@SkyyPunk They should just call it wifi cameras then, not wireless.
Back in the 80’s and into the 90’s, I worked for a company that sold cordless phones. Old ladies would come in and I had to sell one. It was hard for them to understand why you still needed to plug it into the wall as well as the phone line. It obviously had cords so why call it cordless? IT just brings back memories of those days whenever I see wireless when they mean wifi.
Curses! We almost tricked that @lordbowen into buying another security camera! You win this round, but you haven’t heard the last of us!!
/giphy shakes fist
@champ2015 I would say you get 1280x720. But the camera sensor is 1600 x 1200, it just doesn’t use all the power of the sensor and crops it instead. The higher resolution can be used for zoom capabilities.
Ammy description: “Enjoy electronic pan, tilt & zoom”. Several user reviews call this deceiving, as the “electronic” part means you just use software to select which part of the image is virtually zoomed in on, instead of an actual mechanical pan/tilt/zoom.
I wanted to clarify that in case anyone read that pan & tilt ability too fast.
You have to purchase motion detection. Can’t find the price, but it’s a subscription - so you’ll pay forever for what should be basic built-in functionality.
Might as well put “rip-off” on the box it comes in.
"You will be making a payment to “Seedonk Inc.” which is the corporate name for iSecurity+"
But the company at the top of the page is "imogenstudio"
I have a hard enough time justifying a subscription for anything, especially when I have tons of local storage. But when they don’t seem to know they’re own company name?
Nope, I don’t trust them.
@cengland0 Yes, quite a few. It’s only been in the last couple of years that ‘cloud’ cameras have been pushed by companies looking to turn what was a simple one time hardware purchase into a monthly revenue stream. I use a few DLink DCS-5010Ls, for example. Mine are indoor cameras, however. Some Google-Fu will find outdoor rated versions I’m sure.
I wish I didn’t have to ask, but does anyone know if this camera has, for example, an unchangeable default password, or remote open access to a telnet server…?
this has everything and the ir reviews are really good too. Except-* The camera will only work through the iSecurity+ app on a smartphone.
It has everything I want, pluse night vision. And a fantastic price! But I can’t buy it because of the above.
What a great price though.
“HP’s security unit, Fortify, determined that 70% of popular consumer IoT devices can be easily hacked”
If you do buy this, you really should set up your network with “3 dumb routers” (google it) to ensure that when these devices get hacked, they cant be used to access your computers.
Your’s sincerly,
Squishybrain, IT guy and security fanboi.
I had Windows 10 mobile phones and the only vendors that had Windows computer and phone support, in addition to iOS and Android, were D-Link and Ring Doorbell. We decided on a two prong approach to the system and storage. We got the D-Link 1080p inside unit that needs a plug for its wall wart power supply but is WiFi so no wires need be run under or over walls etc. It also has mic and speaker, as well as being able to rotate it from the phone app as well as move it up and down. It sits on top of the fridge in our open LR and kitchen and covers both doors and the hall. I set it up for local SD card recording only as it is inside and if they get that far we will already have them, we just want proof they were inside when they were shot. We got the Ring Doorbell bundle with the Ring doorbell, two stick up outside cameras that all are battery operated and charge from the same 5 volt micro USB chargers as most cell phones and other devices. We can see and hear them and they can hear us asking their business. Batteries last about a month of heavy activations from motion, up to several months for the back and front not main entrances, as the carport and main entry is the side door. Ring charges 3 bucks a month per camera to store online for 6 months and anything can be downloaded in that time to be kept for court or America’s funniest videos.
I get a tinkling sound like a high pitched wins chime for motion alerts, and a Ding-Dong when the doorbell is pressed and it has zones of motion coverage so you can tune down the alerts if it is facing a busy street. We are 300 feet from the road on five acres. Sign at entrance says “Prayer is the best way to meet your God, Trespassing is the fastest” I really don’t like the idea of all the paperwork and time for a “justified shooting” investigation thus the sign.
@RV that’s a very helpful Ring video. While Ring stuff isn’t professional grade stuff it is finally refreshing to see a company do this stuff well and reliably, even if it is only 720p. The solar power option is very cool for a wifi camera.
I’ve got some Dlink gear and it ain’t pretty. Expected more from a long established company.
@RV I’m not far behind you in age and have had a similar life long fascination with tech stuff. I have a corner full of obsolete, never was reliable X-10 automation/security/camera stuff to prove it!
My uncle is a retired figher pilot colonel. He got his love and expertise of computer technology and programming while in the Air Force.
@RedOak
I won’t lie to you, the D-Link was purchased first and if I knew then what I know now I would have just gotten a third stick up. Setting up the Ring devices is a snap and the company bends over backwards.
It took several hours on the phone while the Support lady went through several tries telling me they had to revert me to the previous version and had me write down the new model number in my user manual.
I may do that because the D-Link is very complicated and although it says 1080p, my 720 p Ring stuff is much clearer and the microphone ans speakers work much better and clearer. Netgear is still stuck on Flash instead of going 5 like the rest of the online video world. 14 years ago Netgear was King to me, then Linksys until they sold to Belkin.
