@rockblossom The AI was also having problems with the idea that a mob of cats wasn’t a 1000-cat-sized single somewhat amorphous animaloid. Weta has better software than that.
@macromeh Entirely your own fault. The cats were trying to tell you if you had left the door open, they could have gotten your attention by more conventional means than complaining outside a closed door.
@Kyeh Ah, but his Vanceness only gives them a pass if they are straight white men. He included Pete Buttigieg with the CCLs for derision. As a certified Childless Old Cat (and dog) Lady, I like being in the same group with Pete, Elon Musk’s estranged daughter Vivian, and Rep. Alexandria O-C. (I’m considering a “Childless Old Cat Ladies Do Vote” shirt for the win.)
And I have a stable full of cats. Well, house. 6 and counting (although a stray showed up at our house pregnant once and promptly gave birth to kittens, so we briefly had 10 felines in our house. kittens all got rehomed, and the mama we neutered and kept… she’s one of the current 6).
Anyhow, I object to only the childless being called cat herders… and the women. As a man with kids, I demand equal respect as a cat herder. I deserve the label of being a crazy cat man!
As a man with kids, I demand equal respect as a cat herder.
There are times I do wish I was a childless lady with cats. Got the cats, am a lady, but DHS would take a dim view on giving away the kid. Oh wait she is grown. Maybe all I have to do is lock the door?
@Cerridwyn@unksol I feed the Kirkland to ours once in a while, but they like the 4Health kibble from Tractor Supply even better. It’s a bit on the pricey side if you’re going through that much; we’re only feeding 10 adults and two kittens at the moment.
@Cerridwyn@werehatrack well 20 adults. Ish. Mostly 2-3:years. I’m hoping they calm down but I found out a few weeks ago Snickers was making a massive leap, scrambling up a wall, getting in the wiring then getting back… I think I’ve deleted her tactic. But. They def have energy
I had not thought of checking tractor supply for store brand kibble. Their litter was very dusty, Walmart is better there.
They still just. Pee on things sometimes so. Whatever lol
Interestingly the random tractor supply person who showed up while I was looking did mention it was made by diamonds but the diamond vs 4health was $2 cheaper for an 18lb bag of diamonds. Obviously though ingredients can vary. And tractor supply has the $25 lb of 4 health
Kirkland rates “higher” according to them. But standards are relative.
I don’t know how I would even tell if a cat turned up their nose cause they’d eat it eventually. Can’t exactly tell short of obvious distress at this scale.
Read an article that was talking about how AI image generators are in danger… Of themselves.
Now there is so much AI content online, AI generators that scrape the web for pictures are scraping other AI images…
So all these six fingered three legged characters from early AI imagine generation are being hoovered up by AI generators ready for the next generation of AI image generation.
Of course the moral here is, make sure your input data is clean.
@Kyeh@OnionSoup Until they can program machine learning that’s smart enough to look at the input and correctly identify factually erroneous data, they’ll keep getting garbage output. This is one of the many areas in which their algorithms all fail, as has been demonstrated over and over. The big issue is that these massive efforts are still several orders of magnitude short of actual intelligence. All they’ve done so far is make limited pseudocleverness. Sadly, that will often do the job well enough to be what somebody wants. It’s chabuduo taken right past all the safety barriers and given the keys to the machinery.
@Kyeh@OnionSoup@werehatrack This bar also applies to humans. Sometimes the standards for “competency” are just limited to being adept at a single task, but then the trick is to find out where in an assembly line such task would belong. (And heaven help you if you try to square-peg-into-a-round-hole them somewhere else.)
“AI” is such… Horse shit. I like penny arcades take on stuff. So far it’s mostly ripping off art and language and it’s epic level theft for profit and that’s not ok.
When they start trying to apply it to software engineering without people in the loop… Eh
But hey if they can get rid of all the workforce and keep all the money. Lol. Good enough for the tech lords. We don’t need the workers till we do
The “herding cats” video: Two dogs trying to herd the cats are eaten by the feline mob. Fitting, because everyone knows you can’t herd cats.
@rockblossom The AI was also having problems with the idea that a mob of cats wasn’t a 1000-cat-sized single somewhat amorphous animaloid. Weta has better software than that.
@rockblossom I have this mug:
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Also:
@narfcake @rockblossom That video is a keeper.
@rockblossom Not true. I herd my two cats meowing outside the bedroom door, wanting to be fed, at 6:00 this morning.
@macromeh Entirely your own fault. The cats were trying to tell you if you had left the door open, they could have gotten your attention by more conventional means than complaining outside a closed door.
@macromeh @rockblossom
@macromeh @narfcake @rockblossom I think I have played that game
@narfcake @rockblossom good. I was going to post that EDS commercial although why they were advertising… But I knew someone must have.
Being the tech lead is always fun. Although I prefer to leave the herding work to the PMs. And just course correct
The new Garfield movie is looking good
You can only herd cats if you are a childless cat lady
@Cerridwyn I know of at least three examples of exceptions to that.
@werehatrack well as long as they don’t vote for the strumpet they can bbe the exception that proves the rules
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack I want to hear about the childless men - how come they get a pass? (Of course I know why, just wanted to point it out.)
@Kyeh Ah, but his Vanceness only gives them a pass if they are straight white men. He included Pete Buttigieg with the CCLs for derision. As a certified Childless Old Cat (and dog) Lady, I like being in the same group with Pete, Elon Musk’s estranged daughter Vivian, and Rep. Alexandria O-C. (I’m considering a “Childless Old Cat Ladies Do Vote” shirt for the win.)
@rockblossom Too bad Mediocritee isn’t around anymore!
