Meh: Day 100, Reviewing The Experiment
42Today we hit 100 days of Meh (aka the Pavlov Experiment). Seems like a good time to check our findings and adjust our variables.
To start, the original thesis: Is a classic daily deal site compelling again? Yes, we think it has proven compelling. Even with all the deal fatigue and behemoth corporate competition, we’ve attracted a few fans and we’ve had fun doing it. We could bore you with charts, graph, stats…oh and we still might, eventually, but if you’re here, we doubt you’ll argue it’s not compelling. So, we’ll continue to sell only one thing a day at Meh. We’ve really enjoyed seeing an active, if fairly small, community form around our idea, and getting to know more of you as you become regulars.
Onto our pretend next thesis: Can a classic daily deal site thrive against stiff competition? For longterm success, we need to grow. A lot. You may have guessed, we’re not reaping insane profits by selling this stuff cheaper than anyone else. To thrive without ruining our classic, focused vibe, and superior discounts, we need a lot more people. Volume, baby.
So we’re taking a look at our variables, to see what we can tweak and test to push our hypothesis that a classic daily deal site can successfully exist, even among billion-dollar competitors with massive marketing budgets and staff count. Here's what we're thinking:
- Email: We've all got email anxiety, fighting every day to keep our inbox somewhat sane. But it goes too far to suggest that nobody wants email ever. And proclamations that "email is dead" have made fools of smarter people than us before. We’ll put together an occasional newsletter for our members, and maybe a daily email for the VMP crowd that wants to make the most of their benefits. We might even throw in some jokes (laughs not guaranteed).
- Social Media: Brands on Twitter and Facebook are awful. Cheesy and tone-deaf and annoying. But we live on social media, as do many of you, and several of you asked us for Meh to be there too, even if only to give you a heads-up of what's for sale. Since it looks like a few hundred of you might be interested in following us, we’ll drop our opposition, hold our nose and spin something up.
- Developer API: In our previous life over at Woot, people built all kinds of apps, sites, widgets, what-have-you to help people follow what we were selling. Most of that has died off with their move away from the daily deal model, but we’re building a dead simple API that lets you pull in daily deal data. Once again, you developers will have a playground to try your hand at putting an app together for whatever platform you like.
A small batch of you have also joined up with our VMP program. Don’t tell the others, but we consider you guys our True Fans. We’re looking into adding a few benefits, that daily email we mentioned, maybe putting together an exclusive sale, or sending you some crap. Along with that, we’ll be shifting the rules so you’ve got to be a member to get the benefits, but if we do it right, we’ll have enough crap going on that we can drag a few more of you into the program.
We’ll check back in after these things are up and running, and see how the experiment is going. Hopefully these tweaks will help us get a little more sustainable while still staying just as Meh as always.
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"But it goes too far to suggest that nobody wants email ever"
Or... does it not go far enough???
Thanks for the update. It gives me something to chew on for my afternoon snack.
@barnabee low calorie too.
@MEHcus I prefer potstickers.
@MEHcus with no nutritional value whatsoever
Cool stuff. Are you guys looking to hire a social media master black belt ninja?
@Kevin We're more into super hero mavericks.
@JonT ah well, I didn't want to work for you anyways.
@Kevin i've already filled the rockstar postion
@harrison Will one of your bots be the official Meh feed? (or maybe have both your bot and a real-ish person both post, and let people guess which is which)
@dashcloud well, @dave's seen my Twitter feed, so I'm pretty sure that means I'm not going to be allowed anywhere near the Meh social media accounts
@dashcloud Real-ish person? I think those got left at woot.
@MsELizardBeth if they're at Woot, they're for sale.
Damn it! you guys are going to make me learn how to twitter yet! Smile And, get a LOT better at face book aren't you? Ha Ok I might take the plunge.
I prefer a small community but can see from a business perspective how that might not be sustainable, so I'm torn.
@hallmike Maybe we'll try another experiment where we make huge amounts of money off each user but stay very small.
@dave i thought we nixed the organ harvesting experiment
@dave I already promised you 30% of my speaker sock fortune. Net - not gross.
@hallmike The thought of a speaker sock IS pretty gross to me.
@dave You will probably need a different market niche then - the top 1% club or something… Don't think many of us have insane amounts of money for you to capture it all...
Well, I share your deals on my FB page, even though I have like 53.5 friends. If I think someone on there will like it, I post it.
@lisaviolet 53 .5???
@jqubed Well, yeah. Someone who really doesn't want to commit to a full time friendship.
@jqubed "It's complicated".....
@lisaviolet @jqubed or its one of those facebook accounts people make for their baby/pet.
@jqubed it's like a friend with benefits without the friendship.
Sounds promising. I'm fine with emails. I'll even check FB, I keep up with family that way. But please don't make me twit. It's for the birds!
@KDemo And yet I am the opposite: Facebook is for friends; Twitter is for brands.
