I’m confused. I have a phone that tells the time, and pretty much does what this does. If I put a metal band on it and wear it on my wrist…what could be smarter than that?
The 1st gen wasn’t very buggy in my opinion. Replaceability of the watch band was a weak spot on the first one, because the case design was slightly goofy. And the “flat tire” is a lot less pronounced on the 2nd gen.
Seems a decent deal, but I’m good on smartwatches. If you want a more interactive experience than the Martian watch, this is a good place to look. My comments here are based on the 1st gen, but should only be better on this version.
Highlights: turn by turn directions on your wrist. Voice control with usable tools–think quick calculations, the three day weather, timers and more. Health tracking (steps and heart rate). Cool faces you can change on demand.
Lowlights: you have to charge it every day, and it has to be charged on the wireless stand. This isn’t uncommon though, I think every smart watch requires something proprietary to charge. Many smartwatch apps are kind of lame.
@RedOak Next year, probably. This one will hit that price point when the 3rd Gen comes out, and it is supposed to work with ios already.
Keep an eye out before then, though. I scored the 1st gen for half price ($125 at the time) through an at&t employee deal. A guy I know let me buy through his eligibility.
@djslack Hadn’t thought about the AT&T employee angle for hardware discounts. Already get a 22% service discount through a contract that, ironically, I negotiated for our company. Will have to contact my friend in Florida…
Definitely kudos, because it’s a solid deal on a new current product. Sure, it’s not the kind of rock bottom pricing you get when Meh buys out all the existing stock of a discontinued product or gets a batch of refurbs. But it is a different kind of deal to change things up a bit, so thank you, Meh.
I get that it’s a deal. But why is there not one single solitary image of the actual product? Every single image is computer generated. I know Apple does the same thing, but at least theirs look real.
Seriously. Just take a photo of the thing. How bad could it look?
I rented this watch once and loved it. The optical HRM didn’t do what I needed it to, kept slipping out of place when working hard. Otherwise it was a very nifty toy, and the wide leather band was more comfortable than other fitness watches, but the price was too much for me to justify as a toy and fitness tracker, when there are other fitness trackers with stronger social platforms and lower cost.
@ethansight The new one (Pebble Time Round Two) or current gen? Because over the last 8 months, the PTR has been available at many places for as little as $125 (or was it $100?).
@rprussell my gear s2 gets almost daily wear while my 1st gen 360 is still packed from my move weeks ago. The speakerphone on the s2 is occasionally useful, and the 360 lacks one. I appreciate the tight integration between the s2 and samsung phone. I seem to actively use it less, though (like apps or doing anything besides seeing notifications and tracking activity). I haven’t bothered to learn the voice trigger for the s2, while I used “ok Google” quite a bit. The 360 has style points over my s2, but the s2 classic equals it imo. I was a bit put out when they gave the s2 classics out free with a phone purchase later, as one of the reasons I jumped on the Galaxy s7 preorder was that I thought the free watch deal wouldn’t last long.
Tl;dr it’s not better than the s2 classic, especially if you use a Samsung phone. It looks better than the regular s2, though.
The 2nd Gen Moto 360’s cousin, the Moto 360 Sport, comes with almost identical specs, in a chunkier rubber casing which is waterproof, unlike the regular 360.
@trisk Is that a integrated, non-replaceable strap? I avoid watches with integrated strap designs after getting stuck with a expensive dive computer (watch) that snagged on my tank as I was removing my gear. Broke the strap, and because of the integrated design, the strap can’t be replaced. So it’s now basically a paperweight.
@ruouttaurmind @trisk
Thx for link. I am the idiot who prefers the look of the sport watch to the dress watch. Yeah, for weddings and fancy parties also. But then I was always the one who gets that stuff wrong. Why stop now?
The band may be part of the waterproofing. Which means the band might have to be changed out by the manufacturer.
I own a battery Garmin sportwatch and several g-shocks. If the batteries died or other repairs were needed I’d have it done at a factory center - the only way to preserve the waterproof quality.
Those resin bands can wear out, but I like them. Tho I wear them loose, except for the Garmin 235 that has an excellent heart monitor.
List on this is $299. And this 2nd generation watch will get Android Wear 2.0 when it comes out in early 2017 whereas the 1st generation will not.
BTW I’ve had one for a year and love it. Best looking smart watch on the market. Maximally functional with an Android phone but still pretty functional even if you’re a fruit-phone person.
As Trisk said, if you can live with a nonremovable silicone band the Sport model is currently on sale for $120. If you need a watch you can wear in dressy circumstances or if you want one that has easily interchangeable bands this is the one to get.
