@heartny
As much as I generally like to argue for argument’s sake, I think this is more of a universal truism than that 42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything as was written by St. Douglas of Adams.
Despite what my Da told me, I do not think dad’s know everything or are always right, but I have to agree with @Doooood on this point- no apparent controversy present here- look away…
@sammydog01 I once had them as a basket ingredient in one of our Chopped dinner parties. I melted them down with fresh bay leaf, ahem @capnjb, and lots of black pepper and used them to candy bacon for a salad. I also got all crunch berries cereal in the main course. My friends think they’re funny. But they have to eat it so joke’s on them!
@macromeh@sammydog01@sillyheathen I just had some made by a candy shop I follow on FB, and they were sooo much better than the ones from the grocery store.
@capnjb@kittykat9180 Here are two unpopular opinions about coffee: it’s about the flavor, not the caffeine; decaf coffee can taste every bit as good as caffeinated coffee.
@ItalianScallion@kittykat9180 I would posit that it depends on the decaffeination process. Some is done with water, some is done with a chemical process.
When I share coffee with people, I often get the question ‘How do I make it?’. It’s just coffee, make it like you make coffee.
Also, I’m not going to judge someone about how they prefer their coffee. I like my coffee black. But I don’t care if you add both honey and sugar with oat milk. Drink coffee the way you like it… how I like it has nothing to do with how you like it
@capnjb@kittykat9180 I’m a long time drinker of decaf and although I prefer beans that had the water process for decaffeination vs the chemical process, so as not to take in chemical residues, I had much more of the latter. I really haven’t seen a difference in taste, but as I discovered in my cooking classes, I don’t have a particularly “elevated” sense of taste.
I love to cook, but… (and this will likely get @sillyheathen coming in here swinging at me) I don’t really think bay leaves add anything to a dish At least not dried ones.
@capnjb It is a subtle difference. saw a cooking YouTube channel where a steadfast doubter tasted salmon cooked without bay leaf and then when he tasted the one with bay leaf said, “dammit”
@russellmz Heh… if we were to ever share a meal at my table, I promise you that you would not get up after the meal and say, damn… I wish that dish had bay in it I’m digging my heels in the ground here. Stubbornness is in my DNA. LOL. Also hiding from @sillyheathen
I feel you MUST do a controlled test to (dis)prove your theory.
I, personally, buy mine in large quantities from Penzey’s and love adding it to all sorts of recipes. It makes a difference. And god forbid I forget to add, sure the dish is still great, but I can tell and it would have tasted even better.
@capnjb@russellmz@tinamarie1974 I’m rather spoiled in this particular matter as I have a 20’ bay in my yard. I think the problem is that most people get bay from the store and it’s just too old. I definitely prefer the flavor from the fresh bay for most applications but I do also dry it and sometimes powder it to add to rubs because it offers a depth of flavor that is really special.
@capnjb@russellmz@sillyheathen well that is spectacular!!! I find Penzy’s to be better than what I can get at the store, but I am certain it doesnt compare to fresh from the tree!!
@algae1221 But you get to adjust more often the way it is now.
On a side note, there is a significant consensus among health professionals that the better of the 2 paths would be to eliminate it altogether, as that would fit our natural cycles better. OTOH, our congressional critters seem to be leaning the other direction when they can be bothered (or bought) to form an opinion on the issue. Go figure.
[i’d give some references, but would be told to visit the political BS site here.]
I do enjoy airplane food and the smell of Halloween masks! Well, I enjoy my memories of airplane food when it was bad, but nowhere near as bad as it is now. And they’ve changed plastics and Halloween masks smell different and worse now; did you mean now, or ever? Up until maybe 15-20 years ago you could still get that smell in independent Halloween stores that just brought out the same old stock every year. I was somewhere in the past few years that smelled like the Kmart Halloween aisle in 1980. It was a hardware store or somewhere selling cheap floormats. It was amazing and I freaked out a little bit.