@editorkid - Say what you will, I am coming to consider meh and the community as friends. If Twitter required all tweets to be in haiku format, I might reconsider.
@KDemo "if twitter required / all tweets to be in haiku / i'd reconsider."
@no1 -Tweeting in haiku / Gives words a significance / Not found normally
Another thing, please sell something good and affordable tomorrow so I can re-up my VMP. Charging cables would be nice. I would buy more batteries. Chanting to self "Change is good. Change is good."
@KDemo I hope you like speaker docks. :)
@barnabee -I like them so much I already have two, not counting three older ones. I also bought mini Kai speakers here, so they're going to have to change it up.
@barnabee -Oh, and when I ordered the JBL, they accidentally sent two and said I could keep both, so my son has one as well.
@KDemo You had a Two-for-Tuesday without the Tuesday. Nice!
@barnabee - I would do more, but I live in a pretty small house. If I buy something new, something else has to go.
It would probably be good if you tweak your code so Facebook previews show a picture of the item for sale, not a Meh face. When I post a deal on Facebook, I always feel compelled to say something along the lines of "ignore the picture, the item is there and it's a good deal."
@jqubed This frustrates me every time I try to get some FBriends interested in a deal.
@jqubed that how I felt with the camera yesterday! I have friends who might have been interested, but I doubt anyone clicked
Speaker Docks: They're holding us back.
@BillLehecka and yet somehow they sell like crazy...go figure
I can't speak for everyone, but on the consumer side I think the resistance to social media isn't having a presence but requiring bullshit faux-interaction as a requirement to participate. I don't mind that companies have a social media presence--hell, the more ways to conveniently contact a company the better. But everyone hates "like and share our dumb picture for a chance to win a 5% off coupon" or whatever. I don't think Meh would do that.
@Starblind ^This!^
@Starblind agreed - great point.
we'll do at least 10% off.
@Starblind "like and share our stupid picture and we will grace you with our glorious indifference"
@harrison That's what's already happening. Oh, that was the point, yes?
@Starblind Like = you want us to sell more speaker docks, comment = more Roombas! Do nothing = you hate puppies.
@snapster why not 90% off? LOL Oh wait you are already doing that sometimes anyway...
Is this the post with the most stars ever? @Starblind obviously has his/her finger on the pulse of the community. All hail the Prophet/Prophette @Starblind!
@KDemo I think everyone wanted her to go Starblind. (I swear I am not a Dad!)
bullshit-faux-interaction = best order number ever!
Social media person needs to be empowered to resolve any issue brought up on social media sites. Also, being susceptible to small bribes is a plus.
I vote twitter over facebook, if you're asking. I want facebook to die already.
@bluedyn downvote. I do not like twitter - don't like facebook either but that I am on to keep track family
@Kidsandliz I'm on both, and not a fan of either one. But my real protest is that businesses are on fb at all. I joined when you had to have a college email address. The idea of a company having a fb presence is so very wrong to me. Regardless of how many are there anyway.
@bluedyn corporations are people too!
@no1 Bite my shiny metal ass, they are.
I love the openness--thanks for the super blatant post. Looking forward to how things move forward!
You should make your funny product picture of the day an instagram account. I'd follow.
Sell more meh tee shirts - only change it to meh.com - and let us buy more than one at a time - and make one in purple. When I wear mine at least five people ask me what meh means. And then you could like give us something to hand out that tells people about the crap you sell.
I love purple.
@YoDad see, the dot com part would take away from it, for me.
@Thumperchick I don't want the .com part either. Maybe an iron on for the people who do? Men can bring back the iron on, which'll undoubtedly get hipsters with disposable income attention.
@YoDad Give us iPad Air 2's to hand out to people, not the shitty speaker docks.
@YoDad )r something to hand out that if they use the code on it they get a discount on their first purchase and we get a discount on our next purchase - so each of us would need a user code to put (we could put) on the handouts (electronic or not) we could pull off our account (eg mehest-discount-ever-314 with each of us having a number so you could link back to us).
@bluedyn but you're missing the point. If meh doesn't get more customers, then it will go away and there will be a giant void, you know, a dock-less purple hole. Putting meh.com on the tee might save meh from extinction.
@YoDad Or they could just send it with a marker so that those so inclined could add the .com themselves.
@YoDad [putting on my cynical marketing hat] Scenario One: You're wearing a meh.com shirt, someone sees it, they get that it's a website, they don't ask you anything. Scenario Two: Someone sees meh on your shirt. They don't know what that is. They ask you. You talk to them about what it is. Which scenario has a more successful outcome for us?
@dave You're assuming we're not all afraid of strangers in real life. Try selling a .com iron on. It'll be awesome. And multipurpose!
@YoDad I can say, without a doubt, that I have never gone to a website because of a web address on a tshirt. I have, however, asked people where they got the funny/cool/something shirt they are wearing, and gone to that website. (@dave's postulation is my experience)
Strangers do terrify me. When people ask "What's Meh?" My response is "A great website." and then I pretend I have something important to do, and walk away quickly.