The only security devices I would consider now are from Ring as they grow. I saw all kinds of issues with the removable batteries on the Arlo systems when I shopped for an got the Ring bundle with two Stickups, the Doorbell, and the Ring chime.
Easy to maintain AND initially setup, great customer support, has made me their customer for whatever more I need.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
1x Security Camera
1x Mounting Hardware
Pictures
Camera
Phone
Stuff
Straight on view
Box
Wall-E
Price Comparison
$129.99 List, $119.99 at Amazon
Warranty
1 Year Imogen
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Decent?
I hate it when they call things wireless. Where does it get power from, don’t you have to plug it in? That takes a wire.
@cengland0 I think you might need these then: https://blinkforhome.com/pages/product-pricing/
@SkyyPunk They should just call it wifi cameras then, not wireless.
Back in the 80’s and into the 90’s, I worked for a company that sold cordless phones. Old ladies would come in and I had to sell one. It was hard for them to understand why you still needed to plug it into the wall as well as the phone line. It obviously had cords so why call it cordless? IT just brings back memories of those days whenever I see wireless when they mean wifi.
@cengland0 @SkyyPunk
I get my 802.11xy Wi-Fi over Ethernet, with POE as well.
So is my Wi-Fi wired?
Did they lie to me at RadioShack?
And why is CAT 6 so much more than CAT 5e? It’s just a number and a letter.
Can’t I just d/l a Six?
Wall-E! The econo version.
Cloud recording … does that mean we’re shit outta luck if the company ends support?
@narfcake Just like any other company that has some sort of web presence.
@narfcake Bingo.
Hot Dad? Will it arrive in time for Father’s Day?
/giphy hot dad
@Mehrocco_Mole
/giphy attractive father
@Mehrocco_Mole
/8ball Will it arrive in time for Father’s Day?
It is decidedly so
Ha, I know that 8ball is lying now.
Got some nice security cams in a Fuko, so don’t need this. Nice try.
Curses! We almost tricked that @lordbowen into buying another security camera! You win this round, but you haven’t heard the last of us!!
/giphy shakes fist
@awk Pretty sure you could trick me into buying some of those $5 mini quadcopters.
There is two resolutions listed for this camera which is the correct one?.
@champ2015 I would say you get 1280x720. But the camera sensor is 1600 x 1200, it just doesn’t use all the power of the sensor and crops it instead. The higher resolution can be used for zoom capabilities.
Ammy description: “Enjoy electronic pan, tilt & zoom”. Several user reviews call this deceiving, as the “electronic” part means you just use software to select which part of the image is virtually zoomed in on, instead of an actual mechanical pan/tilt/zoom.
I wanted to clarify that in case anyone read that pan & tilt ability too fast.
Their web site hasn’t been updated for a while. But it doesn’t look good: https://imogenstudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204433985-How-to-Purchase-Motion-Detection
You have to purchase motion detection. Can’t find the price, but it’s a subscription - so you’ll pay forever for what should be basic built-in functionality.
Might as well put “rip-off” on the box it comes in.
@JohnMorris I think you get 1-day cloud recording for free and can upgrade to a 14-day for a subscription price.
Edit: And it’s $5.99 or $9.99 per month depending on the type of video recording.
"You will be making a payment to “Seedonk Inc.” which is the corporate name for iSecurity+"
But the company at the top of the page is "imogenstudio"
I have a hard enough time justifying a subscription for anything, especially when I have tons of local storage. But when they don’t seem to know they’re own company name?
Nope, I don’t trust them.
@JohnMorris Motion Detection Notification comes with this model, it does not need to be purchased
1600 x 1200, or 1280 x 720?
@Daniel319 1600 x 1200 Sensor Resolution and 1280 x 720 Video Resolution
Meh is watching you or could be watching you if you purchase this deal
@AttyVette they’re watching you either way.
Can this be used wired? I cant see any connectors in the pictures and dont know what the output specs mean by pigtail… power only?
I think Dad will love watching mom’s new friend, Uncle Steve, come by for an hour or so to help mommy with her cramps when daddy’s at work?
@mike808 if only Dale Gribble had this
@sky6rep
/image John Redcorn
Where is cloud? Delay time?
In my Own Studio(reads:Subbasement/Garage). Some people bought three of these!? Good for them(reads:Meh)!
/giphy lab experiments in the basement
I hate you giphy
/image experiment gone wrong
@WTFsunshine Join the occupy giphystreet movement!
/giphy we are the 99 percent
Apparently giphy thinks I’m a cyber bully?
@ruouttaurmind Sign me up!
/giphy ruoutaurming is not a cyber bully
@ruouttaurmind Sorry I tried. See - another reason social media sucks! I know you’re not a bully.
I love that the meh writers are P1s
Guessing no local NAS/SAN storage? Bleh.
