@NoTroop The battery life is definitely a deal killer. If I have to worry about my watch not making it through a full day then it's too much bother. I could see this ending up in a drawer very quickly.
@sinless Showing the baby arm with the watch would imply that it's baby-arm compatible, but the size difference between the baby arm and the watch would show that it's obviously baby-arm incompatible. Meh wisely avoided the paradox.
@okaytodd ditto - thought about getting it to poke fun at my friend who's getting an iwatch - but he'd have the last laugh if I mentioned the battery life.
@okaytodd and ponder that 5-7 hour rating being for a virgin battery, not a refurb. But only 15 bucks? I wonder if it could be jump-started in the middle of the day with an external battery pack?
I've been wanting to get a MetaWatch for a quite a while now but no matter what (tried entering all of my dozen credit cards), the order just won't go through.
I just read all of that description, thinking there may be something hidden in there. Like some sort of super secret squirrel type of message that would require a super spiffy decoder ring retrieved after cashing in hundreds of cereal box UPC codes... Now my brain hurts and I can't bring myself to buy the refurbished METAwatch. Even if I only bought it for target practice. Wait that sounds like a good idea... Nahhhhh.
@Rowsdower i used to have apps like that, but they all pretty much turned to crap over time, so i stopped bothering. also, i was broke as a joke at the time.
@snapster thanks - figured as much and bought one last nite, after @JonT confirmed the 5-7 "hour" battery life is really "days". 1,500+ sold as of this morning and not sold out - wow, you folks must have a shipping container full of these!
Is the hand model a man or a woman? The smooth skin complexion and lack of hair make me want to say woman but the size of the ring band leads me to believe it's a man hand.
I think it's unfair and cruel of Meh to take advantage of an old lady. I already confessed my gadget habit, and you put this up just when my resistance is lowest, at midnight. Lousy battery life is not a problem, I have a short attention span. I only bought one, though.
@deadlybunny And ever since then, mine freezes up every week or so - and I have to wait for the battery to die to un-freeze it. Fortunately, it kills the battery in a day. Normal battery life is 5-7 days. Until the last firmware update it was pretty reliable.
@iggy71 But of course, then you have to avoid updating the companion app on the iPhone, because it only works with that version of firmware...which means turning off the very nice auto update for all apps. And if you are a new buyer, only the current version of the app is available. So no way out, really.
After careful analysis with a text diff command, it seems there's no difference between the sections other than Adolf complaining in between. Boo, I was hoping for some easter eggs.
Don't you guys get it? The 5-7 hours was no typo because we know the battery lasts that many days. Meh knows that, too. So 5-7 feigns a reference to hours when it is actually tipping you off to a DAY. The next FUKU date will be on May 7th.
A quick Google search reveals that these are hackable. You can display custom stuff on them (via Bluetooth and custom apps) or even write your own firmware (they have msp430 microcontrollers inside and the charging clip is also a programming adapter).
@pib I'm a hard-core Pebble user, but at $15 I might give it a whirl and see if it's any good at all. Might also be fun to write stuff for it. I already have a watchface I've written for Pebble.
Does anyone know if it is possible to increase the qty after purchasing or if subsequent orders will incur additional shipping costs for non vmp members?
@iamaustin Pretty sure you're charged per order. However, if you already bought one, I think you could cancel the order from your order history page and reorder really quick. Seems to be the simplest way.
@Icegnat I just did that. First order was at 12:28 the new one at 12:58 - as long as its showing up on my order page I should be good as far as not being sold out or anything right?
@iamaustin a couple thoughts: 1) Even if you don't want to get on the VMP wagon train, if you want to order even a single item it makes sense to sign up for one month since the cost is the same as one-time shipping. Then you're good for free shipping if you find something else in that month. If you don't trust yourself to cancel VMP in a month, do it anytime in that month.
2) There is a "cancel" order link on your order page for up to an hour after you order, so if you want more than one and don't want multiple boxes, you can cancel and reorder more in a single order.
metawatch was great a few years back when i received my kickstarter original pebble. i havent followed them in a good while, but at $15 i'd definitely love to check two out.
@stoopkid Yeah I kinda want one too, but never wear watches. I was thinking maybe get the frame one and take the strap off and put it on a lanyard or string hung from my desk or something, but, meh... It'll probably sell out or I'll forget about it before I make up my mind.
It was a dark and stormy night, and the Captain said to the Lieutenant, "Tell me a ghost story". And the Lieutenant said to the Captain, "It was a dark and stormy night, and the Captain said to the lieutenant 'Tell me a ghost story', and then the lieutenant said to the captain......"
I have one of these "reflective mirror display" metawatches. The display is HORRIBLE. There are some lighting conditions where it looks really good, but most of the time it's impossible to see. Like, for example, if you're in an ambiently lit room with lightly coloured walls, which is just about all the time indoors, it is impossible to distinguish the lightly-coloured background from the "mirror reflection" of the lightly-coloured walls.
If anyone wants mine (it's green), get me a message, somehow, and I'll sent it to you for just the price of shipping.
By the way, the display is a monochrome reflective LCD (or similar technology), not LED. I have the Strata and consider it quite readable in most all conditions. Sometimes I have to tilt the watch slightly to improve readability, but have never thought it to be a problem. Great buy!
Chose the Strata, confirmation page said I had purchased the Frame. Looking back on the original email after canceling the first order I see the order was correct the first time, sorry about the cancel and reorder. Stoked
I might be more interested if I hadn't gotten a Pebble watch recently -- sale price plus add'l discount for people with .edu email addresses brought it down to a reasonable price. However, $15 for an inferior version does not excite me.
OK, I bit. I don't want a Smart Watch because I love "real" watches way too much. But kind of love the idea of one. $15 to try the tech out seems like a bargain. I'll love it or hate it, but for that price I can try before spending big. Might convince me to get an Apple Watch when/if they bring out a waterproof version 2.
Went for the Strata because I can wear it in water. Oh yes, and it was the only one left.
I bought a No1 G2 watch from over the pond. It's a colored watch and does more, but it got me hooked on getting notifications on my wrist. Its nice to leave the phone in a pocket and only pull it out for more important notifications. Only downfall with mine is 1 day of battery life. I keep forgetting to charge at bedtime. This will last longer and I don't really need a color screen, all I care for is the notification.
Had a meta Strata for a few months now. It's a great glance watch especially since I'm a Bartender. Make sure you update the software so you get notifications for every app on your phone. It's a great watch. I bought 2 more for spares. Love it.
@unixrab a truly moot point since the Frames appeared to sell out before 2 am and everything was sold out by morning. At most the "hour" vs. "day" typo was a temporary aggrevation.
It looked like about 300 sold even before the typo was corrected.
moot to everyone except those who passed on it and didn't get it. A minor detail, but again, this site does troll tens of thousands of people every FUKU ... I was just curious though. A small detail today could be a big one tomorrow... just a thot
@unixrab That I understand-- the inconvenience to saw the typo & bailed. Your comment was about lost sales; I thought you were making a funny. Sorry. (I never trust the fine print (& it's all fine print to me.))
@sammydog01 shush. That part was implied but intentionally un-emphasized. But prices are a funny thing - 'hard to put the cat back in the bag after you cool off a deal with luke-warm price. And as @unix... would proudly proclaim, gotta throw some VMP bait into the pond.
@RedOak Nah, they just under price the occasional super cool item to make us all check at midnight every day. Then we buy half asleep because this one might also sell out. And by morning it's too late to cancel. Sneaky.
@chughes15 I'll check out all the apps that others have produced first. If I should get another in a fuku, I would definitely customize the hell out of it.
Whelp, I got the Frame today and charged it for a bit then updated the firmware and arranged/configured some apps on it. After charging a bit more, I unplugged it and tried to put it on. First thing I noticed was the strap was almost too short. (it would be a tight fit) The next thing I noticed was it was missing the metal clasp! Gone. Hmmm...nowhere to be found in the box...nothin'. I have notified meh support. We'll see where we go from here. Luckily, the strap is replaceable, so I might have to visit a jewelry store and pay more for a new strap/clasp than I did for the watch. We shall see.
@medz Mine showed up today, but I am at work and it is at home (in the mailbox or on the porch or sitting inside on the table (because my son brought it in) I cannot say. But Fedex tells me it was delivered. I am unnaturally excited. It's a damn watch, Joel, just a damn watch. You don't even like watches.
@medz I can probably send you a buckle. When mine shows up tomorrow I'll check the buckle and see if I have one that matches the original in my stock of straps and buckles. I can probably come pretty close to the original. But if not, you can grab a buckle from eBay for a couple bucks including shipping. I'll update you when mine shows up and I see what's on there.
@ruouttaurmind Thanks. None of my old watches had a buckle type strap. I found some replacement straps (with buckle) on Amazon that looked ok for under $10. The buckle by itself was like twice that price. Haven't checked ebay yet. O'course, I'll also have to buy a tool to work with the pins... I had to add a link to an old watch and it took me forever without the proper tools and I nearly lost the spring loaded pin...
@medz You might want to walk into your local department store (Sears, Penneys) with the watch and ask at the jewelry counter whether they can put a new band on it while you wait. Probably less costly than a standalone jewelry store.
@RedOak I figure it was sent back due to the missing buckle and the refurb shop did what I did and tried all the fun stuff first and deemed it to be working without trying to put it on. "Works great! Box it up and send it out!" Edit: I did win one for cheap on ebay, but it's coming from hong kong...
@geoff_selby I assume you charged it for a while. Make sure the clip is lined up good with the watch's contact points. Does the blue light on the clip come on when it's plugged in?
@medz Yep. Been on the charger since I got it out of the box earlier. Clip is lined up and the blue light is on. The little light at the top of the display works. But the display itself does not.
@geoff_selby boooooo... Why would meh do this to us?! Try holding the middle button on the left (button B) and the middle button on the right (button E) for 10 seconds.
@medz FedEx Dumb-post/USPS finally came through and I received my Frame today. I can def. match that buckle. Lessee... how to get me your contact info so I can drop it in the mail to you? Meh doesn't support PM's...
@ruouttaurmind Thanks, but ordered a new (longer) band w/buckle from amazon and a really cheap buckle from hong kong via ebay. If neither of those work, i will come back here and take you up on it.
Downloaded the updated firmware, installed the app, and attempted to bluetooth sync the phone. That's when shit hit the fan. Watch totes ma goats froze up and nothing seems to work. Emailed MetaWatch's CS, now we wait.
@studerc My connected and was working. Then I lost connected and two of the little widgets seemed to be in perpetual "loading" mode. I decided to update the firmware. And that's going nowhere.
my watch is fine... ugly as sin, but it's working. however their firmware updater simply mocks me. it looks like i'm clicking a button but nope... nothing. stuck with 1.5.1
and every time i get a call or text the face reverts back to one that i did not set.... and whenever it connects to the phone it sends me text messages from 3 months ago.
@hardyd I had this issue. I went into the device manager in my control panel, and found the USB device with unrecognized driver. I did a driver update, which then warned me that allowing driver updates from windows was blocked. I checked the option to allow the update. After that, I was able to load the new firmware.
@hardyd I'll jump on the bandwagon here. There was a warning about not using a USB hub, so I tried every USB port that's integrated into my PC chassis (10) and went ahead and did try it on the USB hub on my monitor and another cable. I tried both ports on the wife's computer. No joy. I've started a conversation with support.
@joelmw@lichme I never actually bothered to find the device. I just plugged the thing in, downloaded the zip from dropbox, ran the exe and it found my watch without issue. Bummer that it's being a problem for so many people :\
@joelmw Thanks, I tried that too, but it didn't work. (I'm running a Mac.) I've decided not to stress about the firmware, for now anyways. Its syncing up with my phone and is somewhat functional and fun... MEH
@Lotsofgoats I couldn't get the update to work on my Macbook running 10.10. The app would load, I would click the button, it would prompt me for my password, then NOTHING. Got to work this morning and downloaded the PC version, plugged it in and it updated in the time it took me to write this comment.
@Mrinal the battery in mine was stone dead. without charging it wouldn't turn on and even after being plugged in a while it would die as soon as it was disconnected.
@ishoppe247 after being plugged in for a few hours, the battery came to life and the battery life has been excellent. I ran it it for 6 days on the first charge.
Meh'd a watch. Then I noticed it says 4S as the oldest iPhone supported. My broke-ass iPhone 4 and I might be out of luck :-/ but I'll try it anyway. No regrets!
@RDW0409 That's a hardware problem, unfortunately. These watches require Bluetooth Low Energy, which is something that was part of Bluetooth 4.0. The iPhone 4 was manufactured to the Bluetooth 2.1 specification, so no amount of jailbreaking and hacking can help you here. Sorry.
@lljk Well dang. Thanks for letting me know before I got too far down the rabbit hole. I passed it off to my brother, who's got a 4S. He seems to be having fun with it anyway.
Mine updated the firmware and I have it synched to my android phone. I also have Windows phone which won't work with it (OR much of anything) but I have had no issues. Bummed for everyone who has.
@Lotsofgoats Totally retro chic. Reminds me of a couple of LCD and LED watches I had when I was a teenager (and that was ever so long ago). You can clearly see the pixels (I'm gonna do my best to pass it off as as nostalgic styling and not just outdated), like on those 8-bit and 16-bit games some folks are into. Hell, all it's missing is the midi. The little cartoon bubble for messages and notifications kills me. And the music player interface is disturbingly surreal anachronistic. Yaknow, what this needs is a steam punk watch band--which would certainly cost two or three (or more) times what I paid for the watch. What the fuck? Yeah, I have to say, this watch was definitely worth the $15--maybe not much more, but definitely worth the 15. :-D
@joelmw Received Watch and it paired fine with my LG Lucid. I tried to update the firmware..failed on the first 3 pc's but completed on using a Acer Laptop so the computer being used to update the firmware may not like the firmware software. It took the 1.5.5 just fine and now watch is working meh. Earlwallace
The firmware updater hasn't been working for me either (and I'm a Mac user). I'm still happy since one, the watch was 15 bucks, two, the watch still works just fine, and three, MetaWatch support actually got back to me a day after I emailed them.
Thanks for selling this in the first place, Meh, I'm loving it.