Ain't nobody gonna ask what a plain "meh" shirt is. They'll assume it's just a shirt stating the wearer's disposition. They'll think, "That's an indifferent bloke right there." If they see meh.com shirt, they'll think, "That fellow must really like that website...I wonder why?" Then they'll go check it out and fall in love. Earning meh.com tens of dollars.
@dave I think this scenario works. I was getting snacks at a theater once and the girl behind the counter said she'd bought the same shirt for her brother. I asked her if she was on the site and it turned out she'd bought a slightly different Meh shirt somewhere else, but she knew of Woot and sounded like she'd check this site out.
@dave But there are so many other scenarios, not just two or three. I see meh.com and I immediately pull out my pad and check it out. I see meh and I think "whatever" or "what a stupid shirt," but that's it.
We need a poll: Meh or Meh.com ?
Ask Irk?
@barnabee Why not both?
@parodymandotcom Wouldn't that be too logical?
@parodymandotcom Shirt plus an iron-on patch of .com. Solved.
@bluedyn Not quite. Meh would need to sell irons for those of us that don't own one.
@hallmike Great! I'd like a 5 iron and a pitching wedge.
@YoDad Can't we do BOTH? Why not "Meh" on the front and "Meh.com" on the back of the shirt (with a photo of Irk because he's cute in an Irkish sort of way.)
@YoDad People I don't know would come up and talk at me? shudder. I have a They Might Be Giants go mug. Twice now, pleasant young women who work in the coffee places I frequent have said something like "I love They Might Be Giants!!" And then I say "garble garble I'm afraid" and run away. There's no way I would wear a tshirt if I thought it meant someone would walk up and say something to me.
@LaVikinga or "Meh" how it already is on the shirt and in smaller letters underneath "meh.com" . A clarification of sorts.
@barnabee How about the "meh" is it is now, but a QR code to get people to the site? QR codes are more meh than anything evar.
@editorkid I don't think I want people pointing mobile devices at my T-shirt. After all, they are already pointing fingers at me and laughing. Maybe it bothers me more than it should?
@editorkid We're supposed to stand still while people scan a code on our shirts? Personal space invasion alert!!! Stranger danger!!!
@bluedyn Yeah. A woman is wearing a meh shirt with a QR code and a guy points his phone at her chest and pushes a button as if he's taking a picture. That's not the creepiest thing in the world, is it?
@barnabee how about a QR code on the back of the shirt that directs to Something Went Terribly Wrong? Then you can turn around and laugh at them when it starts playing.
@Kleineleh Now THAT'S funny!
@Dave put the "com" inside of the dot. that way it is really too small to see and would still garner conversation and it would complement all the meh faces. That said, i still prefer the shirt without a big .com at the end
@YoDad i see any1 with a ".com" on their shirt, i think "company shill" and puke ebola-infected vomit all over it.
Meh is still week-old shiny new to me - random thoughts...
1) Beautiful, clean site design with really clever details. While you already knew that, it feels good to highlight it. I wish I could reward you financially but our impulse-buy closet is already overflowing. I want to stay married.
2) No ads cluttering things up? How do you afford that? Thanks so much. Again, I would like to reward, but.
3) You need "Volume, baby"? If your growth curve is not exponential enough, with Wooters spinning off (are they arriving in other ways?), perhaps bribing folks not to tap the Meh button would help accelerate things.
- Free VMP next month for buying X thingies this month.
- VMP or VMP Prime status fringe benefit: vote to decide future Meh products from a crappy selection.
- Buy X (floating random number between Y & Z?) thingies and get a surprise free Meh T-shirt.
- Meh referral benefit, bring in X newbies (IP address check?), get one free VMP month. Limit one free month per quarter.
- Badges for participation (might be doing this and I don't see it!): Bringing in newbies, Popular comments, Facebook like, Twitter follow, etc... (Gotta keep the FB & T profiles private tho.)
@RedOak if you're not seeing an ad underneath the "check out the community" button, then I'm not doing my job right.
@harrison yep, see it now. Bummer, you do have ads. But thanks for not fire-hosing us with them. BTW, that ad I'm seeing is scary-specific... for a site I shopped on the first time today.
@harrison Or Adblock Plus is doing its job?
@harrison you must be doing your job right, my wife now gets a random pair of socks once a month. Win-win is how I see it.
@harrison Ghostery filtered it for me, and while I still doubt I'll whitelist meh, hey, at least I buy a couple things a month. Win some, lose some? ;)
@RedOak yeah I don't like the snooping on my internet cookies. Have to remember to delete all unimportant cookies.
@Kidsandliz The cookie-ads don't bother me that much - but I was impressed by how quick and responsive this one was. I figure if ads bring stuff/sites free, the least I can do is let them in... and then ignore them. I'm cheap and like free stuff.
