@ruouttaurmind and @jandrese thanks friendos. Today I told workbro I didn’t have to write something down because I had stored it in the 386 CPU of my mind. Workbro just stared at me and asked me how many cores it had.
As I approach my 60th on Friday, I’m wondering if I might not be as cutting edge as I used to be.
@ruouttaurmind Not totally. Was gifted a 1gig he for my birthday in 1994. Quite the generous gift as they were selling for around a grand at the time. I suspect that the gifter acquired it with a five finger discount from Micropolis where they were employed though.
Wayyyy more storage than I needed for my basic 386 running Windows 3.1, so I traded it with a BBS operator’s 320MB drive. Yes, back then this laptop would have knocked our socks off. (If we ever figured out what those odd rectangular ports we’re used for)
@ciabelle I’ve mentioned in other threads… buying a 100MB SCSI drive for my Mac for $1,000 and thinking I was after getting a bargain. And don’t get me started on the 256k chip I paid a bundle for so I could be sporting 512k in my XT.
@canneddirt You can. Windows store, look for Ubuntu on Windows. It’s not exactly a VM, but it literally runs ELF binaries and is full-frontal Ubuntu. Requires a one-time Powershell enablement, but works on Win10 Home, and doesn’t require Pro.
@canneddirt@radi0j0hn You can disable SecureBoot if you don’t want to use it, but most current distros support using it. Any device that has an Intel or AMD processor w/ Win10 must let you disable SecureBoot and let you provide your own keys. Otherwise, you can’t really disable UEFI- that’d be like asking to disable the BIOS (which is what UEFI is- it’s the successor to BIOS).
@dashcloud and @radi0j0hn Ah! Probably need to bone up on this. I just remember the controversy around the launch of Win8 or Win10 of Microsoft not requiring OEMs to provide a way to disable secureboot from UEFI. This was seen as a sneaky way of locking PCs to windows. It seems HP does allow secureboot disabling, so no worries here.
@canneddirt@radi0j0hn There indeed was a controversy, and a fear that that exact thing could happen, so this is the compromise written into the Win10 certification docs (unless you have an ARM-only device, previously just WindowsRT, which can’t have SecureBoot turned off, or at least not required to let you do so).
Could be big with Baltimore Ravens fans, they dig purple. Or fans of grapes, them too. Also very theft resistant, since who’s gonna wanna steal a purple laptop, and it would be easy to spot a culprit using it.
These specs are okay for a Chromebook, but not for a Windows 10 system.
The 4 GB of RAM is adequate for basic purposes (2 GB is practically unusable, so 4 GB should be considered the bare minimum), but a 32 GB drive makes for constant frustration, with every significant Windows update becoming a juggling act. I wouldn’t go below 64 GB, even on laptop intended for occasional use.
If having a decent keyboard is important to you, avoid HP and Dell and look for something from Lenovo or Acer.
@Rowsdower Agreed. The slow processor can still be usable for someone who only does simple stuff like email and web browsing. The 4GB RAM is adequate. That 32GB though… insurmountable. I would definitely have sent one to Mom at this price, but I can only imagine the endless hours of phone calls trying to talk her through recovering from a failed Windows update.
I think you’d be safer using the Chrome Download Manager extension and prepping a flash drive with an HP “FALCO” image. A google for that ISO name in that link you provided revealed all kinds of downloads sites, but not a respectable parent site like CloudReady or Chromium.org. I wouldn’t risk signing in with my credentials on what appears to be a one-hit wonder (release).
I bought three Streams brand new for my kids a couple of years ago. Biggest mistake ever. They’re absolute garbage. Only one of them made it more than 6 months without having to be completely restored, and there wasn’t enough capacity for the kids to even try to abuse them. If you want an outdated OS and room for a halfway decent antivirus, but not much else? Go for it.
I just bought an ASUS L402SA, which is pretty much the same thing spec-wise. Windows 10 is super dumb about disk space, and happily downloaded way too many updates that then could not be installed. I had to clear the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download folder and start over. Bought a SanDisk USB 3.1 128GB flash drive, and Windows does allow you to use that when updating. But it is a bit of a PITA. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4013876/windows-10-freeing-up-space-to-install-latest-update
This was bought as a gift for a friend, and I am seriously worried about how well he will be able to handle future updates if there are space issues. I think I’m just going to throw in the flash drive and tell him to not remove it.
Just saying for 100 bucks I just picked up a used Dell e6410 (14in. screen)with an I5 m560 2.6 GHz processor, 8 gig of ddr3 ram 500 gig hard drive, and windows 10 Including an optical drive fingerprint reader and 4 USB ports and an HDMI port , and for 20 bucks more picked up another unit same model missing the hard drive so now I have all the spare parts for the working one all with free delivery. The machine runs magnificently. From past experience I’m telling you the model offered will frustrate the hell out of you don’t even think about opening up 2 tabs it will be slower than a turtle moonwalking One of the few times I have ever said this in 5 years as a Meh head tonight’s deal is a (“BAD DEAL”)
@mellowirishgent used laptops can be a good deal for sure, but don’t discount the fact that the battery has been cycled hundreds of times, is operating at lower capacity and will soon need to be replaced. And same goes for the hard drive.
Both units came with 9 volt batteries that appear to be fully charging and I just bought another new 9v battery for 14 bucks on ebay so I’m good for approx 10 hours of runtime, when the hard drive goes I’ll replace it with an SSD , but I understand your point and TY
@mellowirishgent I think you mean 19V battery. But, just a heads-up, I bought a $14 replacement battery for my 9-year-old Dell E6400 about a year ago. After one year, I can get about 20 minutes of runtime out of it.
Having Windows 10 on a system with only 32GB of storage is a real pain when it comes to major updates. You have to have a flash drive installed with at least 10 gigabytes of space available for updates like the spring creators update or the recent fall 2018 update.
I just went through this on a HP stream identical to this and it kept telling me I needed to clear storage space and no matter what I tried I didn’t have enough room and finally they gave me an option for a flash drive which for which I was like why didn’t they give me this option to begin with!!
@rtjhnstn@sjk3 I dunno, but there are a lot of forum posts from 2015-16 suggesting that the main thing standing between Chromium (and, I suspect, other Linuces) is the user’s willingness to install a DRM plugin called Widevine.
This doesn’t seem like a very good price. However, I’m not sure what some of you are talking about when you say because it has 32GB of space it can never be updated. I have two tablets with that amount (and only 2GB RAM), and have never had any problems updating them. And one of them started with Windows 8.1 and updated to 10 with no issues. So unless there are special rules for tablets, or having a microSD card in makes it work, I’m not sure that’s accurate.
What is the newest major update and what’s the minimum amount of space required to install it?
@Al_Coholic If you look on newegg.com you will see some refurbished chromebooks for 25% to 33% of the original costs-so this one which is over 50% of the cost of a new one is not a good deal even if it works.
FYI, Blinq has this as an open box for about the same price this weekend (if you live in CA like me and get taxed at 9%+). And you’ve got a better shot at getting warranty coverage from the manufacturer on an open box (but happy to be proven wrong on that).