Terrible…My cat(Sophie)is 12 years old and just started limping… I’m glad she has had a great life it just makes me sad cause she was my sons cat and he moved out across the country, and she’s all I have.
@Kidsandliz@ragingredd well all of that. Obviously first. I’ve seen some of the cats take a fall from the upstairs so like 14 ft to hard wood. They rotate fast But they aren’t 12. I panic a little and check on them when they calm down and I can find them.
Maybe also talk to your son? If you’re missing him? Like. I answer when my mom calls. I just. Don’t think to call people. It’s not how my brain is wired. most of the time I also don’t have much to say. Cause IDK. It’s not interesting? My limit is about on here.
I’m not a very social person so I don’t always parse things the same as other people.
But there were a lot of things I could have helped with if my mom had told me. IDK. Maybe entirely different with your situation. And even if it was the same maybe it’s not fair.
Maybe it’s just new and he’s focused on it. I still think it’s ok to talk about it.
@Kidsandliz@ragingredd that happened to my cat at about age 10. Brought him to a really nice cats-only vet. They felt around and moved his legs and said he will probably get better, which he did eventually. We never figured out what he did to get “injured,” he was indoor-only.
At that age even though we think cats are indestructible, they are just like us at an older age and can get joint and muscle issues more easily and not bounce back as quickly. Oh, to be a kitten again!
I did set up a low bench next to the bed so he had an easier way to get in and out of bed, but he didn’t always use it.
@ragingredd What happens when you test that leg or paw? Is there any reaction (because it hurts)? Feel the paw pad. Is it warm? That’s a good sign, means it’s still getting blood flow.
Are there any other signs? Discomfort, not eating, anything out of the ordinary?
Twelve is considered old for a cat (yeah, I know, I know…we’ve had cats live into their twenties). But cats do get arthritis. And just like us older folk, sometimes just twisting the wrong way brings on pain.
@ragingredd she’s a very beautiful muted calico and looks like she could be my cat’s sister. Please do take her to the vet if you can. If it is arthritis, a heating pad may help if all the other causes are ruled out. Missy loves her heating pad.
@ragingredd my 14 yr. old Calico is experiencing hip pain from arthritis. I got her on Gabapentin and she is doing great; playing like a kitten again. I give her about 30mg nightly in her wet food. It’s a fine powder in a capsule that I break open and sprinkle about 1/3 in her food. The vet prescribed 100mg but she is very sensitive to it and it knocked her out cold. The reduced dose is just right and she’s doing great.
@lisaviolet I know 12 is old lol I’ve lucked out with Sophie, my first 2 cats got put down before age 3. 1 had cancer in his lymph nodes and the 2nd one had congested heart failure and then kidney failure. 3rd cat was an out side cat and got eaten by an animal, Sophie’s been with me sense the second cat.
But when I check her legs she wines and cries out. But I’m calling the vet tomorrow. I just want her to be comfortable. She might be 12 but she still acts like a kitten. But shes still eating just moving slow and I’ll just pick her up and walk down the stairs for her, I live in NH and in a old house with steep stairs so its the least I can do, she can still walk up them. But hopefully the vet can help. Thank you she is loved!
The combination of what ought to have happened for me today but didn’t (personal issue), and the implications of what did happen (national issues), makes this one of the worst days of my life to date.
@werehatrack technically we don’t know yet. On the political bullshit. But republicans have waged a long hard fight against people. Trying to turn them against their own interest and back to serfs for the rich. At a state level. And medle with election results. Mail in ballots are not fully counted yet. And maybe they got away with it. It was literally in their playbook. To gerrymander and put in corrupt laws and work their way up the chain.
I’m sorry about your situation. Id literally consider leaving the country at this point if I were you. And had the means.
Although. According to Trump and the supreme Court. Biden could just drone strike him.
@unksol@werehatrack Just like the “safe harbor” provided by the democrats to immigrants and the lack of ID requirements for voting have nothing to do with their push…
For context, I live down the street from several of the facilities used to house refugees and unfortunately, these people with genuine and real hardships are being used as political pawns. It’s rather infuriating on many levels.
@werehatrack@zinimusprime you are required to identify yourself to vote. No election has had any percentage of immigrants vote. It’s checked and verified against your registration to vote. It’s a two step process. You can’t just show up and vote.
It’s also a crime that would draw attention to you. And temporary people do not commit crimes for exactly that reason.
@unksol@zinimusprime They don’t commit such pointless crimes which have no benefit to them and carry such a significant risk, in any event. It would be just as foolish to assume that all undocumented aliens have crminal intent as it is to assume that no elected officials do.
@unksol@werehatrack, I just received the go ahead from the president of the company I work for to move abroad and keep my job (I work remote). It’ll probably be 8 or so months as I have just torn out my backyard to begin landscaping the whole thing. The cost and the time to get my house prepared to rent is the delay.
@kittykat9180@werehatrack well wasn’t saying we should all flee the country. But for some people. It may make a lot of sense. To give up on America. The amount of damage they want to do. May take America off the world stage. Never mind how badly they plan to treat people. And corrupt future elections. This is so depressing.
@lisaviolet he’s getting pretty old and already showing signs of losing his mind. I’ll be surprised if he makes it 4 years.
