@yakkoTDI I make my soup in the microwave, from a box or can. I bought an Instant Pot in the hopes of making soup in it, but it’s still in the box and didn’t work out as planned.
Take my coffee maker, take my wafflemaker, take ice cream maker, take the stereo system, but try to take my Breville Pro Convection Oven , I’m throwing hands. It toasts, it broils, it bakes, it roasts, it’s an air fryer, it’s a dehydratior, it’s a pizza oven, it’s a slow cooker. And it fits on my counter, leaving the regular oven the perfect place to store my pots and pans.
@TheGreatNico
When I moved into my Apartment (don’t live there anymore) it was so, so, so, so gross and had supposedly just been cleaned by there cleaning people. Yet it had 2 inch rings of pee around the base of the toilet. I don’t think the person that lived before me cleaned once. Anyways the carpet was so gross my socks turned black after 2 hours of walking on it. All the appliances were either from the 80’s or not working properly. So I got new carpet and new washer, dryer, stove and fridge. If I ever needed to move into an apartment again I’ll probably never see one as nice.
@tinamarie1974 Ours was brand new when we built this house 24 years ago. It’s an electric double wall-mounted unit, and now the controls for the top oven are failing and only allow setting to 350F and below. The bottom oven controls still work OK so it’s not so bad, especially now that the kids are grown and out and it is only the two of us. Still, we should probably start looking for a replacement before it fails completely (no doubt right before Thanksgiving or another big family gathering).
Why are so many kitchen appliances these days either stainless of black? Our kitchen has all white appliances and it seems like it’s getting harder to find replacements.
@macromeh@tinamarie1974 I agree completely about the colors - I can’t stand black or stainless appliances. So-called stainless, which shows every fingerprint!
@macromeh@tinamarie1974 I like a kind of retro look for kitchens - all white appliances and porcelain sinks (but my sinks are steel.) I don’t like earthtones or industrial-looking decor in there. Primary colors for towels and potholders, etc. No florals or pastels, yuck - those belong in bedrooms or bathrooms if one must have them. What I’m really hating is the current trend for people to paint the outside of their houses black!
None of the above. It’s old, but not like an antique. I think we replaced it in 05-06. It works fine. I keep an oven thermometer in it and it is accurate still. It was never super fancy, just a typical ceramic top electric oven/stove.
Ours is old. How old? The color is the bronze/brown popular in the 60s I think. None of the knobs on the outside panel work except the one to turn on the gas. It still cooks food correctly once it heats up but you have to leave the door open slightly so it doesn’t blow out the pilot when the burner ignites.
@whomeyesu
That would be my dads house with the dishwasher. It’s a great dishwasher, was top of the line back in the day. Problem is nobody can get it to work where it doesn’t leak all over the floor. We’ll have a plumber come out and it will work while their there but when they leave it starts leaking again. It’s a smart dishwasher, It knows when the plumber is there.
@Star2236 Eye bet your dad doesn’t use both as easy accessible storage. Paper towels and paper plates in dishwasher; old unused counter top appliances stored in stove.
Older house (built in the 60s) has a Whirlpool wall oven with electronic/digital controls. Not original to the place but it was here when we moved in 20 years ago, so…
@compunaut Same here. When I redid the kitchen, I put in a new wall oven (not a double). The wife and I love it. Never having to bend over to pull or put things into a hot stove or peek is a wonderful thing. Loading heavy dutch ovens, pizzas or turkeys and roasts at chest-level is a game changer.
@compunaut Our Jenn-Air double wall oven (ca. 1998) has electronic touch controls for the top oven, but old-school mechanical dial controls for the bottom oven (I know, weird - right?)
But >20 years later, guess which controls are failing?
After mine was out of warranty, discovered that halfway through the self-cleaning, it would stop. Still locked until a repairman could open it. Then it would do the same thing. So I’ve been manually cleaning it for 20 years. The next oven I want (wall oven) will open to the side. More expensive, but I’ve never figured out why they have to open out. That’s really awkward to use.