@ellett Hey, so since you actually have one, I’m wondering if it’s usable WITHOUT a phone. The whole reason I want one is to leave my phone behind when I go to the gym. I just want it to play music, run an interval timer, and track reps. Is any of that possible without a phone?
@grovberg you can load music directly on the watch and connect bluetooth earbuds to it. It’ll do heart rate and stopwatch without a phone. I love my first gen, but the battery is wearing out. I’m tempted to grab this one.
I have the first gen of this watch, and it’s really nice!
… except the battery life has faded pretty badly, and the LCD developed blue spots on it. I had one watch replaced by Moto for the spots after 7 months but the second one has the same problem after another 7 and they refused warranty. Motorola pretty much lost me forever with the way they jerked me around, too.
I hate to tell you this, Meh, but I would really advise against folks getting one of these. There are newer options coming out for only about ten bucks more, any day now. (ZenWatch 3)
@TellarHK
The blue spots are probably from the battery expanding in the watch and pressing against the LCD. That goes well with your battery capacity diminishing.
@xamindar That makes perfect sense, maybe when I’ve got the money to replace it outright I’ll break out the tools and see if i can replace the battery with something nicer.
I wouldn’t pay this much for such a disposable watch. Give it a good year and then the battery would not get you through the day. Add the possibility of replacing the battery like any other standard watch and they will get my money!
@xamindar@f00l the original pebble promised up to 5 days, not 10. I owned one myself and enjoyed it aside from the buggy-ish pebble app, the thickness, the audibly loud vibration motor, and the silicone strap that broke after ~1.5 years of use.
That said, considering purchasing the pebble 2 se on sale at bestbuy during BF since I’ve been missing it.
if anyone finds one of these with a metal band in a future Fuko, and doesn’t really want it… I’ll take it! might even float a little currency your way… hit me up.
Specs
Heart rate sensor
GPU: Adreno 305 with 450MHz GPU
User manual
What’s in the Box?
1x Moto 360 Watch (2nd generation)
1x Charging dock
1x Wall charger
1x Extra links (metal bands only)
Pictures
Silver with leather
Silver with leather front view
Black with metal band
Black with metal band bottom view
Black with metal band side view
Black with metal band back view
Silver with metal band
Silver with metal band front view
Silver with metal band side view
Price Comparison
42mm Silver with metal band: $349.99 List, $299.99 at Amazon
42mm Silver with leather band: $510 at Amazon
46mm Black with metal band: $495.85 at Amazon
Find a relevant price comparison? Please share it in a comment in this thread
Warranty
1 Year Motorola
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Hello Moto…Nope!
Watch-oo talkin about, Willis?
Whoa . . .
/giphy watch yourself
That’s a lotta money, meh.
Is 360 minutes a binary or military thing or something? Or do you have to charge it every 360 minutes?
@MehnofLaMehncha It was the first round smart watch, so 360 degrees?
@djslack squares are 360 degrees too though![](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw== ":\")
@MehnofLaMehncha 360 describes a circle.
@Pantheist That’s 4x90 to us squares.
/giphy I’m another person who thinks this is too much money
Meh, not this time…
this looks like normal price… anyone has any experience with this watch? and or whats your favorite smart watch?
@brainfog1… $224 is a normal price? When it is selling for $500 on Amazon?
/giphy not normal
A gift for smart people – it’s about time!
I’ll stick with Timex.
I’m not paying more for a watch than my phone.
@trisk How much did your phone pay for a watch?
I’m confused. I have a phone that tells the time, and pretty much does what this does. If I put a metal band on it and wear it on my wrist…what could be smarter than that?
@eeterrific
Go forth. Get that gigantipixel phone onto your wrist. Be thou:
“The geekiest one”.
@f00l
I sure ain’t buying no watch that’s maybe smarter than I is…
@daveinwarsh Maybe? That’s a stretch, eh, bro?
Bathtub
Perhaps there is a typo and the decimal point is too far to the right?
Wow, so many words in the listing AND the write-up. Don’t you realize it’s Saturday?
My wife just bought me the Hauwdflhasdlufh watch and I love it.
The 1st gen wasn’t very buggy in my opinion. Replaceability of the watch band was a weak spot on the first one, because the case design was slightly goofy. And the “flat tire” is a lot less pronounced on the 2nd gen.
Seems a decent deal, but I’m good on smartwatches. If you want a more interactive experience than the Martian watch, this is a good place to look. My comments here are based on the 1st gen, but should only be better on this version.
Highlights: turn by turn directions on your wrist. Voice control with usable tools–think quick calculations, the three day weather, timers and more. Health tracking (steps and heart rate). Cool faces you can change on demand.