@Ransak I know of some that you can insert SD cards to record locally but are there any wifi cameras that let you connect up to a NAS/SAN?
@cengland0 Yes, quite a few. It’s only been in the last couple of years that ‘cloud’ cameras have been pushed by companies looking to turn what was a simple one time hardware purchase into a monthly revenue stream. I use a few DLink DCS-5010Ls, for example. Mine are indoor cameras, however. Some Google-Fu will find outdoor rated versions I’m sure.
So completely over-the-top absolutely no.
I wish I didn’t have to ask, but does anyone know if this camera has, for example, an unchangeable default password, or remote open access to a telnet server…?
@ayryq Asking for a friend. Anyone know the hash rate for these cameras?
i worry about intrusion of the digital variety when it comes to WiFi security cameras.
I certainly don’t need another monthly charge…
this has everything and the ir reviews are really good too. Except-* The camera will only work through the iSecurity+ app on a smartphone.
It has everything I want, pluse night vision. And a fantastic price! But I can’t buy it because of the above.
What a great price though.
Dear mehtizens,
It is likely that the firmware for these cameras are full of security holes and will be hacked as soon as you connect it to your network. As per:
http://www.peak10.com/top-internet-things-iot-security-concerns/
“HP’s security unit, Fortify, determined that 70% of popular consumer IoT devices can be easily hacked”
If you do buy this, you really should set up your network with “3 dumb routers” (google it) to ensure that when these devices get hacked, they cant be used to access your computers.
Your’s sincerly,
Squishybrain, IT guy and security fanboi.
I had Windows 10 mobile phones and the only vendors that had Windows computer and phone support, in addition to iOS and Android, were D-Link and Ring Doorbell. We decided on a two prong approach to the system and storage. We got the D-Link 1080p inside unit that needs a plug for its wall wart power supply but is WiFi so no wires need be run under or over walls etc. It also has mic and speaker, as well as being able to rotate it from the phone app as well as move it up and down. It sits on top of the fridge in our open LR and kitchen and covers both doors and the hall. I set it up for local SD card recording only as it is inside and if they get that far we will already have them, we just want proof they were inside when they were shot. We got the Ring Doorbell bundle with the Ring doorbell, two stick up outside cameras that all are battery operated and charge from the same 5 volt micro USB chargers as most cell phones and other devices. We can see and hear them and they can hear us asking their business. Batteries last about a month of heavy activations from motion, up to several months for the back and front not main entrances, as the carport and main entry is the side door. Ring charges 3 bucks a month per camera to store online for 6 months and anything can be downloaded in that time to be kept for court or America’s funniest videos.
I get a tinkling sound like a high pitched wins chime for motion alerts, and a Ding-Dong when the doorbell is pressed and it has zones of motion coverage so you can tune down the alerts if it is facing a busy street. We are 300 feet from the road on five acres. Sign at entrance says “Prayer is the best way to meet your God, Trespassing is the fastest” I really don’t like the idea of all the paperwork and time for a “justified shooting” investigation thus the sign.
@RV hah!
@RV that’s a very helpful Ring video. While Ring stuff isn’t professional grade stuff it is finally refreshing to see a company do this stuff well and reliably, even if it is only 720p. The solar power option is very cool for a wifi camera.
I’ve got some Dlink gear and it ain’t pretty. Expected more from a long established company.
@RedOak
That 720 p is all I need. However if you want 1080p full HD the Ring doorbell pro has it:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1241884-REG/ring_88lp000ch000_ring_video_doorbell_pro.html#!
I am a 65 year old retired Air Force type and techie since my teens. And I agree that the level of sophistication is remarkable.
See my D-link answer below.
@RV I’m not far behind you in age and have had a similar life long fascination with tech stuff. I have a corner full of obsolete, never was reliable X-10 automation/security/camera stuff to prove it!
My uncle is a retired figher pilot colonel. He got his love and expertise of computer technology and programming while in the Air Force.
D-Link we got:
It works well, great phone setup support too!
@RV it must have improved greatly over the past year or so. I stopped using our Dlink camera out of app frustration.
@RedOak
I won’t lie to you, the D-Link was purchased first and if I knew then what I know now I would have just gotten a third stick up. Setting up the Ring devices is a snap and the company bends over backwards.
It took several hours on the phone while the Support lady went through several tries telling me they had to revert me to the previous version and had me write down the new model number in my user manual.
I may do that because the D-Link is very complicated and although it says 1080p, my 720 p Ring stuff is much clearer and the microphone ans speakers work much better and clearer. Netgear is still stuck on Flash instead of going 5 like the rest of the online video world. 14 years ago Netgear was King to me, then Linksys until they sold to Belkin.
The only security devices I would consider now are from Ring as they grow. I saw all kinds of issues with the removable batteries on the Arlo systems when I shopped for an got the Ring bundle with two Stickups, the Doorbell, and the Ring chime.
Easy to maintain AND initially setup, great customer support, has made me their customer for whatever more I need.
Straight talj Says I need your name address and zip code to change my number over to the phone I bought from you