@pooflady I was just at one of those high-end appliance showroom galleries. The salesman there told me to never use the self-cleaning feature on an oven. He said it would damage the electronics and your oven will lock and then may not unlock. Or, even worse, it will destroy the electronics permanently and your oven is “toast”.
He said to put a pan of water in the oven and turn it up to 500 for an hour, let it cool down enough to get in there, and then clean the oven the old-fashioned way, with a scrubby pad and sponges.
He also told me if the oven locks and won’t unlock, you have to trip the circuit breaker the oven is on and let it sit until cooled before attempting to unlock and open the oven. (I’ve never used the self-cleaning function on any oven I’ve ever used) FWIW.
I am almost offended at the notion of a glass cooktop being referred to as ‘old’. I know many people who are still happily cooking on open coil electric burners, and we didn’t replace ours with a glass cooktop range until about 15 years ago!
Mine is the copper-tone finish Caloric that was used as a prize on game shows in the late '50s and early '60s. The oven is on at least its fourth thermostat at this point, and I’ve had to do some remedial work on the flame bar orifices to remove corrosion.
@werehatrack That is our brand/color which I had never heard of before we moved in here in 1995. Told the house was built in 1978 but found out the contractor who built it lived here from 1968 and didn’t put it on the tax rolls until he was ready to sell it. Amazing what you can find out in a small town. Several thermostats for us too.
We bought the house from a couple that was doing great until Covid lockdowns ate their lunch. (Literally… they supplied fresh/local vegetables year round to restaurants) Anyway, top notch built ins. The oven is a KitchenAid built in convection oven with a matching space for a microwave but it’s a Panasonic one. There’s also a glass top induction stove top on the island that is the bane of our existence.
Dead. The stove burners still work but I think the igniter is out in the oven. I already have a toaster oven/air fryer/dehydrator or this one would tempt me.The part I need to fix my oven is only around $25 but the labor is outrageous. And by labor, I mean me. It’s just not happening right now.
@zinimusprime
My current single oven takes almost as much vertical space as a modern double, but mine is an ancient fully-mechanical-controls unit that will last as long as I can get a replacement thermostat when I need it, as long as the flame bar doesn’t crack. I’d love a double, but I distrust electronics when it comes to oven controls; their only failure mode seems to be “you’re screwed, not gonna work and nobody has the parts”. That has happened to two friends. So, my 60-year-old unit stays right where it is, and I can still bake cookies or broil some meat when ERCOT rolls a blackout over me.
@werehatrack You’re not wrong to distrust. My one single complaint with my double oven is that it has touch buttons. So if you just crack the top oven open just to check something quick, all of the water vapor condenses on the touch buttons and the buttons all short out and the panel takes a dump on itself. So then I need to go downstairs, flip the breaker and power it back on. It’s not a huge deal, but for something that costs as much as it does, someone should’ve thought of that before hand.
Not nearly as wide as the one that came with our house that was built in the 70s. They don’t make them to fit these old houses any more.
I did get an air fryer last year, an Emeril Lagasse Power Air Fryer 360 with our UPS points (they have a rewards program, I wanted a Cuisinart, which I’d been saving points for, but they didn’t have those available when I had enough points saved up - until a couple of days after I ordered the Lagasse oven - I should have waited), but I guess I just haven’t experimented enough. Doesn’t seem the cook time is all that much shorter than the oven. It does preheat much more quickly. Maybe if it wasn’t covered to save it from the cats, we’d use it more.
We did have problems with the built in oven last year, turns out it wasn’t a problem but the actual design for the oven I picked out. The temperature? Is an average of high and low. I bought a thermometer, just to watch this (one that has a wire that goes in the oven with the dial on the outside). Set for 350°, it would to up to 400°, then drop to below 350°.
How I found out was I had garlic toast on the top rack, five minutes a side and it burned. It shouldn’t have, the oven was on the proper setting. So, I got the thermometer. I set up a service call, the technician was here for an hour testing it and told me “that’s how it is with today’s ovens - you want a steady temperature, you need a higher end oven”.