Lowlights: you have to charge it every day, and it has to be charged on the wireless stand. This isn’t uncommon though, I think every smart watch requires something proprietary to charge. Many smartwatch apps are kind of lame.
@djslack thank you for this
@djslack Yep. Thanks for that. Now all this needs to come to a non-cheap looking/feeling $100 smart watch.
And do it for iOS.
Should be doable, eventually.
@RedOak Next year, probably. This one will hit that price point when the 3rd Gen comes out, and it is supposed to work with ios already.
Keep an eye out before then, though. I scored the 1st gen for half price ($125 at the time) through an at&t employee deal. A guy I know let me buy through his eligibility.
@djslack Hadn’t thought about the AT&T employee angle for hardware discounts. Already get a 22% service discount through a contract that, ironically, I negotiated for our company. Will have to contact my friend in Florida…
I won’t be dropping the coin - but kudos for having this available.
Definitely kudos, because it’s a solid deal on a new current product. Sure, it’s not the kind of rock bottom pricing you get when Meh buys out all the existing stock of a discontinued product or gets a batch of refurbs. But it is a different kind of deal to change things up a bit, so thank you, Meh.
I get that it’s a deal. But why is there not one single solitary image of the actual product? Every single image is computer generated. I know Apple does the same thing, but at least theirs look real.
Seriously. Just take a photo of the thing. How bad could it look?
@daveJay Yes! I think meh dropped the ball by not making it clear that we are not looking at photos, but computer renderings.
Pffft! I can get one free when I sign a lifetime contact with my cell provider.
@PocketBrain Like you’re going to quit using a cell phone. It’s already a lifetime contract. You’re in denial.
@mike808 the alpaca wool! I agree. Fermentation is a sin.
Too much doll hairs.
I rented this watch once and loved it. The optical HRM didn’t do what I needed it to, kept slipping out of place when working hard. Otherwise it was a very nifty toy, and the wide leather band was more comfortable than other fitness watches, but the price was too much for me to justify as a toy and fitness tracker, when there are other fitness trackers with stronger social platforms and lower cost.
Reviews I did of that rental experience, comparing several devices:. http://my-health-experiment.blogspot.com/2016/03/hrmactivity-monitor-testing.html?m=1
Personally just waiting for the pebble round.
@ethansight The new one (Pebble Time Round Two) or current gen? Because over the last 8 months, the PTR has been available at many places for as little as $125 (or was it $100?).
I would totally buy one of these if it was demonstrably better than the Samsung S2.
GO!
@rprussell my gear s2 gets almost daily wear while my 1st gen 360 is still packed from my move weeks ago. The speakerphone on the s2 is occasionally useful, and the 360 lacks one. I appreciate the tight integration between the s2 and samsung phone. I seem to actively use it less, though (like apps or doing anything besides seeing notifications and tracking activity). I haven’t bothered to learn the voice trigger for the s2, while I used “ok Google” quite a bit. The 360 has style points over my s2, but the s2 classic equals it imo. I was a bit put out when they gave the s2 classics out free with a phone purchase later, as one of the reasons I jumped on the Galaxy s7 preorder was that I thought the free watch deal wouldn’t last long.
Tl;dr it’s not better than the s2 classic, especially if you use a Samsung phone. It looks better than the regular s2, though.
Would buy, but broke tight now. Nice pickup for meh, though. I hope these come around again, cheaper, when the 3rd gen is out.
@njd that is nearly exactly what I came here to say,
The 2nd Gen Moto 360’s cousin, the Moto 360 Sport, comes with almost identical specs, in a chunkier rubber casing which is waterproof, unlike the regular 360.
It’s $120 right now, new.
@trisk and the plastic band is the main reason I’d never buy it. Something in my skin eats plastic/rubber watch bands.
Leather and fabric get to sweaty, I have to have a metal band…
@trisk Is that a integrated, non-replaceable strap? I avoid watches with integrated strap designs after getting stuck with a expensive dive computer (watch) that snagged on my tank as I was removing my gear. Broke the strap, and because of the integrated design, the strap can’t be replaced. So it’s now basically a paperweight.
@ruouttaurmind
@trisk
Thx for link. I am the idiot who prefers the look of the sport watch to the dress watch. Yeah, for weddings and fancy parties also. But then I was always the one who gets that stuff wrong. Why stop now?
The band may be part of the waterproofing. Which means the band might have to be changed out by the manufacturer.
I own a battery Garmin sportwatch and several g-shocks. If the batteries died or other repairs were needed I’d have it done at a factory center - the only way to preserve the waterproof quality.
Those resin bands can wear out, but I like them. Tho I wear them loose, except for the Garmin 235 that has an excellent heart monitor.