The last 3 republicans presidents ended their term in recession. I’ve been debating when I think the next one will start under trump (again). I am thinking it will begin during 2026.
@kittykat9180@lisaviolet Certainly could happen. Younger and more competent and not nearly as entertaining as reality-show-man.
Question is would Elon Musk allow it? Pretty sure he will be running things from behind the scenes the next few years. His cars and rockets work very well though. Definitely the smartest guy in the room. And creepy, but not as creepy as Vance, and that’s saying something!
EDIT a few minutes after I type that, national news says Elon Musk will be instrumental in choosing people for cabinet positions. And so it begins….
@unksol@werehatrack You are largely correct, they’re usually not drawing attention to themselves, but we just had one in our town commit sexual assault and get deported. So the assertion that they do not commit any crimes is false, but let me be clear and say that the majority of them don’t commit crimes.
However, I literally just showed up yesterday and was not required to show ID. You can say whatever you like, I was not required to show proof of identification and I live in a VERY blue state. I had to state my name, but that was it. They just checked my name against a PAPER registry. No verification required. I don’t think they’re sending waves of immigrants to the polls as it would draw lots of attention, but I do think that it is happening on a smaller scale. Is it enough to make a dent, I don’t know, but it would be naïve to assume that voter fraud never happens.
They don’t commit such pointless crimes which have no benefit to them and carry such a significant risk, in any event. It would be just as foolish to assume that all undocumented aliens have crminal intent as it is to assume that no elected officials do.
I don’t think that all undocumented people have criminal intent at all (I come from a family of immigrants for context). I would say the majority of them don’t, but similar to any cross section of society, some of them do. But to assume that no voter shenanigans are happening is naïve and short-sighted. Some of these swing state results don’t take a lot to sway
I have had an unexpected thing go right. The personal issue that went wrong has been followed by a second development that will reduce the level of distress considerably as long as everything associated with it is handled properly. I have 65 days in which to guide it to an acceptable result, and it may very well take a varying amount of attention to detail on every single one of them to get it to conclude successfully. (In other words, I will be all over a certain office staff like a coat of paint until this has been seen to a successful conclusion.)
@werehatrack@zinimusprime obviously I don’t mean no immigrants commit crimes. But statisticly it’s lower than non immigrants per the FBI/all criminal stats. They have no protections at all if they do.
Honestly, I’m able to see the humor in the absurd situation for now. I know bad things are coming, but useless to be too upset about them before they hit…
… also, dual-citizenship (and the ability to pick up a third if I need it) helps at a time like this, I have an out should things get really dangerous for me.
@OnionSoup it’s like reality show Season 2 was renewed!
My only other consolation is that my mother who died this year at age 95 would be happy. I’m still having to deal with her accounts and mail. She was getting 3-5 pieces of postal mail a week from Trump campaign, from RNCC, from Eric Trump, from Lara Trump. For a while I used their postage-paid envelopes to send back the stuff saying Deceased and Please Remove, but nothing could stop the barrage of Trump Mail to her street mailbox.
@pmarin she must have been in a swing state. I don’t think I got a single piece of political propaganda sent to me from either party (Presidential at least, I got state level stuff). I think this is the first time I’ve received zero Presidential junk mail.
@OnionSoup No it was Oregon. But it was all fundraising. Hence the envelopes to send in your checks. Old people like to use checks. Don’t know if she ever sent them any money. But once you got Elon Musk funding you, old people checks don’t matter much anyway.
@OnionSoup@pmarin My BIL (the one who’s still alive even though his body is riddled with cancer) told my husband that he felt really bad that he could no longer afford to send money to the red hat grifters. He even tried to explain it to them and the begging didn’t stop.
@mcemanuel If you’re a member of a target group that the incoming President has promised will receive special attention like having their marriage annulled, or their health care needs outlawed at the Federal level, or their gender change legally nullified, or their right to vote stripped, or any of a myriad of other unconscionable acts, January 21st, 2025 is going to be an incredibly frightening day. And January 22nd through the next inauguration (assuming he allows one, ending that’s another of his promises) even more so. If I could leave, I’d be preparing my exit now, but there is no nation that will have me because of my age.
@mcemanuel@werehatrack well. Or you think the middle class is fine and that that he wont destroy the economy with tariffs, tax us to give to the wealthy, let an insane Kennedy strip all health care protection and an insane billionaire ruin the rest.
All of which he has promised to do.
So everyone bitching about the best economy that he has sworn up an down to destroy like he did the first time around
@mcemanuel@werehatrack and just to be clear. Presidents don’t have much direct impact on the economy. To the extent the government does it takes a bit for policies to take affect.
Trump got credit for all the work that Obama and that Congress/Senate did. As it kicked in
He spent his entire administration trying to undo it. He managed to destroy our preparation right before a pandemic. And tried over and over to repeal Obamacare/the affordable care act. The only reason you can get health insurance now under that is cause they failed. He took your taxes and gave them to the rich. And crashed the economy.
Biden and Hariss managed to recover.
And he’s promised to do it all again but with better coordination, more evil, racist, sexist people and no one to stop him. If you weren’t paying attention to what he was literally screaming at you. Idk what to say
@OnionSoup@pmarin I believe you actually have to fill out a form to stop mail. But obviously if you’re dealing with her estate. You’d have to have it forwarded to you in case someone sent you something important. So. IDK hopefully it stops now that it’s over. If they are still asking… He’s trying to get money to pay off his civil lawsuits.