@lisaviolet Using the counter top oven in air fryer mode really cooks stuff quickly. Ours powers up on fan mode until manually turning the fan off. You will be shocked to see the difference of cooking times. Something normally would take 34-40 minutes in the oven will only take 10 minutes in the Emerald 360.
Tiny little oven from the 1940s or so with no pilot light and a little hole that you have to stick a match in. It works pretty great, and it heats the whole kitchen which would be nicer if I didn’t live in a warm climate.
Electric, which is good for ovens even though it’s awful for stoves. It’s not super old, but far from new, and it’s about to be replaced because there’s a hairline crack in the glass stovetop. I’ll miss it a little—it’s the most accurate oven I’ve ever had.
My oven stopped working in August. It’s old enough and shitty enough that no one is willing to repair it, so I just haven’t baked anything in 5 months.
I have two now (technically three, but the anova is in the garage) and one is convection! It’s such a wonderful thing to have two ovens. I hope I never have to go back to just one. Maybe after the kids are grown, but even then. Just so convenient.
Gas cooktop/stovetop in the island with a double (electric) wall oven-- best of both worlds. Top oven is digital/touch button controlled and self cleaning. Bottom is controlled by a knob you twist. Both ovens still work fine, though it is getting hard to see the numbers on the LED readout on the top oven (light is getting dim). But since it is now just the 2 of us, we generally use the Cuisinart countertop toaster/convection/air fryer oven for most things since it is WAY quicker to heat up, has convection, and doesn’t heat up the whole kitchen in the summertime. Big enough for a 12" pizza so plenty of space inside it for most items we cook.
@chienfou Sounds similar to our kitchen setup. On ours, the touch controls for the top oven are failing - they aren’t true “touch” controls but membrane-style momentary action push buttons. The button that raises the temp of the top oven doesn’t work any more, so it comes on initially at 350F and we can only lower it from there. No replacement parts are available. The old-school twist knobs for the bottom oven still work fine, so we use it if something needs higher cooking temp. Annoying, but still usable.
Kinda a mess because i tend to be lazy about cleaning and then put more into the pot than fits and… So the stovetop really needs a cleaning and so does the top rack but it’s a full stove and usually works and the self clean works fine. When the stupid piezo ignitor works. Whirpool… Cause it’s not on a wall with the control board right on top with no ventilation.
The wall electric convection oven on the other hand has never worked and they knew and did not disclose that when they sold the house. I’ve pulled it out of the wall/cabinet twice. Heavy bastard. It heats up but then cuts off. It’s not the temp sensor its the control board. I’m tempted to try and reflow the solder in the other oven. Self cleaning cycle in a wall oven could easily mess up a weak joint. But. I don’t need two ovens so meh.
Gas oven/stove. We’re on our third. Cheap contractor grade unit died at 6 years old (and was horrible to keep clean). Replacement Maytag had electronics failure and was too expensive to fix, so now we have a mid-range GE that is starting to have electronic fritzes.
Next home I would not mind a double oven like we grew up with, but with convection, and a separate stovetop that has at least one floret burner (for even heating on a large griddle pan or skillet). Gas preferred if we can get into a place with it before the eco-nazis force all electric, as I hear is happening in some places.
Full of dead hookers.
@yakkoTDI Damn, you find a thread to first post on even when there isn’t a thread to first post on.
I guess, good job?
@guybrush01 There is something to be said about that midnight coffee.
@yakkoTDI Would I put this match in there if my friend Rocky were in there?
Great for kids!
(Yeah, I’m the one in the gingerbread house…)
My oven is not usable due to a gas leak. Been without an oven or stove for about 20 years now. Thank goodness for my microwave. And restaurants.
@heartny I can live without an oven but I couldn’t live without a stove. That is where I make my soups.
@yakkoTDI I make my soup in the microwave, from a box or can. I bought an Instant Pot in the hopes of making soup in it, but it’s still in the box and didn’t work out as planned.
@heartny
I need a oven for my frozen pizza.