So, uh, I like smells. I love tar. A certain quality of car exhaust smells like food and makes me hungry. I like the smell of melting styrofoam and burning rubber if it’s not too strong. Bulgari Black was a great fragrance because it smelled like the tires of a new toy truck. A new toy, anyway.
@mossygreen
I’m also in the “I like airplane food” group. Unfortunately you hardly ever get any food anymore, but the meals you get on overseas flights are actually not that bad. Especially if you fly with Air France. Of course the fact that they come around for a basket full of fresh French bread to pass out a second round part way through the meal always helped.
@chienfou. You poor, sick individual. Candy corn is not meant to be eaten. Remember how your grandparents home was dust free? That’s why they had candy corn out (also ribbon candy at Xmas) year round!
@lisagd22 My 2 experiences of jury duty both involved cases of sexual abuse. Days of listening to horrible soul-crushing details (in one case, the victim was 15, same as my daughter at the time). No thanks - fortunately, I soon will be an age where participation is voluntary.
@macromeh Oh, that’s awful! I’ve done jury duty three times and only got called for one case. It was a civil case about a minor car accident–yawn. I was in the pool for an attempted murder case, but they did a plea deal during the lunch break.
@lisagd22@macromeh I always seem to have unique circumstances that occur before I go into jury duty. When I was in Tampa, I had a jury duty date, but the night before actually turned out to be the very first time I spoke on the phone with my birth mom. (spoiler: I was adopted). I sat there in the auditorium as they were calling jurors, and I went up to the lady at the desk and said, “I just found my birth mom last night. My brain is going everywhere else but here”. She looked at me and said, “I thought I’d heard everything before, you are dismissed”.
And then here in Marland, we had property stolen and we were involved in that case when I got summoned again. The case was almost identical to my case, and I explained to the judge what I was dealing with and said it would be unlikely that I’d be able to be objective about this case because I was still angry. I was dismissed.
@capnjb@lisagd22@macromeh I’ve been called three times but never even reached the interview stage. I got out of work for the day each time, so not too bad. None of them were for major crimes.
@capnjb@Kyeh@lisagd22@macromeh
I’ve been called 3 or 4 times but due to my involvement in the local fire, EMS, emergency room system I’m familiar with too many officers to not get expunged from many cases. The one time I actually did get selected I ended up being the jury foreman. I suspect it was because I was the only one who showed up in a shirt with buttons!
SWMBO did a stint on the county grand jury which she said was really interesting and quite eye opening.
@capnjb@Kyeh@lisagd22@chienfou Both times I’ve been called for jury duty, I went from voir dire (where the prosecution and defense question a room full of potential jurors to select a jury) directly to the trial.
My wife has served on grand jury several times. She actually enjoyed it and took a leadership role. There, they just review charges and evidence with the DA and decide if various cases should go to trial.
@capnjb the best-behaved children are, at best, 4% more tolerable than the worst. Exile them all (and their parents) to Siberia, it’s the only way to be sure.
@chienfou don’t get me started on the whole keto shite. It, like “uncured” cured meat , is just more marketing bollocks for companies to sell products. Actually putting your body into a state of ketosis for an extended period is absolutely dangerous. It’s just so frustrating listening to people spout of half science or no science bullshit because they think there’s a magic button to losing weight and have consumed way too much of the Brawndo.
@sillyheathen I can’t say anything about “keto” because I didn’t know what it was back in 2009 when I decided to shed some pounds. But 6 months of zero sugar plus six additional months of near-zero carb left me healthier than I’d ever been, and 52 pounds lighter. And although I’ve since allowed a little fat to accumulate to round certain contours, it’s been easy to keep the weight off by just avoiding sugar and carbs since. YMMV; no two people have identical metabolisms. What worked for me is just exactly that; it worked for me.
@werehatrack making real dietary changes are different than instituting fad diets. The idea of “going on a diet” is asinine to me as diet is literally what you consume. Anyway, I just think too many people are looking for easy fixes. Most people would have less health issues if they ate more whole foods and less processed shite as a whole. I just think it’s odd that people don’t do any research before blindly accepting bollocks marketing jargon.
