@yakkoTDI Twice I was given the keys to the airport car so I could carry my luggage to the plane, returned the car to its parking spot outside the office, then walked to the plane and flew off with the keys in my pocket. Since they were the airport managers’ keys, I’d absconded with keys to the entire operation. In one case I didn’t realize it until waking up in another state.
In a home made faraday cage so that the signal can’t be boosted to unlock the doors or start the car. *This has happen to me once. Signal was boosted, car unlocked and ransacked. Neighbors car was started and driven away.
@canuk@Vrysen Oversimplified explanation: there are various ways that this works, but typically, hackers can use a cheap device to spoof the signal from your key fob and fool the car into thinking that the real key is near the car door, thus opening the door and allowing the car to be started. Keeping your key fob near the driveway or garage makes it even easier for thieves. The Faraday bag blocks outgoing and incoming signals, which keeps the hack from working. You can get a Faraday bag super cheap at the megastore of your choosing, as I did, but you can also find instructions online for making your own.
@ahacksaw@canuk I made mine using a wooden box that I painted, then lined it with aluminum foil, metal screen and more aluminum foil. Works perfectly and looks nice sitting on the kitchen counter. My friends just toss the keys in their microwave or wrap them in foil.
@ahacksaw@Vrysen ah, some day I hope to own a car with a fob and push button start. Lol I forgot that those exist and was wondering how you started the car after unlocking it, not realizing you just needed the fob to be close. You’d think these things would have better security but then I remember the kind of companies we’re talking about. I re-watched “enemy of the state” the other day and it’s crazy how that movie from 1998 stands up to today (that’s the movie that introduced me to the idea of a faraday cage)
@detailer@ircon96@mike808 Decades ago, I noticed that if you took a lump of automotive body filler that had been mixed up but left unused, and painted it dark brown, It would bear an uncanny resemblance to dog poop. Hollowing out a small space in the bottom of that fake poop provided the opportunity to create a hiding place for a key that nobody would touch.
@chienfou@Kidsandliz No, I think she can’t view that movie clip. It’s called Top Secret, evidently - never heard of it; Omar Sharif in a comedy! Try googling this:
Top Secret! (4/9) Movie CLIP - What Phony Dog Poo? (1984)
Wherever one puts them, make it the same place everyday! Do this and, barring a family prankster or a theif, I guarantee that you will almost never wonder where they are again…
Usually buried in the bottom of my carry-on luggage. On the rare occasions when I check my luggage, the keys are in my pocket. My only keys to anything of significance are to my luggage and to the three massive storage units that memorialize my former life on land.
@ThunderChicken When a close friend’s husband died, she was left with the task of clearing out the 10x30 storage bay in which the residue of their former house had been stored for over 20 years. We gave her a hand with that, but sadly, the vast majority of what was in there had been rendered junk, unrecognizable, or otherwise worthless by the passage of time. She might have continued to pay rent on the storage unit for years longer, not wanting to face all of the memories that went with having to go through the stuff, but the storage place was shutting down. Luckily, the manager of the facility said that anything that she didn’t want to take with her could just be left in there, and would go away of its own accord when the building was bulldozed.
Honest answer? In the ignition. In my defense, I live in an area with an incredibly low crime rate, and besides, nobody’s gonna steal a rusty '88 F150 with a manual transmission.
Yes I do. I sometimes even keep other people’s keys.
@yakkoTDI Same! Dont know when I will need the key to a prison door from the 1800’s but here we are!
@yakkoTDI You have a cat?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/milo-the-cat-burglar_n_2271664
@yakkoTDI I believe FBI profilers call those “trophies”
@yakkoTDI Twice I was given the keys to the airport car so I could carry my luggage to the plane, returned the car to its parking spot outside the office, then walked to the plane and flew off with the keys in my pocket. Since they were the airport managers’ keys, I’d absconded with keys to the entire operation. In one case I didn’t realize it until waking up in another state.
In a home made faraday cage so that the signal can’t be boosted to unlock the doors or start the car. *This has happen to me once. Signal was boosted, car unlocked and ransacked. Neighbors car was started and driven away.
@Vrysen I need more details after a comment like that! Is a certain make/model vulnerable? How common is that?
@canuk @Vrysen Oversimplified explanation: there are various ways that this works, but typically, hackers can use a cheap device to spoof the signal from your key fob and fool the car into thinking that the real key is near the car door, thus opening the door and allowing the car to be started. Keeping your key fob near the driveway or garage makes it even easier for thieves. The Faraday bag blocks outgoing and incoming signals, which keeps the hack from working. You can get a Faraday bag super cheap at the megastore of your choosing, as I did, but you can also find instructions online for making your own.
@ahacksaw @canuk I made mine using a wooden box that I painted, then lined it with aluminum foil, metal screen and more aluminum foil. Works perfectly and looks nice sitting on the kitchen counter. My friends just toss the keys in their microwave or wrap them in foil.
@ahacksaw @Vrysen ah, some day I hope to own a car with a fob and push button start. Lol I forgot that those exist and was wondering how you started the car after unlocking it, not realizing you just needed the fob to be close. You’d think these things would have better security but then I remember the kind of companies we’re talking about. I re-watched “enemy of the state” the other day and it’s crazy how that movie from 1998 stands up to today (that’s the movie that introduced me to the idea of a faraday cage)
@canuk @Vrysen I love Enemy off the State!