And mother of God. Stop paying him off for his sexual assaults people. He’s gross.
I’m pretty meh at this point. Fury, the kitty with lung cancer is still here, really no difference in symptoms since he was diagnosed about a year ago and at his last vet appointment in May (when we were told he probably had two months to live).
Jingles, the dog with congestive heart failure just caught this past summer, otoh, well, we took him in last Thursday since he’d been coughing a lot and his CHF is 40% worse. His furosimide (diuretic to keep the fluid draining from his lungs) dosage was doubled and he’s peeing more and the coughing has lessened quite a bit. The vet did advise a cardiologist because there are medications that can help, but the dosage is very specific. Well, that would be around $1K, Jingles is sixteen years old and there’s no guarantee.
I’m in the process of deleting all the data from my Twitter account. I will keep my account open because I want to save my name and not have someone pretending to be me. I have found being able to contact companies I deal with can be more productive when you take your problems public.
Going to get back to making shirts again. That was always fun. The first one on deck is a shirt that says “PETTY BITCH” to wear around the neighborhood.
I’m going to do my very best to avoid politics right now. The outrage, the gloating, the second-guessing…is just exhausting and there’s not a damned thing I can do about it.
@lisaviolet I haven’t left the house yet. I’m still trying to come to terms I guess. Unfortunately it’s extremely hard to avoid politics. Not looking forward to the gloating at all.
Am definitely down for a Petty Bitch shirt
@jennafer74 I’ll share when it’s finished. Need to get some other stuff out of the way first (Covid vax! followup chest x-ray for my husband who had a kidney removed earlier this year).
It turned out okay. My vinyl stash is easily over ten years old and I read it’s only good for two years in storage at the best, so…we’ll see how long it lasts.
Seriously going to start looking at transferring my job to our Calgary office. To hell with my family. If my mom remembered to vote (and I didn’t remind her) I know she voted for him. My sister can deal with her. I’m done.
I am doing great! Independent of the election results, I was doing fine, but now even better. But to be fair, I wouldn’t have lost my mind if Kamala won. It’d just be another day at the office, so I guess the election has nothing to do with it…
I just had a really tough conversation with my 21 yr old son about what happened yesterday. He doesn’t understand how this could happen, why people would vote for him, how his LGBTQ friends will be affected, how his girl friends will be affected, how his parents will be affected and how his Grandparents will be affected. I told him, at this point, we worry about family first, wait and see. Luckily, we live in a Blue state for now. Nothing changes today, but the future is in his generations hands. So, yeah, I made blueberry muffins and decided to stay off of social media for a while.
@catthegreat Given how many LBGTQ+ folks have already been affected by the anti-us legislation at the levels of so many states, having an avowed anti-us President, with the Senate in his pocket, pretty much means that many of our fundamental rights are likely to be stripped away before the end of 2025. We’re probably looking at the end of same-sex marriage, possibly the forced dissolution of all such existing unions, the forced reversion of gender markers even for those who’ve completely transitioned physically, and possibly even a reversion to pre-'60s laws regarding open displays of affection and all forms of what they will now regard as cross-dressing. For a blueprint of their plans, see the Project 2025 document from the American Heritage Institute, a racist religious terror group that has been openly backing Trump, and whose doctrine Trump has promised to implement.
@werehatrack ok none of that is going to happen. I’m not going to break down every point, but it’s not going to happen. Please stop reading false, fear mongering, hyperbolic articles.
@catthegreat Given the challenged state legislative measures that have already been put in place and which have seen no significant reversals by any court action to date, I find absolutely no credibility in any assertion that there will not be more of it coming from the federal level. I listened to what the candidate said in his speeches, and he promised exactly what I was talking about. I don’t think he was being hyperbolic, I think he was preaching to his choir, and I think they are absolutely determined to do exactly what he said. And now that he has the immunity that he sought, he can enforce his will, or perhaps more correctly, the will of the people pulling his strings, with impunity. Absolute impunity. And I do not think that the Supreme Court will act to modify their grant of unwarranted power.
@werehatrack immunity is for all presidents, and has always been. It was merely affirmed. What did he say in his campaign that remotely came close to talking about repealing gay marriage? Why didn’t he do all these things the last time he was in? Because he’s not going to, that’s why.
@catthegreat Wrong. Redefining marriage as being solely and exlusively a union between a man and an unrelated woman is a core component of his avowed policy, and the vastly broadened immunity he will wield will make it easy for him to simply issue edicts setting such policy, and his Supreme Court will decline to hear any challenges to those orders. He’s really got it in for people like me, too, and the entire picture is painted in pretty much detail at https://www.aclu.org/publications/trump-on-lgbtq-rights among other places. Or you could just actually read the Project 2025 document that he has promised to use as his roadmap many times, in multiple addresses and interviews, We’re already seeing the direct effects of the emboldening his election has produced at the state level down here in Texas, where our Driver’s License department chief announced this week that court orders commanding the change of a gender marker will not only be entirely ignored, but the fact of the attempt to secure the change will be reported upstream to be handed over to the Attorney General, an act which can’t possibly be benign in intent. Paxton is explixitly building precisely the kind of list of targets that has been used in “ethnic cleansing” and other hatred-based abrogations of all rights with the obvious goal of quite literally rounding us all up and locking us away to rot with no rights of any kind - if not outright eliminated. And Trump will cheer him on.