@macromeh I keep hearing that about mac & cheese, but unless it has a bunch of other things added in - veggies, meat - I still think it’s dull. I don’t hate it, just don’t get why it’s SO popular.
@capnjb@Kyeh@tinamarie1974
I generally don’t eat boxed mac and cheese anymore. There was a time in my life though when mac and cheese was 10 boxes for a dollar and it was a substantial part of my food intake. I may have also molded hamburger into the shape of a turkey one year for Thanksgiving (back when ground beef was cheaper than turkey).
IRKs are overpriced and too easy to buy, leading me to overdosing on too much restfulness.
KuoH
It seems like all of my opinions are unpopular to somebody, so I’ll save the wear and tear and keep most of them to myself.
@werehatrack outrageous opinion, how dare you
@jouest et sic se probat
Pizza is the universal food. My Dad told me that when I was a kid, so it must be true.
@heartny I don’t know if that would be an unpopular take, honestly. I’m kinda with your dad on this one.
@heartny
As much as I generally like to argue for argument’s sake, I think this is more of a universal truism than that 42 is the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything as was written by St. Douglas of Adams.
Despite what my Da told me, I do not think dad’s know everything or are always right, but I have to agree with @Doooood on this point- no apparent controversy present here- look away…
Circus peanuts are good.
@sammydog01 Truth
@heartny @sammydog01 I don’t really like Circus Peanuts but if they are available I will just keep eating them.
@heartny @sammydog01 @yakkoTDI I like them.
@sammydog01
I agree with a caveat- that it’s just the salted, dry-roasted in the shell ones, but not the candy ones…
Sorry if we don’t agree on that.
That said, I categorically hate marshmallows except for Fluff.
@sammydog01 are you my Nana?
@jouest My grandmother was a bowl of butterscotch candies on the end table woman. With a few spares in her cardigan pocket.
@sammydog01 I once had them as a basket ingredient in one of our Chopped dinner parties. I melted them down with fresh bay leaf, ahem @capnjb, and lots of black pepper and used them to candy bacon for a salad. I also got all crunch berries cereal
in the main course. My friends think they’re funny. But they have to eat it so joke’s on them!
@sammydog01 @sillyheathen
Capn approved
And I do occasionally cook my thick cut cured bacon in the oven sprinkled with brown sugar
@capnjb @sammydog01 @sillyheathen I like all crunch berries better than Cap’n Crunch with them.
@lisagd22 @sammydog01 @sillyheathen Thems fighting words
@sammydog01 Counterpoint: marshmallows in any form are disgusting.
@macromeh @sammydog01 I used to think that until I made my own from scratch.
@macromeh @sammydog01 @sillyheathen I just had some made by a candy shop I follow on FB, and they were sooo much better than the ones from the grocery store.
@capnjb @sammydog01 @sillyheathen To be fair, I haven’t had either one in decades, so my tastes may have changed.
/image coffee is god

@Cerridwyn disagree.
I can’t stand the taste or the smell.
@kittykat9180 Well then. You are forbidden from the secret-no-so-secret coffee club
Heh

@capnjb and I’m okay with that.
@capnjb @kittykat9180 Here are two unpopular opinions about coffee: it’s about the flavor, not the caffeine; decaf coffee can taste every bit as good as caffeinated coffee.
@ItalianScallion @kittykat9180 I would posit that it depends on the decaffeination process. Some is done with water, some is done with a chemical process.
When I share coffee with people, I often get the question ‘How do I make it?’. It’s just coffee, make it like you make coffee.
Also, I’m not going to judge someone about how they prefer their coffee. I like my coffee black. But I don’t care if you add both honey and sugar with oat milk. Drink coffee the way you like it… how I like it has nothing to do with how you like it
@capnjb @kittykat9180 I’m a long time drinker of decaf and although I prefer beans that had the water process for decaffeination vs the chemical process, so as not to take in chemical residues, I had much more of the latter. I really haven’t seen a difference in taste, but as I discovered in my cooking classes, I don’t have a particularly “elevated” sense of taste.
