720p - Model: XTC260VP - Resolution: 1280 x 720 @ 30fps (13min per GB) / 640 x 480 @ 60fps (20min per GB) - Viewing angle: 140 degrees - Simple one-switch operation - Multi-coated tempered glass lens - Rapid-charge Li-Ion 900 mAH rechargeable battery - Battery life: Up to 3 hours - Storage: Micro SD card up to 32GB (not included) - Dimensions: 1.66" x 3.35" x 1.19" - Aspect ratio: HD 16x9, SD 4:3 - Format: MPEG-4(mp4), AAC - Compression: H.264 - Submersible up to 90 ft - Full manufacturer specs
1080p - Model: XTC280VP - Resolution: 1920 x 1080p (30fps) / 1280 x 720p (60fps) - Viewing angle: 118 degrees - Simple one-switch operation - Multi-coated tempered glass lens - Rapid-charge Li-Ion 900 mAH rechargeable battery - Battery life: Up to 3 hours - Storage: Micro SD card up to 64GB (not included) - Dimensions: 3" x 1.5" x 1.8" - Aspect ratio: 16x9 - Format: MPEG-4(mp4), AAC - Compression: H.264 - Submersible up to 200 ft - Full manufacturer specs
Condition: Refurbished Warranty: 90 Day Midland Estimated Delivery: 4/22 - 4/27 Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What's in the Box?
720p 1x 720p camera 1x Waterproof case 1x Helmet strap 1x 3M sticking mount with spare sticky pads 1x Bicycle handlebar mount 1x Goggle mount 1x Battery 1x USB to Mini USB charging cable 2x Disconnectable lanyards
1080p 1x 1080p camera 1x Waterproof case 1x 3M sticking mount 1x Battery 1x USB to Mini USB charging cable 2x Disconnectable lanyards
@brhfl Yes. Midland Radio Corporation Midland Radio Corporation is an international industry leader in wireless communications with affiliates in Italy, Bulgaria, Germany, Poland, Russia, Spain, the United Kingdom, and Latin America. Known in the 1970s primarily for CB radios and household electronics, Midland has grown with the times by producing innovative new communications products and by actively promoting public emergency preparedness. Midland develops high quality consumer products such as XTC Wearable Video Cameras, GMRS Two-Way Radios, Citizen Band (CB) Radios, Marine Radios, Bluetooth Intercom systems, and All Hazards/Weather Alert Radios. Also, as a leading manufacturer of Land Mobile Radios, Midland supplies professional grade analog and digital (P25 Technology) Portables, Mobiles, and Base Stations/Repeaters for government entities such as forestry, public safety, and other commercial users.
@cengland0 The 1080p comes with the "universal" mount sticky pads so you can stick it anywhere. Most likely a helmet. So, you lose a strap but gain a sticky pad. Your call. Again, it's cheap, who cares if it breaks.
@Collin1000 well i just noticed the amazon ones are new and these are refurb...so im out. It was a hard decision though because i need a underwater camera to shoot videos for work and a cheap one i could lose to muskies
It's tiny. It shoots in 1080p. And it's cheap. Sounds tempting but do I have the funding for an epic sci fi, buddy comedy, romantic, thriller, drama, how to, pot boiler, film noir, detective, superhero, comic book, based on a true story but highly fictionalized so it doesn't resemble the actual events action trilogy?
@jaybird It's like 13 min/gb on the 260 model, and 11 min./gb on the 280 model. I was just reading the user's manual and it doesn't support inversion mode or overwrite mode, so not that ideal for a dash cam.
frugal-adventurous-bit I put one of each in my cart but had a problem with my cc so I re-entered info and then said the 1080 was not available... Meh.... so I bought two 720's...one to give to nephew turning 16 and one for hubby for Dads day to strap on the wakeboard and ski this summer. Better yet, put on the kids tubing and watch the epic wipe-outs... Never had one before so I figure I can't go wrong for first one for the $$! Thanks, Meh! Oh, just in case you find an extra 1080 in the warehouse, please add to my acct and send to me...
@Opemiyaku Agreed, I also didn't need one, but I was in the middle of e-filing my tax refund and figured for $20 it was worth playing with. I just need to figure out how to mount it to the dog and let the fun begin!
@RedHot That makes much more sense. I think the nearly 3 weeks of not sleeping due to newborn is starting to catch up with me. Even the simplest of things confuse me now. On the plus side, I'm typically awake early enough to buy the things that normally would be sold out at my normal wake up time.
On the bright side, I just found another use for one of my neoprine sleeves!
