One ply vs two ply toilet paper
6In my haste to insure I did not run out of this valuable commodity, I purchased what can only be described as one step up from sand paper at Target. My wife said she would only use it for #1 and not for #2. I came to the conclusion that it was only usable for a regular BM and not for ones involving stomach distress. Has anyone else bought low grade TP for which they are now sorry?
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I never BOUGHT it, but let me introduce you to Izal Medicated Toilet Tissue.
The word “tissue” is a lie, and it’s medicated for a reason! The stuff was the consistency of waxed paper or brown package wrapping paper.
I understand that it died an overdue death a few years back, but it was a British institution going back to the turn of the previous century. This could be the reason for the stiff upper lip.
@blaineg Oh, Yanks would call it John Wayne toilet paper. 'Cause it don’t take crap off of no one.
@blaineg I can VIVIDLY remember using the French equivalent of that when I was younger. It was that same brown waxy finish, but I don’t think it was ‘medicated’. The main difference was that it came in pre-cut folded flats, sort of like the paper they use in the deli. Each sheet was about the same size wide as current toilet paper, and it was about 50% longer and creased in half. Every time we went to visit family half the suitcases were packed with American TP.
It’s was no wonder bidets were so popular in France.
I refuse to buy anything but quality toilet paper. I will never understand why anyone buys Scott tp. I don’t care if you get 10,000 sheets on a roll. The only thing that stuff is good for is tp’ing someone’s house. My ass deserves the best.
@cinoclav Actually the stuff I bought from target is Marcal recycled (from what) TP. Says two ply although you could have fooled me. My son bought 2 huge bundles of Scott one-ply as it was all they had-guess the old saying “your ass is grass” is going to apply to him and his family for some time.
@cinoclav
One big reason is it is septic safe. That was our reasoning for many years.
@ybmuG That was always the excuse used by many. However, all toilet paper is septic safe. Some just take a little longer to degrade.
@cinoclav So we call the one-ply “Septic Safer”
@cinoclav I grew up on Scott. Maybe I have a tough ass but it’s not a problem to me. I have not bought it in years but brought some home just as the world started going crazy. My wife was taken aback. She said it’s not two ply, but I told her it’s as many plies as you want if you fold it over.
We’re almost out of it now, and she suddenly likes the bamboo reelpaper I had ordered a while back that she stashed a few rolls of somewhere. I remember her not being a fan when we got it, but I guess all it needed was a recalibration of what could be possible.
My mother in law requested some tp when I was going out the other week. At Walmart all they had were four-packs of this stuff with a black label, white writing, “BATHROOM TISSUE”. 68 cents a pack, limit 1 per purchase. They had about twelve cases of the stuff.
I didn’t ask for reviews but I believe that was real John Wayne stuff. Probably the worst I’ve ever bought. This past few weeks has probably been the most unexpected boom for the BATHROOM TISSUE company. It’s going to be their best year ever.
@cinoclav @ybmuG It also depends on how old your septic system is. Every septic company I have used say to stick with Scott. Switched once (Charmin) & it was a very expensive repair.
@cinoclav Actually Scott TP was pretty good until they hired Chainsaw Ai Dunlap as CEO he maximized the potential of the firm and improved product design and manufacturing to the extent that the company was dumped to Kimberly-Clark.
@cinoclav @djslack
Exactly! I never really understood the point of using twice as many sheets to do the same job.
I have bought it. I have never been sorry for it.
/giphy no ragrets
One ply or two ply?
Yes.
One ply is better than no ply
@tinamarie1974 That is what I figured although I may live to regret it.
@Felton10 @tinamarie1974
@chienfou @Felton10
/giphy oh my
@tinamarie1974 Often times not, especially if it is septic safe single ply.
@chienfou @tinamarie1974 We really didn’t need to know what you fingered or even that you did that.
@Felton10 @tinamarie1974
member Sam’s club used to have 3-ply?
@bmf how luxurious
@bmf Not in their rest rooms for sure
You can solve the one ply problem by folding it in half…
@Kidsandliz
We used to stock one-ply at my father-in-law’s when the grandkids were little. Seemed they used roughly the same number of squares either way. So we had less toilet stoppages with little ones using too much paper.
Bidet = paper is mainly used for drying, not wiping. Even the commercial grade paper I use is fine.
@narfcake Seconded on the bidet. I splurged and stocked up on Charmin Ultra Strong on sale at Costco a few months back. It’s like dabbing your ass with cotton balls. Since you use so much less, its worth the premium.
@narfcake Yep, the bidets seem like a pretty good idea these days (two of our 4 toilets are equipped and I have a backup unit that I could install on a third). Just a couple of squares (folded) to pat dry. My wife is still slow to come around which is puzzling to me since she is the most toilet paper dependent one in the household and the supply is dwindling.