I got it resolved with the help of MetaWatch support. To anyone in the same boat as me, the Dropbox link to the Mac updater also has a link to previous versions. Download the 1.5.3 and 1.5.5 updaters, get the firmware file out of the 1.5.5 updater (right-click and show package contents and dig around for a bit, it's named G2-104000.a43), then open the 1.5.3 updater and drag and drop G2-104000.a43 onto the 1.5.3 updater window. That worked for me. (I'll provide more detailed instructions in another post if anyone needs them.)
@lljk This is the only thing I could get to work, thank you for posting this. The path once you Show Package Contents is Contents/Resources/G2-104000.a43
@lljk Hey! Thanks for this! Hadn't looked into updating yet and stumbled on this first. Took me two tries (my fault, messed the USB clip up) but worked great!
@lljk Still did not work. Using the 1.5.3 updater, instead of having nothing happen at all, I got "looking for the watch, 23s" and then an error message saying to unplug the USB, plug it in, and try again. Doing so just gives the error again.
Got mine yesterday, and it has been great so far! Updating the firmware was completely painless for me. I plugged the clip into my computer (Win 8.1), Windows automatically installed drivers, updater app found the watch right away and updated me from firmware 1.5.1 to 1.5.5. Then installed the MetaWatch manager app to my Android phone (Note 2 w/ Android 4.3) and the phone synced right up to the watch without any issues. For $15 I'm quite happy. I now wish I had bought a couple more to give to other people.
This was a poor purchase decision, came right out of the box with a busted screen, and the inside of the watch band is all gunked up with the previous owners arms sweat residue/ skin/oils
@dustinbikes I cant complain about the watch itself, mine seems to work fine. I WANT to complain about the total lack of hygiene of the watch I got... the irreplaceable watch band is gross... Im thinking of dipping this thing on bleach....for the last two hours I have used an iphone sim removal tool to clean my watch and there is still some gunk in there.... Is there a way I can get this exchanged for a cleaner one? I feel like Im using someone elses dirty underwear!
The magic number is three. D/L the firmware update, d/l the driver fix, detect watch on 3rd try, d/l the app from the Play Store, detect Bluetooth device, pair, enter 0000. Reboot phone and watch in between each step, and on the third iteration of everything, it's set up. Note that the firmware update does indeed fix the '93%' battery charge indicator, so now it says 100%. Off to play with my new toy!
Based on the first hour of use, I'm afraid the battery life on the Strata I received will be MUCH shorter than has been stated. It dropped to 88% after just 1 hour? Wonder if it's possible to replace the battery?
Firmware updated, both phone and watch indicate they are synced via Bluetooth, but the app won't go past the pairing screen. Rebooted, re-flashed and re-synced everything, but the issue persists. Anyone else having this issue?
@frog Yes, and after about three reboots, I figured out how to work the app. After you've paired, you need to restart your phone and THEN start the app. On the app on the smartphone, top right three-dot menu, under settings, go to 'reset widget layout', which removes all the widgets so you can select new ones. I reboot my phone every 3rd time I make major resets to the layouts, just because. Touch and hold a widget on one of the 'phone face' screens to remove it. Swipe to get to the next screen of widgets. The full-screen clock widget takes up one full screen, etc. After you're done dinking with widgets you can exit the app, or be safe and restart the phone. I just spent a two-hour meeting inconspicuously (perhaps) checking my incoming email, weather and calendar by looking at my wrist instead of hauling out my phone. I am such a nerd.
@sammydog01 Sorry, I only know Android, and my watch was totally functional with the correct charger. There are IOS how-to documents, but it looks to me like about 2/3 of users are Android. Besides that, I don't like the sports widgets, the Rays and Miami don't win their games if I run them. It has nothing to do with the teams, I'm sure it's the widgets. Maybe I need to go sacrifice a goat or something?
Here is what the inside of a charger clip with a USB connector broken off looks like.
My son and I both bought watches. His USB connector came off the PCB and took some of the copper traces with it. I am going to try soldering a USB cable to the other ends of those traces, and see if I can make it work that way. Until then, we will take turns with my good charger.
His charger was making intermittent contact, so he tried pushing a little harder on the connector. One of the traces must have already been broken, and it didn't take much force to separate the rest.
I'm still charging mine, so I haven't done anything with it yet.
@hamjudo For those who want to try this themselves. The outer contacts are the cable shield. The 5 inner contacts, with the board as shown above, from left to right are: Black (GND), not connected (ID), Green (D+), White (D-), Red (+5V). The fat side of the connector is closest to the board.
@hamjudo does not work. On my first try the ground wire broke off. I think power went through the wrong parts and fried something. It doesn't work with all of the wires in the right place.
Note the "+" and "-" in the above picture. I flipped the board over and soldered a red wire to the pin with the "+", and a black wire to the "-" pin. I ran those wires outside of the clip. I soldered those wires to the red and black wires in a USB cord. Obviously, it isn't useful for upgrading the firmware, but it charges.
My battery is only good for a little over two days. So I need to charge it fairly often.
@hamjudo kudos on on your bulldogging the issue. The battery on mine seems so go 5 days. But perhaps you're seeing a lot more notifications or using yours as a media control. I'm less happy with how it sucks down my phone battery.
@RedOak It could be the pedometer. One day it said I walked 13k steps. (I spent a few hours walking behind a self propelled lawnmower, I think the watch picks up vibrations from the mower, and interprets them as steps. So the count may be inflated.) I also have it display seconds.
More likely the battery is getting old or was abused. I am afraid I will damage the seals if I replace the battery. I swim with the watch in our meter deep back yard swimming pool.
@hamjudo wait!?! I almost recalled the Strata had better water protection (and not a Leather band like the Frame). But pedometer? Does it do that? Don't recall seeing that feature on my Frame or in the description for the Strata.
Although with the included 3-Axis accelerometer it seems plausible. Is that part of the hardware sitting idle?
@medz aha - you must have something other than an iPhone 5. I believe the step counter started with the 5s. So you are seeing those steps via the phone just like any other notification enabled on the phone.
@RedOak i have a nexus 5. I think it's an included widget with the android version of the metawatch app. See the Steps Today choice in this screenshot.
@medz I don't know the android version, but seeing gmail on that list, I wonder, is the steps thing a MW widget or a function on your Nexus simply sending notifications to the MW? In other words, is there a quadrant of one of the 4 screens on your MW dedicated to "Steps" - or do notifications pop up on the MW?
@medz@RedOak The app is using the sensors in my Nexus 5 Android phone. I walked around the kitchen table long enough for it to calibrate and start counting steps. Then I took my phone out of my pocket and set it on the table. It stopped counting. I put the phone back in my pocket, and put the watch on the table. It started counting again while I walked around the table without wearing the watch.
The Nexus 5 has a hardware pedometer, many Android phones do not. You can write an app that monitors the accelerometers and acts as a pedometer in software, but that will wake up the CPU several times per second and kill your battery.
@medz@RedOak I've seen my Strata step counter as much as 50% above what Google Fit reports. The more starts and stops, the further off it seems to be. I did an experiment today. I didn't carry my phone with me until I mowed the lawn. Google Fit reports 5,733, my watch reports 5,723 steps. They are pretty close on long steady walks, and sometimes way off on the short ones.
Here is a high level description of the step counter, it seems odd that two apps could read it differently: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html#44-sensors I am guessing that the MetaWatch app is just as buggy handling steps as it is handling text messages. I get some texts twice, some once, some not at all.
Uh, am I just retarded or what? I can't seem to actually clip the charger onto the watch so that the contacts line up. Is there some trick to it? I've been trying for like ten minutes. Haha. The clip just doesn't seem like it actually fits..
@tallergeese The Strata charger fits on the Frame, but the Frame charger doesn't fit on the Strata. Compare the profile of your charger clip with the one shown as the accessory to both models (the marvels of photo shop). If you've got a Frame, and the charger doesn't look like the one in the picture, that's your problem.
Just got mine today and finally got it charged up and set up. Gotta say I was having issues until I updated to the newest firmware 1.5.5 but doing so was easy. Can't believe they ever sold these for $200, I think $15 is reasonable for what you get. The display is not well explained anywhere and needs to be experienced in person to truly understand how Mirror-like it really is.
@Shuttlevvorth the mirror display does have a silver lining (ha, ha) - your notifications are relatively private unlike when those notices pop up on a Pebble watch! (one Redditor described wearing a Pebble watch out on a date with A. Midway through dinner with A, a text arrive from a later date B about being delayed. A read the text before the redditor could dismiss it and A was not happy to learn about the redditor's second date that night!)
@edheil for future update attempters (I delayed until I realized the update included caching 4 notifications) . . . On several of our Windows (7) machines they refused to recognize the watch. By that, I mean they seemed to realize there was a USB device connected, but would not "connect" in the Updater software.
It finally worked after I left the watch connected to the PC for many minutes - and waited for the full driver to auto-install (don't recall the name but it was unusual). Then I started the Updater software on the PC and it worked.
This thing never charges beyond 60% and half the buttons stick. Press a button, it goes in... and doesn't pop back out unless I eff with it for a few seconds. Push, jiggle, push again, wiggle... eventually the button will pop back out.
@ruouttaurmind Yeah, the buttons are kind of annoying. Some are worse than others. Wonder if there's anything we can do for that.
On the display, I've noticed that in most conditions (which, oddly doesn't have to do with the quantity of light, but with its quality?) it's great, but there are a few types of light (and I haven't pinned it down, but it generally happens in certain locations within my house) in which I basically can't see it unless I rotate it to just the right angle.
OK so now I'm kind of digging it but man, the thing is tight on my wrist, I have to use the last notch on the strap. Wish I'd gotten a frame instead of a strata so I could swap out the band! But they were all out.
Bought two watches. One of the charging clips does not work. The LED will not light up when it's plugged in. The other one works fine.
Not sure how to proceed with this. Charging clips are $20 from the Metawatch store. I would use one clip with both watches but they are gifts and will not be in the same physical location.
I know Meh doesn't have a bunch of extra clips lying around . . . and I don't want to return the watch . . . hmm, what to do.
@kcimpulse notifications are automatically closing after a few moments for me. No need to take action. If you want them gone faster, have you tried toggling the top right button?
Got mine, charged it, and eventually upgraded the firmware. All seems to work well, but I don't get notifications for text messages. Also, my email always says 0 messages. Any ideas on how to fix these?? Notifications work because when I leave the house, my cam picks up the motion and I get the notification on my wrist. That's kind of a neat notification to get.
@derek17j seems like I had to turn on text messages on separately... In the app, go into the notifications area where you can allow individual apps. Make sure your texting app is allowed.
@medz Thanks. I turned on text messages and also in the notifications, choose metafilter, and then show more. In here I found a mail that was unchecked. Once checking it I now get mail.
Tips I would have found helpful upon opening the box: (I'm using it with an iPhone)
- Go to the support page on the pink card in the box (support.metawatch.com) and print the brief "Getting Started Guide".
- Make sure the notifications for anything you want reported on the watch are turned on in your phone Notifications settings.
- Perhaps it is obvious to many folks, but the Metawatch app must be running at all times (not just for setup/config) you want the watch to work. Bluetooth alone does not do the job.
- There is a little cell phone icon with an "X" next to it that will show up on the watch display if your phone is not properly connected to your phone. Cycling the phone Bluetooth off and on seems to work.
- As others have said, that mirror display takes some getting used to. You can play around with the inverse screen settings. The smallest font text on the watch is almost impossible to easily read with my middle-aged eyes, even with reading glasses.
- Haven't felt the need to update the firmware yet. I'm one of those if it ain't broken, don't break it people.
- I'm glad I paid only 15 bucks for it. Not sure how long this smart watch experiment will last on my wrist.
@RedOak Specifically, the 1.5.5 release notes list "Third-party music controls" as an added feature. I have a noise generator app on my phone and my watch can start and stop it now that I'm on 1.5.5.
I just got mine. I tried connecting it to my phone and the app, and it connected successfully, but then every time it goes into a reset loop. I've tried updating the firmware (using both the 1.5.5 and 1.5.3 updaters), but both fail to find the watch.
@ninjaboyhya Did you by any chance configure the watch to use one of the full-screen clock faces? The last two (the city skyline and the one with the big hours and small minute numbers) only work with the latest version of the firmware. If your watch isn't on 1.5.5 and you use the app to set one of those faces, the watch will freeze for a few seconds and then crash. If that is set as the default screen on the watch then I suppose it'd get caught in a loop.
@lljk I didn't do any custom configuration. But maybe the app sets one of those by default? I'll see if I can remove all widgets before the reset loop resets it. Any tips on updating the firmware?
So, has anyone else tried pushing the face as though it's a touch screen and there's more information lurking behind the absurd simplicity of what it does show? All day the first day I had it. And still I sometimes catch myself doing it.
This also happens with computer monitors.
Of course my wife's new laptop does have a touchscreen display. Holy fuck am I ever confused.
Hey, just a note -- I got it updated (by going to Windows), got it paired, and it's working great, doing what it's supposed to do. A damn fine piece of equipment for $15.
@username The patch notes for different firmware versions are bundled with the firmware installer. And yes, 1.5.5 does add two more full-screen clock faces.
Just wanted to say mine looks fine and not gross, I was able to update the firmware (failed on Mac but succeeded on windows 8), and it's working pretty great. I mean, it's kind of limited due to not having a ton of apps, but for the price I freaking love this thing.
@CurtainGuy Likewise. I bought the Strata and took it bike riding yesterday and it was awesome. Controlled my tunes, the mirrored display is incredibly visible outside. Super happy with it. I had an old android screen protector lying around and cut one to fit because as tall as the Strata is, I think the screen will get scratched pretty quick and it's such a sweet looking screen. Since it's so small compared to a phone, the protector didn't bubble up at all and is invisible. If anyone hacks some new widgets, post some links baby! Feeling pretty half full today Meh!
@sctthrrmn That's a great idea. Would you please help me find where I stored the spare screen protectors I bought two years ago? They're in my house. Somewhere logical. Not in the box with the extra cables, or USBs, or chips. @Carl669, where did you put them?
btw, has anyone taken it apart yet? i have a feeling the mirror background can be taken out or replaced with something dark, then it will look any other LCD display.