And if anyone has buyers remorse on the 1080 camera, I will happily take it off your hands (plus shipping, of course)... If not, I will happily film my water sports in sub-par 720.... Hey, if I strap both 720's on at the same time will I get 1440?
I'm way more excited about this than I should be. Do you think it would freak people out if I started wearing it on my head all the time? You know, because my life is so interesting it needs to be documented.
@TerriblyHuang I'm normally MDT but I'm in Vienna this week. Sleep addled and not sure what time it was back home, I stumbled on this moments after it went up, through sheer luck. Bought one for the kiddo, his birthday is coming up soon. Lets see how long this lasts in the hands of a 6 year old.
I have a GoPro with another $500-$600 in accessories for SCUBA diving. $30 for 200ft depth??? In for 1 even though I really don't need it. Maybe I can strap it to my GoPro pole and film the GoPro filming me?
I was upset with the beats audio earbuds boner you pulled a couple of days ago but now you have totally redeemed yourselves! Bravo! Bravo! Bought three 1080p models before they sold out in the 1st half-hour. May God bless your pointy little heads!
@cengland0 Same. Meh-ntioned it to support, I think. Will wait to hear back. I also totally forgot I needed to order a card for this too--I thought I had a pile of those laying around somewhere but I guess not.
@Konraden I think I'll contact support too but I think this may be a big issue where nobody received it. The box it came in was a generic brown box with bubblewrap. No instructions either. Came with a sticker that had a URL where to download the instructions.
I knew when I bought this that it wold be refurbished but this is a crazy way to receive a refurbished unit.
@cengland0 The manual is only 8 pages long since it's a very simple camera to operate. That said, mine came today, but I ordered the 720dpi version. It came in the same brown box (labeled "Midland Radio Corp" and "Factory Reconditioned") and bubble wrap, but mine seems to have all of the mounts that were shown, including the extra lanyard. (It's not really a lanyard, but a safety cord should the camera detatch from the mount while skydiving, which I won't be doing...ever!) Still, you should have received one along with the standard sticky-mount with extra pads. :-(
@Kerig3 I understand the manual is only 8 pages but the description said it would come with a printed manual. Instead, it came with a sticker with the website of the manufacturer and you have to download the manual. That's different from a printed manual. That means there were three mistakes in the description or in the packing of my box: 1. No manual 2. No 3M Stickable Mount 3. Only 1 Lanyard instead of 2 included.
@cengland0 I'm not trying to minimize the mistakes to your order, I was just saying that there isn't much to the manual and a download (to print) is an easy solution. Still, they need to send you a mount and lanyard at the very least. On the other hand these were really, really, really inexpensive! A great way to play with an action cam without feeling bad that you shelled out a ton of money when it sits in a drawer for months on end, like mine will probably do.
@Kerig3 But deep down, I really didn't care too much about the camera. I have a Sony HDR-AS100VR that is a better camera and I was buying this for the cheap mount for my existing camera and a disposable camera that I could use in the racquetball court. One hit and it's probably gone.
Anyway, I asked others in this forum to see if mine was an isolated case or if others experienced the same problem. If I was the only person, then I would just forget about it; however, others have said they didn't get it either so now that's a big issue. I think Meh needs to figure out what went wrong and fix it.
@thismyusername Yes it does! I bought the 720dpi model myself. But the 'mount' that was supposed to come with the 1080dpi model is not a 1/4" screw mount (it's a propriotary track-system mount). If you read cengland0's posting previous to mine you'll see that he was actually hoping for the mount that he did not receive so that he could use it with other (non-Midland) action cams. This is why I mentioned that said missing-mount did not have a 1/4" connection. The discussion was about the mount, not the waterproof case. Does this make sense now? :-)
@Stumpy91 Yes it does, but the mount in question (the one that was supposed to come with the 1080 cam) is the sticky-pad mount that does not have the 1/4" standard camera screw. Am I wrong? If so I stand corrected. :-\
@thismyusername No prob. I was just trying to calm nerves over the weekend for those that were missing parts as I'm sure Meh will make things right eventually. I don't work for Meh, so I'll let MEH handle the pitchforked hordes in the future! LOL ;-)
@thismyusername No, the yellow switch on the case does not physically move the switch on the camera. I noticed the the yellow switch on the case has a small rectangular magnet under it, so this must be what triggers the camera when it's in the case. I have the camera turned OFF before putting it into the case and once sealed I then move the yellow switch UP the camera turns on and is ready to record. But I am still waiting for my memory card to be shipped, so I can't verify that it's working. BTW, you can get cheap (non-OEM) replacement batteries on Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F0HR4GG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@Kerig3 thanks much... guess we found out why mine was returned ;) I can see the magnet, but it never triggers record for me (1080p unit)... I did sorta get it to work but it involved keeping the camera switch in the middle (on but not locked) and not closing the case... which sorta defeats the purpose of the case! hehe Oh and looking at that picture I now understand what you mean about the slide on mount.