@ItalianScallion @kittykat9180
I like coffee. You like coffee. Just enjoy it the way you like it. That is my only request 
I love to cook, but… (and this will likely get @sillyheathen coming in here swinging at me) I don’t really think bay leaves add anything to a dish
At least not dried ones. 
I should probably duck and cover at this point
@capnjb yes. You should!
I’m so sending you an entire box of bay!
@capnjb It is a subtle difference. saw a cooking YouTube channel where a steadfast doubter tasted salmon cooked without bay leaf and then when he tasted the one with bay leaf said, “dammit”
@russellmz Heh… if we were to ever share a meal at my table, I promise you that you would not get up after the meal and say, damn… I wish that dish had bay in it
I’m digging my heels in the ground here. Stubbornness is in my DNA.
LOL. Also hiding from @sillyheathen
@capnjb Im with @russellmz and @sillyheathen on this one.
I feel you MUST do a controlled test to (dis)prove your theory.
I, personally, buy mine in large quantities from Penzey’s and love adding it to all sorts of recipes. It makes a difference. And god forbid I forget to add, sure the dish is still great, but I can tell and it would have tasted even better.
@capnjb @russellmz @tinamarie1974 I’m rather spoiled in this particular matter as I have a 20’ bay in my yard. I think the problem is that most people get bay from the store and it’s just too old. I definitely prefer the flavor from the fresh bay for most applications but I do also dry it and sometimes powder it to add to rubs because it offers a depth of flavor that is really special.
@capnjb @russellmz @tinamarie1974
Big bay
@capnjb @russellmz @sillyheathen well that is spectacular!!! I find Penzy’s to be better than what I can get at the store, but I am certain it doesnt compare to fresh from the tree!!
@capnjb @russellmz @tinamarie1974 well if you ever need any, hit me up and I’ll mail you some.
@capnjb @russellmz @sillyheathen
@russellmz @sillyheathen @tinamarie1974
Wait, are starting a secret-not-so-secret Bay club???

@capnjb @russellmz @tinamarie1974 I was actually going to ask if we should combine forces and make the BayTree Coffee Club.
@russellmz @sillyheathen @tinamarie1974 Kind of feels like people would be playing golf there
@capnjb bay leaves are a scam, I’ve been using the same one since 2018
@jouest Oh, shit. I’m running before @sillyheathen gets here. Get your affairs in order quickly
The only thing more boring than playing golf is watching golf.
Mustard is good on watermelon.
Coffee sucks unless you add enough milk, sugar, and flavoring syrup to hide any coffee flavor.
Candy corn is good, and so is black liquorice.
No tea should contain sugar, no matter its temperature.
@algae1221 you’re roughly half right.
Coffee sucks, black licorice is good, and golf is boring.
@algae1221 @kittykat9180 Salty licorice is my jam and I’ll have to try mustard on watermelon. I normally do flaked sea salt on melon.
We need to revamp DST so that 7 a.m. comes right after sunset. Then it’ll be cooler for work and I might actually be awake by then
@phendrick There are 2 ways to improve DST. Get rid of it altogether or make it permanent. I can adjust either way.
@algae1221 But you get to adjust more often the way it is now.
On a side note, there is a significant consensus among health professionals that the better of the 2 paths would be to eliminate it altogether, as that would fit our natural cycles better. OTOH, our congressional critters seem to be leaning the other direction when they can be bothered (or bought) to form an opinion on the issue. Go figure.
[i’d give some references, but would be told to visit the political BS site here.]
I do enjoy airplane food and the smell of Halloween masks! Well, I enjoy my memories of airplane food when it was bad, but nowhere near as bad as it is now. And they’ve changed plastics and Halloween masks smell different and worse now; did you mean now, or ever? Up until maybe 15-20 years ago you could still get that smell in independent Halloween stores that just brought out the same old stock every year. I was somewhere in the past few years that smelled like the Kmart Halloween aisle in 1980. It was a hardware store or somewhere selling cheap floormats. It was amazing and I freaked out a little bit.