@werehatrack I have read project 225 and he has nothing to do with it, also has said he’s not using it. I’ll look at the ACLU doc but I don’t believe anything they put out. Again, he did nothing in his first term , he’ll do nothing in his next. And the sc won’t overturn obergfell, I think you’re worrying about nothing.
@catthegreat If you think that we and you have nothing to fear, you are likely to find that you are tragically wrong. I suspect that you think you’ve got nothing to lose even if we’re right, which makes it far less urgent to be concerned; if we’re even partially right, it’s going to be much too late when you discover otherwise. I, on the other hand, have a great deal to lose, as do many of my friends, some of whom are legal scholars themselves, and we are frankly terrified.
Not good today. Grief is hard, especially when you have an anxiety disorder. I’ll be fine for days and then I’ll wake up crying and crash again. My anxiety’s been so bad, today I felt like I was gonna crawl out of my skin and all I can do is sit on the couch in a ball.
This almost sounds like a “blame the goat” thread.
I’m currently expanding and contracting rapidly with the 40°F weather fluctuations in my area; 60 in the morning, 80 midday, 40 at night. Causing a lot of nausea, headache, nausea, lock-up, nausea, and sinus congestion. And nausea ad nauseum.
I’m not even 100% sure that the account is mandatory.
Yeah, I didn’t know if Walter and Charlie were official or just special circumstance goats. That mediocrebot was a goat once I did not know; that’s baffling.
@Kyeh@pakopako@werehatrack Not the authority here; I just kind of ended up assuming a role of starting a goat nomination thread every month and occasionally updating the calendar, as I’ve been here since before day zero.
The goat has always been a community decision since the first month in which the winner was goated for “I emailed customer service 18 times today because I didn’t know my own address.”
It has only been presumed for no repeat goats, as “to spread the blame around”. This isn’t a rule, though.
Nominating non-mehmbers isn’t exempt, but without someone to tag, it’d be like screaming into an empty void – so it’ll be kind of pointless.
Mediocrebot has been the only goat that was also a “staff member” at the time of goatdom.
Since it’s been the community’s decision, the option for “no goat” is always available too.
@Kyeh@narfcake@pakopako Hmmm. In theory, then, someone could nominate Hastur, or JeffTheB, but perhaps that’s redundant. Besides, one must be careful about potentially summoning things that are difficult to dismiss.
@narfcake@pakopako Walter and Charlie were official, and both more active than several of the human goats we’ve had, including this month’s, apparently.
@Kyeh@narfcake@pakopako I think Charlie gave out a lot of PB treats to consol folks! He took his position very seriously because, with great power comes great responsibility.
Also, it gave him an excuse to steal my phone!
He may have also been the youngest goat, at three?!?!
Yes.
The correct answer is meh
At the moment I’m a pessimistic anxious mess.
I’ll hold out on answering the poll until later in the day…
TERRIFIC!! No more TV ads for something kinda, sorta important that ended yesterday. HALLELUJAH!!
/giphy HALLELUJAH!!
@IndifferentDude So it’s time to dump TV stock?
I think I accidentally shoplifted today. Going back tomorrow. Scanned points card but not credit card.
@Salanth I did that the other day, and it was a bag of rubber bands from homedepo. Ran out of hands, slipped into my hoody and forgot about it
Sometimes when I feel anxious and overwhelmed it makes me feel sleepy and that’s how I feel right now.
Terrible…My cat(Sophie)is 12 years old and just started limping… I’m glad she has had a great life it just makes me sad cause she was my sons cat and he moved out across the country, and she’s all I have.
@ragingredd I’m so sorry! She’s a beautiful cat.
@ragingredd Take her to the vet. She may have hurt herself and you didn’t see it happen.
@Kidsandliz @ragingredd well all of that. Obviously first. I’ve seen some of the cats take a fall from the upstairs so like 14 ft to hard wood. They rotate fast But they aren’t 12. I panic a little and check on them when they calm down and I can find them.
Maybe also talk to your son? If you’re missing him? Like. I answer when my mom calls. I just. Don’t think to call people. It’s not how my brain is wired. most of the time I also don’t have much to say. Cause IDK. It’s not interesting? My limit is about on here.
I’m not a very social person so I don’t always parse things the same as other people.
But there were a lot of things I could have helped with if my mom had told me. IDK. Maybe entirely different with your situation. And even if it was the same maybe it’s not fair.
Maybe it’s just new and he’s focused on it. I still think it’s ok to talk about it.
@Kidsandliz @ragingredd that happened to my cat at about age 10. Brought him to a really nice cats-only vet. They felt around and moved his legs and said he will probably get better, which he did eventually. We never figured out what he did to get “injured,” he was indoor-only.
At that age even though we think cats are indestructible, they are just like us at an older age and can get joint and muscle issues more easily and not bounce back as quickly. Oh, to be a kitten again!
I did set up a low bench next to the bed so he had an easier way to get in and out of bed, but he didn’t always use it.
@ragingredd What happens when you test that leg or paw? Is there any reaction (because it hurts)? Feel the paw pad. Is it warm? That’s a good sign, means it’s still getting blood flow.