Just an FYI - I thought I read somewhere that these cameras wouldn't record when plugged in. That appears to be true when plugged into a computer's USB as the record switch is used to handshake with the PC, however when plugged into a 5V/750ma USB charger, it recorded both audio and video even with the battery removed. The audio picked up a low level feedback tone but video seemed fine. Might be helpful to those who wanted to dash mount. I think these were a steal. (Tested on the 260 / 720P model)
Anyone know how the case works? I turn it on and put it in, it turns it off, I turn if off and put it in it stays off (move case switch)... looked at the manual... nothing... looked for a manual for the case... nothing... help?
@matthew guess mine dont work? Do you turn the camera on before inserting? IF so mine just switches off when I put it in the case (it physically moves the switch to off). I decided it might not turn the leds on in the case... tested, no video so guess that is not it.
Yeah, it seems like loading the camera into the case can move the switch (maybe depending on the position of both switches when you insert the camera), as it passes under the magnet on the way in. I don't have mine in front of me now to check this, but I think you could either manipulate the case switch to get it synched with the camera switch after you load the camera, or make sure the case switch is in the forward/on position when you insert the already-turned-on camera.
@matthew thanks when you get around it or anyone with one... does it phsyically move the switch on the camera when you move it on the case? I must have the wrong case as the case is physically switching the camera off? I have tried several positions no luck. Thanks for the info!
For any wondering, it just appears that either the magnetic switch in the camera is not where it should be (perhaps it slipped out of position?) or my case is wrong (perhaps not letting it seat properly?) or even perhaps the magnet in the case is under spec? Will update when I get a magnet and mess around with it.
@densa nope... it will never trigger ever when its in the case properly... if i leave the case open and have the cam sticking out slightly AND the switch past the off lock position it will let the case start recording... something is wrong for sure... now im not sure if its worth the effort of shipping it to midland or just using it without a case?
@thismyusername Try to put a magnet over the camera where the switch should be in the "on" position. It should turn on. If it doesn't, then your camera is defective. If it does, then your case is defective (bad magnet?)
@thismyusername Alright. I figured out what you're doing. Leave the camera in the "off" position. Slide the camera into the case (in the "off" position) then on the top of the waterproof case is a switch. Turn that "on" and it should start recording.
@densa nope, camera off, case off, slide camera in, lock case, slide case switch on, nothing. Thanks for the try however! (Now if i switch the camera on then slide if off without locking the camera into the off position and then put the camera in the case wtih about a 1/4 inch sticking out the back of the case I can cause it to turn on and off... but well it's sticking out of the case ;)
@eyewerks Received this response from meh customer service regarding the missing mount. Not sure I care for it much. - "I know we don’t have any parts left to send, if you reach out to Midland at https://midlandusa.com/midland/about/contact-us/ they’ll send you those missing parts no problem!
When you talk to them make sure you mention those parts were supposed to be included as our product specs says and let them know you purchased from A Mediocre Corporation.
If you need a proof of purchase you can use a screenshot of the My Orders page. Let us know how it goes."
@eyewerks This is very common. Haven't you bought things with a piece of paper that says: If missing a piece do not return to the store, contact the company at XXXXX. Meh most likely did not pack them, but simply resold. Contacting the company is the quickest solution, also they are the ones that screwed up. They are the ones that have the inventory.
@MrMark Yes, I have. And that piece of paper doesn't absolve the merchant from responsibility. In fact, the manufacturers often want customers to contact them directly so that merchants don't get aggregated with the grief caused by the manufacturer and drop carrying their products
Got a reply from midland: "Thank you for contacting Midland Radio. The refurbished camera does not come with the universal mount. That is only included with the camera when you purchase a new camera not refurbished. Veronica Contreras Customer Service Midland Radio Corporation 5900 Parretta Dr. Kansas City, MO 64120 816-241-8500 office 816-241-5713 e: vcontreras@midlandradiocom w: www.midlandusa.com"
@einrad At least you got a response. I'm still waiting for my reply and I sent it within an hour of receiving instructions from meh customer service to contact them directly. No hope Midland will come through with the mount.
@JonT I understand and I'm not complaining about the great customer service I'm receiving from Meh. I'm just surprised I haven't heard back from Midland at all. At least I got a response from you guys. Thanks.
Hey guys, wanted to take a second to let you know whats going on with these.
