Starred for the caption. Some of the original streaming content being produced is really good. I saw a headline the other day that Spielberg said they shouldn’t be eligible for Oscars either. This may be looked back on as the place where “the movies” took a turn toward irrelevance.
@djslack Next up: “HBO has been canned from Cannes”. I guess I don’t see any difference between HBO and Netflix, so why HBO would be eligible, and not Netflix escapes me.
Actually, I see their point. If these competitions are for theatrical films, then films which are never shown in a theater should not be eligible to compete. It’s a pretty simple distinction, and understandable given the struggle traditional cinema is in with home streaming. These awards are intended to promote and honor an art form that is in a fight for its existence.
If TV and internet film makers want an award that distinguishes films in that media and leave Emmys to serialized programs, then they should invent their own award and work to make it mean something, just as traditional movies did. It’s absurd to claim on the one hand that cinema does matter any more, and on the other to seek the prestige of its awards.
@RiotDemon I thought those were the awards at the urology convention.
@moondrake, you make good points. I haven’t distinguished between theatrical and other viewings in a while because going to the theater just isn’t really a thing for me. I know it is for a lot of people, though.
@djslack I just think that when you create an awards system for a particular type of thing, it’s not appropriate for something that isn’t really that thing to expect to compete for the award. The purpose of Oscars, Emmies, Tonys, Grammies, Stevies, Clios, Heismans, Pulitzers, Hugos, etc, is to recognize achievement in a specific field.
@moondrake Right. So we both thought “film festival” included different things. You provided a valuable distinction that I did not think of. I get the distinction with Oscars, but an far less informed about Cannes, Sundance, Tribeca, etc to know what they include.
They actually said that the Netflix films just couldn’t compete for the Palm d’Or (sp?) award but that they would like to screen them at the festival. So the distinction is possibly even more minute.
In response to the widespread backlash, Cannes announced last year that it would change its rules to require future competition films to commit to distribution in French movie theaters, the New York Times reported.
I think the real reason, according to that article, is that Netflix refused to release in theaters the two movies they allowed last year. This year Netflix was willing to do so for only a week, and then there was a clash with laws, revenues etc.
As @Moondrake said, the festival is for theater releases, netflix, as usual tries to eat the cake and have it.
@djslack@moondrake@mwgm Theaters are dying anyway. More and more people are choosing to stay home and watch on their big screens and not have to deal with annoying theater goers.
Got it right on the first line… pretentious douchbag.
I can’t even get streaming anything where I live but while at daughter’s did get to watch some of Ozark and I thought it was really well done.
I guess it just opens up too much competition for the regs there.
Starred for the caption. Some of the original streaming content being produced is really good. I saw a headline the other day that Spielberg said they shouldn’t be eligible for Oscars either. This may be looked back on as the place where “the movies” took a turn toward irrelevance.
@djslack Next up: “HBO has been canned from Cannes”. I guess I don’t see any difference between HBO and Netflix, so why HBO would be eligible, and not Netflix escapes me.
Actually, I see their point. If these competitions are for theatrical films, then films which are never shown in a theater should not be eligible to compete. It’s a pretty simple distinction, and understandable given the struggle traditional cinema is in with home streaming. These awards are intended to promote and honor an art form that is in a fight for its existence.
If TV and internet film makers want an award that distinguishes films in that media and leave Emmys to serialized programs, then they should invent their own award and work to make it mean something, just as traditional movies did. It’s absurd to claim on the one hand that cinema does matter any more, and on the other to seek the prestige of its awards.
@moondrake the Streamys already exist.
@RiotDemon I thought those were the awards at the urology convention.
@moondrake, you make good points. I haven’t distinguished between theatrical and other viewings in a while because going to the theater just isn’t really a thing for me. I know it is for a lot of people, though.
@djslack I just think that when you create an awards system for a particular type of thing, it’s not appropriate for something that isn’t really that thing to expect to compete for the award. The purpose of Oscars, Emmies, Tonys, Grammies, Stevies, Clios, Heismans, Pulitzers, Hugos, etc, is to recognize achievement in a specific field.
@moondrake Right. So we both thought “film festival” included different things. You provided a valuable distinction that I did not think of. I get the distinction with Oscars, but an far less informed about Cannes, Sundance, Tribeca, etc to know what they include.
They actually said that the Netflix films just couldn’t compete for the Palm d’Or (sp?) award but that they would like to screen them at the festival. So the distinction is possibly even more minute.
So the linked article kind of glosses over this, but the real reason seems to be that France has laws that only permit movies to go to streaming many months after theatrical release. This article has more:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/ct-cannes-film-festival-netflix-and-selfies-20180326-story.html
@djslack THIRTY SIX MONTH DELAY? So theatrical releases can’t be made available for streaming for three years. Wow. Just wow.
@djslack
I think the real reason, according to that article, is that Netflix refused to release in theaters the two movies they allowed last year. This year Netflix was willing to do so for only a week, and then there was a clash with laws, revenues etc.
As @Moondrake said, the festival is for theater releases, netflix, as usual tries to eat the cake and have it.
@djslack @moondrake @mwgm Theaters are dying anyway. More and more people are choosing to stay home and watch on their big screens and not have to deal with annoying theater goers.
/giphy nobody cares!
Got it right on the first line… pretentious douchbag.
I can’t even get streaming anything where I live but while at daughter’s did get to watch some of Ozark and I thought it was really well done.
I guess it just opens up too much competition for the regs there.