@RedOak OK, just realized that ad was cross-platform from PC to Tablet. Shopped that site on PC but ad came on tablet. Had heard Facebook was offering cross-device/same user linkages - perhaps this was like that..
@harrison I wasn't seeing ads on the main page even with the ad blocker turned off for this site. I had to open up the DoNotTrackMe browser app and unblock Doubleclick before the ad appeared.
@GoatLord Random socks once a month? That is something I need to ask for for Christmas. Give me more details please!
@chellemonkey http://footcardigan.com/
@chellemonkey I believe it's a reference to http://footcardigan.com
And just like that @JonT beat me to the punch...er maybe it's kick in this instance
I spotted the sock thing a while back and had been mulling, but since then Google's been creeping me out with personalized ads. Even so, I did whitelist you. And I did just subscribe to the socks. :) Find a way to tell them you referred me so you can get some revenue.
I still think my points for referrals idea is stellar. Send people to meh = get points. Get enough points = earn a fukubukuro.
I've been a VMP member since day one and I've never expected anything, so hearing that I might get something, even an email,(which makes no sense unless you plan on selling more stuff...PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A SHIT STORM WITH MULTIPLE ITEMS), makes me happy. Back when Matt owned that other site, I thought it was cool getting coupons and gift cards because I was an active member in the community. Getting this stuff showed my wife I wasn't really wasting my time on the internet and I really wasn't looking at porn. I like the way things have been going, you guys have done a great job. I know there will be some growth and change, but all I ask is it doesn't become a total clusterfuck. Oh, is there any chance I can have the Kickstarter logo AND the VMP logo next to my screen name??
@somf69 stacking logos would be pretty sweet! I've been a VMP since day zero, and proud of it :)
@somf69 IT'S A SHIRTSTORM! SHIRTSTORM! SHIRTSTORM!
@kadagan day zero here too, I keep forgetting that we started on 0
I'm not really into a daily email- it'll just get stuck in the gaping maw that is Promotions.
I would like snarky & witty banter on Twitter- you could do worse than being like @pinboard.
I highly suggest having a different Meh staffer run the Twitter account each day- and once you run out of people, that's why there's bots!
I really love this site and the members here. It really does feel like a tight-knit community. I'm sure that will change a bit once more and more people come on board. But for now I am pretty content with things the way they are.
I don't have too much to say on the social media aspect. Do what you want there. I'm on FB and Twitter, but not so much as I used to be. It's getting a little lame in my eyes. Not sure why. Maybe the newness has worn off. I can see how you would reach more people by participating, though.
One suggestion I can think of for you to make more money is to perhaps poll the community now and then on things that they would like to see you sell. I am not sure exactly how your buying process works, and I have no business degree, but it would stand to reason that you would sell more of what people say that they are willing to buy. Maybe setup a product suggestions email box. Let people email in things that they are looking for and try and sell the ones that get the most mentions.
Keep up the great work, guys and gals. This site has definitely given me something to look forward to each and every day! :)
I like you just the way you are... But if you asked me what I'd change about you?
Well...
What about working on ways to get some of the regulars a little more involved. Regular spotlights. Sorta like what's going on with the Goat.
I like meh.com and I promote in person where I can. Let us know what we can do to help you!
I was also thinking, what about "Real User Reviews". Start with a beta group of, say 10 people and send them 10 different items. Their objective is to test the item (intended purpose or not?) then either write, take pictures of, or film their review of the item. At the end rating it for a few fun categories like Intended use, door stop, fire starter, etc. Have those reviews as a side to the write up on, say every tuesdays. Figure out some clever way to name it like heMs: Helpful Everyday mReviews (the m is silent)
@Bogie so much this! I volunteer as unofficial official durability tester!
@Bogie sweet idea! I volunteer too!
@Bogie nice idea, I would be glad to be part of something like this, even if we still paid for things, we just saw them ahead of time and maybe for less, so we could give a reviews when they were for sale to everyone else.
@Bogie I like the beta tester idea, too. That has winning written all over it.
@Bogie don't forget boat anchor, relationship destroyer… as choices
@Bogie I'm for the beta test! Maybe an exchange between testers of different items.
@Ryaneil I'm in too
@Ryaneil, @kidsandliz, @jsh139, @don, @bluedyn, @Daveinsocal : We need to get someone important, like @Dave on this.
@Bogie i agree! Anyone with the name "Dave" just sounds important.
@Bogie
@JonT Aww, I'm sorry JonT. I heard around the water cooler that you were WAY too important (like more important than @Snapster important) to be bothered with our silly ideas on making meh more... meh.
@Bogie c'mon now, you know you tell me anything! I might not be able to do what you suggest or ask, but I'll always listen.
I really like what you all are doing here, but never, under any circumstances SQUIRREL!