I just got my watch and my buttons don't seem to worK. I thought it was frozen but I saw the time Change along with my phone. Anyone else have the same Issue
@conandlibrarian hey conan. I fixed it somehow by opening it up. Removing the main module and clicking each of the 6 buttons on the watch frame and the 6 metal inputs on the module itself. Make sure to remove the battery(circular black thing) to not fry it. After i put it back together, it may not turn on so just dock it to restart the watch and the buttons should work.
Meh support got back to me regarding the missing buckle. In the mean time, peep this kick ass substitute watch band. If you thought the watch was sexy before, hold on to your nips... Boom! Black stainless steel. For the extra geeky look.
The biggest reason I bought this watch was so that I can keep my iPhone in my pocket and control the volume of the Music app without having to remove it. I got my watch today, updated it on the computer (which I was worried about after hearing horror stories, but it went fine), and got it all set up exactly how I like it. But for some reason I cannot get this watch to control my music. It shows the song listed, it shows the buttons, and it animates the icons when I hit the buttons, but it will not control my phone. I'm super annoyed because the main reason I bought this watch is the only feature I cannot get to work. Is anyone else having trouble with iPhone's Music app and this watch controlling it?
@melancholysp I gave it a brief run with the music app and it worked fine as I recall. Even better, I can control volume, pause and resume play and skip ahead with TuneIn. I assume I can do the same with Podcasts and Spotify (my two next most frequent sound apps), though I haven't tested yet.
@melancholysp Make sure you go to Firmware 1.5.5 and it works 90% of the time will all music players. However i do see it become un-responsive and i need to reboot the watch. Thank god its so easy to reboot by holding the 2 middle buttons for like 10 seconds. Once i reboot it the music playback works without issue allways.
Aaaand the second day I wear it, it freezes up and will not reset or anything. I don't have the charger with me at work so I can't try recharging it, but it shouldn't need a charge yet.
@lichme The thing where you hold down the three righthand buttons while clipping and unclipping the charger repeatedly ACTUALLY WORKED. Well, kind of. The watch rebooted and became responsive again, but the image it was stuck on all day is now burned into the screen, and the current contens of the screen are faintly visible behind it. Maybe this will get better with time?
I got mine yesterday and I must say it looked decidedly watchlike but I didn't play with it because a gps for the rv came in and I spent all nite mucking with it. Don't know why I bought the watch, I'm surrounded by clocks all day and never wear one.
I got mine, works and installed fine. - Get the user manual, if you haven't already See bottom for Downloads . Says what the buttons are for, for one thing. - I don't have a smart phone, but the iPad handles the MWM app fine (for setup-- clearly I can't walk around everywhere with a WiFi iPad on me). - I like the stock widget app. It works great for stock symbols, I haven't figured out how to make it work with indices (DJIA, SP500, etc.). I could use the ETF versions of those, but that doesn't tell me what the real index values are.
Question: are there forums out there that talk about the metawatch, its widgets, tips & tricks, etc.?
@WaltC Just tried ^DJI and it's not working on mine either. Did you have ^DJI on the watch during market hours? Sometimes I've had symbols act strangely after the session close. It is strange.
@WaltC funny, now the ETF I had in place before running the ^DJI test is showing up N/A also. I'm thinking ^DJI will likely work if you leave it up through an open session.
@sctthrrmn ^DJI doesn't during trading either. ^DJX does (1/100 the value of ^DJI (with a little jitter)). I found some mention about DJ not allowing intraday quotes by yahoo. Perhaps that's it.
The MetaWatch Community Edition app seems to have disappeared from the Play Store. Is it not supported anymore? Can we only rely on the official stuff now?
Got mine today. Charged it up and it seems to be working great. Leather band had some seams in it from previous use but otherwise the watch looks flawless to my eyes.
Only complaint is that I can't seem to log into Twitter from the MetaWatch Manager app on my Samsung Galaxy S6. Every time I try to click the "Sign into Twitter" button in the settings menu the app crashes.
I will say now that I have used it for a few days I don't want to go back. I can check the texts while driving instead of digging it out of my pocket. When I get home I toss my phone on the table or when I watch tv I place it on silent. I now can just glance at my watch to see my alerts, so I know if it's Clash of Clans or a text message. I already saved me from missing an important call when I was in another room and the phone was left on silent.
If you guys dont have music on your phone and use a music streaming service, spotify is compatible with the watch. Just go into the manager and select spotify as the preferred music application.
@JonT Clearly you all need to get another supply of them, then. ;-) (Seriously, in the week or so that I've been wearing my MetaWatch, I've already got two family members who have said they'd like to buy one from Meh if it ever comes up again.)
@charleshamel73 this is the interesting part, since Pebble is not natively compatible with Spotify (needs an extra app), but i think Meta works because it has "always on" meta app running. Pebble has some service, but the app doesn't need to be up and running 24/7 for connection
@dajim92 Are you playing music from anything other than the default music app? If you are, update your watch to 1.5.5, as apparently something in that version of the firmware made it work with third-party audio-playing apps. If your watch is up to date, however, then I'm not sure how to help.
@dajim92 I swear it was working with TuneIn, but seems to have stopped. Someone said something about rebooting the watch. I would imagine the controls are just the universal controls so they should work with most audio apps on the iPhone (that support those controls, e.g., on the lock screen, ear phone buttons, etc.).
Okay guys and gals - the Noah version sets up fine but the watch locks up when yoiu hit a button and none seem to work. This using 1.5.5 firmware. Bummer, but the "Official" MWM works pretty slick anyways! I traveled betwwen buildings at work the last two days, separating myself from my phone and each time when i got in range the watch locked on to the phone right where it left off! :)
So I downgraded to 1.5.1 and ran Noah edition of CE and it worked fined. I just wasn't impressed so I upgraded back to 1.5.5 . I will play with the straight CE version someday, but AFAIK Noah was supposed to be a step better. :)
I again downgraded to 1.5.1 and tried the straight CE version. It works well and has a lot of potential for improvement. Any Mehrican out there want to take this on for a project? Who's with me on this? :)
So my watch is in a constant reboot loop, basically every 10-30 seconds it will turn off and back on.
I've tried to update it but get the "no response on ping" error, on windows side it just queries and goes back to the query button (and coincidentally my watch will restart in the middle of this)
Hard resetting by holding both middle buttons or holding the 3 on the right and plugging/unplugging with the charger will reset the watch, but it immediately goes back into the boot loop.
Stuck on 1.5.1
Anyone have any ideas? Or am I stuck with a paperweight?
Got my watch today. Charged it, updated it to 1.5.5, linked it, and played around with it for about 20 minutes. Has anyone looked around, or found any custom watch faces for the full screen watch? I know that there were some on the pre-loaded app, but I was hoping there might be a way to add more.
@Bogie What I did was 'delete all widgets', then add back the ones you want. For the full screen watch face, you have faces with fish, skyline, etc. when you customize it.
@Bogie I've seen references to user sites etc. for the Pebble, and I hope to find similar for this. There are some things in the AppStore but I haven't d/l any yet. Maybe this weekend,
I've been using the watch for a week now, and am pretty impressed by it. Battery life seems to be better than I expected, surprisingly. I charged the watch Sunday night, took it off of the charger Monday morning. Now it's Friday, almost 4.5 days later (105 hours), and the battery meter is at 52%. I've grown to like getting all my phone notifications on my wrist. - It lets me keep my phone on silent all the time without missing anything. - It might be helping my phone battery life as well, since I'm not turning my phone on just to check notifications anymore. - The music play controls have been convenient too, though I wish it would show the currently playing song/artist when I'm using Spotify. The buttons work great, but the watch screen just shows "Song Name" and "Artist."
@kasona unscientific battery experience for me. . . the watch seems to last about 5 days before dropping to 20%. The watch appears to suck up about 10-20% of my phone battery life each day.
@kasona Spotify works for me, i wonder if this is because i installed Spoticast to make it work with Pebble as well. i think the issue is Spotify's closed API
@b55er As far as I know, there's no way to turn the watch off, short of letting the battery run dry. If you are going to be away from your phone for long periods of time then you can save power by disabling Bluetooth (press the bottom-right button to open watch settings, then press the top-right button to enable or disable Bluetooth).
@lljk Amazing that there would be no off switch. How could Meta sell a battery powered consumer electronic device with no off switch?
From what I know of FCC regs, there has to be a way to turn off (or unpower) a class B computing device (which this is), not just BT, but the whole device.
Okay so it pairs with my Nexus 5 well, and I do get to see that I received texts and phone calls, but the buttons don't seem to do anything. I can't even hit the light-on button, which seems like it would work independently of the software support. Is my watch faulty or is Android support really that bad?
@Dash So the problems came with the Frame edition. I also ordered the Strata, and decided to bust it open and see if it had the same issue. Waiting for it to charge up but the backlight does turn on at will with the top left button so I am assuming my Frame buttons are just faulty(unless someone has some sort of software based solution to throw at me). I do prefer the classy look of the Frame so I'll be contacting whoever I need to get a replacement.
@Dash i would say the light button would be independent from any software problems. Hardware problem for sure. Edit: I too have the nexus 5 and the Frame version of the watch. Buttons work for me. Sometimes it will lose connection to watch and I have to re-pair it via Bluetooth. Other than that, works good.
@tnywatkns Mine has been perfect except for one freeze up which I had to remove the battery to fix. However, I have been using the watch since Wednesday of last week without charging, and my battery is still at 26%. I wish I could say the same of my iPhone.
@tnywatkns Nope, not alone. Mine has worked fine; well worth what little we paid for it. A few things I'd love to see, if this were a going/growing product-- more apps mainly & more capabilities when separated from the smart phone-- things that are hardly realistic in a $15 gadget!
@tnywatkns I think it's great as well. I know I've said earlier in the thread that I'd like for Meh to get more of these in stock, but considering the number of people who have reported hardware problems, maybe they should find a supply that is slightly less mediocre and charge slightly more for them.
@tnywatkns I am really enjoying this watch; it's simple but snazzy, has long battery life (as oppossed to my previous Sony smart watch) and does what I need. I would like to see some Mehrican here take on the expansion of widgets though.
@tnywatkns Mine works well too. Only one freeze which is probably my fault: I pressed the bluetooth on/off button twice in quick succession because I changed my mind about turning off bluetooth. After the 3 right buttons + clip & unclip repeatedly, it rebooted and has been great! It also looks brand new, great value for $15! Seeing notifications on my wrist is really convenient at work and while driving. No more garbled Siri translations of my messages, though I wonder when the watch free laws will start showing up... @daytonatrbo did you try pressing the 3 right buttons + clip & unclip repeatedly before taking out the battery? It was a PITA to do, but probably much easier than disassembly and reassembly.
@Odi I had not come across that method in my research. Removing the back case was no issue at all on the STRATA. It took only seconds to have it apart and back together with the right size screwdriver. Very happy with my MEHtawatch.
Mine froze for the first time today. I had run it 100% out of battery, and couldn't get it to link. Turned off the bluetooth and turned it back on and it hung. I just hooked it up to my PC which fixed it. First charge ran 6 days!
This watch works well and has a lot of potential for improvement. Any Mehrican out there want to take this on for a project? Who's with me on this? :)
See my brief experimental notes below:
I'm using Windows 7 for setup on a Samsung GS5, btw.
Okay guys and gals - the Noah version sets up fine but the watch locks up when you hit a button and none seem to work. This using 1.5.5 firmware. Bummer, but the "Official" MWM works pretty slick anyways! I traveled between buildings at work the last two days, separating myself from my phone and each time when i got in range the watch locked on to the phone right where it left off! :)
So I downgraded to 1.5.1 and ran Noah edition of CE and it worked fined. I just wasn't impressed so I upgraded back to 1.5.5 . I will play with the straight CE version someday, but AFAIK Noah was supposed to be a step better. :)
I again downgraded to 1.5.1 and tried the straight CE version. I feel like the controls were more straightforward (like the 1.5.5 version) than the Noah version. I moved back to 1.5.5 and the current "official" MWM because It just works so nicely.
In case anyone is trying to get the Stocks widget to work, there is an issue (at least for Android) that causes it to not load. I got word from Metawatch support that they are working on a fix.
Thanks! Was having issues with that widget and I came here first to find out about it and sure enough... :)
This thread seems like the best support "forum" for this watch at the moment. Doesn't bode well for the longevity of this smart watch brand but at least it's something. I hope they stick around because the hardware seems pretty solid.
My dad's has yet to work, holds a charge for a few hours and won't connect. Metawatch customer service is sending out a replacement. Seems like a petty stand up company.
@IAmBroom You're right, you should have gotten an answer by now. I'm thinking something went terribly wrong. Maybe when @hollboll gets in tomorrow morning, she can check into this for you.
@aleminopuy@Bogie Keep in mind that the Strata and the Frame chargers are shaped differently. Even though the contact patterns match, and Meh photoshopped in the same charger for both watches, the wider charger works on both watches, but it is a bit loose on the narrow watch. The smaller charger doesn't reach the contacts on the wider watch. (I would have said which was which, but I have already forgotten.)
I just upgraded to a Pebble watch. My daughter got my old Strata. She will probably be ready to give it up once she gets frustrated with it. The battery life is down to about a day and a half. My son also upgraded to a Pebble, but he is keeping his old Meta as a spare. Thus we are not yet ready to be Meta charger donors. I suspect it will happen in the next couple of months.
@aleminopuy So... With @hamjudo making me worried. I purchased the "1 META FRAME" as copied from the "Quantity" section of the order page. Did you get the same model? If you you can get someone to post here to vouch for you that you're not going to do weird things with this watch (and cover shipping), I'll send the charger (And might as well include the watch, since what good is it w/o the charger).
I just want to make sure he goes to a good home and is treated with the love and respect he deserves.
@Bogie I can vouch for @aleminopuy - He's a standup guy. You can trust him him to cover shipping for you and I am confident your charger (and watch) will be treated with the utmost care and respect.
@aleminopuy Okay, sorry for the delay in getting back to you! I started gather up the watch and putting it into a box when my wife asked what I was doing. Apparently she is not ready to give up on it yet and doesn't want me to get rid of it yet. I will keep your information, though. If things change, I will check in to see if you still need a charger. Sorry!
i just fired mine up and it seems to still work.
after i bought this i realized though you could not program/debug using the charging clip, unless I’m mistaken.
a) has anyone done any hacking/creating their own watch-faces or apps?
b) anyone attempted to modify included charge clip to also act as dev clip?
