@dizzyhart That’s why I get my hair cut at places that don’t color hair. Great Clips is my go to. They supposedly do permanents, but I’ve never seen or smelled that in one of their stores. They aren’t in style anymore, good riddance.
@Gypsigirl213@Kidsandliz It does grow really fast but each cut is also shorter than the last. At the start I could sit on my hair, now it’s just below the shoulders. The color was Clairol Nice and Easy 6.5G, now it’s lighter (8G).
@Kidsandliz Different organizations have different guidelines. Children with Hair Loss states: Non-chemically treated hair is preferred (but any hair in good condition will be accepted). Gray is also accepted. The wigs are always free to the children. Those are the three reasons I choose this group. Children With Hair Loss
@Kidsandliz I thought I remembered reading that it doesn’t matter how old it is as long as it was kept properly but I can’t find it.
Interesting note from Pantene Beautiful Lengths: Over the last several years, synthetic-hair technology has vastly improved, giving synthetic hair wigs more of a “real-hair” feel, making them lighter, cooler to wear, and easier to style. With these advancements, synthetic wigs are now the preferred wig choice for cancer patients. This change in patient need has resulted in decreased demand for real-hair wigs at the American and Canadian Cancer Societies, and as a result the time has come to wind down the Beautiful Lengths program.
I expect more programs to go in this direction. My mother had a synthetic wig and it was really nice.
*Sorry @mike808 I just read the whole article you posted.
I let it go until someone sends me a coupon big enough to make getting it cut economical. When did it become OK for a man’s haircut to cost so much particularly when it typically takes about five minutes and is largely accomplished with electric clippers?
@olsenrj When people who make their living from cheapskates that only come by every 2-3 months have to pay the same rent, food, transportation, and educational loan costs you do. That last one is now 20 times what it was 30 years ago for the Gen-Xers. And barbers/stylists have to go to specialized colleges, just like nurses, veterinarians, engineers, lawyers, doctors, electricians, and plumbers, to practice their craft. And those college tuition costs rose 20x like all the other college costs have, and so get passed on to you, the customers of all of those in these careers. This is the price of student loans to all of us.
So yeah, cut your hair stylist a break. They also have to be licensed by the state, just like your lawyer and doctor, so maybe vote for politicians to get rid of those useless regulations, licensing boards, and administrative costs to these businesses instead of spending their time trying to legislate what goes on in someone else’s uterus or what country they came from if it wasn’t more than 2 generations or decades ago.
And yet we have no problem paying a couple hundred for an accountant (or software and your time) to do our taxes once a year, when it could all be automatic anyway (as in the government sends you your prefilled 1040-EZ and sign if the refund/owed amount is correct).
Or a plumber $80/hr just to show up at your house to fix a leaky sink in 5 minutes.
On top of that, the haircut franchises/chains steal more of what little wages they make through 1099 labor to get out of healthcare, retirement, and tax collecting costs while guilting you, the customers, into making up the difference from a living wage in tips.
@mike808@olsenrj I mean, without the regulations and if just anyone could cut hair, I suspect you’d find a lot of disgusting practices that are unhygienic. The point of the regulations and licensing is to ensure a standard of hygiene, which is extremely important. The fix would be to offer low cost or free tuition to end the cycle of debt from student loans, which as you said, also raises the cost of services.
And it’s ok to be cheapskate. Some of us have to be. Not everyone can afford the price hikes related to the rape that is college tuition. Maybe he can only afford to get his hair cut when it’s at a lower price. I wouldn’t chide someone for that.
@Gypsigirl213@mike808@olsenrj My daughter wanted to be a cosmetologist (unfortunately she dropped out as she would have been very good at this). It was a 4 semester program with about $750 in junk like hair dyers, scissors, wigs to cut, nail stuff, etc. and books and a total of $4000 in tuition. They also had to take some other community college courses as they also got an associates degree. Magnolia college (for profit), at the time, charged (at the time) $13 or 14,000 and loose change (can’t remember the exact amount anymore) plus books and supplies, although the program was shorter. The smart choice was the community college and with PELL grants, little to nothing in student loans.