@DaveInSoCal I can confidently announce that we currently have no plans to squirrel.
@DaveInSoCal Does this mean something i don't want to know what it means ?
@ceagee I think maybe he's referring to the movie Up?
@jsh139 When one tends to go after squirrels at all times, someone pointing them out is very confusing.
@ceagee I'm thinking of the scene from Christmas Vacation with the squirrel.
@jsh139 you got it. Thank you.
@DaveInSoCal I had a feeling. I find myself doing that from SQUIRREL!!
I was a very big fan of that other site from the beginning and I sent a lot of people there who became regulars. I am always talking up this site. I don't do Facebook or twitter but look forward to receiving emails from you. If you sent out coupon I would pass them out and if you sent marketing stuff or clothes I would display them. Wait! I am sounding way to interested, sorry, I meant to say MEH!
Ditto what Don said - we don't Facebook or Twitter - but the addiction I used to have for the "other" site is thankfully back in full force for this one. I understand you need growth - but at the same time, we love you just the way you are!
An API? You have my attention.
Seriously though, where's the shirt.meh link... I can't find it....
I really like the site & the community. Seems like your ideas would benefit Meh & hopefully help with its success while preserving the nature of the site/community. I missed the unique, quirky & creative aspects of what woot used to be. Glad to come here daily to get my unique, quirky & creative "fix". Kudos to the staff for all their hard work!
Well I don't care what anybody else does, I'm puttin' a link on my web site (that is, if it's okay with meh).
I know a great Social Media Director. Just wondering how to get her to move back to Texas from Seattle. I'm sure if she was serious you guys could get her. Quaff-Dragon-Acid.
@xarous They... they have one. Well, he's a bit of the whole community's director, but I think @JonT is doing a great job here.
@xarous Does she freelance? I know someone that needs some help and wouldn't care where she lived.
@Thumperchick Thanks TC! There's still a lot I want to do and I'm really excited to keep growing the community.
@JonT I don't think the scapegoat should be allowed to brown nose, but I have to say that you are active and keep things lively. I glad I came to meh.
@xarous You know I don't brown nose. If I thought he sucked, he'd know. I'm kind of an ass like that.
There's been some items I'd of bought, except it either sold out entirely by the time I checked Meh or everything but Purple was gone (which only occasionally stops me). But I assume there's probably some whizzy graph and statistical analysis showing you its denied you insignificant sales.. Maybe just mine. I'll go content myself with my purple battery pack. Also, possible VMP benefit: An extra 24 hours on deals that haven't sold out?
I love purple.
@Ringold Ooh, or how about some kind of lead on upcoming products. Either a short (maybe hour?) direct tell on the next item or a more vague teaser but that's farther in advance (day, days, week?).
Perhaps VMP warning there will be a fuku - especially since those of us in time zones where this is late at night know to stay up not to miss it?
Another duplicate face today… sigh. You are getting old already as this is not the first duplicate. You DO know that we come back for the meh faces right? We have to click to see the face; to get our daily fix; to keep gravity working...How about running a contest for meh faces. Have a first, second and third prize and for all who send in a face get advanced warning of the next fuku? That should keep you in fresh meh faces for a while.
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Not a giant fan of business on social media either, but given a forced option I'd certainly choose Facebook. At least you have the ability to post more in depth information there. So not a fan of Twitter. If you're gonna travel this road, I'd suggest a user vote of which platform is preferred and stick to just one.
The definition of meh: expressing a lack of interest or enthusiasm. / uninspiring; unexceptional.
what if you changed your name from: Meh. to Meh?
That way maybe people think there is a potential for it to not be Meh. Cause right now, that's what it is.
You get plenty of traffic everyday. Just no one buys...
I don't want daily emails. I also don't want to miss important VMP info. Please, make any VMP email alerts occasional only, not every day. Daily emails are much more likely to be ignored. Occasional emails get read. Thanks!
@DJP519 Totally agree -- I'm not a VMP now, but I don't want to pay $5/month for daily emails. That is not a plus to being a VMP.
My two-cents. I like the idea of extra benefits for the VMP members and the original Kickstarter supporters. (I am both) I'm OK with a daily or weekly email. Facebook bugs me and I've tried to stop using it but it's a way to stay connected with family and friends. I like Twitter better actually. The bullshit factor is way less. A social media presence for Meh.com would no doubt help get more visibility and business.
@Stumpy91 You Kickstarters already got yours. Perks should be for VMPs. And not those cancel immediately ones (you all know who you are), but the auto-renew group.
@bluedyn Me, you mean me. I think that finding the best way to utilize the VMP and save money is a worthwhile endeavor. If the benefits of auto-renew start to outweigh the savings (which would be really easy to do) then I'll go auto-renew. I don't think that this somehow makes current auto-renewers more "worthy" in any way. I do agree that us kickstarters already reaped the benefit of early backing.