Take my coffee maker, take my wafflemaker, take ice cream maker, take the stereo system, but try to take my Breville Pro Convection Oven , I’m throwing hands. It toasts, it broils, it bakes, it roasts, it’s an air fryer, it’s a dehydratior, it’s a pizza oven, it’s a slow cooker. And it fits on my counter, leaving the regular oven the perfect place to store my pots and pans.
Grody AF. Yay for renting.
@TheGreatNico
When I moved into my Apartment (don’t live there anymore) it was so, so, so, so gross and had supposedly just been cleaned by there cleaning people. Yet it had 2 inch rings of pee around the base of the toilet. I don’t think the person that lived before me cleaned once. Anyways the carpet was so gross my socks turned black after 2 hours of walking on it. All the appliances were either from the 80’s or not working properly. So I got new carpet and new washer, dryer, stove and fridge. If I ever needed to move into an apartment again I’ll probably never see one as nice.
Was super fancy about 10 years ago when I got it. So it WAS top of line, now it is average
@tinamarie1974 Same.
@tinamarie1974
Yep that’s mine.
@tinamarie1974 Ours was brand new when we built this house 24 years ago. It’s an electric double wall-mounted unit, and now the controls for the top oven are failing and only allow setting to 350F and below. The bottom oven controls still work OK so it’s not so bad, especially now that the kids are grown and out and it is only the two of us. Still, we should probably start looking for a replacement before it fails completely (no doubt right before Thanksgiving or another big family gathering).
Why are so many kitchen appliances these days either stainless of black? Our kitchen has all white appliances and it seems like it’s getting harder to find replacements.
@macromeh @tinamarie1974 I agree completely about the colors - I can’t stand black or stainless appliances. So-called stainless, which shows every fingerprint!
@Kyeh @macromeh oh I love the ss and slate options. But fingerprints are annoying
@macromeh @tinamarie1974 I like a kind of retro look for kitchens - all white appliances and porcelain sinks (but my sinks are steel.) I don’t like earthtones or industrial-looking decor in there. Primary colors for towels and potholders, etc. No florals or pastels, yuck - those belong in bedrooms or bathrooms if one must have them. What I’m really hating is the current trend for people to paint the outside of their houses black!
None of the above. It’s old, but not like an antique. I think we replaced it in 05-06. It works fine. I keep an oven thermometer in it and it is accurate still. It was never super fancy, just a typical ceramic top electric oven/stove.
Brand new, double oven, bottom is an air fryer oven…
Murica!!
Ours is old. How old? The color is the bronze/brown popular in the 60s I think. None of the knobs on the outside panel work except the one to turn on the gas. It still cooks food correctly once it heats up but you have to leave the door open slightly so it doesn’t blow out the pilot when the burner ignites.
Dad hasn’t used his in over 20 years nor dishwasher in 25 yrs. We use both regularly and are in denial of knowing someone to be so frugal.
@whomeyesu
That would be my dads house with the dishwasher. It’s a great dishwasher, was top of the line back in the day. Problem is nobody can get it to work where it doesn’t leak all over the floor. We’ll have a plumber come out and it will work while their there but when they leave it starts leaking again. It’s a smart dishwasher, It knows when the plumber is there.
@Star2236 Eye bet your dad doesn’t use both as easy accessible storage. Paper towels and paper plates in dishwasher; old unused counter top appliances stored in stove.
I wish I had gas.
@tweezak Eat more chili, the kind with beans.
Wow, there’s an oven in my kitchen. I wonder how long it has been there?
Older house (built in the 60s) has a Whirlpool wall oven with electronic/digital controls. Not original to the place but it was here when we moved in 20 years ago, so…
@compunaut Same here. When I redid the kitchen, I put in a new wall oven (not a double). The wife and I love it. Never having to bend over to pull or put things into a hot stove or peek is a wonderful thing. Loading heavy dutch ovens, pizzas or turkeys and roasts at chest-level is a game changer.
@compunaut Our Jenn-Air double wall oven (ca. 1998) has electronic touch controls for the top oven, but old-school mechanical dial controls for the bottom oven (I know, weird - right?)
But >20 years later, guess which controls are failing?