@mike808 You misunderstand people who don’t want to pay a lot for haircuts. It’s not that we believe the stylist isn’t worth the amount of money, it’s that we think that OUR hair/appearance isn’t worth a lot of money. The same with cars, houses, or anything else. Some people want a car to get them from here to there, others want speed, gadgets etc.
We all have things we would or wouldn’t spend on.
@callow I agree with @mike808 although I’d add that sometimes it is a budget thing too where haircuts become a want and not a need. And if we are in a situation where it has to be cut and we have no other choice, we hunt for the cheapest place. Because that is the only way we can afford to get it cut.
@callow@Kidsandliz Then buy a beard trimmer/razor for under $50 (or used and clean it yourself) if money is that tight and pay yourself nothing for your haircuts.
Just don’t use your cheapskate nature as justification for treating someone as if they don’t deserve a living wage for providing you with a needed service. That said, many services and things in modern life are highly regressively priced, and only perpetuate the unsustainable economic disparity between the haves and the have nots.
The only reason barbers are licensed is because historically, they also practiced what was at the time believed to be “medicine” - leeches, bloodlettings, and other since debunked practices. There were guilds for barbers, and those institutions have remained in the form of the “licensed professions” we see today.
@mike808 People can charge whatever they feel is fair for their services. And I can choose not to use their services. Capitalism. End of story. I choose not to pay to get my hair cut because I can trim it myself and that money is needed to pay for more basic things like rent. Calling me cheapskate in a derogatory manner is unnecessary. I am frugal because of life’s circumstances. I budget carefully and it is my belief that if you can’t afford it because it is over budget or not in the budget, even if you want it, then don’t buy it. Also end of story.
As a side note: a beard trimmer/razor wouldn’t be useful to cut my hair. In my case scissors work better.
@mike808 I don’t treat anyone like they don’t deserve a living wage! I simply don’t get haircuts often. When I do I find a lower cost salon, don’t get anything fancy, am always nice to the stylist, and tip well.
I do own clippers to cut my husband’s hair.
My son likes being pampered and happily pays well for it.
i once went six years without a haircut, and it probably wasn’t the first time. i’ve been trying to be better about it, since my hair does look much better when i get it cut regularly. i don’t know why i don’t, honestly. my friend who has been cutting my hair since she went to hair school has moved up all the ranks and opened her own salon which is amazing. (shameless plug for moonbaby in salem, MA!) still, i probably only make it in every four months because i’m kind of a hermit.
now dying it, that i still do myself because i can’t afford to have it done at a salon. i’ve had it salon dyed a handful of times and it is absolutely worth every penny but i just don’t have that kind of money. it’s one of the things i daydream about getting to have done regularly if i was rich. fortunately i am good at dying it myself, it’s just a pain and my arms get tired lol.
@jerk_nugget OMG ME TOO! I go as long as possible and truth to tell, I’m a total recluse (by choice). The longest I went was also 6 years (weird coincidence). And I have that same “I don’t know why I actively avoid it” issue with haircuts. It’s not fear or anxiety, at least not consciously, but I avoid doing it. I think you’re doing great at every 4 months or so. I wish I could even get to that point. I go years without. I just let it grow and grow until I can’t stand it and then get it all cut off and start over. My hair grows super slow, so that’s usually every 3-5 years. I’m on year 2 right now from the last cut-it-all-off part of the cycle and I’m nowhere near ready to cut it. I’m estimating it’ll be another 5 year cycle this time. I only got it cut two years ago because a friend gifted me a haircut—as in she dragged me to the salon and paid for it.
@Gypsigirl213@jerk_nugget the longer you wait the slower your hair appears to grow. When you don’t cut it you get damaged ends (split ends) and the hair actually breaks off. By getting it cut regularly you keep the ends healthy and reduce breakage, making your hair appear to grow faster
@jerk_nugget I color my hair too, not just for the money, but I hate the smell of ammonia and the last time I had it colored at a salon it took three hours. I wanted to gouge my eyes out by the end. This was before smart phones could keep my mind busy for that long. Never again.
Shameless plug: Madison Reed has the best no ammonia hair color. And I’ve tried them all.