Specs
Frame (the traditional one)
Strata (the retro/sporty one)
Condition: Refurbished
Warranty: 1 Year Meta
Estimated Delivery: 4/21 - 4/24
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
1x Metawatch
1x Charging clip
1x USB to microUSB cable
1x Getting Started guide
1x Quickstart instructions
Pictures
Frame
Watches
Strata
Included with Strata
Frame with arm for scale
Included with Frame
Back of watch
Strata with arm for scale
The next fuku date is…
Price Check
$79.99 (new) at Amazon
Estimated Delivery
FedEx SmartPost: Monday, February 26th - Monday, March 5th
Wow, that description was exhausting...
Oh, and... FIRST!
By the by... that 22mm leather strap is prolly worth $15 on it's own.
@ruouttaurmind good idea. I was looking for strap for my pebble.
@awhosit There ya go. Pebble takes a standard 22mm strap. You may even be able to move the original Pebble buckle over to maintain a OEM look.
Geez, I was so busy being first I forgot to gloat about my adorable-brainless-birthday
@ruouttaurmind Yeah and I read the whole thing, thinking it would have a great ending... but...
@snazweb I felt the same way when I was in sixth grade and had to read Old Yeller...
@ruouttaurmind well done!
Brilliant choice
Happy Apple Watch Day!
Meh-ta watch
I don't have time for this Meh!
@KCFalcon59 watch it! you don't want to tick us off…
@JonT On second thought ...
@narfcake Wait a minute... I see what you did there
@lichme it took me a minute to get all these ponds :)
@KCFalcon59 Hour puns are severly limited for this one.
@GreenMt You guys are aggravating my tick, stop it!
@techdude9 @GreenMt Looks like time ran out on this deal. :-(
Hmmm 15 bucks for a smart watch... Even a refurb 3.6 Amazon reviewed one.... I predict a sellout
@deadlybunny me too, but 5-7 hours battery? Meh from me.
@NoTroop agreed. The battery life looks horrible, it would be dead by noon.
@NoTroop The battery life is definitely a deal killer. If I have to worry about my watch not making it through a full day then it's too much bother. I could see this ending up in a drawer very quickly.
@NoTroop The Meta website states 5-7 DAYS, not 5-7 hours. I think Meh got it wrong.
@belowi @notroop @deadlybunny typo, should be 5-7 days, not hours.
@cjrhoades yup, saw DAYS as well on the cnet review.
@cjrhoades Yeah, there's no way 5-7 hours is right. 5-7 days is right in line with what my pebble gets.
@deadlybunny @NoTroop @okaytodd @belowi @cjrhoades @derpandabar @aquastardreamer @emmons88 Updated, thanks!
@JonT hint: hopefully the update applies to the Frame model as well since I just ordered one!
@RedOak It does!
@okaytodd buy two!
It's so ugly, it's beautiful.
I haven't bought anything in two months. Just checked my orders. Closing my account when this month ends
@Mehsen sounds like you've made up your mind. We'll be here if you ever wanna check back in. But until then…
No hard feelings!
@Mehsen That's right, if you don't tell 'em they won't learn nuttin.
@Mehsen when you return we will embrace you with open arms.
@okaytodd open baby arms
@Mehsen I'm out of here.... until tomorrow.
@Mehsen
another victim of VMP barely escapes with their wallet! :-(
The next date is.... 5:05pm May 5th?
@Ryaneil That's my take as well.
@Ryaneil May 9th (4 more).
@Ryaneil I'll be there
@Ryaneil and its a fuku not a fuko
@axleman1011 By the moon and the stars in the skies
@Ryaneil like the shadow that's by your side
Aw c'mon. This just screams to be posed on the baby arm!
@sinless Showing the baby arm with the watch would imply that it's baby-arm compatible, but the size difference between the baby arm and the watch would show that it's obviously baby-arm incompatible. Meh wisely avoided the paradox.
No idea why, but in for 1
My first smart watch, yay!
@Bogie me two!
@Kross that makes 3 of us!!
C'MON @JonT DON'T TEASE US LIKE THAT.
It looks like a tamagotchi.
@platojello oooh, time to make a tomigochi game for this and only use it for that. Make all the Apple fan boys cry!
Well, somebody has to read all that crap. It's a dirty job, make Mike Rowe do it.
I'm in if it'll actually send me a message from @jont when the next fuku is!
meta vomits
@Thumperchick lol
I like that it was designed in Texas and Finland.
Dick Tracy had better tech gear in the '40s.
@eyewerks Yeah, but you can have it now!
I read the entire description....
@BillLehecka so fuckin' meta.
It is taking everything I am not to buy this
@JeepDude
@JonT I want to get the hair piece. Where to get one?
@JeepDude
You almost had me.
Until... 5-7 hours of battery life
@okaytodd ditto - thought about getting it to poke fun at my friend who's getting an iwatch - but he'd have the last laugh if I mentioned the battery life.
@ilovereality @okaytodd typo, it should be 5-7 days.
@okaytodd and ponder that 5-7 hour rating being for a virgin battery, not a refurb. But only 15 bucks? I wonder if it could be jump-started in the middle of the day with an external battery pack?
@derpandabar hmm. Several Amazon reviews do mention 5 days for the battery. In for one once @moose or @JonT confirms.
@okaytodd @ilovereality @RedOak confirmed 5-7 days!
@JonT Yay
@RedOak Car battery. Just carry one around with you and zap yourself with it. It won't recharge the watch, but it'll be amusing.
@Charcoalwolfman ... and erotic
I really want to buy, but I just can't charge my watch every five hours. I'm stressed just thinking about it...
@bdeidra typo, should be 5-7 days.
Wait, I got one for this.
meh
is that hours or days? cuz internets sez days
@Lotsofgoats agreed. @jont typo in specs, should be battery life 5-7 days, not hours.
I've been wanting to get a MetaWatch for a quite a while now but no matter what (tried entering all of my dozen credit cards), the order just won't go through.
Any help here?
@JonT
@on @shawn ?
But I already kickstarted the new Pebble what would I do with this?
@bph You got two wrists don't you?
I just read all of that description, thinking there may be something hidden in there. Like some sort of super secret squirrel type of message that would require a super spiffy decoder ring retrieved after cashing in hundreds of cereal box UPC codes...
Now my brain hurts and I can't bring myself to buy the refurbished METAwatch. Even if I only bought it for target practice.
Wait that sounds like a good idea...
Nahhhhh.
I can't believe I stayed up for this shit.
I'm totally curious about the message on the last pic...
'the next fuku date is....'
@adonas Buenas Tardes Amigo.
Ok... Airborne-hysterical-fig...
this is junk isn't it.
@bwoithe It's junk once you throw it out. Until then it's just a useless piece of shit.
I AM STINKY AND I AM GOING TO BUY THAT!
@stinky no but seriously they used my username! Fame!
@Rumple THIEF! I FOUND A THIEF! Wtf, you changed the video after I posted it or the forum glitched out and showed me the wrong video.
frame or the ugly one?
@tz304608 BOTH!
@shortman correct answer
but can it do this?
@wylel Fucking meta
@billymayfield @shawn will hate this!
@billymayfield mehta??
@wylel how did u get mehtification?
@awhosit Meh Alarm by Crapbox if you're on Android, or Midnight Deal by Kiwan Maeng if you're on iOS
@wylel sweet. just installed it, and it's now the only app other than phone calls and text messages that is allowed to alert me.
@eblade I used to run an app that alerted me of products offered by Woot. Imagine that what would be like now.
@Rowsdower like reading today's product description every ten minutes.
@Rowsdower i used to have apps like that, but they all pretty much turned to crap over time, so i stopped bothering. also, i was broke as a joke at the time.
I think this would clash with my Apple Watch.
@ThatsHeadly Is that a clash of the the Titans kind of class?
I need a new watch band. But does refurb mean the "Genuine Leather" band is pre-loaded with some other geek's sweat?
@RedOak good question. I plan on changing mine out for something more panda-oriented anyway, though.
@RedOak on things that end up this cheap, refurb generally means "the returns that looked new and tested good" -- the rest they just garbage.
Exception is if they originally refurbed thinking they were still worth $100+. (I don't think that's the case here)
@snapster thanks - figured as much and bought one last nite, after @JonT confirmed the 5-7 "hour" battery life is really "days". 1,500+ sold as of this morning and not sold out - wow, you folks must have a shipping container full of these!
@RedOak heh, no that was about it. :)
Is the hand model a man or a woman? The smooth skin complexion and lack of hair make me want to say woman but the size of the ring band leads me to believe it's a man hand.
@soomass that's kind of a weird question, and also a kind of backhanded compliment for @Moose.
@soomass -
@soomass I'm a dude and have zero arm hair, I have hair on my legs, but Mother Nature blessed me with smooth arms of seduction.
@soomass See the wrinkles between the first finger and thumb? I would say he is left handed.
@JonT but why male models?
I think it's unfair and cruel of Meh to take advantage of an old lady. I already confessed my gadget habit, and you put this up just when my resistance is lowest, at midnight. Lousy battery life is not a problem, I have a short attention span. I only bought one, though.
@OldCatLady We're going to be the coolest old ladies on the block. Except it will probably overhang my wrist by half an inch.
I kinda want one just for a prop.
I could talk into it when someone is being loud on their cellphone on the train.
It could be a fun toy for a kid.
frame or the ugly one? what the different!?
@tz304608 ugly one is ugly
I don't own a smartphone, so will it work with my phone?
@Kerig3
Not sure why, but I had to get one.
If I've got a Rolex on my left wrist and an Apple Watch Edition on my right wrist, where's this one gonna go?
@awk on your foot duh!
@awk In your keister, a la Captain Koons?
@awk On your "wedding tackle".
@awk put it wherever you still have low self esteem?
@awk I support you on the Rolex as long as it’s not quartz; watch movements are one of the last true mechanical arts.
@awk ;)
5-7 hours of battery life but every where else I read it states 5-7 days of battery life..........which one is right???
@lance6270 seems to be days.
@derpandabar reading the write-up took days.
seems like they did a decent job of supporting it... last firmware update was January this year http://support.metawatch.com/customer/portal/articles/858691-windows-update-instructions
@deadlybunny .. apparently they still sell these models... 129-229. wth?
@deadlybunny And ever since then, mine freezes up every week or so - and I have to wait for the battery to die to un-freeze it. Fortunately, it kills the battery in a day. Normal battery life is 5-7 days. Until the last firmware update it was pretty reliable.
@jcbeckman Sounds like one shouldn't update if they bought one here and hopefully it hasn't already been done in the refurb process.
@iggy71 But of course, then you have to avoid updating the companion app on the iPhone, because it only works with that version of firmware...which means turning off the very nice auto update for all apps. And if you are a new buyer, only the current version of the app is available. So no way out, really.
@JonT you are so cute pulling on our fuku strings you puppet master you..........
After careful analysis with a text diff command, it seems there's no difference between the sections other than Adolf complaining in between. Boo, I was hoping for some easter eggs.
tl;dr Bought one anyway. Might make a nice gift if it comes in a decent refurbished box.
Okay, I know I was talking trash about watches, but for $15 bucks . . .
I am so fucking weak.
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@joelmw NOW! This is an adult toy if I ever saw one! I've waited a long time for this moment!
Don't you guys get it? The 5-7 hours was no typo because we know the battery lasts that many days. Meh knows that, too. So 5-7 feigns a reference to hours when it is actually tipping you off to a DAY. The next FUKU date will be on May 7th.
@jeffdoh Sometimes a typo is just a typo.
A quick Google search reveals that these are hackable. You can display custom stuff on them (via Bluetooth and custom apps) or even write your own firmware (they have msp430 microcontrollers inside and the charging clip is also a programming adapter).
In for 3 for hacking on. Maybe I'll wear one.
@pib I'm a hard-core Pebble user, but at $15 I might give it a whirl and see if it's any good at all. Might also be fun to write stuff for it. I already have a watchface I've written for Pebble.
What is the 3-axis MEMS accelerometer used for???
@WaltC It has a built-in Jerk-o-Meter.
@medz You mean it can count cretins on the internet? That'd be "handy". --- Oh, you mean...
Does anyone know if it is possible to increase the qty after purchasing or if subsequent orders will incur additional shipping costs for non vmp members?
@iamaustin Pretty sure you're charged per order. However, if you already bought one, I think you could cancel the order from your order history page and reorder really quick. Seems to be the simplest way.
@Icegnat I just did that. First order was at 12:28 the new one at 12:58 - as long as its showing up on my order page I should be good as far as not being sold out or anything right?
@iamaustin If it's on your order page, I'd think you're safe. :)
I have offten ordered 1 or 2 and later gone back and ordered more. It works fine and I am never chaged extra for shipping.
@iamaustin a couple thoughts:
1) Even if you don't want to get on the VMP wagon train, if you want to order even a single item it makes sense to sign up for one month since the cost is the same as one-time shipping. Then you're good for free shipping if you find something else in that month. If you don't trust yourself to cancel VMP in a month, do it anytime in that month.
2) There is a "cancel" order link on your order page for up to an hour after you order, so if you want more than one and don't want multiple boxes, you can cancel and reorder more in a single order.
Smart watch but not looks smart.
Great copy. Still not going to buy but entertaining to read about.
For my 10 year old son this is perfect!
Refurb Strata is $50 shipped on amazon (non-prime):
http://www.amazon.com/MetaWatch-MW3005-Smartwatch-iPhone-Android/dp/B00VGQFQXI/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1428640879&sr=1-4
Refurb Frame is $40 shipped on amazon (non-prime):
http://www.amazon.com/MetaWatch-MW3005-Smartwatch-iPhone-Android/dp/B00VGPO38S/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1428640865&sr=1-2
@peterto only $15 dollars here at meh on 04/10/2015 (for future reference )
metawatch was great a few years back when i received my kickstarter original pebble. i havent followed them in a good while, but at $15 i'd definitely love to check two out.
I felt like it's worth $20 to play with this for a few hours.