I prefer 1 ply and I usually buy Scott’s 1000 when on sale. Probably because I think dad usually bought 1 ply. You may think I’m a primitive. I think you weren’t taught how to wipe. We can agree to disagree and be condescending to each other if we must. I rarely ever need to buy more so that’s something. And yes it is better for the septic system. There are tests on this.
@unksol yeah,
My son and I had that same conversation a few days ago. He was marveling at the concept of using a shit mitten (wrapped around your whole hand) vs. ‘carnation’ style (bunched wad) vs flat folds… Only COVID could have brought this to light.
@chienfou @unksol So what’s the one true way?
@chienfou @unksol One of the most unusual/novel methods I have encountered was described some time ago by a woman on another forum. She advocated using a single square thusly: fold it into quarters and tear off the corner that is the center of the square (set aside the corner piece). Unfold the square and stick your finger through the hole in the center. Use your finger to clean yourself and then collect the effluvia and scrape your finger as you slide the TP off. Use the torn off corner of TP to clean under your finger nail. Then wash your hands and done. Never tried it myself, but it struck me as creative.
@chienfou @macromeh @unksol Creative. Well ok. But I’d only do it that way if the only other alternative is using poison ivy leaves as TP… Just sayin’
@macromeh @unksol saw this attributed to the USMC before
Anyone following TP deals should check out Tofu Vic’s legendary posts on TP sale prices over on Slickdeals. The man knows TP.
/giphy legendary
Toilet paper in some foreign countries, at least while I was there, was, umm, “interesting”. More like one ply thin but stiff wax paper some places. Or one ply and immediately soaked through and fell apart while in your hand the second it got even slightly damp. Other countries it was fine.
@Kidsandliz yeah, that’s what I was saying earlier.… back in the 60’s it was a ‘crapshoot’ so to speak…
@chienfou I saw what you pun there…
@chienfou Never been to France but it certainly was like that in some other European countries and some public toilets in the UK when I lived over there. Surprisingly in Cambodia there was halfway decent toilet paper where the tourists went. Of course if you had to use one while at the market good luck with that. Step over live turtles turned upside down on the cement floor and around sliced up meat or carcasses laid out, again on the floor, in the heat. Toilet was a hole in the ground with a place for your feet on either side. No TP. Buckets of water to rinse your hand off in although occasionally some had running water and if you were lucky some soap.
Needless to say when I shopped for food I did it in the Seven Seven as they imported food from Europe, Australia or New Zealand and only ate out in places that were “on the list” of practicing something approaching decent sanitary practices and where the meat did not come from those venders in the markets where it just sat out. Also explained why my daughter came to me wanting all food cooked to within an inch of its life, meat one hair breath away from being burnt/charred to inedibility, etc… It needed to be “Hot mom hot”, she’d say. Her first mom was a smart woman.
No.
/giphy bidet
@eonfifty Now one of my cats would try to drink out of that fountain. That thing walked in water no problem. Back when I had a bathtub he would walk around in that while I was in it. Would be curled up in the bathroom sink as if it was his bed, do the boneless velcro cat act if you tried to get him out. To get him out I’d turn the water on slowly and he wouldn’t get out until the sink was nearly overflowing with water. Then he’d stand on the floor shaking his legs one at a time doing the wet cat dance.
While clearing out Mom’s house, my sister found a couple of rolls of TP with a printed, color, floral pattern. It’s been so long since I’ve seen that, I’d forgotten it existed.
I usually only buy quilted northern 3-ply. The best for my ass.
I watched an emergency preparedness demonstration at a fair where they addressed sanitation issues. In the absence of toilet paper, they recommended that other types of paper (printer paper, magazine pages, shopping bags, etc.) could be made softer and more absorbent by running a sheet back and forth across a sharp edge, like a table edge. Of course, this was in the context of some kind of outhouse or latrine situation - I don’t know what the effect would be if flushed into a sewer or septic system.
@macromeh You would have to use a trash can instead of flushing.
@kevinrs @macromeh When my daughter and I spend the night at someone’s house on the Navajo Indian Reservation they took the toilet paper out of the bathroom as they were afraid we’d slip up and try to flush it. Good thing I had klenex in my pocket so we used that and put it in the wastebasket.
@kevinrs @Kidsandliz @macromeh
that’s the norm in many places in central and south america as well.
Who would have thought there was so much to say about toilet paper?
@Felton10 Well there is an entire thread about the toilet paper a bunch of us sent meh some years ago when they were, umm, short of it. There were some amazing rolls that some folks came up with.
@Kidsandliz Well for us old farts, it brings back fond memories that everything that is forgotten or deemed irrelevant becomes popular again. Wife and I bought Monopoly and Clue to play. Yikes- everything is smaller and more cheaply made these days.