@jerk_nugget@tinamarie1974 I don’t use heat or styling products and mostly do ACV rinses instead of stripping my hair with shampoo, so I don’t get dead ends at all, no matter how long I go without a haircut. It’s au natural for me.
What causes split ends?
While split ends can develop rapidly due to extreme damage, they usually develop slowly as the result of small damaging factors. Some of the most common processes that damage and degrade the end of your hair cuticle are…
Physical damage and manipulation. This includes styling, brushing, detangling, handling and touching your hair, all of which break down the cuticle little by little.
Heat. Heat tools are one of the fastest ways to cause split ends. Excessive heat causes extreme damage to ends that are already stressed by other factors.
Friction. Some fabrics and materials cause more damage to your cuticle than others. Hats, scarves, and sweaters accelerate the develop of split ends, as do cotton pillowcases and towels. If your hair is long enough that it brushes the back of your shirt or jacket, this causes damage too.
friction and cold cause split ends
Environment. Wind, cold, heat, sun, dry climates, humid climates… it seems like no matter what the weather, it takes a toll on your hair. And if you frequently style your hair in wash 'n gos, afros, puffs, or styles that expose your ends to the environment, this accelerates the damage.
Internal factors. Your diet, the water your drink, and the overall health of your body impact the strength of your hair. If your body is dehydrated, malnourished, or protein-deficient, your hair will be too, and thus more susceptible to split ends.
@Gypsigirl213 lol i know what you mean - i actually have a handful of friends who are stylists and after one of my six year stints the only reason it ended is because a friend was in need of a model for a job interview of sorts. so she dragged me there and it was free XD otherwise probably never would have made it lol.
@Fuzzalini i dye my hair with vivids, so no ammonia or mixing (except color blending) required, thankfully. no smell, no itch, you can leave it on for ages and nothing bad will happen and most actually condition the hair. i use arctic fox most of the time these days which smells like grape haha. i used to do box black ages ago, but i’ve sworn off box dye.
@jerk_nugget Arctic Fox looks really cool. If I had the nerve to wear it or perhaps changed careers, I would go for some purple hair. Do you think it would color grey hair as well as Platinum? It seems like it might.
@Fuzzalini i’ve never worked on full gray hair, but i have some grays in my roots now and it always covers no problem. you really only need platinum for the pastels anyway - the darker the color the less you would need to lighten. if you ever do decide to do it you can always drop them a line ahead of time - they’re really great about answering questions IME. i also like that sally beauty now carries it, so i don’t have to order online and pay shipping.
@Gypsigirl213@jerk_nugget well forgive me if I err on the side of science. But if you truly have found a way to avoid a single split end on at least 100,000 hairs on your head, you need to go straight to corporate america and sell the fountain of youth that you have discovered
Growing up my mom cut my hair (I was growing it long though so she mostly just trimmed the ends to even it out). I had it past my waist until I was 31 when I cut it for stupidity reasons. Now I get it cut only when I go to the cancer center as they give free haircuts (and the woman who does them is really good) and professional hair cuts right now are a want and not a need. I did get it cut once in between that as I had a professional job interview (and I got that 9 mo temp job) and it needed to look really nice. I do trim it myself to even out the uneven growth and have gotten good at that, however, given a choice I’d actually pay to get it cut on occasion.
@Kidsandliz You know, I think my avoidance of haircuts comes from living on a “wants” vs “needs” basis for so long. I went about a decade not being able to afford haircuts, so I guess I’ve just learned to live without them. Remember flowbees? My sperm donor and step-witch used a flowbee to cut their hair. I was always too chicken to try it.The Flowbee
I’m currently on a 2-3 times a year schedule. Traditionally, I get a hair cut in the late summer, early fall since I tend to do a lot of sweaty work in late August/early September with the start of the new school year (university). I usually let it grow out through winter to keep warm, and then get another cut in the spring once it warms back up.
My mom always cut my hair, and when I got married, she taught my wife to cut it.
I used to date this girl for years. Her mom was a hair dresser and she wanted her mom to cut my hair every 8 weeks to the day. I wanted to grow it out, her mom thought it’d look nice if I grew it out. She cheated on me, and blamed her depression on me the same week my grandmother died and I was in a car accident. I haven’t got it cut since