car. I had glasses with magnetic clip on but I hated being limited by those choices.
@moondrake@RiotDemon Thanks for the feedback- I guess I’ll stick to clip-ons. I ordered a pair out of the catalog- just had to pay the restocking fee if I didn’t like them when they came in. They had a lot of choices.
Since you folks worked or work in the industry what is the deal on lenses? With progressive lenses which ones have the widest area of vision? I have noticed that some are far better than others in that respect.
@Kidsandliz disclaimer: I don’t wear progressive lenses (yet), and I’m no longer in the eye care field.
We sold mostly the Varilux brand (Physio, Panamic) progressive lenses because our customers seemed to adapt to them better than most.
Progressive lens designs aren’t standard, and the modern designs tend to cost more.
A modern design attempts to reduce the peripheral distortions that are inherent in progressive lenses. Without being too pedantic, people have a varying range of “tolerance” for these distortions. Some may be just fine wearing an older design at lower cost. Some are more prone to headaches and dizziness, and these people have better luck adapting to the modern lenses.
Unfortunately, there’s no good way to know if the lenses are going to work for you until they are cut and put into the glasses.
@t0nyc0tt4m Thanks. I had a crappy “the best they had” lens crafters one which had such a narrow area of clear vision that it drove me nuts. I have since then had lenses that have a wider area. Wish, though, that the reading part was wider than a couple of words at a time though. Fortunately I am near sighted so don’t even need reading classes with my “worse” near sighted eye yet. A friend’s husband does lasik surgery and won’t have it done on himself (he is near sighted). He says he wants to be able to see up close without glasses when he is older.
I should get my $20 Woot WTF Ray Bans today! Most I’ve spend on sunglasses in a long time. The free ones I won from Marlboro are starting to get disfigured on the ear pieces… I think my head sweat is melting them.
I just ordered new glasses today. The frames were $190 after insurance. But since the lenses cost way waaay more than that I may as well buy frames that I know fit. And, oh yeah, now I can’t afford to buy anything here for another few years. Except VMP.
I miss NOW, National Optical Warehouse that used to be in CC TX. I could get frames and single vision lenses for $29.00. Then they went up to $39.00. If only I had known they were closing I would have grabbed another 10 pair or so…lol