So, uh, I like smells. I love tar. A certain quality of car exhaust smells like food and makes me hungry. I like the smell of melting styrofoam and burning rubber if it’s not too strong. Bulgari Black was a great fragrance because it smelled like the tires of a new toy truck. A new toy, anyway.
@mossygreen
I’m also in the “I like airplane food” group. Unfortunately you hardly ever get any food anymore, but the meals you get on overseas flights are actually not that bad. Especially if you fly with Air France. Of course the fact that they come around for a basket full of fresh French bread to pass out a second round part way through the meal always helped.
New car smell is overpowering yet disgusting. I just want it to smell like nothing, instead of industrial cleaning chemicals and off gassing plastics.
@russellmz I don’t like new car smell either. It makes me wonder what I’m breathing in.
@kittykat9180 @russellmz
Another good reason to never buy a new car!
@chienfou I’ve had the same car since August 2008. Although, I did buy it new.
I like using public transportation and prefer it over driving or using uber (when it’s efficient).
Mentioned above but needs its own entry:
Candy corn is good.
…even when it’s melted into a brick!
@chienfou after this post, I’m questioning if we can be friends on here.
@chienfou Mmmm… sugary wax.
@chienfou. You poor, sick individual. Candy corn is not meant to be eaten. Remember how your grandparents home was dust free? That’s why they had candy corn out (also ribbon candy at Xmas) year round!
I like being called for jury duty.
@lisagd22 My 2 experiences of jury duty both involved cases of sexual abuse. Days of listening to horrible soul-crushing details (in one case, the victim was 15, same as my daughter at the time). No thanks - fortunately, I soon will be an age where participation is voluntary.
@macromeh Oh, that’s awful! I’ve done jury duty three times and only got called for one case. It was a civil case about a minor car accident–yawn. I was in the pool for an attempted murder case, but they did a plea deal during the lunch break.
@lisagd22 @macromeh I always seem to have unique circumstances that occur before I go into jury duty. When I was in Tampa, I had a jury duty date, but the night before actually turned out to be the very first time I spoke on the phone with my birth mom. (spoiler: I was adopted). I sat there in the auditorium as they were calling jurors, and I went up to the lady at the desk and said, “I just found my birth mom last night. My brain is going everywhere else but here”. She looked at me and said, “I thought I’d heard everything before, you are dismissed”.
And then here in Marland, we had property stolen and we were involved in that case when I got summoned again. The case was almost identical to my case, and I explained to the judge what I was dealing with and said it would be unlikely that I’d be able to be objective about this case because I was still angry. I was dismissed.
@capnjb @lisagd22 @macromeh I’ve been called three times but never even reached the interview stage. I got out of work for the day each time, so not too bad. None of them were for major crimes.
@capnjb @Kyeh @lisagd22 @macromeh
I’ve been called 3 or 4 times but due to my involvement in the local fire, EMS, emergency room system I’m familiar with too many officers to not get expunged from many cases. The one time I actually did get selected I ended up being the jury foreman. I suspect it was because I was the only one who showed up in a shirt with buttons!
SWMBO did a stint on the county grand jury which she said was really interesting and quite eye opening.
@capnjb @Kyeh @lisagd22 @chienfou Both times I’ve been called for jury duty, I went from voir dire (where the prosecution and defense question a room full of potential jurors to select a jury) directly to the trial.
My wife has served on grand jury several times. She actually enjoyed it and took a leadership role. There, they just review charges and evidence with the DA and decide if various cases should go to trial.
I love rain and snow. Grey days full of either are fantastic!
@tinamarie1974 Made this song pop into my head.
@yakkoTDI such a good song. Havent heard it in quite a while
Children are awful, and should be banned from polite society until they’re 25 or – to be safe – 30.
@UncleVinny I would counter with ‘Parents are awful if they don’t parent.’
That’s how you get shitty kids.
@capnjb the best-behaved children are, at best, 4% more tolerable than the worst. Exile them all (and their parents) to Siberia, it’s the only way to be sure.