List on this is $299. And this 2nd generation watch will get Android Wear 2.0 when it comes out in early 2017 whereas the 1st generation will not.
BTW I’ve had one for a year and love it. Best looking smart watch on the market. Maximally functional with an Android phone but still pretty functional even if you’re a fruit-phone person.
As Trisk said, if you can live with a nonremovable silicone band the Sport model is currently on sale for $120. If you need a watch you can wear in dressy circumstances or if you want one that has easily interchangeable bands this is the one to get.
@ellett Hey, so since you actually have one, I’m wondering if it’s usable WITHOUT a phone. The whole reason I want one is to leave my phone behind when I go to the gym. I just want it to play music, run an interval timer, and track reps. Is any of that possible without a phone?
@grovberg you can load music directly on the watch and connect bluetooth earbuds to it. It’ll do heart rate and stopwatch without a phone. I love my first gen, but the battery is wearing out. I’m tempted to grab this one.
This is woot pricing, WTF, next thing you know, Amazon will buy you. I’m going to MEHsturbate on this one.
@gak0090 you mehsturbate a lot!
@robson I do. MEHsturbating is a healthy release of tension. As a matter of fact, I’m currently MEHsturbating right now. Wait, I’m about to cliMEHx!
I have the first gen of this watch, and it’s really nice!
… except the battery life has faded pretty badly, and the LCD developed blue spots on it. I had one watch replaced by Moto for the spots after 7 months but the second one has the same problem after another 7 and they refused warranty. Motorola pretty much lost me forever with the way they jerked me around, too.
I hate to tell you this, Meh, but I would really advise against folks getting one of these.
There are newer options coming out for only about ten bucks more, any day now. (ZenWatch 3)
@TellarHK
The blue spots are probably from the battery expanding in the watch and pressing against the LCD. That goes well with your battery capacity diminishing.
@xamindar That makes perfect sense, maybe when I’ve got the money to replace it outright I’ll break out the tools and see if i can replace the battery with something nicer.
i know pretty much what time it is… without a watch… a $200.00 watch… damn thing, better give me time travel…lol
Smart watch this, smart watch that.
When are we finally getting wrist knives??
/giphy wrist knife
@El_Oel life is not that bad is it? Please get help.
@El_Oel
You got something against wrist speaker-docs?
@RedOak It’s meh.
@f00l Only my wrist.
@El_Oel this should be safe enough.
Windows phone and love it.
But after reading the descriptions, I still have no idea what they do. Kind of like politicians.
Good grief. The circuit breaker kicked in after only 32 were sold. Meh must not be taking much of a risk with this if they bought that few.
@Kidsandliz Would you?
@RedOak I have no idea. Not my problem. Not my business. : )
$250 at Frys. http://www.frys.com/product/8708891?source=google&gclid=CKqlkPeJtdACFdcWgQodAcAF8Q
Skipping this time, I can wait with my current 1st gen. Crossing my fingers the Huawei watch will show up here soon.
@trixter313 Huawei… thinking twice about made and designed in China. Phone home every 72 hours firmware. And now Moto is Lenovo.
@trixter313
I really like my Huawei watch.
@PlacidPenguin @trixter313 I see a Huawei watch at Newegg today as a shellshocker deal.
@sligett Darn, I guess I missed it. There’s a power bank there now.
I also forgot that I wanted to wait until Q1 2017 is over to see whether the rumors of a Google Pixel watch are real or not.
@trixter313 My fault - I sent you to the general Shell Shocker page. Here’s the specific page for that one deal.
Good luck with your waiting for a Googley watch.
I wouldn’t pay this much for such a disposable watch. Give it a good year and then the battery would not get you through the day. Add the possibility of replacing the battery like any other standard watch and they will get my money!
@xamindar
My original red pebble is doing fine. What, 2-3 years old now? battery is good for more than 3 days before it bitches to get charged.
@f00l
I thought the original pebble is supposed to last around 10 days, why is yours only lasting 3?
@xamindar @f00l the original pebble promised up to 5 days, not 10. I owned one myself and enjoyed it aside from the buggy-ish pebble app, the thickness, the audibly loud vibration motor, and the silicone strap that broke after ~1.5 years of use.
That said, considering purchasing the pebble 2 se on sale at bestbuy during BF since I’ve been missing it.
Scoff all you want at the model numbers, Meh, but a Google image search for “NARTL” brings up more Moto 360s than I knew existed.
And NARTL actually sounds useful. “NARTL, dammit!”
I think that’s a smart looking watch.
if anyone finds one of these with a metal band in a future Fuko, and doesn’t really want it… I’ll take it! might even float a little currency your way… hit me up.