When we purchased these we were told that all of the accessories (mounts, sticky pads, etc.) would be included in the box. As it turns out some of the packages were missing items, which we were unaware of when we sold them.
Typically in these cases we will gladly get you a replacement or take the spare parts out of a package to send you. However, for this particular sale we are 100% out of stock so we have nothing we can send you. Unless you want us to tie some strings together to make our version of a mount.
We are working with the vendor to see if we can get some replacement parts for you but the quickest route to take at this point is to have you contact Midland directly to get these. Doing so simply removes the middle man (in this case: us) from the picture.
We are happy to help in any way we can if Midland gives you any push back and will do our best to get some replacements in house ASAP for those that aren't able to work directly with Midland for a resolution. Thus far they have been very responsive and are fully willing to work with our customers to have this situation corrected.
@MEHcus Thanks for the update. I sent a message to Midland USA. We'll see how responsive they are. I'm glad I also bought the 720p version that had all of it's mounts. I'd be more pissed if I had only purchased the 1080p version that was missing the mount like many people here have stated.
Don't hold your breath for Midland. I just called them and spoke to Veronica. She checked with her manager (Andrea) who told her that her understanding is that the refurbished models do not come with the universal mount. I explained to her that the 720P came with the mount and read her what @MEHcus informed us.
There must be some miscommunication problems at Midland. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing.
I asked to speak to her manager (Andrea) and they put me on hold and after a couple minutes disconnected me. All I can say is, "meh..."
@densa Thanks for letting us know. We are getting in touch with them now to see to it that this doesn't happen again. In the meantime, shoot us a message at meh.com/support and we'll get you taken care of once we get some replacement parts in.
@MEHcus What about those of us who already contacted meh.com/support and then got an "I'm sorry we can't help you and to contact Midland" message? Do you want us to contact support a second time or will we automatically be included if we previously contacted them?
I received a 1080p camera and a USB cable. Nothing else! I emailed meh through their website. I haven't received any response. If nothing else, I will contest the charges and be done with meh! Seems like another meh screw-up!!!
I have to say we are loving this silly thing. I went and ordered the accessories that someone posted above and am glad I did since the sticky mount wasn't in the box. But so far we've just goofed off with it by lowering it into a local body of water or running around with it.
@mrken30 I have not recieved the parts that were missing from my order. Midland didn't reply to my e-mails, they were rude and dismissive to me on the phone, and after an e-mail updare from Meh weeks ago I have heard nothing.
Still nothing here, customer service seems non existent with missing parts. There is always the credit card company route for non received items. There are many avenues, instead of ignoring us, 1 month free MVP , a mystery box containing a mount for a midland camera.
@eyewerks I have a feeling that Meh hasn't done anything because the vendor is giving them the run-around and they're trying to figure out what to do without getting more cameras. While I'd feel just as frustrated as you are without an answer, I don't imagine they're enjoying the vendor interaction on their end either.
@dashcloud So are you trying to say that Meh's problem should become MY problem? Unacceptable. Meh needs to resolve this thing. At first Meh instructed those of us that were short a mount to contact Midland. I did, both my e-mail and by telephone. Midland is not responsive to e-mails, and they're rude and dismissive on the phone. There are mounts for sale on Midland's site. Perhaps Meh needs to demand that they fork some over or buy some to resolve this issue. I have already missed the opportunities to use the camera for the events it was purchased for.
@eyewerks I'm not saying that- I'm saying they are likely trying to sort out what to do, and due to an unfortunate series of events haven't gotten back to you yet. It sucks, and you did nothing wrong here.
@hollboll Thank you! It's good to know that progress is being made. (Now, if I catch you doing any of those silly live feed things between now and when the mounts ship out there's going to be hell to pay.)
@JonT@Snapster Wow. Nice ethical way to do business. Or were you trying to be funny? Many of us have waited over a month for the mounts that we PAID for, yet you seem to think that making a comment that imposes addition conditions is somehow acceptable. If I were your employer and you treated my customers that way I'd fire your ass forthwith. From where I sit your first priority should be fixing the error that inconvenienced your customers. Good hearted joking around is one thing, but trying to create a nexus between a real world transaction and behavior/activity/comments on the forums is right out! I get a sense that some Meh employees take themselves and the virtual constructs of this "community" a bit too seriously. I also think there's a contingency of Meh lemmings that run amuck like a bunch of brown nosing puppies, starring everything a said my anyone with a flask next to their name. I personally find it kind of sad and creepy (especially since their intent seems to be to side with Meh over customers in matters where the customer has done no wrong). Why don't we start off by letting people know exactly what your job at Meh is, @JonT, and then perhaps the powers that be can discuss my suggestion of having Shawn develop a piece of code that allows us to see exactly who is starring the posts on the forums, Thank you, and I await my overdue mount.