@Cerridwyn @Kyeh @werehatrack I’m a man! With Children!
And I have a stable full of cats. Well, house. 6 and counting (although a stray showed up at our house pregnant once and promptly gave birth to kittens, so we briefly had 10 felines in our house. kittens all got rehomed, and the mama we neutered and kept… she’s one of the current 6).
Anyhow, I object to only the childless being called cat herders… and the women. As a man with kids, I demand equal respect as a cat herder. I deserve the label of being a crazy cat man!
@Cerridwyn @OnionSoup @werehatrack
Status granted.
@Cerridwyn I think we should also recognize @unksol as a crazy cat guy.
@Cerridwyn @unksol @werehatrack
Oh, yes.
@Kyeh @unksol @werehatrack but would Vance recognize him
@Cerridwyn @unksol @werehatrack Who knows what goes on in Vance’s mind.![:woman_shrugging_tone1:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f937-1f3fb-2640.png)
@Kyeh @unksol @werehatrack who really wants to?
@Kyeh @unksol @werehatrack and for your viewing pleasure
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@Cerridwyn @unksol @werehatrack OH, that’s wonderful! Is it on a shirt?
@Kyeh @unksol @werehatrack I am sorry I don’t know. A friend sent me the image a little bit ago when I had to share
@Cerridwyn @unksol @werehatrack Nice. I’m passing it along, hope that’s okay!
@Kyeh @unksol @werehatrack ofc
@Cerridwyn @unksol @werehatrack
Dolphin porn, evidently!![:flushed:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f633.png)
![:zany_face:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f92a.png)
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@Cerridwyn @Kyeh @OnionSoup @werehatrack
There are times I do wish I was a childless lady with cats. Got the cats, am a lady, but DHS would take a dim view on giving away the kid. Oh wait she is grown. Maybe all I have to do is lock the door?![:laughing:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f606.png)
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack apparently I wasn’t paying attention. I don’t so much herd as feed/manage/cleanup.
I could use some kids to help. 10? Pfft.
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack also I guess as an aside what are you all feeding the herds? I’ve pegged them last month at 5 15lb bags of Purina cat chow.
The costco Kirkland stuff seems like better quality and only a little more expensive. I don’t even have a costco membership but it seems better.
https://www.costco.com/cat-food-comparison-chart.html
@Cerridwyn @unksol I feed the Kirkland to ours once in a while, but they like the 4Health kibble from Tractor Supply even better. It’s a bit on the pricey side if you’re going through that much; we’re only feeding 10 adults and two kittens at the moment.
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack well 20 adults. Ish. Mostly 2-3:years. I’m hoping they calm down but I found out a few weeks ago Snickers was making a massive leap, scrambling up a wall, getting in the wiring then getting back… I think I’ve deleted her tactic. But. They def have energy
I had not thought of checking tractor supply for store brand kibble. Their litter was very dusty, Walmart is better there.
They still just. Pee on things sometimes so. Whatever lol
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack
Is this it
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/4health-all-life-stages-dry-cat-food-25-lb-bag-1531651
I like that chicken is the first ingredient but didn’t dig through the whole label yet.
5@15lbs x $19 Purina at Walmart/other stores
Vs
3@25lbs x $42
A whole extra ~$27 a month. I think that’s fine.
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack
There could obviously be bias here
https://cats.com/best-dry-cat-food
https://cats.com/4health-cat-food-review
Interestingly the random tractor supply person who showed up while I was looking did mention it was made by diamonds but the diamond vs 4health was $2 cheaper for an 18lb bag of diamonds. Obviously though ingredients can vary. And tractor supply has the $25 lb of 4 health
https://cats.com/kirkland-cat-food-review
Kirkland rates “higher” according to them. But standards are relative.
I don’t know how I would even tell if a cat turned up their nose cause they’d eat it eventually. Can’t exactly tell short of obvious distress at this scale.
@Cerridwyn @werehatrack and then there’s Purina lol
https://cats.com/purina-cat-chow-review
Was better than the 9 lives.
The low ash purina urinera track stuff was used cause kitkat got blocked. And compared to the science diet stuff was about the same.
Read an article that was talking about how AI image generators are in danger… Of themselves.
Now there is so much AI content online, AI generators that scrape the web for pictures are scraping other AI images…
So all these six fingered three legged characters from early AI imagine generation are being hoovered up by AI generators ready for the next generation of AI image generation.
Of course the moral here is, make sure your input data is clean.
@OnionSoup I love it. Totally serves it right.
@Kyeh @OnionSoup Until they can program machine learning that’s smart enough to look at the input and correctly identify factually erroneous data, they’ll keep getting garbage output. This is one of the many areas in which their algorithms all fail, as has been demonstrated over and over. The big issue is that these massive efforts are still several orders of magnitude short of actual intelligence. All they’ve done so far is make limited pseudocleverness. Sadly, that will often do the job well enough to be what somebody wants. It’s chabuduo taken right past all the safety barriers and given the keys to the machinery.
@Kyeh @OnionSoup @werehatrack This bar also applies to humans. Sometimes the standards for “competency” are just limited to being adept at a single task, but then the trick is to find out where in an assembly line such task would belong. (And heaven help you if you try to square-peg-into-a-round-hole them somewhere else.)
@Kyeh @OnionSoup @werehatrack
“AI” is such… Horse shit. I like penny arcades take on stuff. So far it’s mostly ripping off art and language and it’s epic level theft for profit and that’s not ok.
When they start trying to apply it to software engineering without people in the loop… Eh
But hey if they can get rid of all the workforce and keep all the money. Lol. Good enough for the tech lords. We don’t need the workers till we do