Are there any other signs? Discomfort, not eating, anything out of the ordinary?
Twelve is considered old for a cat (yeah, I know, I know…we’ve had cats live into their twenties). But cats do get arthritis. And just like us older folk, sometimes just twisting the wrong way brings on pain.
She’s a very beautiful cat.
@ragingredd
she’s a very beautiful muted calico and looks like she could be my cat’s sister. Please do take her to the vet if you can. If it is arthritis, a heating pad may help if all the other causes are ruled out. Missy loves her heating pad.
@ragingredd my 14 yr. old Calico is experiencing hip pain from arthritis. I got her on Gabapentin and she is doing great; playing like a kitten again. I give her about 30mg nightly in her wet food. It’s a fine powder in a capsule that I break open and sprinkle about 1/3 in her food. The vet prescribed 100mg but she is very sensitive to it and it knocked her out cold. The reduced dose is just right and she’s doing great.
@Kyeh Thank-you.
@Kidsandliz yea Im calling the vet tomorrow.
@lisaviolet I know 12 is old lol I’ve lucked out with Sophie, my first 2 cats got put down before age 3. 1 had cancer in his lymph nodes and the 2nd one had congested heart failure and then kidney failure. 3rd cat was an out side cat and got eaten by an animal, Sophie’s been with me sense the second cat.
But when I check her legs she wines and cries out. But I’m calling the vet tomorrow. I just want her to be comfortable. She might be 12 but she still acts like a kitten. But shes still eating just moving slow and I’ll just pick her up and walk down the stairs for her, I live in NH and in a old house with steep stairs so its the least I can do, she can still walk up them. But hopefully the vet can help. Thank you she is loved!
@ragingredd
We’ve rescued (and kept) over 70 since 1986. We don’t have kids. lol
The reason I asked if her paw was warm is because when a cat throws a blood clot, the leg isn’t getting blood and the paw will be cold.
I’m glad you’re taking her to the vet and hopefully she just pulled a muscle or it’s arthritis.
Locking the doors and not coming out until everything has settled down. And grateful that everything can be delivered.
The combination of what ought to have happened for me today but didn’t (personal issue), and the implications of what did happen (national issues), makes this one of the worst days of my life to date.
@werehatrack technically we don’t know yet. On the political bullshit. But republicans have waged a long hard fight against people. Trying to turn them against their own interest and back to serfs for the rich. At a state level. And medle with election results. Mail in ballots are not fully counted yet. And maybe they got away with it. It was literally in their playbook. To gerrymander and put in corrupt laws and work their way up the chain.
I’m sorry about your situation. Id literally consider leaving the country at this point if I were you. And had the means.
Although. According to Trump and the supreme Court. Biden could just drone strike him.
@unksol @werehatrack Just like the “safe harbor” provided by the democrats to immigrants and the lack of ID requirements for voting have nothing to do with their push…
For context, I live down the street from several of the facilities used to house refugees and unfortunately, these people with genuine and real hardships are being used as political pawns. It’s rather infuriating on many levels.
@werehatrack @zinimusprime you are required to identify yourself to vote. No election has had any percentage of immigrants vote. It’s checked and verified against your registration to vote. It’s a two step process. You can’t just show up and vote.
It’s also a crime that would draw attention to you. And temporary people do not commit crimes for exactly that reason.
@unksol @zinimusprime They don’t commit such pointless crimes which have no benefit to them and carry such a significant risk, in any event. It would be just as foolish to assume that all undocumented aliens have crminal intent as it is to assume that no elected officials do.
@unksol @werehatrack, I just received the go ahead from the president of the company I work for to move abroad and keep my job (I work remote). It’ll probably be 8 or so months as I have just torn out my backyard to begin landscaping the whole thing. The cost and the time to get my house prepared to rent is the delay.
@kittykat9180 @werehatrack well wasn’t saying we should all flee the country. But for some people. It may make a lot of sense. To give up on America. The amount of damage they want to do. May take America off the world stage. Never mind how badly they plan to treat people. And corrupt future elections. This is so depressing.
@kittykat9180 @unksol @werehatrack What future elections? Didn’t the felon say if he was voted in, we’d never have to vote again?
@unksol @werehatrack, I have the means to leave, so I’m going to do it.
@lisaviolet he’s getting pretty old and already showing signs of losing his mind. I’ll be surprised if he makes it 4 years.
The last 3 republicans presidents ended their term in recession. I’ve been debating when I think the next one will start under trump (again). I am thinking it will begin during 2026.
@kittykat9180 I’ve read more than one scenario where Vance pulls out the 25th amendment, trump is dumped and Vance becomes president.
That’s some scary scenario.
@kittykat9180 @lisaviolet Certainly could happen. Younger and more competent and not nearly as entertaining as reality-show-man.
Question is would Elon Musk allow it? Pretty sure he will be running things from behind the scenes the next few years. His cars and rockets work very well though. Definitely the smartest guy in the room. And creepy, but not as creepy as Vance, and that’s saying something!
EDIT a few minutes after I type that, national news says Elon Musk will be instrumental in choosing people for cabinet positions. And so it begins….