Kitchen table till my wife moves them and I complain that I can’t find my keys
My keys go where they please, we have an agreement they just should return before the morning.
Apparently I keep them in most anyplace I can’t readily find them.
Those, and my glasses.
@phendrick How do you get your keys to stay on your head?
@ircon96 I hook them behind my ears.
Then I’ll know where to find them when I look for my glasses.
@phendrick That makes sense. I don’t care what they say about you!
@ircon96 Well, of course!
Wherever I set them down last.
Hanging off a magnet on the side of the fridge.
In my pile. The wife has her piles (of stuff), I have mine.
Why do you want to know where I keep them? Sounds suspicious
While I am at it, Get off my lawn!!
@tinamarie1974 Next thing we know, our cars are going to come up missing.
They rest on my dresser (along with a lot of other stuff) or they could be in yesterday’s pants.
I velcro them next to the lock they belong to so I don’t lose them.
@mike808 You should velcro one of those fake key-hiding rocks next to the lock so it won’t be so obvious to burglars. You’re welcome.
@ircon96 @mike808 Right…because no burglar(and most of the free world) has ever seen one of those
@detailer @ircon96 @mike808 Decades ago, I noticed that if you took a lump of automotive body filler that had been mixed up but left unused, and painted it dark brown, It would bear an uncanny resemblance to dog poop. Hollowing out a small space in the bottom of that fake poop provided the opportunity to create a hiding place for a key that nobody would touch.
@detailer @ircon96 @mike808 And because phony dog poo…
@detailer @mike808 I think they’re VERY realistic-looking, especially when stuck to a wall as i suggested!
@werehatrack
@detailer @ircon96 @mike808
Especially if you have an indoor climbing wall:
@Kyeh Is this amazing wall yours? I’ve wanted one of these forever!
@brmarwedel No!
I just found an image on Google. It would be fun, though, wouldn’t it?
@werehatrack what is that photo of? Is just a black box on my computer.
@Kidsandliz
bunch of holds for an indoor climbing wall.
@chienfou @Kidsandliz No, I think she can’t view that movie clip. It’s called Top Secret, evidently - never heard of it; Omar Sharif in a comedy! Try googling this:
Top Secret! (4/9) Movie CLIP - What Phony Dog Poo? (1984)
@Kyeh
oh
@chienfou @Kyeh Yes the problem was I couldn’t view the video clip.
@Kyeh
Good point!
All I carry anymore is my car key fob, which is attached to an AirTag. My front door has a keypad and I’ve worked from home since 07. No other keys!
@kostia Keypad locks are the best. I carry a key for the mostly unused old lock just in case, but it rarely leaves my purse.
In a dice tray on the night stand along with all of my other pocket stuff.
Wherever one puts them, make it the same place everyday! Do this and, barring a family prankster or a theif, I guarantee that you will almost never wonder where they are again…
@sicc574 … or a toddler …
@sicc574 Or a cat.
Or a
goatbird.Usually buried in the bottom of my carry-on luggage. On the rare occasions when I check my luggage, the keys are in my pocket. My only keys to anything of significance are to my luggage and to the three massive storage units that memorialize my former life on land.
@ThunderChicken When a close friend’s husband died, she was left with the task of clearing out the 10x30 storage bay in which the residue of their former house had been stored for over 20 years. We gave her a hand with that, but sadly, the vast majority of what was in there had been rendered junk, unrecognizable, or otherwise worthless by the passage of time. She might have continued to pay rent on the storage unit for years longer, not wanting to face all of the memories that went with having to go through the stuff, but the storage place was shutting down. Luckily, the manager of the facility said that anything that she didn’t want to take with her could just be left in there, and would go away of its own accord when the building was bulldozed.
@ThunderChicken You live on a boat now?
@Kidsandliz @ThunderChicken
Has been living the cruise life for quite some time if I am not mistaken.
@Kidsandliz About 65-70 percent of my time. The rest of the time I live in AirBnBs near the cruise ports.
@werehatrack Was it all from Meh?
@ThunderChicken That sounds like a lot of fun.
@Kidsandliz It is!
On the hallway credenza next to my phone Qi. Actually 2 fobs and one key on a ring.
on the kitchen counter by the garage door
Honest answer? In the ignition. In my defense, I live in an area with an incredibly low crime rate, and besides, nobody’s gonna steal a rusty '88 F150 with a manual transmission.
@dannybeans Especially not if they don’t have a trust fund to pay for the fuel!
@dannybeans
https://www.hagerty.com/media/advice/a-few-things-to-know-before-you-steal-my-914/
@dannybeans @werehatrack
That’s fantastic.
@dannybeans @ircon96
Doubly so if it’s diesel!
@chienfou @dannybeans Exactly! My furnace uses kerosene & I’ve never been so relieved to be able to shut it down for the season! Yeesh.
On a table where I set my purse.
Hanging on my purse, with my keychain collection.
On the key rack by the front door.
I’m just hoping no one I have sent crap to in gift exchanges posts here. I don’t want to be blamed.
@ThunderChicken
Walterbird can handle it for you.