In for one. And apparently some "abundant-incredible-punishment" as well.
This looks really cool... I really hate wearing a watch though : /
@stoopkid Same thoughts, for the price it's worthy to mess around with, but I'm still passing.
@stoopkid Yeah I kinda want one too, but never wear watches. I was thinking maybe get the frame one and take the strap off and put it on a lanyard or string hung from my desk or something, but, meh... It'll probably sell out or I'll forget about it before I make up my mind.
Nevermind, I guess the frame one already sold out. Saved me $15. Nice...
@Stallion "...for the price it's worthy to mess around with, but I'm still passing."
I like everything the except battery life. Therefore it's a Meh for me this time.
@NormNTexas battery life is a typo - should be days not hours.
What's the battery life on these things, days or hours?
@Ignorant "5-7 days of battery life"
@medz how many hours is that? Thanks.
@Ignorant Do your own math!
@Ignorant lots. lots of hours.
@Ignorant Are you sure you want to know? The answer is Gross (or around 144 : ).
My head itches.
@gertiestn Which one?
@iggy71 Lol
It was a dark and stormy night, and the Captain said to the Lieutenant, "Tell me a ghost story". And the Lieutenant said to the Captain, "It was a dark and stormy night, and the Captain said to the lieutenant 'Tell me a ghost story', and then the lieutenant said to the captain......"
Spent so much time reading description that the good looking watch sold out :(
any GPS notification capabilities?
distance? speed? etc
or turn by turn direction capabilities?
@username Only if someone texts you at home to make 3 right (or left) turns every fixed number of feet/ miles. That will get you home every time.
ok i bought two on the whim. It will go into the pile of electronics that I wanted to hack at some point.
@username I only bought one for that very reason. There are some very active user groups, with many apps available.
@OldCatLady any good link leads? do you know if included clip will work for hacking?
@username The person to ask is @pib, I think.
@OldCatLady @username I just did a Google search for "MetaWatch hacking"
@OldCatLady @username Actually the firmware is open source! https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2
@pib I have no clue how to take advantage of that open source site but probably have just enough experience to brick my new watch. Very cool.
Looks like the Mehta watch sold out.. I didn't need one anyway.
Frame sold out. Strata still available. ashamed-surging-bell
@p3dal Yep, glad I got one...I think.
Returning to my reread of Homestuck now...
Was ready to buy then no more frameh style...
I'm bummed they were sold out of the frame. I still got the strata but it's bulky and too boxy :(
Is the description a reference to Gödel, Escher, Bach, or am I just reading too much into it?
@Zelucifer I definitely think it is and that is fantastic. I love that book !
@Zelucifer i think its referencing mehtamagical themas
I have one of these "reflective mirror display" metawatches. The display is HORRIBLE. There are some lighting conditions where it looks really good, but most of the time it's impossible to see. Like, for example, if you're in an ambiently lit room with lightly coloured walls, which is just about all the time indoors, it is impossible to distinguish the lightly-coloured background from the "mirror reflection" of the lightly-coloured walls.
If anyone wants mine (it's green), get me a message, somehow, and I'll sent it to you for just the price of shipping.
@Chmarr email me eminemjones@gmail.com . do you like paypal?
@communist i like PayPal, but I will not email you
;)
@username are you a fan of google wallet? what about square? and goats?
One to trust unlock my phone would be awesome but my wrists are apparently so damn big I've always broken every single watch band I've ever had.
Gonna have to meh.
So if I understand correctly included Charging clip will not act for Jtag hacking, need a separate $50 connector?
Wow, wanted the Frame version but it's already sold out.
@mikemiller If it makes you feel better, I was able to get one shortly after midnight.
By the way, the display is a monochrome reflective LCD (or similar technology), not LED. I have the Strata and consider it quite readable in most all conditions. Sometimes I have to tilt the watch slightly to improve readability, but have never thought it to be a problem. Great buy!
Meh... I've been considering a Pebble but this? Nah I'm good.
Chose the Strata, confirmation page said I had purchased the Frame. Looking back on the original email after canceling the first order I see the order was correct the first time, sorry about the cancel and reorder. Stoked
I might be more interested if I hadn't gotten a Pebble watch recently -- sale price plus add'l discount for people with .edu email addresses brought it down to a reasonable price. However, $15 for an inferior version does not excite me.
The Frame is sold out? Because the Strata is ugly as all get out.
OK, I bit. I don't want a Smart Watch because I love "real" watches way too much. But kind of love the idea of one. $15 to try the tech out seems like a bargain. I'll love it or hate it, but for that price I can try before spending big. Might convince me to get an Apple Watch when/if they bring out a waterproof version 2.
Went for the Strata because I can wear it in water. Oh yes, and it was the only one left.
I bought a No1 G2 watch from over the pond. It's a colored watch and does more, but it got me hooked on getting notifications on my wrist. Its nice to leave the phone in a pocket and only pull it out for more important notifications. Only downfall with mine is 1 day of battery life. I keep forgetting to charge at bedtime. This will last longer and I don't really need a color screen, all I care for is the notification.
Very sad all the Frames were gone, but grabbed a Strata.
The very minute I chose to buy, it sold out. Meh!
WTF - I am trying to find my credit card and it's sold out. Jeez
When I see the model called the strata all I can think of is Saul of the Mole Men
TL;DR: And nobody's going to read all this crap anyway.
Had a meta Strata for a few months now. It's a great glance watch especially since I'm a Bartender. Make sure you update the software so you get notifications for every app on your phone. It's a great watch. I bought 2 more for spares. Love it.
Also with usage, the battery lasts about 2-3 days...
@wongsicle Petty good. I figure I'll plug 'er in every night along with my phone anyhow.
is @snapster requesting an OS report listing the number of potential sales lost due to the initial 5-7hour typo?
@unixrab Yea, if it wasn't for that typo, they would have sold 1596 of the watches instead of... 1596. Well at least they would have sold them faster.
@unixrab seems like a moot point since we sold out.
@unixrab a truly moot point since the Frames appeared to sell out before 2 am and everything was sold out by morning. At most the "hour" vs. "day" typo was a temporary aggrevation.
It looked like about 300 sold even before the typo was corrected.
@WaltC @jont @redoak :
moot to everyone except those who passed on it and didn't get it. A minor detail, but again, this site does troll tens of thousands of people every FUKU ... I was just curious though. A small detail today could be a big one tomorrow... just a thot
@unixrab That I understand-- the inconvenience to saw the typo & bailed. Your comment was about lost sales; I thought you were making a funny. Sorry. (I never trust the fine print (& it's all fine print to me.))
@RedOak I bought without even looking at the specs. I googled and saw it was made by Fossil, and figured it was decent.
@jofuzz it's made by Fossil??? How do I cancel?
OMG, the watch has its own FB page! https://www.facebook.com/MetaWatch?fref=ts
Dear god Meh. Could you maybe NOT sell out before I get around to checking occasionally? I really do WANT to give you money (for crap I like).
@infornography early sellouts likely convey a message to @snapster, et al... about future product-price selection.
@RedOak As in "Damn, we should have charged more."
@sammydog01 shush. That part was implied but intentionally un-emphasized. But prices are a funny thing - 'hard to put the cat back in the bag after you cool off a deal with luke-warm price. And as @unix... would proudly proclaim, gotta throw some VMP bait into the pond.
@RedOak Nah, they just under price the occasional super cool item to make us all check at midnight every day. Then we buy half asleep because this one might also sell out. And by morning it's too late to cancel. Sneaky.
@sammydog01 I belive that's what happened to Woot.
No Georgia Red. . . for that alone, meh.
@jrwofuga No Pumpkin color :(
Anybody want to trade their frame for a strada? :)
Is anyone going to try dev and hacking this watch? The forums for devs is dead on their site.
@chughes15 Dev and hack is the only reason I got one. Then I ordered a second one for when I brick the first.
@chughes15 Nope. Gonna run it stock, yo.
@chughes15 I'll check out all the apps that others have produced first. If I should get another in a fuku, I would definitely customize the hell out of it.
Whelp, I got the Frame today and charged it for a bit then updated the firmware and arranged/configured some apps on it. After charging a bit more, I unplugged it and tried to put it on. First thing I noticed was the strap was almost too short. (it would be a tight fit) The next thing I noticed was it was missing the metal clasp!
Gone. Hmmm...nowhere to be found in the box...nothin'. I have notified meh support. We'll see where we go from here. Luckily, the strap is replaceable, so I might have to visit a jewelry store and pay more for a new strap/clasp than I did for the watch. We shall see.
@medz Mine showed up today, but I am at work and it is at home (in the mailbox or on the porch or sitting inside on the table (because my son brought it in) I cannot say. But Fedex tells me it was delivered. I am unnaturally excited. It's a damn watch, Joel, just a damn watch. You don't even like watches.
@medz I can probably send you a buckle. When mine shows up tomorrow I'll check the buckle and see if I have one that matches the original in my stock of straps and buckles. I can probably come pretty close to the original. But if not, you can grab a buckle from eBay for a couple bucks including shipping. I'll update you when mine shows up and I see what's on there.
@ruouttaurmind Thanks. None of my old watches had a buckle type strap. I found some replacement straps (with buckle) on Amazon that looked ok for under $10. The buckle by itself was like twice that price. Haven't checked ebay yet. O'course, I'll also have to buy a tool to work with the pins... I had to add a link to an old watch and it took me forever without the proper tools and I nearly lost the spring loaded pin...
@medz Let's see if we can square this away without bothering customer service. Chances are I can help you quite a bit more quickly than they can.
@ruouttaurmind Ok. Let me know. Thanks.
@medz You might want to walk into your local department store (Sears, Penneys) with the watch and ask at the jewelry counter whether they can put a new band on it while you wait. Probably less costly than a standalone jewelry store.
@OldCatLady Good point. I remember getting a battery replaced at a standalone shop once and they charged me $40. (as well as nicked the back a bit)
@medz The standalone kiosks are on -sorry- some watch lists, too. http://www.news4jax.com/news/new-details-emerge-on-local-isis-member/31525904
@medz from the specs: "- Leather strap width: .85in"
Oh, you wanted a buckle too? You didn't really expect that for 15 bucks did you? 'Sorry about those stock pics showing a buckle.
(@medz, you have me worried since I ordered one but it won't arrive until Sat.)
@RedOak I figure it was sent back due to the missing buckle and the refurb shop did what I did and tried all the fun stuff first and deemed it to be working without trying to put it on. "Works great! Box it up and send it out!" Edit: I did win one for cheap on ebay, but it's coming from hong kong...
@medz That's ok. Mine came in today and the display doesn't work. Contacted support but no reply yet. Come on Meh. I didn't want a broken watch.
@geoff_selby I assume you charged it for a while. Make sure the clip is lined up good with the watch's contact points. Does the blue light on the clip come on when it's plugged in?
@medz Yep. Been on the charger since I got it out of the box earlier. Clip is lined up and the blue light is on. The little light at the top of the display works. But the display itself does not.
@geoff_selby boooooo... Why would meh do this to us?! Try holding the middle button on the left (button B) and the middle button on the right (button E) for 10 seconds.
@medz I've tried everything except a full reflash of the firmware.
@medz FedEx Dumb-post/USPS finally came through and I received my Frame today. I can def. match that buckle. Lessee... how to get me your contact info so I can drop it in the mail to you? Meh doesn't support PM's...
@ruouttaurmind Thanks, but ordered a new (longer) band w/buckle from amazon and a really cheap buckle from hong kong via ebay. If neither of those work, i will come back here and take you up on it.
Downloaded the updated firmware, installed the app, and attempted to bluetooth sync the phone. That's when shit hit the fan. Watch totes ma goats froze up and nothing seems to work. Emailed MetaWatch's CS, now we wait.
@studerc I'm having problems connecting mine.. and my battery went down 6% in 7 minutes.
@RicoSuave Same...even for how cheap it was this may be the first purchase i really regret
@studerc I guess we should have all bought 2 so we could swap parts to make 1 fully functional watch.
@studerc My connected and was working. Then I lost connected and two of the little widgets seemed to be in perpetual "loading" mode. I decided to update the firmware. And that's going nowhere.
@studerc Mine is working now.
@studerc Did you hear back about the frozen watch? Because mine is doing the exact same thing right now, two buttons don't help.
my watch is fine... ugly as sin, but it's working. however their firmware updater simply mocks me. it looks like i'm clicking a button but nope... nothing. stuck with 1.5.1
and every time i get a call or text the face reverts back to one that i did not set.... and whenever it connects to the phone it sends me text messages from 3 months ago.
Mine won't be here until tomorrow, and I can't wait to share the pain.
mine works great, suckers
I can't get mine to update the firmware :( no bueno
@bradyson Finally got it to update with the help of everyone thanks @lljk @joelmw @lichme @Lotsofgoats
Mine will not update the firmware either. Windows does not have a driver; tried to update on two machines. Any advice?
@hardyd this worked for me: http://support.metawatch.com/customer/portal/articles/858691-windows-update-instructions
including OSX instructions in case anybody needs that: http://support.metawatch.com/customer/portal/articles/902643-mac-osx-update-instructions
@Lotsofgoats I followed the directions. It didn't work...
@hardyd I had this issue. I went into the device manager in my control panel, and found the USB device with unrecognized driver. I did a driver update, which then warned me that allowing driver updates from windows was blocked. I checked the option to allow the update. After that, I was able to load the new firmware.
For windows 7
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/automatically-get-recommended-drivers-and-updates-for-your-hardware
@hardyd I'll jump on the bandwagon here. There was a warning about not using a USB hub, so I tried every USB port that's integrated into my PC chassis (10) and went ahead and did try it on the USB hub on my monitor and another cable. I tried both ports on the wife's computer. No joy. I've started a conversation with support.
@joelmw @lichme I never actually bothered to find the device. I just plugged the thing in, downloaded the zip from dropbox, ran the exe and it found my watch without issue. Bummer that it's being a problem for so many people :\
@hardyd @bradyson Got this from support. It fixed my problem. http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
@joelmw Thanks, I tried that too, but it didn't work. (I'm running a Mac.) I've decided not to stress about the firmware, for now anyways. Its syncing up with my phone and is somewhat functional and fun... MEH
@joelmw Thanks, this fixed my problem.