@lisaviolet @pmarin, a nation by billionaires for billionaires
@unksol @werehatrack You are largely correct, they’re usually not drawing attention to themselves, but we just had one in our town commit sexual assault and get deported. So the assertion that they do not commit any crimes is false, but let me be clear and say that the majority of them don’t commit crimes.
However, I literally just showed up yesterday and was not required to show ID. You can say whatever you like, I was not required to show proof of identification and I live in a VERY blue state. I had to state my name, but that was it. They just checked my name against a PAPER registry. No verification required. I don’t think they’re sending waves of immigrants to the polls as it would draw lots of attention, but I do think that it is happening on a smaller scale. Is it enough to make a dent, I don’t know, but it would be naïve to assume that voter fraud never happens.
@unksol @werehatrack
I don’t think that all undocumented people have criminal intent at all (I come from a family of immigrants for context). I would say the majority of them don’t, but similar to any cross section of society, some of them do. But to assume that no voter shenanigans are happening is naïve and short-sighted. Some of these swing state results don’t take a lot to sway
I have had an unexpected thing go right. The personal issue that went wrong has been followed by a second development that will reduce the level of distress considerably as long as everything associated with it is handled properly. I have 65 days in which to guide it to an acceptable result, and it may very well take a varying amount of attention to detail on every single one of them to get it to conclude successfully. (In other words, I will be all over a certain office staff like a coat of paint until this has been seen to a successful conclusion.)
@werehatrack @zinimusprime obviously I don’t mean no immigrants commit crimes. But statisticly it’s lower than non immigrants per the FBI/all criminal stats. They have no protections at all if they do.
D) None of the above.
@xobzoo E) 42
I woke up and was able to get vertical. Everything else is gravy.
@chienfou I read gravy as gravity.
@chienfou @Pavlov the gravy was leftover from the turkey forum earlier this week.
@Pavlov @pmarin
/giphy lol
@chienfou @Pavlov @pmarin turkey day is a few weeks out. Just saying. Is your spouse testing on you
I feel like I did eight years ago.
@Pavlov except 8 years older…
@Pavlov
Worse this time.
8 years ago there was room to wonder what he would be.
Now we know he wants to destroy the constitution and he’s up for executing his political enemies.
He’s been quite clear.
And he’s not trying to figure out what he can get away with anymore
So this is much much worse.
Hopeless
I can’t believe Maine voted to keep their stupid flag.
@zachdecker I didn’t know about that issue. Maine is geographically furthest state from me at the moment (excluding Hawaii…)
@zachdecker I can’t believe there was an initiative to spend money on changing it.
@zachdecker @zinimusprime I have to say, the existing flag is one of the least egregious legacy flags I’ve seen.
@werehatrack @zachdecker @zinimusprime
I mean of all the things. But cpgray on YouTube is pretty good and it was a good distraction
/youtube cpgray Maine flag
/youtube cpgray flags
Honestly, I’m able to see the humor in the absurd situation for now. I know bad things are coming, but useless to be too upset about them before they hit…
… also, dual-citizenship (and the ability to pick up a third if I need it) helps at a time like this, I have an out should things get really dangerous for me.
@OnionSoup it’s like reality show Season 2 was renewed!
My only other consolation is that my mother who died this year at age 95 would be happy. I’m still having to deal with her accounts and mail. She was getting 3-5 pieces of postal mail a week from Trump campaign, from RNCC, from Eric Trump, from Lara Trump. For a while I used their postage-paid envelopes to send back the stuff saying Deceased and Please Remove, but nothing could stop the barrage of Trump Mail to her street mailbox.
@pmarin she must have been in a swing state. I don’t think I got a single piece of political propaganda sent to me from either party (Presidential at least, I got state level stuff). I think this is the first time I’ve received zero Presidential junk mail.
@OnionSoup No it was Oregon. But it was all fundraising. Hence the envelopes to send in your checks. Old people like to use checks. Don’t know if she ever sent them any money. But once you got Elon Musk funding you, old people checks don’t matter much anyway.
@OnionSoup @pmarin My BIL (the one who’s still alive even though his body is riddled with cancer) told my husband that he felt really bad that he could no longer afford to send money to the red hat grifters. He even tried to explain it to them and the begging didn’t stop.
@lisaviolet @OnionSoup @pmarin Giving money to a billionaire so he can pay his legal bills seems wrong on every level.
@lisaviolet @OnionSoup @Shoebox23 unclear if Trump really is a “billionaire.” Likely not.
@OnionSoup @pmarin, they will still gladly take checks from old people.
Is it really that bad? REALLY??
@mcemanuel If you’re a member of a target group that the incoming President has promised will receive special attention like having their marriage annulled, or their health care needs outlawed at the Federal level, or their gender change legally nullified, or their right to vote stripped, or any of a myriad of other unconscionable acts, January 21st, 2025 is going to be an incredibly frightening day. And January 22nd through the next inauguration (assuming he allows one, ending that’s another of his promises) even more so. If I could leave, I’d be preparing my exit now, but there is no nation that will have me because of my age.
@mcemanuel @werehatrack well. Or you think the middle class is fine and that that he wont destroy the economy with tariffs, tax us to give to the wealthy, let an insane Kennedy strip all health care protection and an insane billionaire ruin the rest.
All of which he has promised to do.