@eyewerks Wow, what a response to my good hearted little joke! I guess we're both lucky that you're not my employer. :)
My first priority absolutely was and is getting this fixed for my customers, which is why I made sure @hollboll took a look into what was going on when I saw that the mounts still hadn't been received, which lead to her posting that update up there. I'm very sorry that some of you didn't receive everything you paid for, but we are in the process of making that right as quickly as we possibly can.
I truly thought it was abundantly clear that I was joking, we're pretty silly 'round these parts…I mean have you seen our office? It sounds like you're not having the best time around here, which is a shame, but as I've said before our community isn't for everyone. I hope you'll stick around and try to have a little fun with us, but if not then no hard feelings. We'll make sure to get you your mount ASAP, I'll personally send it out tomorrow.
Oh, and maybe you should give the LabStream another try, I think it was on last weeks show that I admitted to sometimes starring my own posts.
@JonT Gotcha! :) Of course I knew you were kidding, ...but I have to admit I wanted you to wonder whether or not I was. On reading it now, I think I may have gone a little over the top, ...but that what's happens when you type a lot of text into this little reply box. Thanks to you and @hollboll for getting this squared away.
@JonT While this has nothing to do with this camera. I have to impart my thoughts on two areas which are: 1) it would be nice to have a reply box that shows the entie conversation you are typing. Like with the "what do you want to say" box. Editing is very difficult for ADD members like me in that little long box. 2) As for seeing who starred you - I would not do it. I remember when deals.woot went to a down-voting format and to this day I think it was a really BAD idea. Keep stars anonymous, and plus votes only. It is far more community friendly.
Am I the only one who buys stuff from Meh and sticks the boxes in a closet (ever-growing and over flowing) until it's time to give to the recipient (birthday, Christmas, etc...)? Now I'm nervous that the items won't work (camera's, in this case) or is missing pieces. However, if I open everything and try it out it will look like I am giving a used gift or regifting.... Hey, just because I bought something cheap ($ wise), doesn't mean I am actually a tightwad. I also find myself putting the items I purchased "just because" in a closet until I need it-at which point is usually past the 90 day warranty period.
So I ask you, fellow Meh friends, do you open and test things you purchase for other people from Meh?
@ObsidianOne At first, I thought my 1080p version was horrible because it kept pausing the video and was very jerky. I then installed a better and more expensive fast memory card that can handle the bandwidth of the camera and it worked flawlessly.
@cengland Mine is the 720 and sometimes it'll light up, show that it's recording on my helmet, ride to my destination 15 minutes away and both green lights will be on and the REC light will be solid and not record anything. Other times it works. Sometimes no lights will come on unless I remove the battery and reinstall.
@ObsidianOne My 1080p camera seems to work well. I've ridden my motorcycle a few times with the camera strapped to the turn signal upside down. Other than having to rotate the video on the computer later, I was impressed with the quality. Absorbed the shocks of our great California mountain roads much better than my Contour used to. It also has less of a fish eye effect. As far as reliability goes it always recorded until I turned it off or it ran out of battery.
so I tried this thing out for the first time today (yea yea, been meaning to and all that...). anyway, it's a bummer. I recorded my commute both ways, about 70 minutes total, and upon reading the SD card I have 75 seconds of footage.
sucks, because I really wanted to bust the asshole who made an illegal right turn in front of me.
So, I know I’m way outside of the warranty, but yesterday I finally figured out I have a defective unit. I tried once before, but it died after a few seconds so I assumed it had to be in the on position while charging.
Tried charging it both ways yesterday, but still only got about 3 seconds of footage. Any ideas how to get it to work? I don’t mind smashing it then rewiring. It can’t be worse than the defective drones that shocked my fingertips.
@Pantheist no I was trying to narrow down… one of the midlands I received had the magnet inside the camera missing or offset so in the case it wouldn’t record, but outside it was just fine.
So they charge in the off and on positions (at least mine do) but of course they would charge faster in the off position… when you get that 3 seconds of video… does the camera beep when starting and then just beep 3 seconds later… do the lights stay on? what I am getting at is does it appear to be working fine? If YES try another memory card (perhaps a different brand/class). If NO (aka it turns itself off right after you turn it on) I am guessing battery.
@Pantheist try just plugging it into a power adapter (no computer) turn it on and see if it records? I have no idea if it works when connected to a machine with an actual data connection, never tried that. I just use my cigarette to usb adapter in the car when I use it as my cheap dashcam
I take it you tried another memory card and it acted the same?