@joelmw came here to post that too :)
@Lotsofgoats I couldn't get the update to work on my Macbook running 10.10. The app would load, I would click the button, it would prompt me for my password, then NOTHING. Got to work this morning and downloaded the PC version, plugged it in and it updated in the time it took me to write this comment.
@bradyson I ended up using a PC at work to do the update when my Macbook failed to do so.
I am not happy..
No charging clip with the package.
Watch is not starting up as well...sigh..
I think this purchase was a mistake..
@Mrinal the battery in mine was stone dead. without charging it wouldn't turn on and even after being plugged in a while it would die as soon as it was disconnected.
@daytonatrbo mines had the same problem. if you contact metawatch directly, they'll send a replacement :)
@ishoppe247 after being plugged in for a few hours, the battery came to life and the battery life has been excellent. I ran it it for 6 days on the first charge.
Meh'd a watch. Then I noticed it says 4S as the oldest iPhone supported. My broke-ass iPhone 4 and I might be out of luck :-/ but I'll try it anyway. No regrets!
No luck with the iphone 4 so far. Can't even find any jailbreaky things to do to it. Whoops.
@RDW0409 That's a hardware problem, unfortunately. These watches require Bluetooth Low Energy, which is something that was part of Bluetooth 4.0. The iPhone 4 was manufactured to the Bluetooth 2.1 specification, so no amount of jailbreaking and hacking can help you here. Sorry.
@lljk Well dang. Thanks for letting me know before I got too far down the rabbit hole. I passed it off to my brother, who's got a 4S. He seems to be having fun with it anyway.
@RDW0409 the rabbit hole goes deeper, don't stop now! Your MetaWatch hardware can communicate via Bluetooth 2.1; however, the current watch firmware doesn't support it. If you're up for spelunking though the source code (https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2 ) you might be able to reactivate the watch hardware's BT2.1 support and get it to talk to your "broke-ass" phone. In fact, there might be an older commit in that repository (history https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2/commits/master ) that contains BT2.1 compatibility. This article from The Verge points out that the schism occurred in May, 2012: http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/22/3036249/metawatch-bluetooth-40
Mine updated the firmware and I have it synched to my android phone. I also have Windows phone which won't work with it (OR much of anything) but I have had no issues. Bummed for everyone who has.
Here's a link I got from Meta support to update the drivers. It actually worked and I was able to complete the firmware update.
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
Unfortunately, I'm still having connection issues, but at least I know that I've got the latest firmware.
Rebooted my iPhone, reconnected and it appears to be working. Woohoo! I'm gonna leave it on the defaults for a while, lest I fuck it up again.
Heh. I'm getting text messages and a few other updates on my wrist. I kinda like this dweeby little device. I'm such a dork.
@joelmw right? this thing is ugly af (in the best way possible) and all the little widgets and notifications are great
@Lotsofgoats Totally retro chic. Reminds me of a couple of LCD and LED watches I had when I was a teenager (and that was ever so long ago). You can clearly see the pixels (I'm gonna do my best to pass it off as as nostalgic styling and not just outdated), like on those 8-bit and 16-bit games some folks are into. Hell, all it's missing is the midi. The little cartoon bubble for messages and notifications kills me. And the music player interface is disturbingly surreal anachronistic. Yaknow, what this needs is a steam punk watch band--which would certainly cost two or three (or more) times what I paid for the watch. What the fuck? Yeah, I have to say, this watch was definitely worth the $15--maybe not much more, but definitely worth the 15. :-D
@joelmw Received Watch and it paired fine with my LG Lucid. I tried to update the firmware..failed on the first 3 pc's but completed on using a Acer Laptop so the computer being used to update the firmware may not like the firmware software. It took the 1.5.5 just fine and now watch is working meh. Earlwallace
The firmware updater hasn't been working for me either (and I'm a Mac user). I'm still happy since one, the watch was 15 bucks, two, the watch still works just fine, and three, MetaWatch support actually got back to me a day after I emailed them.
Thanks for selling this in the first place, Meh, I'm loving it.
I got it resolved with the help of MetaWatch support. To anyone in the same boat as me, the Dropbox link to the Mac updater also has a link to previous versions. Download the 1.5.3 and 1.5.5 updaters, get the firmware file out of the 1.5.5 updater (right-click and show package contents and dig around for a bit, it's named G2-104000.a43), then open the 1.5.3 updater and drag and drop G2-104000.a43 onto the 1.5.3 updater window. That worked for me. (I'll provide more detailed instructions in another post if anyone needs them.)
@lljk This is the only thing I could get to work, thank you for posting this. The path once you Show Package Contents is Contents/Resources/G2-104000.a43
@lljk This finally worked after multiple attempts. Thanks!
@lljk Thanks. That did the trick!
@lljk Hey! Thanks for this! Hadn't looked into updating yet and stumbled on this first. Took me two tries (my fault, messed the USB clip up) but worked great!
@lljk Still did not work. Using the 1.5.3 updater, instead of having nothing happen at all, I got "looking for the watch, 23s" and then an error message saying to unplug the USB, plug it in, and try again. Doing so just gives the error again.
@edheil Same for me :(
@pernst I got it updated by using a Windows machine
@lljk I just got the watch in my Fuku. This helped so much! Thanks for posting :)
Got mine yesterday, and it has been great so far!
Updating the firmware was completely painless for me. I plugged the clip into my computer (Win 8.1), Windows automatically installed drivers, updater app found the watch right away and updated me from firmware 1.5.1 to 1.5.5.
Then installed the MetaWatch manager app to my Android phone (Note 2 w/ Android 4.3) and the phone synced right up to the watch without any issues.
For $15 I'm quite happy. I now wish I had bought a couple more to give to other people.
@kasona same experience here with Win7+iOS. MetaWatch has also released a full set of source code for their watches at https://github.com/MetaWatchOpenProjects/MetaWatch-Gen2 .
This was a poor purchase decision, came right out of the box with a busted screen, and the inside of the watch band is all gunked up with the previous owners arms sweat residue/ skin/oils
@dustinbikes I cant complain about the watch itself, mine seems to work fine. I WANT to complain about the total lack of hygiene of the watch I got... the irreplaceable watch band is gross... Im thinking of dipping this thing on bleach....for the last two hours I have used an iphone sim removal tool to clean my watch and there is still some gunk in there.... Is there a way I can get this exchanged for a cleaner one? I feel like Im using someone elses dirty underwear!
The magic number is three. D/L the firmware update, d/l the driver fix, detect watch on 3rd try, d/l the app from the Play Store, detect Bluetooth device, pair, enter 0000. Reboot phone and watch in between each step, and on the third iteration of everything, it's set up. Note that the firmware update does indeed fix the '93%' battery charge indicator, so now it says 100%. Off to play with my new toy!
Based on the first hour of use, I'm afraid the battery life on the Strata I received will be MUCH shorter than has been stated. It dropped to 88% after just 1 hour? Wonder if it's possible to replace the battery?
@spectra242 Ixnay that comment. The battery % indicator is for my iphone. DERP! Now I have to see why my phone is draining so quickly!
@spectra242 you can see the watch battery by pressing the bottom left button!
@spectra242 your phone battery is bound to drain faster due to being paired with this smart watch!
Firmware updated, both phone and watch indicate they are synced via Bluetooth, but the app won't go past the pairing screen. Rebooted, re-flashed and re-synced everything, but the issue persists. Anyone else having this issue?
@frog What phone and phone OS are you using?
@frog Yes, and after about three reboots, I figured out how to work the app. After you've paired, you need to restart your phone and THEN start the app. On the app on the smartphone, top right three-dot menu, under settings, go to 'reset widget layout', which removes all the widgets so you can select new ones. I reboot my phone every 3rd time I make major resets to the layouts, just because. Touch and hold a widget on one of the 'phone face' screens to remove it. Swipe to get to the next screen of widgets. The full-screen clock widget takes up one full screen, etc. After you're done dinking with widgets you can exit the app, or be safe and restart the phone. I just spent a two-hour meeting inconspicuously (perhaps) checking my incoming email, weather and calendar by looking at my wrist instead of hauling out my phone. I am such a nerd.
@lljk iPhone 5S running iOS 8.2.
@OldCatLady No luck with the reboots. Are you using iOS or Android?
@frog Android.
@frog That's weird. I have the same phone as you, though I installed iOS 8.3, and I've had no trouble with the app. Maybe try reinstalling the app?
@OldCatLady Since you seem to have this thing nailed, do you know if it can do an iphone step counter? I read something about a 5s, but I have a 5.
@sammydog01 Sorry, I only know Android, and my watch was totally functional with the correct charger. There are IOS how-to documents, but it looks to me like about 2/3 of users are Android. Besides that, I don't like the sports widgets, the Rays and Miami don't win their games if I run them. It has nothing to do with the teams, I'm sure it's the widgets. Maybe I need to go sacrifice a goat or something?
@OldCatLady Or @carl669? Thanks for the answer.
@sammydog01 just for that...
Here is what the inside of a charger clip with a USB connector broken off looks like.
My son and I both bought watches. His USB connector came off the PCB and took some of the copper traces with it. I am going to try soldering a USB cable to the other ends of those traces, and see if I can make it work that way. Until then, we will take turns with my good charger.
His charger was making intermittent contact, so he tried pushing a little harder on the connector. One of the traces must have already been broken, and it didn't take much force to separate the rest.
I'm still charging mine, so I haven't done anything with it yet.
@hamjudo For those who want to try this themselves. The outer contacts are the cable shield. The 5 inner contacts, with the board as shown above, from left to right are: Black (GND), not connected (ID), Green (D+), White (D-), Red (+5V). The fat side of the connector is closest to the board.
@hamjudo Thanks for the pictures & information!
@hamjudo does not work. On my first try the ground wire broke off. I think power went through the wrong parts and fried something. It doesn't work with all of the wires in the right place.
@hamjudo Tried again. It charges now.
Note the "+" and "-" in the above picture. I flipped the board over and soldered a red wire to the pin with the "+", and a black wire to the "-" pin. I ran those wires outside of the clip. I soldered those wires to the red and black wires in a USB cord. Obviously, it isn't useful for upgrading the firmware, but it charges.
My battery is only good for a little over two days. So I need to charge it fairly often.
@hamjudo kudos on on your bulldogging the issue. The battery on mine seems so go 5 days. But perhaps you're seeing a lot more notifications or using yours as a media control. I'm less happy with how it sucks down my phone battery.
@RedOak It could be the pedometer. One day it said I walked 13k steps. (I spent a few hours walking behind a self propelled lawnmower, I think the watch picks up vibrations from the mower, and interprets them as steps. So the count may be inflated.) I also have it display seconds.
More likely the battery is getting old or was abused. I am afraid I will damage the seals if I replace the battery. I swim with the watch in our meter deep back yard swimming pool.
@hamjudo wait!?! I almost recalled the Strata had better water protection (and not a Leather band like the Frame). But pedometer? Does it do that? Don't recall seeing that feature on my Frame or in the description for the Strata.
Although with the included 3-Axis accelerometer it seems plausible. Is that part of the hardware sitting idle?
@RedOak mine counts steps, but i don't know if the phone (app) is counting or the watch
@medz aha - you must have something other than an iPhone 5. I believe the step counter started with the 5s. So you are seeing those steps via the phone just like any other notification enabled on the phone.
@RedOak i have a nexus 5. I think it's an included widget with the android version of the metawatch app. See the Steps Today choice in this screenshot.
@medz I don't know the android version, but seeing gmail on that list, I wonder, is the steps thing a MW widget or a function on your Nexus simply sending notifications to the MW? In other words, is there a quadrant of one of the 4 screens on your MW dedicated to "Steps" - or do notifications pop up on the MW?
@RedOak dedicated quadrant
@medz @RedOak The app is using the sensors in my Nexus 5 Android phone. I walked around the kitchen table long enough for it to calibrate and start counting steps. Then I took my phone out of my pocket and set it on the table. It stopped counting. I put the phone back in my pocket, and put the watch on the table. It started counting again while I walked around the table without wearing the watch.
The Nexus 5 has a hardware pedometer, many Android phones do not. You can write an app that monitors the accelerometers and acts as a pedometer in software, but that will wake up the CPU several times per second and kill your battery.
interesting. The Fit app on my Nexus 5 says I've walked only 2500 steps while the app on my Smart Watch says 3000 steps. ... I have a desk job.
@medz @RedOak I've seen my Strata step counter as much as 50% above what Google Fit reports. The more starts and stops, the further off it seems to be. I did an experiment today. I didn't carry my phone with me until I mowed the lawn. Google Fit reports 5,733, my watch reports 5,723 steps. They are pretty close on long steady walks, and sometimes way off on the short ones.
Here is a high level description of the step counter, it seems odd that two apps could read it differently: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/kitkat.html#44-sensors I am guessing that the MetaWatch app is just as buggy handling steps as it is handling text messages. I get some texts twice, some once, some not at all.
@medz @RedOak Researching further, I see that there are two different software interfaces to that hardware, and there is a warning that they can give different results. https://developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/Sensor.html#TYPE_STEP_COUNTER
The detector is real time, but not always accurate (noisy). The counter data is somewhat delayed, but cleaned up.
Uh, am I just retarded or what? I can't seem to actually clip the charger onto the watch so that the contacts line up. Is there some trick to it? I've been trying for like ten minutes. Haha. The clip just doesn't seem like it actually fits..
@tallergeese The Strata charger fits on the Frame, but the Frame charger doesn't fit on the Strata. Compare the profile of your charger clip with the one shown as the accessory to both models (the marvels of photo shop). If you've got a Frame, and the charger doesn't look like the one in the picture, that's your problem.
@hamjudo yeah, that seems to be the problem... Thanks for the help!
Just got mine today and finally got it charged up and set up. Gotta say I was having issues until I updated to the newest firmware 1.5.5 but doing so was easy. Can't believe they ever sold these for $200, I think $15 is reasonable for what you get. The display is not well explained anywhere and needs to be experienced in person to truly understand how Mirror-like it really is.
@Shuttlevvorth the mirror display does have a silver lining (ha, ha) - your notifications are relatively private unlike when those notices pop up on a Pebble watch! (one Redditor described wearing a Pebble watch out on a date with A. Midway through dinner with A, a text arrive from a later date B about being delayed. A read the text before the redditor could dismiss it and A was not happy to learn about the redditor's second date that night!)