After mine was out of warranty, discovered that halfway through the self-cleaning, it would stop. Still locked until a repairman could open it. Then it would do the same thing. So I’ve been manually cleaning it for 20 years. The next oven I want (wall oven) will open to the side. More expensive, but I’ve never figured out why they have to open out. That’s really awkward to use.
@pooflady I was just at one of those high-end appliance showroom galleries. The salesman there told me to never use the self-cleaning feature on an oven. He said it would damage the electronics and your oven will lock and then may not unlock. Or, even worse, it will destroy the electronics permanently and your oven is “toast”.
He said to put a pan of water in the oven and turn it up to 500 for an hour, let it cool down enough to get in there, and then clean the oven the old-fashioned way, with a scrubby pad and sponges.
He also told me if the oven locks and won’t unlock, you have to trip the circuit breaker the oven is on and let it sit until cooled before attempting to unlock and open the oven. (I’ve never used the self-cleaning function on any oven I’ve ever used) FWIW.
I am almost offended at the notion of a glass cooktop being referred to as ‘old’. I know many people who are still happily cooking on open coil electric burners, and we didn’t replace ours with a glass cooktop range until about 15 years ago!
Just replaced my dead 16 year old glass top range with another two weeks ago. Nothing fancy but certainly not cheap.
Mine was new 9 years ago. Gas convection, so still does a great job.
Mine is the copper-tone finish Caloric that was used as a prize on game shows in the late '50s and early '60s. The oven is on at least its fourth thermostat at this point, and I’ve had to do some remedial work on the flame bar orifices to remove corrosion.
@werehatrack That is our brand/color which I had never heard of before we moved in here in 1995. Told the house was built in 1978 but found out the contractor who built it lived here from 1968 and didn’t put it on the tax rolls until he was ready to sell it. Amazing what you can find out in a small town. Several thermostats for us too.
We bought the house from a couple that was doing great until Covid lockdowns ate their lunch. (Literally… they supplied fresh/local vegetables year round to restaurants) Anyway, top notch built ins. The oven is a KitchenAid built in convection oven with a matching space for a microwave but it’s a Panasonic one. There’s also a glass top induction stove top on the island that is the bane of our existence.
Dead. The stove burners still work but I think the igniter is out in the oven. I already have a toaster oven/air fryer/dehydrator or this one would tempt me.The part I need to fix my oven is only around $25 but the labor is outrageous. And by labor, I mean me. It’s just not happening right now.
Double Wall Oven and I love it.
@zinimusprime
That will be my next house
@zinimusprime
My current single oven takes almost as much vertical space as a modern double, but mine is an ancient fully-mechanical-controls unit that will last as long as I can get a replacement thermostat when I need it, as long as the flame bar doesn’t crack. I’d love a double, but I distrust electronics when it comes to oven controls; their only failure mode seems to be “you’re screwed, not gonna work and nobody has the parts”. That has happened to two friends. So, my 60-year-old unit stays right where it is, and I can still bake cookies or broil some meat when ERCOT rolls a blackout over me.
@Star2236 @zinimusprime
Might be a little cramped, but I bet it’s warm in the winter.
@macromeh @Star2236 At least it has 2 rooms
@werehatrack You’re not wrong to distrust. My one single complaint with my double oven is that it has touch buttons. So if you just crack the top oven open just to check something quick, all of the water vapor condenses on the touch buttons and the buttons all short out and the panel takes a dump on itself. So then I need to go downstairs, flip the breaker and power it back on. It’s not a huge deal, but for something that costs as much as it does, someone should’ve thought of that before hand.
Not nearly as wide as the one that came with our house that was built in the 70s. They don’t make them to fit these old houses any more.
I did get an air fryer last year, an Emeril Lagasse Power Air Fryer 360 with our UPS points (they have a rewards program, I wanted a Cuisinart, which I’d been saving points for, but they didn’t have those available when I had enough points saved up - until a couple of days after I ordered the Lagasse oven - I should have waited), but I guess I just haven’t experimented enough. Doesn’t seem the cook time is all that much shorter than the oven. It does preheat much more quickly. Maybe if it wasn’t covered to save it from the cats, we’d use it more.