@Thumperchick Agree completely. Which of course is your fault. Had I known about the Kickstarter, I totally would have been in on it. (Speaking of which, how the hell did you all know about it??) As for VMP, I was letting mine auto-renew up until this month. I'll absolutely continue using it but I'm at the point of trying to watch just how much needless crap I'm buying.
@Thumperchick I agree with you, too. Kickstarter is done (also super sad I missed it), and when VMP gets perks THEN the people canceling immediately are excluded. And you're not the only canceler. I'm mostly too lazy to worry about canceling. Plus $5 = pfft, who cares.
@Cinoclav Follow Dave and Matt on Twitter.
@Cinoclav I requested notification on Mediocre for new stuff.
@Stumpy91 I find that there's actually a lot of crap on Twitter. And filtering my feed to people I'm actually interested in, I get very little of it on Facebook.
I want a meh hat, or maybe a color-coordinated hat-tee combo. The hat could say meh and the tee could say .com. Pretty sure I'd pay $10 for that.
The API is the most intriguing aspect here to me. I wouldn't mind messing around with that. Love to figure out a way to send an alert of some kind for a fukubukuro.
@PanicSwitch we'll create a fukubukuro notifier API hook and then use it to tell you only about vacuums.
@snapster Just make sure that you change the title of the deal slightly to ward off the bots. For instance, Unicode Latin text works nicely: ƑƯƘƯƁƯƘƯƦƠ
@jsh139 Woot tries that stuff with me all the time, they are never successful.
@lichme I know, you're like the crap whisperer!
@snapster Fast forward to a year later when my house is full of Dysons and I can't figure out why I keep getting them in my Fuku bags.
@PanicSwitch or why your Fuku bags cost so much
@lichme They actually try to block crap detectors with deliberately mislabelled stuff?
I wouldn't say that email is dead. I mean, junk emails are a torrential flood of crap fighting with advertisement to ruin the internet. Crap rules the internet. Well, prawn rules the internet, but crap is a close second. Okay, distant second, but second at any rate. Getting harder and harder to find the sweet nugget of goodness inside all the layers of onion...
@PocketBrain
@bluedyn Porn is completely too high on that pyramid. It might be just above cats, but I'm not certain.
@Deech I can get porn on late night cable. But a false sense of personal interaction with "friends" and gifs of cats require internet tube delivery.
@bluedyn
@Stumpy91 Wow. Billy Joel looks so.. so.. young. Love the hair. He went and changed.
Everybody hates some combination of social media but no one hates everything. It sounds like Meh's solution needs to be to invent its own social media. Or maybe just post your shit here and give us nice shiny Share buttons so we can spread your gospel far and wide. I'd rather come here than either Facebook or Twitter. (I have Mediocre's Twitter profile bookmarked, but follow it? I'd rather not. And aside from AdBlock Plus, I run three other Facebook adblocking extensions. Please don't ask me to turn my Facebook posts into ads.)
Emails could potentially help remind some to come back daily. I wouldn't want a daily email. I very much prefer to get my info from the forums, where the interaction is. I'd be cool with a VMP newsletter, though.
The social media presence right now has a gaping issue. It looks abandoned. At least facebook does. I would say that if you're not going to do something with it, delete the page; because if I went to check you out on facebook - I'd think you were either a shell company or out of business. Whichever platform(s) you choose, use them. Hell, get IFTT to push your instagram posts that you cross post to twitter to push to facebook. You only have to post it once. But use it, or ditch it. A dead social media page is worse than no page.
Well, @lichme does currently have meh.com on his wootstalker site and app. But I would love to see a standalone mediocre/meh stalker, called stalkmeh.
I have talked my friends to pieces about this site. My sister is now in love and checks back daily. (I guess the chromebook and speaker systems were a good buy for her.) If the deal is great, I share it. Sometimes people even buy it. I do get annoyed that I have to explain what the face thumbnail is, so if you make your product of the day a possible thumbnail, that would make more people click on a share.
I am curious, how much growth are you talking? I know immense is good, but right now, 30-50,000 unique visits/day is nothing to sneeze at. You're selling out of product some days, too. What numbers are you looking for in this first year to be successful?
@Thumperchick Part of the reason why I do not have a dedicated meh tracker is because the site doesn't really need one yet. They layout works well, the site is simple and easy to navigate. It would be just as easy for somebody to go directly to meh to find out what's for sale. I will probably (most definitely) end up doing something separate with historical sales and such, but for now it wouldn't have as much of a use as wootstalker does.
Dear Meh, I am excited about all of this.
Please email me once a day.
Also, tell me how to find you on twitter and facebook.
I'll unsubscribe when I'm sick of you.
xo -
Patti
@patti twitter - https://twitter.com/mediocrelabs fb - https://www.facebook.com/mediocrelabs
@Thumperchick Wow. That is a sad facebook page.
@Thumperchick Barely a mention of meh.com on the mediocre site. Really should have it's own page(s).