Can. Not. Update. Firmware. Even using the solutions (like using the 1.5.3 updater with 1.5.5 firmware) given in this thread. Super frustrated.
@edheil Same here. The program doesn't detect the watch at all. But it charges it.
@ninjaboyhya If you can get ahold of a Windows machine, use that. It totally worked for me.
@edheil Using a windows machine.
@ninjaboyhya figured it out. The clip was broken. Fortunately I ordered 3, and one of the other clips actually worked.
@edheil for future update attempters (I delayed until I realized the update included caching 4 notifications) . . . On several of our Windows (7) machines they refused to recognize the watch. By that, I mean they seemed to realize there was a USB device connected, but would not "connect" in the Updater software.
It finally worked after I left the watch connected to the PC for many minutes - and waited for the full driver to auto-install (don't recall the name but it was unusual). Then I started the Updater software on the PC and it worked.
This thing never charges beyond 60% and half the buttons stick. Press a button, it goes in... and doesn't pop back out unless I eff with it for a few seconds. Push, jiggle, push again, wiggle... eventually the button will pop back out.
And DAMN that display is hard to see!!!
@ruouttaurmind Yeah, the buttons are kind of annoying. Some are worse than others. Wonder if there's anything we can do for that.
On the display, I've noticed that in most conditions (which, oddly doesn't have to do with the quantity of light, but with its quality?) it's great, but there are a few types of light (and I haven't pinned it down, but it generally happens in certain locations within my house) in which I basically can't see it unless I rotate it to just the right angle.
mine looks new, leather nice and clean but yea the mirror display.... WTF were they thinking. I still like it though for $15
OK, got it updated using the Windows updater after many failures using the OS X updater. Time to give this baby a chance....
OK so now I'm kind of digging it but man, the thing is tight on my wrist, I have to use the last notch on the strap. Wish I'd gotten a frame instead of a strata so I could swap out the band! But they were all out.
Bought two watches. One of the charging clips does not work. The LED will not light up when it's plugged in. The other one works fine.
Not sure how to proceed with this. Charging clips are $20 from the Metawatch store. I would use one clip with both watches but they are gifts and will not be in the same physical location.
I know Meh doesn't have a bunch of extra clips lying around . . . and I don't want to return the watch . . . hmm, what to do.
@defibrillator Condition: Refurbished Warranty: 1 Year Meta contact meh.com/support and meta support too. see what they say
Got Mine, working well once upgraded to firmware 1.5.5. The 3rd party audio support is worth upgrading to 1.5.5 alone.
One question, anyone know how to close / dismiss notifications?
I found the Soft / Hard Reboot of holding down both middle buttons will work but is over kill...
Anyone know of any other button shortcuts or hidden features?
@kcimpulse notifications are automatically closing after a few moments for me. No need to take action. If you want them gone faster, have you tried toggling the top right button?
Got mine, charged it, and eventually upgraded the firmware. All seems to work well, but I don't get notifications for text messages. Also, my email always says 0 messages. Any ideas on how to fix these?? Notifications work because when I leave the house, my cam picks up the motion and I get the notification on my wrist. That's kind of a neat notification to get.
@derek17j seems like I had to turn on text messages on separately... In the app, go into the notifications area where you can allow individual apps. Make sure your texting app is allowed.
@derek17j I don't even have an email widget...
@medz Thanks. I turned on text messages and also in the notifications, choose metafilter, and then show more. In here I found a mail that was unchecked. Once checking it I now get mail.
Tips I would have found helpful upon opening the box: (I'm using it with an iPhone)
- Go to the support page on the pink card in the box (support.metawatch.com) and print the brief "Getting Started Guide".
- Make sure the notifications for anything you want reported on the watch are turned on in your phone Notifications settings.
- Perhaps it is obvious to many folks, but the Metawatch app must be running at all times (not just for setup/config) you want the watch to work. Bluetooth alone does not do the job.
- There is a little cell phone icon with an "X" next to it that will show up on the watch display if your phone is not properly connected to your phone. Cycling the phone Bluetooth off and on seems to work.
- As others have said, that mirror display takes some getting used to. You can play around with the inverse screen settings. The smallest font text on the watch is almost impossible to easily read with my middle-aged eyes, even with reading glasses.
- Haven't felt the need to update the firmware yet. I'm one of those if it ain't broken, don't break it people.
- I'm glad I paid only 15 bucks for it. Not sure how long this smart watch experiment will last on my wrist.
One more thing: - Not many widgets available - think of this watch as a vibrate and show me notifications but not much more.
@RedOak I really like the music controls too, although I wish they'd work with apps like Pandora etc.
@RedOak The firmware update gets you a few more widgets. (mostly sports, I think)
@Lotsofgoats I use Pandora a lot more than music stored on my phone, so that would have been nice.
@medz Thanks for the info - sports info on the watch would not be enough to get me to move.
@RedOak Specifically, the 1.5.5 release notes list "Third-party music controls" as an added feature. I have a noise generator app on my phone and my watch can start and stop it now that I'm on 1.5.5.
@RedOak I like the display. Shiny! And shiny fishes!
I just got mine. I tried connecting it to my phone and the app, and it connected successfully, but then every time it goes into a reset loop. I've tried updating the firmware (using both the 1.5.5 and 1.5.3 updaters), but both fail to find the watch.
@ninjaboyhya Did you by any chance configure the watch to use one of the full-screen clock faces? The last two (the city skyline and the one with the big hours and small minute numbers) only work with the latest version of the firmware. If your watch isn't on 1.5.5 and you use the app to set one of those faces, the watch will freeze for a few seconds and then crash. If that is set as the default screen on the watch then I suppose it'd get caught in a loop.
@lljk I didn't do any custom configuration. But maybe the app sets one of those by default? I'll see if I can remove all widgets before the reset loop resets it. Any tips on updating the firmware?
@lljk Tried removing all the widgets. Still goes into a reset loop and I cannot update the firmware.
So, has anyone else tried pushing the face as though it's a touch screen and there's more information lurking behind the absurd simplicity of what it does show? All day the first day I had it. And still I sometimes catch myself doing it.
This also happens with computer monitors.
Of course my wife's new laptop does have a touchscreen display. Holy fuck am I ever confused.
Hey, just a note -- I got it updated (by going to Windows), got it paired, and it's working great, doing what it's supposed to do. A damn fine piece of equipment for $15.
@edheil Need moar widgets. Now.
@OldCatLady AGREED
is the difference between 1.5.5 and 1.5.3 described somewhere?
does 1.5.5 give you more face options? default one is a bit ugly
@username The patch notes for different firmware versions are bundled with the firmware installer. And yes, 1.5.5 does add two more full-screen clock faces.
Just wanted to say mine looks fine and not gross, I was able to update the firmware (failed on Mac but succeeded on windows 8), and it's working pretty great. I mean, it's kind of limited due to not having a ton of apps, but for the price I freaking love this thing.
@CurtainGuy Likewise. I bought the Strata and took it bike riding yesterday and it was awesome. Controlled my tunes, the mirrored display is incredibly visible outside. Super happy with it. I had an old android screen protector lying around and cut one to fit because as tall as the Strata is, I think the screen will get scratched pretty quick and it's such a sweet looking screen. Since it's so small compared to a phone, the protector didn't bubble up at all and is invisible. If anyone hacks some new widgets, post some links baby! Feeling pretty half full today Meh!
@sctthrrmn That's a great idea. Would you please help me find where I stored the spare screen protectors I bought two years ago? They're in my house. Somewhere logical. Not in the box with the extra cables, or USBs, or chips. @Carl669, where did you put them?
@OldCatLady logical you say....? Then clearly they're located inside the spare toaster oven you bought on Woot! as a fire-proof document safe.
@OldCatLady did you check the bottom of the cat litter pan? i'm pretty sure i lined it with them.
@CurtainGuy their kickstarter campaign claims a native bike/running app. did anyone find it yet?
btw, has anyone taken it apart yet? i have a feeling the mirror background can be taken out or replaced with something dark, then it will look any other LCD display.
@username there's a teardown of the Frame on sparkfun: https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/metawatch-teardown-and-arduino-hookup
@carl669 yep, doesn't look like it will be easy. seems like mirror part is one with the display
I just got my watch and my buttons don't seem to worK. I thought it was frozen but I saw the time Change along with my phone. Anyone else have the same Issue
@charleshamel73 I just got mine and have been charging it for two hours. Mine looks to be doing nothing, just like yours.
@conandlibrarian hey conan. I fixed it somehow by opening it up. Removing the main module and clicking each of the 6 buttons on the watch frame and the 6 metal inputs on the module itself. Make sure to remove the battery(circular black thing) to not fry it. After i put it back together, it may not turn on so just dock it to restart the watch and the buttons should work.
Meh support got back to me regarding the missing buckle. In the mean time, peep this kick ass substitute watch band. If you thought the watch was sexy before, hold on to your nips... Boom!
Black stainless steel. For the extra geeky look.
@medz Oh man that looks awesome, I'm going to buy a new band today
@medz my nips are quite held
@Lotsofgoats glad someone caught that
@medz should come in handy since that leather band does not seem very durable anyway.
The biggest reason I bought this watch was so that I can keep my iPhone in my pocket and control the volume of the Music app without having to remove it. I got my watch today, updated it on the computer (which I was worried about after hearing horror stories, but it went fine), and got it all set up exactly how I like it. But for some reason I cannot get this watch to control my music. It shows the song listed, it shows the buttons, and it animates the icons when I hit the buttons, but it will not control my phone. I'm super annoyed because the main reason I bought this watch is the only feature I cannot get to work. Is anyone else having trouble with iPhone's Music app and this watch controlling it?
@melancholysp I gave it a brief run with the music app and it worked fine as I recall. Even better, I can control volume, pause and resume play and skip ahead with TuneIn. I assume I can do the same with Podcasts and Spotify (my two next most frequent sound apps), though I haven't tested yet.
@melancholysp Make sure you go to Firmware 1.5.5 and it works 90% of the time will all music players. However i do see it become un-responsive and i need to reboot the watch. Thank god its so easy to reboot by holding the 2 middle buttons for like 10 seconds. Once i reboot it the music playback works without issue allways.
Aaaand the second day I wear it, it freezes up and will not reset or anything. I don't have the charger with me at work so I can't try recharging it, but it shouldn't need a charge yet.
Dammit, I was starting to really like this thing.
@edheil Does holding in the two middle buttons for 5-10 seconds reboot it?
@lichme no, no response to that "two finger salute" nor to holding the top right button down either.
@edheil As far as I read, the next step would be to connect the charger to get it to reboot itself. Hopefully that works for you when you get home.
@lichme The thing where you hold down the three righthand buttons while clipping and unclipping the charger repeatedly ACTUALLY WORKED. Well, kind of. The watch rebooted and became responsive again, but the image it was stuck on all day is now burned into the screen, and the current contens of the screen are faintly visible behind it. Maybe this will get better with time?
@edheil Try holding all three buttons on the right side down for 5+ seconds to reboot it.
I got mine yesterday and I must say it looked decidedly watchlike but I didn't play with it because a gps for the rv came in and I spent all nite mucking with it. Don't know why I bought the watch, I'm surrounded by clocks all day and never wear one.
@cranky1950 Because it's a geek toy?
@cranky1950 I can help take it off your hands for the purchase price+shipping if you don't want it.
I got mine, works and installed fine.
- Get the user manual, if you haven't already See bottom for Downloads . Says what the buttons are for, for one thing.
- I don't have a smart phone, but the iPad handles the MWM app fine (for setup-- clearly I can't walk around everywhere with a WiFi iPad on me).
- I like the stock widget app. It works great for stock symbols, I haven't figured out how to make it work with indices (DJIA, SP500, etc.). I could use the ETF versions of those, but that doesn't tell me what the real index values are.
@WaltC Looks like Yahoo tickers, but I can't get the Dow working. NASDAQ: ^IXIC, S&P: ^GSPC
@WaltC use Yahoo finance symbols for the Metawatch, so SP500 = ^spx or ^gspc NASDAQ = ^IXIC DOW=^DJI
@wonderfish Thanks, I'll try those. I tried ^DJI without luck, but I didn't try the others.
@sctthrrmn Thanks too. Did you actually get ^DJI to work? That's the first one I tried & it didn't seem to work for me.
@wonderfish @sctthrrmn ^spx & ^ixic work fine, so that's a big step forward. The dow's still a "work in progress"! -- thanks again!
@WaltC Just tried ^DJI and it's not working on mine either. Did you have ^DJI on the watch during market hours? Sometimes I've had symbols act strangely after the session close. It is strange.
@WaltC funny, now the ETF I had in place before running the ^DJI test is showing up N/A also. I'm thinking ^DJI will likely work if you leave it up through an open session.
@sctthrrmn ^DJI doesn't during trading either. ^DJX does (1/100 the value of ^DJI (with a little jitter)). I found some mention about DJ not allowing intraday quotes by yahoo. Perhaps that's it.
@WaltC Definitely strange @ ^DJI, my ETF came back online when the market opened. Thanks for the ^DJX tip.
@sctthrrmn This has now stopped working for me
The MetaWatch Community Edition app seems to have disappeared from the Play Store. Is it not supported anymore? Can we only rely on the official stuff now?
@tallergeese go to this link and you will find the apk to do a manual install.https://github.com/benjymous/MWM-for-Android/downloads/
Warning: the app freezes with firmware version 1.5.3 and 1.5.5 and haven't tested it on much else.
@charleshamel73 it looks like support/development on that ended few years ago
Got mine today. Charged it up and it seems to be working great. Leather band had some seams in it from previous use but otherwise the watch looks flawless to my eyes.
Only complaint is that I can't seem to log into Twitter from the MetaWatch Manager app on my Samsung Galaxy S6. Every time I try to click the "Sign into Twitter" button in the settings menu the app crashes.
@The_Tim same problem here on Google nexus 6. I wonder if it's an android 5.1 thing. Work around for me is to enable text alerts for twitter
I will say now that I have used it for a few days I don't want to go back. I can check the texts while driving instead of digging it out of my pocket. When I get home I toss my phone on the table or when I watch tv I place it on silent. I now can just glance at my watch to see my alerts, so I know if it's Clash of Clans or a text message. I already saved me from missing an important call when I was in another room and the phone was left on silent.