@capnjb although they dont often see themselves as bad parents, rather they blame society
But spot on



@capnjb @tinamarie1974 @UncleVinny
Luckily for you your parents didn’t feel that way…
Fad diets are bloody ridiculous.
@sillyheathen
And some are just flat out dangerous!
@chienfou don’t get me started on the whole keto shite. It, like “uncured” cured meat
, is just more marketing bollocks for companies to sell products. Actually putting your body into a state of ketosis for an extended period is absolutely dangerous. It’s just so frustrating listening to people spout of half science or no science bullshit because they think there’s a magic button to losing weight and have consumed way too much of the Brawndo.
@sillyheathen
FWIW you ‘cured’ me on the bacon issue…
@sillyheathen I can’t say anything about “keto” because I didn’t know what it was back in 2009 when I decided to shed some pounds. But 6 months of zero sugar plus six additional months of near-zero carb left me healthier than I’d ever been, and 52 pounds lighter. And although I’ve since allowed a little fat to accumulate to round certain contours, it’s been easy to keep the weight off by just avoiding sugar and carbs since. YMMV; no two people have identical metabolisms. What worked for me is just exactly that; it worked for me.
@sillyheathen @werehatrack I’ll just add acute pancreatitis* is a great way to drop 60 pounds in 8 weeks
You just need a long nap. 
*Side effects may include learning how to walk again, being unable to speak for a bit and rerouting of your colon to your abdomen.
@werehatrack making real dietary changes are different than instituting fad diets. The idea of “going on a diet” is asinine to me as diet is literally what you consume. Anyway, I just think too many people are looking for easy fixes. Most people would have less health issues if they ate more whole foods and less processed shite as a whole. I just think it’s odd that people don’t do any research before blindly accepting bollocks marketing jargon.
Cereal is soup.
@heartny Au contraire. According to the infallible Cube rule cereal is in the nachos food group.
https://cuberule.com/
@algae1221 @heartny And a hot dog is a taco, not a sandwich.
@heartny I really hope you have a file on Mythical Kitchen.
If not, you need to 
@werehatrack
NO. A hot dog is a meat stick… It only becomes a taco (or sandwich) if you put it in a bun.
There is such a thing as too much garlic.
And perhaps the most unpopular, or at least controversial, of all…
A hot dog is absolutely not a sandwich.
@ItalianScallion
Correct.
See above
@chienfou Thank you. Read before posting. Yep, gotta remember that.
I wouldn’t care at all if I never got to have another Oreo or Reese’s candy, and macaroni and cheese is boring.
I just saw an article about these in my newsfeed.

I didn’t ask for them!
@Kyeh not an oreo fan either.
@Kyeh I agree re: Oreos and Reeses. And Kraft Mac&Cheese is pretty blah. But there are some Mac &Cheese recipes that are quite good.
@macromeh I keep hearing that about mac & cheese, but unless it has a bunch of other things added in - veggies, meat - I still think it’s dull. I don’t hate it, just don’t get why it’s SO popular.
@Kyeh @tinamarie1974
Oreos are cookies
Reeses is candy
That’s enough to make ME ok with both…
@chienfou @tinamarie1974 I’ll give you any that come my way. Oh, and I hate black liquorice, but I don’t think that’s such an unpopular opinion.
@Kyeh @tinamarie1974
I go thru phases with black licorice. some is definitely better than others.
@chienfou @Kyeh @tinamarie1974 Licorice is a food group.
@capnjb @Kyeh @tinamarie1974
I generally don’t eat boxed mac and cheese anymore. There was a time in my life though when mac and cheese was 10 boxes for a dollar and it was a substantial part of my food intake. I may have also molded hamburger into the shape of a turkey one year for Thanksgiving (back when ground beef was cheaper than turkey).
@Kyeh We make a Mexican mac&cheese recipe (with peppers and tomato) that is quite tasty.
@Kyeh @macromeh
I’d try that!
@capnjb @chienfou @tinamarie1974
I like that!
@macromeh Yes, that puts it into a higher category and I’d try that too!