So we all agree it's awesome and we want to keep it going. Can someone write-up some sample tweets/fb posts/what-have-yous so we can all go tell our "friends"? I want @JasonToon approved copy here, not my lame attempts at being clever.
@bluedyn I think the very virtue of meh is that your lame attempts at being clever, individual and half-assed as they may be, are exactly the kind of crap advertising they'd prefer to use. Anything else, no matter how clever and/or homespun is going to come across produced and fake. :-)
@joelmw And yet @JasonToon did write some half-assed "crap advertising" lines that I did use. Happily. :)
@bluedyn Is that in a thread here? I feel so out of touch. And, yes, that's right: after talking shit about it, I might just want to use some of that crap myself. You got a problem with that?
@joelmw Scroll down. And I have no problem with that. Feel free to say one thing and do another. :)
"But we live on social media, as do many of you, and several of you asked us for Meh to be there too,"
Edit: How easily you cave, meh. (shakes head disapprovingly) If a couple hundred people ask for a sub-site with another deal each day, would you do it?
@medz Mediocre is already on both, and doing a mediocre job on Twitter, and a hugely meh job on Facebook
Use your social media accounts to commercialize shit that shouldn't be commercialized (e.g., 9/11), but go over the top with it.
@JerseyFrank Freedom Eagles crying glittery tears. All. Over. Facebook.
I'd be honored, @bluedyn! Tweet your pick:
My stupid friends would like this stupid website full of stupid crap because they're stupid: meh.com.
Can you believe somebody's doing "daily deals" again? The losers at meh.com probably still think VOTE FOR PEDRO shirts are cool.
ALERT: the web address meh.com infected my computer... with BIG SAVINGS!
Life is too precious to waste buying cheap junk from meh.com.
It took me a long time to remember how to love myself. Then I went to meh.com and forgot again.
If you like saving money on stuff you don't need, check out meh.com! And counseling for your shopping addiction! It's destroying you!
Meh.com is the perfect daily-deal site for your next 2005-themed party.
Find the latest, hottest gadgets anywhere but meh.com.
@JasonToon These are delightful. I'll add a baby arm pic and share with my friends. :)
Done and done. Not that I've told many people, but PEOPLE WERE TOLD, DAMMIT
I can vouch for this, @bluedyn. Got your message on Ello which sent me directly back to meh! Mehraculous! (Sadly no baby arm, though).
@KDemo I saved the baby arm for people who hadn't seen it, my facebook friends, for maximum weirding out.
@JasonToon Okay, damnit, @bluedyn, those are good. Though I'm a little disappointed that there's nothing in here about speaker docks.
@joelmw You could take the first one and replace "crap" with "speaker docks." Or trade out "junk" in the fourth one. There are ways to wedge speaker docks into these. :)
@bluedyn Indeed. And I probably will. :-)
Ask me about the true meaning of "meh" t-shirts.
Or get Matt to write a song about meh, then get someone famous to turn it into a top 10 hit. Beyoncé? Robin Thick? The Stones?
@Teripie The Chipmunks?
@Teripie Infant Sorrow?
I agree with someone up there^ that if you have a meh button vote to down a product and another for collectibles like faces it may help with statistics.
I'll totes post up on Google+ right now for you guys. You can thank me later:)
The reason I'm not a VMP is because I don't feel like there is a long gap between items I'm somewhat interested in. The last thing I bought here was the Fukubukuro. Before that was the Toccs Snap Cable.
Taking a look at recent stuff:
Bottom line? I like buying cheap stuff I can always have an extra of. Extra Shirt. Extra charging cables. Batteries aren't bad but I already have an abundance of them. It's not about what I absolutely need on this site because I never know if/when they will sell a product I need. I just impulse but here.
@xEBRONx Are you saying you were watching me when I bought utensils?
Meh and Mediocre have been great. I've had a lot of fun and some good laughs.
Wait. Day 100? But I've been a VMP member for 102days!
Keep telling us that we'll for sure get more benefits "soon". In fact, you should tell us that about once a week, so we don't cancel and more people sign up, just in case.
never deliver.
THE MEH EXPERIENCE!
@Deech You're a day late to the post and they didn't count "Zero Day" in their 100 count. MATHS
@Thumperchick Meh. Math.
Sounds like a quite a few folks want more T's ( although some argument on design ) . At the same time no one wants it to be more than one deal a day.
Why not have one day a week be deal + Tee day ?
So like 2 for Tuesday, it's Shirt Storm Saturday or something like that. You offer a shirt With the deal.
OH wait. You did that already ;-)
But if you made it a regular thing and yes, w/ different shirt designs, then you would get some that would buy the deal for the shirt or just check out the site that day to see the Tee and then they'd see what else was going on here if they checked out the site. Or make it a random thing. A roving Shirt Storm.
Well just a thought. It's free so take it as it is.
@ceagee No. More. Shirt. Storms.