So everyone bitching about the best economy that he has sworn up an down to destroy like he did the first time around
@mcemanuel @werehatrack and just to be clear. Presidents don’t have much direct impact on the economy. To the extent the government does it takes a bit for policies to take affect.
Trump got credit for all the work that Obama and that Congress/Senate did. As it kicked in
He spent his entire administration trying to undo it. He managed to destroy our preparation right before a pandemic. And tried over and over to repeal Obamacare/the affordable care act. The only reason you can get health insurance now under that is cause they failed. He took your taxes and gave them to the rich. And crashed the economy.
Biden and Hariss managed to recover.
And he’s promised to do it all again but with better coordination, more evil, racist, sexist people and no one to stop him. If you weren’t paying attention to what he was literally screaming at you. Idk what to say
@OnionSoup @pmarin I believe you actually have to fill out a form to stop mail. But obviously if you’re dealing with her estate. You’d have to have it forwarded to you in case someone sent you something important. So. IDK hopefully it stops now that it’s over. If they are still asking… He’s trying to get money to pay off his civil lawsuits.
And mother of God. Stop paying him off for his sexual assaults people. He’s gross.
I mean… much better finally but kind of weird for y’all to be asking about my BMs.
@mikey Well, here’s hoping you’re regular.
@mikey should probably stop eating all of those expired foods sold on sketchy deals websites…
@ddbelyea NOPE. As the Phoenicians used to say: If sketchy deal-a-day food doesn’t double as Imodium A-D, I don’t want to be loose.
I’m pretty meh at this point. Fury, the kitty with lung cancer is still here, really no difference in symptoms since he was diagnosed about a year ago and at his last vet appointment in May (when we were told he probably had two months to live).
Jingles, the dog with congestive heart failure just caught this past summer, otoh, well, we took him in last Thursday since he’d been coughing a lot and his CHF is 40% worse. His furosimide (diuretic to keep the fluid draining from his lungs) dosage was doubled and he’s peeing more and the coughing has lessened quite a bit. The vet did advise a cardiologist because there are medications that can help, but the dosage is very specific. Well, that would be around $1K, Jingles is sixteen years old and there’s no guarantee.
I’m in the process of deleting all the data from my Twitter account. I will keep my account open because I want to save my name and not have someone pretending to be me. I have found being able to contact companies I deal with can be more productive when you take your problems public.
Going to get back to making shirts again. That was always fun. The first one on deck is a shirt that says “PETTY BITCH” to wear around the neighborhood.
I’m going to do my very best to avoid politics right now. The outrage, the gloating, the second-guessing…is just exhausting and there’s not a damned thing I can do about it.
@lisaviolet I haven’t left the house yet. I’m still trying to come to terms I guess. Unfortunately it’s extremely hard to avoid politics. Not looking forward to the gloating at all.
Am definitely down for a Petty Bitch shirt
@jennafer74 I’ll share when it’s finished. Need to get some other stuff out of the way first (Covid vax! followup chest x-ray for my husband who had a kidney removed earlier this year).
@jennafer74
It turned out okay. My vinyl stash is easily over ten years old and I read it’s only good for two years in storage at the best, so…we’ll see how long it lasts.
Weeding wasn’t as easy as I remember it.
@jennafer74 @lisaviolet Oh, I like it!
@jennafer74 @Kyeh Thank you. Hubby: You’re just going to wear that around home, right?
Yeah, it’s my neighborhood shirt!
Seriously going to start looking at transferring my job to our Calgary office. To hell with my family. If my mom remembered to vote (and I didn’t remind her) I know she voted for him. My sister can deal with her. I’m done.
@ironcheftoni, I hope to be in Spain by June.
This catshirt feels appropriate today:
https://shirt.woot.com/offers/ew-humans
@narfcake yep! I cat also would agree
I am doing great! Independent of the election results, I was doing fine, but now even better. But to be fair, I wouldn’t have lost my mind if Kamala won. It’d just be another day at the office, so I guess the election has nothing to do with it…
I just had a really tough conversation with my 21 yr old son about what happened yesterday. He doesn’t understand how this could happen, why people would vote for him, how his LGBTQ friends will be affected, how his girl friends will be affected, how his parents will be affected and how his Grandparents will be affected. I told him, at this point, we worry about family first, wait and see. Luckily, we live in a Blue state for now. Nothing changes today, but the future is in his generations hands. So, yeah, I made blueberry muffins and decided to stay off of social media for a while.
@somf69 his LGBTQ friends and girlfriends will not be affected.
@somf69
@catthegreat Given how many LBGTQ+ folks have already been affected by the anti-us legislation at the levels of so many states, having an avowed anti-us President, with the Senate in his pocket, pretty much means that many of our fundamental rights are likely to be stripped away before the end of 2025. We’re probably looking at the end of same-sex marriage, possibly the forced dissolution of all such existing unions, the forced reversion of gender markers even for those who’ve completely transitioned physically, and possibly even a reversion to pre-'60s laws regarding open displays of affection and all forms of what they will now regard as cross-dressing. For a blueprint of their plans, see the Project 2025 document from the American Heritage Institute, a racist religious terror group that has been openly backing Trump, and whose doctrine Trump has promised to implement.
@werehatrack ok none of that is going to happen. I’m not going to break down every point, but it’s not going to happen. Please stop reading false, fear mongering, hyperbolic articles.