We did have problems with the built in oven last year, turns out it wasn’t a problem but the actual design for the oven I picked out. The temperature? Is an average of high and low. I bought a thermometer, just to watch this (one that has a wire that goes in the oven with the dial on the outside). Set for 350°, it would to up to 400°, then drop to below 350°.
How I found out was I had garlic toast on the top rack, five minutes a side and it burned. It shouldn’t have, the oven was on the proper setting. So, I got the thermometer. I set up a service call, the technician was here for an hour testing it and told me “that’s how it is with today’s ovens - you want a steady temperature, you need a higher end oven”.
Well, shit. That doesn’t seem right at all.
@lisaviolet Using the counter top oven in air fryer mode really cooks stuff quickly. Ours powers up on fan mode until manually turning the fan off. You will be shocked to see the difference of cooking times. Something normally would take 34-40 minutes in the oven will only take 10 minutes in the Emerald 360.
Tiny little oven from the 1940s or so with no pilot light and a little hole that you have to stick a match in. It works pretty great, and it heats the whole kitchen which would be nicer if I didn’t live in a warm climate.
Electric, which is good for ovens even though it’s awful for stoves. It’s not super old, but far from new, and it’s about to be replaced because there’s a hairline crack in the glass stovetop. I’ll miss it a little—it’s the most accurate oven I’ve ever had.
New(ish), not a budget model, but not really that cool either.
My oven stopped working in August. It’s old enough and shitty enough that no one is willing to repair it, so I just haven’t baked anything in 5 months.
When it comes to the oven this is my motto:
“oldies but goldies”
I have two now (technically three, but the anova is in the garage) and one is convection! It’s such a wonderful thing to have two ovens. I hope I never have to go back to just one. Maybe after the kids are grown, but even then. Just so convenient.
Gas cooktop/stovetop in the island with a double (electric) wall oven-- best of both worlds. Top oven is digital/touch button controlled and self cleaning. Bottom is controlled by a knob you twist. Both ovens still work fine, though it is getting hard to see the numbers on the LED readout on the top oven (light is getting dim).
But since it is now just the 2 of us, we generally use the Cuisinart countertop toaster/convection/air fryer oven for most things since it is WAY quicker to heat up, has convection, and doesn’t heat up the whole kitchen in the summertime. Big enough for a 12" pizza so plenty of space inside it for most items we cook.
@chienfou Sounds similar to our kitchen setup. On ours, the touch controls for the top oven are failing - they aren’t true “touch” controls but membrane-style momentary action push buttons. The button that raises the temp of the top oven doesn’t work any more, so it comes on initially at 350F and we can only lower it from there. No replacement parts are available. The old-school twist knobs for the bottom oven still work fine, so we use it if something needs higher cooking temp. Annoying, but still usable.
Kinda a mess because i tend to be lazy about cleaning and then put more into the pot than fits and… So the stovetop really needs a cleaning and so does the top rack but it’s a full stove and usually works and the self clean works fine. When the stupid piezo ignitor works. Whirpool… Cause it’s not on a wall with the control board right on top with no ventilation.
The wall electric convection oven on the other hand has never worked and they knew and did not disclose that when they sold the house. I’ve pulled it out of the wall/cabinet twice. Heavy bastard. It heats up but then cuts off. It’s not the temp sensor its the control board. I’m tempted to try and reflow the solder in the other oven. Self cleaning cycle in a wall oven could easily mess up a weak joint. But. I don’t need two ovens so meh.
Gas oven/stove. We’re on our third. Cheap contractor grade unit died at 6 years old (and was horrible to keep clean). Replacement Maytag had electronics failure and was too expensive to fix, so now we have a mid-range GE that is starting to have electronic fritzes.
Next home I would not mind a double oven like we grew up with, but with convection, and a separate stovetop that has at least one floret burner (for even heating on a large griddle pan or skillet). Gas preferred if we can get into a place with it before the eco-nazis force all electric, as I hear is happening in some places.