@StrangerDanger getting alerts while showering :D the future is here.
If you guys dont have music on your phone and use a music streaming service, spotify is compatible with the watch. Just go into the manager and select spotify as the preferred music application.
@charleshamel73 if I had known this it may have convinced me to buy one of these goofy things!
@JonT Also works great when you have an infamous speaker doc and want to change the song, pause ect.
@JonT Clearly you all need to get another supply of them, then. ;-) (Seriously, in the week or so that I've been wearing my MetaWatch, I've already got two family members who have said they'd like to buy one from Meh if it ever comes up again.)
@charleshamel73 this is the interesting part, since Pebble is not natively compatible with Spotify (needs an extra app), but i think Meta works because it has "always on" meta app running. Pebble has some service, but the app doesn't need to be up and running 24/7 for connection
Any iPhone users gotten the music controls to work? Everything else seems to be working perfectly on mine except for that. Great purchase!!
@dajim92 Are you playing music from anything other than the default music app? If you are, update your watch to 1.5.5, as apparently something in that version of the firmware made it work with third-party audio-playing apps. If your watch is up to date, however, then I'm not sure how to help.
@dajim92 I swear it was working with TuneIn, but seems to have stopped. Someone said something about rebooting the watch. I would imagine the controls are just the universal controls so they should work with most audio apps on the iPhone (that support those controls, e.g., on the lock screen, ear phone buttons, etc.).
@dajim92 @lljk And indeed, I just rebooted the watch. Music controls work in TuneIn, Spotify, Podcast Player.
Update: Working! Reboot fixed the problem :)
Anyone had luck getting MWM CE to work with the latest firmware? And using the community add-ons?
Well today at lunch I found the Noah version of MWM CE and ran it briefly - seemed to work. Had to reset it first. More later.
Okay guys and gals - the Noah version sets up fine but the watch locks up when yoiu hit a button and none seem to work. This using 1.5.5 firmware. Bummer, but the "Official" MWM works pretty slick anyways! I traveled betwwen buildings at work the last two days, separating myself from my phone and each time when i got in range the watch locked on to the phone right where it left off! :)
i am going to try downgrading to 1.5.1 and use the Noah version. I will let yoiu know how it goes...after I replace my bathtub water controls. :(
So I downgraded to 1.5.1 and ran Noah edition of CE and it worked fined. I just wasn't impressed so I upgraded back to 1.5.5 . I will play with the straight CE version someday, but AFAIK Noah was supposed to be a step better. :)
I again downgraded to 1.5.1 and tried the straight CE version. It works well and has a lot of potential for improvement. Any Mehrican out there want to take this on for a project? Who's with me on this? :)
So my watch is in a constant reboot loop, basically every 10-30 seconds it will turn off and back on.
I've tried to update it but get the "no response on ping" error, on windows side it just queries and goes back to the query button (and coincidentally my watch will restart in the middle of this)
Hard resetting by holding both middle buttons or holding the 3 on the right and plugging/unplugging with the charger will reset the watch, but it immediately goes back into the boot loop.
Stuck on 1.5.1
Anyone have any ideas? Or am I stuck with a paperweight?
@andyyri Mine did that when bluetooth was enabled until I updated to 1.5.5 using the 1.5.3 updater. Since then, it has worked perfectly.
Got my watch today. Charged it, updated it to 1.5.5, linked it, and played around with it for about 20 minutes. Has anyone looked around, or found any custom watch faces for the full screen watch? I know that there were some on the pre-loaded app, but I was hoping there might be a way to add more.
@Bogie What I did was 'delete all widgets', then add back the ones you want. For the full screen watch face, you have faces with fish, skyline, etc. when you customize it.
@OldCatLady I am aware of all that. I was hoping for more customized faces other than skyline, fish, logo, Chinese, etc.
@Bogie I've seen references to user sites etc. for the Pebble, and I hope to find similar for this. There are some things in the AppStore but I haven't d/l any yet. Maybe this weekend,
I'm liking my watch, but I sure wish there were other iPhone apps and more widgets.
I've been using the watch for a week now, and am pretty impressed by it.
Battery life seems to be better than I expected, surprisingly. I charged the watch Sunday night, took it off of the charger Monday morning. Now it's Friday, almost 4.5 days later (105 hours), and the battery meter is at 52%.
I've grown to like getting all my phone notifications on my wrist.
- It lets me keep my phone on silent all the time without missing anything.
- It might be helping my phone battery life as well, since I'm not turning my phone on just to check notifications anymore.
- The music play controls have been convenient too, though I wish it would show the currently playing song/artist when I'm using Spotify. The buttons work great, but the watch screen just shows "Song Name" and "Artist."
@kasona unscientific battery experience for me. . . the watch seems to last about 5 days before dropping to 20%. The watch appears to suck up about 10-20% of my phone battery life each day.
@kasona Spotify works for me, i wonder if this is because i installed Spoticast to make it work with Pebble as well. i think the issue is Spotify's closed API
@kasona if you're ios there is probably equivalent: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nop.spoticast&hl=en
@kasona I use both Milk and Pandora and they both work. When I use my own music on my phone it shows the title and artist. :)
How do you turn OFF (shutdown) the watch? Nowhere in the PDF does it explain!
I also had problems with firmware update on Mac, Win8 worked fine.
Not bad at all for $15. Watch looked like new.
@b55er As far as I know, there's no way to turn the watch off, short of letting the battery run dry. If you are going to be away from your phone for long periods of time then you can save power by disabling Bluetooth (press the bottom-right button to open watch settings, then press the top-right button to enable or disable Bluetooth).
@lljk Amazing that there would be no off switch. How could Meta sell a battery powered consumer electronic device with no off switch?
From what I know of FCC regs, there has to be a way to turn off (or unpower) a class B computing device (which this is), not just BT, but the whole device.
Okay so it pairs with my Nexus 5 well, and I do get to see that I received texts and phone calls, but the buttons don't seem to do anything. I can't even hit the light-on button, which seems like it would work independently of the software support. Is my watch faulty or is Android support really that bad?
@Dash So the problems came with the Frame edition. I also ordered the Strata, and decided to bust it open and see if it had the same issue. Waiting for it to charge up but the backlight does turn on at will with the top left button so I am assuming my Frame buttons are just faulty(unless someone has some sort of software based solution to throw at me). I do prefer the classy look of the Frame so I'll be contacting whoever I need to get a replacement.
@Dash i would say the light button would be independent from any software problems. Hardware problem for sure. Edit: I too have the nexus 5 and the Frame version of the watch. Buttons work for me. Sometimes it will lose connection to watch and I have to re-pair it via Bluetooth. Other than that, works good.
I feel like I'm the only person who has had zero issues and actually likes this device. Am I alone in this?
@tnywatkns You are not alone in this. The folks at MacNewsNetwork got one of these Meh units and appear to not have had any issues.
@tnywatkns Mine has been perfect except for one freeze up which I had to remove the battery to fix. However, I have been using the watch since Wednesday of last week without charging, and my battery is still at 26%. I wish I could say the same of my iPhone.
@tnywatkns Nope, not alone. Mine has worked fine; well worth what little we paid for it. A few things I'd love to see, if this were a going/growing product-- more apps mainly & more capabilities when separated from the smart phone-- things that are hardly realistic in a $15 gadget!
@tnywatkns I think it's great as well. I know I've said earlier in the thread that I'd like for Meh to get more of these in stock, but considering the number of people who have reported hardware problems, maybe they should find a supply that is slightly less mediocre and charge slightly more for them.
@tnywatkns I am really enjoying this watch; it's simple but snazzy, has long battery life (as oppossed to my previous Sony smart watch) and does what I need. I would like to see some Mehrican here take on the expansion of widgets though.
@tnywatkns Mine works well too. Only one freeze which is probably my fault: I pressed the bluetooth on/off button twice in quick succession because I changed my mind about turning off bluetooth. After the 3 right buttons + clip & unclip repeatedly, it rebooted and has been great! It also looks brand new, great value for $15! Seeing notifications on my wrist is really convenient at work and while driving. No more garbled Siri translations of my messages, though I wonder when the watch free laws will start showing up... @daytonatrbo did you try pressing the 3 right buttons + clip & unclip repeatedly before taking out the battery? It was a PITA to do, but probably much easier than disassembly and reassembly.
@Odi I had not come across that method in my research. Removing the back case was no issue at all on the STRATA. It took only seconds to have it apart and back together with the right size screwdriver. Very happy with my MEHtawatch.
@tnywatkns You are not alone. I'm still having fun dinking with widgets and debating Noah.
@daytonatrbo I found it in the first FAQ answer here: http://meta.watch/pages/support The link was posted in this thread for the user manual..
Mine froze for the first time today. I had run it 100% out of battery, and couldn't get it to link. Turned off the bluetooth and turned it back on and it hung. I just hooked it up to my PC which fixed it. First charge ran 6 days!
@tnywatkns I love mine and had many compliments on it.... Going strong with no issues.
This watch works well and has a lot of potential for improvement. Any Mehrican out there want to take this on for a project? Who's with me on this? :)
See my brief experimental notes below:
I'm using Windows 7 for setup on a Samsung GS5, btw.
Okay guys and gals - the Noah version sets up fine but the watch locks up when you hit a button and none seem to work. This using 1.5.5 firmware. Bummer, but the "Official" MWM works pretty slick anyways! I traveled between buildings at work the last two days, separating myself from my phone and each time when i got in range the watch locked on to the phone right where it left off! :)
So I downgraded to 1.5.1 and ran Noah edition of CE and it worked fined. I just wasn't impressed so I upgraded back to 1.5.5 . I will play with the straight CE version someday, but AFAIK Noah was supposed to be a step better. :)
I again downgraded to 1.5.1 and tried the straight CE version. I feel like the controls were more straightforward (like the 1.5.5 version) than the Noah version. I moved back to 1.5.5 and the current "official" MWM because It just works so nicely.
Got my replacement band (with buckle!) the other day from metawatch support. Thanks, meh and metawatch!
In case anyone is trying to get the Stocks widget to work, there is an issue (at least for Android) that causes it to not load. I got word from Metawatch support that they are working on a fix.
Thanks! Was having issues with that widget and I came here first to find out about it and sure enough... :)
This thread seems like the best support "forum" for this watch at the moment. Doesn't bode well for the longevity of this smart watch brand but at least it's something. I hope they stick around because the hardware seems pretty solid.
I am impressed, my strata survived the washer and dryer.
My dad's has yet to work, holds a charge for a few hours and won't connect. Metawatch customer service is sending out a replacement. Seems like a petty stand up company.
@StrangerDanger Can I have your non-working one? I'll be glad to pay for shipping and a bit more if you'd want.
Bought this. It arrived a brick. I put it aside to charge, and forgot about it. It's still a brick.
WORSE: the company (Metawatch) refuses to respond to my emails. ZERO CUSTOMER SERVICE.
@IAmBroom If you emailed this weekend, you'll see a response on Monday. Their customer support works m-f from 8-5ish.
@Thumperchick: I emailed them over a week ago, so that isn't a valid reason.
@IAmBroom You're right, you should have gotten an answer by now. I'm thinking something went terribly wrong. Maybe when @hollboll gets in tomorrow morning, she can check into this for you.
@Thumperchick Thanks for tagging me. @Iambroom, looking into this now. You'll get an email from me soon.
Update: I've finally gotten a reply. That's something, at least.
Anybody tired of their crappy metawatch and want to mail me their charging clip? I lost mine.
@aleminopuy I've stopped wearing mine a while ago. I might be able to be convinced to send you the whole shebang.
@aleminopuy @Bogie Keep in mind that the Strata and the Frame chargers are shaped differently. Even though the contact patterns match, and Meh photoshopped in the same charger for both watches, the wider charger works on both watches, but it is a bit loose on the narrow watch. The smaller charger doesn't reach the contacts on the wider watch. (I would have said which was which, but I have already forgotten.)
I just upgraded to a Pebble watch. My daughter got my old Strata. She will probably be ready to give it up once she gets frustrated with it. The battery life is down to about a day and a half. My son also upgraded to a Pebble, but he is keeping his old Meta as a spare. Thus we are not yet ready to be Meta charger donors. I suspect it will happen in the next couple of months.
@Bogie That would be awesome. What might convince you?
@Bogie Maybe a song will convince you?
send me the meta
@aleminopuy So... With @hamjudo making me worried. I purchased the "1 META FRAME" as copied from the "Quantity" section of the order page. Did you get the same model? If you you can get someone to post here to vouch for you that you're not going to do weird things with this watch (and cover shipping), I'll send the charger (And might as well include the watch, since what good is it w/o the charger).
I just want to make sure he goes to a good home and is treated with the love and respect he deserves.
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Anyone else with a charger they want to orphan? I haven't lost mine yet, but I'd love to have a backup.
@Bogie Sounds good.
@Bogie I can vouch for @aleminopuy - He's a standup guy. You can trust him him to cover shipping for you and I am confident your charger (and watch) will be treated with the utmost care and respect.
@Bogie Send me an email at jonathan@heartslunchleague.com to set up delivery and payment details.
@Bogie Yes, I have the Meta Frame. It's just sitting here doing nothing, waiting for a charge! Can you help me out?
@aleminopuy Okay, sorry for the delay in getting back to you! I started gather up the watch and putting it into a box when my wife asked what I was doing. Apparently she is not ready to give up on it yet and doesn't want me to get rid of it yet. I will keep your information, though. If things change, I will check in to see if you still need a charger. Sorry!
@Bogie While I'm bummed out, thanks for getting back to me with the update. And yes, if anything changes, please let me know.
Have a good one.
@Bogie Any chance your wife has changed her mind / tried it and hated it?
(Please respond either way so I know you saw this)
Piece of junk. I gave it to Goodwill.
i just fired mine up and it seems to still work.
after i bought this i realized though you could not program/debug using the charging clip, unless I’m mistaken.
a) has anyone done any hacking/creating their own watch-faces or apps?
b) anyone attempted to modify included charge clip to also act as dev clip?