@catthegreat Given the challenged state legislative measures that have already been put in place and which have seen no significant reversals by any court action to date, I find absolutely no credibility in any assertion that there will not be more of it coming from the federal level. I listened to what the candidate said in his speeches, and he promised exactly what I was talking about. I don’t think he was being hyperbolic, I think he was preaching to his choir, and I think they are absolutely determined to do exactly what he said. And now that he has the immunity that he sought, he can enforce his will, or perhaps more correctly, the will of the people pulling his strings, with impunity. Absolute impunity. And I do not think that the Supreme Court will act to modify their grant of unwarranted power.
@werehatrack immunity is for all presidents, and has always been. It was merely affirmed. What did he say in his campaign that remotely came close to talking about repealing gay marriage? Why didn’t he do all these things the last time he was in? Because he’s not going to, that’s why.
@catthegreat Wrong. Redefining marriage as being solely and exlusively a union between a man and an unrelated woman is a core component of his avowed policy, and the vastly broadened immunity he will wield will make it easy for him to simply issue edicts setting such policy, and his Supreme Court will decline to hear any challenges to those orders. He’s really got it in for people like me, too, and the entire picture is painted in pretty much detail at https://www.aclu.org/publications/trump-on-lgbtq-rights among other places. Or you could just actually read the Project 2025 document that he has promised to use as his roadmap many times, in multiple addresses and interviews, We’re already seeing the direct effects of the emboldening his election has produced at the state level down here in Texas, where our Driver’s License department chief announced this week that court orders commanding the change of a gender marker will not only be entirely ignored, but the fact of the attempt to secure the change will be reported upstream to be handed over to the Attorney General, an act which can’t possibly be benign in intent. Paxton is explixitly building precisely the kind of list of targets that has been used in “ethnic cleansing” and other hatred-based abrogations of all rights with the obvious goal of quite literally rounding us all up and locking us away to rot with no rights of any kind - if not outright eliminated. And Trump will cheer him on.
@werehatrack I have read project 225 and he has nothing to do with it, also has said he’s not using it. I’ll look at the ACLU doc but I don’t believe anything they put out. Again, he did nothing in his first term , he’ll do nothing in his next. And the sc won’t overturn obergfell, I think you’re worrying about nothing.
@catthegreat
@catthegreat
@catthegreat If you think that we and you have nothing to fear, you are likely to find that you are tragically wrong. I suspect that you think you’ve got nothing to lose even if we’re right, which makes it far less urgent to be concerned; if we’re even partially right, it’s going to be much too late when you discover otherwise. I, on the other hand, have a great deal to lose, as do many of my friends, some of whom are legal scholars themselves, and we are frankly terrified.
Not good today. Grief is hard, especially when you have an anxiety disorder. I’ll be fine for days and then I’ll wake up crying and crash again. My anxiety’s been so bad, today I felt like I was gonna crawl out of my skin and all I can do is sit on the couch in a ball.
Yeah.
This almost sounds like a “blame the goat” thread.
I’m currently expanding and contracting rapidly with the 40°F weather fluctuations in my area; 60 in the morning, 80 midday, 40 at night. Causing a lot of nausea, headache, nausea, lock-up, nausea, and sinus congestion. And nausea ad nauseum.
@pakopako your word play is fantastic.
@pakopako @zinimusprime reminds me, glad I’m not goat this month!
@pmarin January is going to be another time when it’s going to be safer to be emeritus than eligible.
@werehatrack what is the qualification to be eligible any way?
@pakopako @werehatrack Just having a Meh online account and not having been goated before. Were you here when @Felton10’s parrot @Walterbird or @tinamarie1974’s pup @CharlieDoggo were goats?
Or the awesome @mediocrebot?
KRULL! A SKULL! BRETT HULL! AWESOME!
@Kyeh @pakopako I’m not even 100% sure that the account is mandatory. Perhaps we should nominate @NotAUserHere for goat at some point.
@pakopako @werehatrack It was mandatory for the bird and the pup.
@narfcake is the authority on this, I think.
@Kyeh @narfcake @werehatrack
Yeah, I didn’t know if Walter and Charlie were official or just special circumstance goats. That mediocrebot was a goat once I did not know; that’s baffling.
@Kyeh @pakopako @werehatrack Not the authority here; I just kind of ended up assuming a role of starting a goat nomination thread every month and occasionally updating the calendar, as I’ve been here since before day zero.
@narfcake
That’s internet forums in a nutshell
@Kyeh @narfcake @pakopako Hmmm. In theory, then, someone could nominate Hastur, or JeffTheB, but perhaps that’s redundant. Besides, one must be careful about potentially summoning things that are difficult to dismiss.
@narfcake @pakopako Walter and Charlie were official, and both more active than several of the human goats we’ve had, including this month’s, apparently.
@Kyeh @narfcake @pakopako I think Charlie gave out a lot of PB treats to consol folks! He took his position very seriously because, with great power comes great responsibility.
Also, it gave him an excuse to steal my phone!
He may have also been the youngest goat, at three?!?!
Since several have posted their desire to do so, I offer to you now this …
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Washington Post offers advice on ‘what it takes to immigrate’ outside the US after Trump’s victory
https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2024/11/11/countries-americans-move-to/