@Thumperchick But... But... I like T-shirts. It must be your fault.
@ceagee I love shirts. Dislike Shirt Storms.
@Thumperchick Then how about shirts w/ no storm ? What would you call that ?
@ceagee so, wait. You're saying they should have a t-shirt you could buy every day, in addition to the dotd? Wait! Maybe they could have contests for the design and post a new shirt every day! Wait. This is sounding terribly familiar...
@Deech No. You are confused. Not every day. Only one day. and you have to buy the other deal to buy the shirt. They did that already remember ? Basically the bottom line is trying to find a way to get t shirts. Meh in so many different ways. I'm open to ideas. But then, I have my K shirt and the other one so... whatever.
@ceagee Ahh. Where you lost me was when you said "made it a regular thing and yes, w/ different shirt designs, then you would get some that would buy the deal for the shirt or just check out the site that day to see the Tee" seems like you were talking about regularly, like, every day.. also, I made a few extra conclusions to fit my joke narrative. Reality isn't nearly as funny.
@Deech Reality isn't nearly as funny. Fair enough.
@ceagee I'd be happy with a designated shirt day--maybe or maybe not every week.
@dave How do you reconcile needing to make more money with selling a $12 item that you only have 250 of? Is this something you're only doing while the customer base is still small?
@SSteve but... but VOLUME
I check meh everyday in the same way that I once checked woot. I like the site and the deals besides your obvious shortcomings in some certain areas.
I agree with the other people about the links and crap. . . When there's a good deal, i share it with people anyway, and i'm much more likely to do that than seem annoying on fb or (shudder) twitter sharing a link for any reward. I usually end up blocking people that post that junk and I can't imagine i'm alone in that.
There are quite a few things I would have pulled the trigger on if I didn't already have them (the recent camera comes to mind). . and the community seems to be strong. Glad to see you guys return.
@jrwofuga - and for that alone, meh.
I'm intrigued. Just happened upon the site. As a former woot patron (from 06), I'm glad to see a resurrection of the old site recipe.
@crktfrog Welcome back! The 8-year journey from the LeakFrog Kingdom to the Speaker Dock Empire arrives happily to its destination.
I only discovered Meh a week ago. I was on Woot a long time and saw it go from good daily deal to lots of crap deals. Long time since I saw anything good there.
I'm going to enjoy Meh until they get bought out by ebay or buy.com and follow the same route as Woot-Amazon.
I welcome the e-mails. So much handier to check what's on meh.
Not face-yuck or tweeter! Don't ruin yourselves by falling victim to those useless crap holes, filled with people who seem to think we give a flying yuck that they just ate a french fry or trying to save the titsi-fly's titsi or something like that.
It's the same slippery slope the once great woot site went down, trying to clutch on to the latest fad, filled with idiots who wouldn't know a meh from a hole in the ground.
Say it ain't so!!
@beachhead You seem overly angry about social networking. Did you get mauled by a farmville game request?
@Thumperchick I met my wife on Farmtown. Maybe that's why I'll always have a degree of tolerance for Facebook.
@beachhead If social media is only used as a tool to let people know about Meh, then whats wrong with that. I think it would be a bad decision NOT to use it. Now, if they try to get fancy and have "Like" our page for special deals type stuff--THAT is dumb and would cause me to roll the Meh HQs.
@Thumperchick Not "angry", I just find it less than useful, and it's the road that started woot to ruin. What follows is "get your deal on our face-yuck page", or twaddle your twit to get the next fuku. Simple concepts like "one product in one day" need simple marketing, like want the deal, go to our single site. I thought Meh was trying to re-capture the magic that once was woot. The best way to do that is to not follow the same road, and think it'll take you somewhere else.
I have to say, it is like I am sitting in my freshman dorm room at UMCP all over again. My roommate and I staying up till 1am hoping for a BOC or keyboard tray or weird bluetooth mouse. Even though I don't find woot a soul-less pit of crapulence, meh is as pure as the slightly driven snow. Thank you for the reboot.
@robbiegsic You may have a star for this.
If I could place an order without getting an address verification, it would be nice.
Oops, accidentally unsubscribed from the newsletter because I didn't read through it and thought it was random spam. Can't figure out how to get back on.
@jowoseph I'm pretty sure there's a secret ritual that involves dark magic and the sacrifice of a goat.
@joelmw Damn, I only have a sheep. Is that close enough?
@jowoseph I'm only pretty sure. All I know is that the gods are fickle. Which could be good news or bad news.
@joelmw does @cengland0 know about this ?
@ceagee this sort of scares me. That's why I'm hiding out at mediocre.com where the scapegoat is safe.
@cengland0
Yep stacking the kickstarter and vmp would be great for those of us who've been there from the beginning. MEH has made it fun checking in again to see what's for sale each day. I don't mind emails at all, I just delete the ones I don't want to read. I ALWAYS read the one's from MEH