Goat Tool Day 21
13A few months ago I bought a Milwaukee power ratchet. This thing is great!
Years ago I had a Skil power ratchet, and it was pretty weak. It could run bolts down, but there was no way it could ever break anything free. It had internal NiCad batteries, which took a long time to charge. It was helpful, but underwhelming.
The Milwaukee is an entirely different beast, bragging Li-Ion battery packs (the M12 Fuel batteries), brushless motor, variable speed, and a 55ft-lbs max torque rating. I’ve got the 3/8" drive, but they also make 1/4" and 1/2" drive models. There’s a battery gauge on the handle, as well as a lockout switch. There’s a LED work light too. Reversing is handled on the head, like a normal ratchet. I got mine for around $200, list is $250 for the kit (tool, 1 battery, & charger).
This is the second generation tool from Milwaukee. The earlier one has a lower torque rating, a brush motor, and slightly different design. This photo shows the three drive sizes of the new model, and the old style on the left.
The new design looks a lot stronger to me. If you want the new one make sure you look for the “M12 Fuel” ratchet, with Fuel being the key word. The old one is also called the “M12 Ratchet”, but no “Fuel”. Are they being deliberately confusing?
The M12 Fuel has no problem all breaking loose smaller bolts. It’s not as strong as an impact gun, but it will get into places they can’t.
Of course there’s competition. The Snap-On has more power and is more expensive. $400
The AC Delco is comparable in specs, and less money, but a bulker tool. $150
Ingersol Rand makes a powerful tool, but it’s huge. $150
And of course Harbor Freight has one as well. It’s cheap ($130), and it’s cheap.
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And of course the granddaddy to all of these is the air ratchet.
But you’ve got to have a compressor, and you’re tied to the air hose. I seen some mechanics say they prefer the battery powered tools since they don’t have to deal with the hose.
@blaineg
I used one of those today! Not because it was necessary, but just because I could (and because it doesn’t get used very often).
My favorite tool is also made by Milwaukee, but not quite as sophisticated, and there’s a story behind how it became part of my tool collection:
Many years ago, a friend gave me a cheap stubby screwdriver with multiple bits as a Christmas gift (he always gives el-cheapo gifts, but they’re usually useful and thoughtful).
It didn’t come in handy all that frequently, but when it did, it was invaluable - there was no other tool that would work - a short, stubby screwdriver is a must for tight spaces.
Anyway, after having it save me several times over a few years, I found myself in a situation that required my handy stubby screwdriver. Unfortunately, after searching everywhere, it was nowhere to be found.
I don’t remember the task, but whatever it was couldn’t be done w/out a stubby screwdriver.
So, I hopped in my car and drove out to Home Depot which, for better or worse, is only a few miles from me.
After searching the shelves exhaustively and then asking a HD employee and following him around as he did exactly what I had just done (thanks for the help!), it was determined that they only had one stubby screwdriver in stock - it was a Milwaukee 8-in-1 Compact Ratchet Multi-Bit Driver, and it was somewhere between $15 - $17 iirc.
I was pissed, because I absolutely needed a stubby screwdriver right away, and the one that had always served me just fine couldn’t have cost more than $4.99.
After sufficiently cursing my circumstance and my victimhood of it, I gritted my teeth and paid the exorbitant sum for the stupid little stubby driver.
Well, despite still believing it was a bit overpriced, it quickly became my most favorite and most handy tool.
The ratchet is solid and durable, unlike the one other ratchet screwdriver I’ve had (another cheap gift from the same guy - regular sized driver w/ tons of bits, including sockets, but the ratchet wore out and failed pretty quickly), the ring to reverse the ratchet is smartly placed right at your fingertips, and the 8 bits included are sufficient for most jobs (I still have the myriad other bits that came with the other ratchet-driver, they fit this one, and I bring them along if I think I’ll need them).
Most importantly, it is comfortable in the palm and, whereas the previous, non-ratchet, cheap stubby would cause my hand to cramp up, the addition of the ratchet makes it so much easier to use. I often use it even when not working in a confined space, because it’s just so much nicer to use than a standard screwdriver.
Anyway, that’s my long, cool story, bro, and I’m sticking to it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Let’s see if this works:
/image milwaukee 8-in-1 Compact Ratchet Multi-Bit Driver
edit: Yay, it worked!
Also, I forgot to mention that a couple of years after buying this one, I did stumble across the old, cheap stubby (of course) - it now lives in my car, where it has yet to be necessary.
@DennisG2014 Ooh! Nice!
In the past I never cared for multibit screwdrivers as much as regular ones, because there always seems to be some compromise. That said, there is something nice about only having one tool with all its bits self contained. I accidentally came across a winner that changed my mind in the Rolgear 15 in 1. It has a ratchetless mechanism that is silky smooth and long double ended bits that are both physically and magnetically held in the handle. It is very well made. The long bits help where some short-bitted drivers can’t get their clunky collars into spaces to reach the screws.
It’s pricy ($25) and I only know about it because happened upon mine at a very significant discount. But if I broke or lost it I would probably order another one, I like it a lot.
I do wish that there was a stubby Rolgear, because you’re right, there are some times when only a stubby screwdriver will work.
@djslack The other must-have, aside from a stubby screwdriver, is an extended bit - I mostly use mine for my power drill/driver but sometimes throw it on the stubby (twss).
Wonder if this would have helped last week when I did my brakes. The caliper bolt was almost impossible to loosen. Took some carefully placed swings of a hammer on my wrench to finally break it free. Of course it was on the driver’s side where I had to awkwardly swing upward to turn it the right direction.
@cinoclav Sometimes torque is enough, but sometimes when a fastener is good and stuck you need the force of an impact to break it free. I have a little Craftsman cordless right angle impact for this. It’s in the middle ground between these ratchets and a traditional impact wrench, both in size and in power, but it’s pretty good at getting into tightish spots that a full size impact wouldn’t reach.
/image Craftsman right angle impact driver
@cinoclav @djslack If it took hammering, the ratchet wouldn’t do you any good. As djslack said, you need an impact tool.
This is the one I’ve got, it was part of a multi-tool set I got from Woot a few years ago.
But I’ve got my eye on this one, I really like the stubby design.
@cinoclav And if you need impact, and you’re completely broke, you can get one of these for $10 or so.
Each hammer blow creates a sharp rotation impact. I got mine at a motorcycle shop many years ago.
@djslack Yeah, I have a cordless impact driver but I knew it would’ve been too tight a fit to start messing with it. I may have to consider a right angle version in the future. It would be so much easier if they could design the calipers to have the bolts in the front. Or if someone would just install a lift in my garage for me…
@cinoclav @djslack Yea, I’m still waiting for a lift. And a garage.
Another fun trick to get into places that are tough to work is to get an L-shaped Allen wrench that is the same size as your hex-head driver and use a stubby coupler.
It doesn’t ratchet, but it gives you a lever to apply torque. Apply cheater bars at your own peril.
Hold my beer.
I once split the head of a 1/2" Craftsman ratchet (before they became ) trying to bust a wheel nut and using a 4-foot cheater bar and jumping on it with 150 lbs of pure idiocy. The resulting 7,200 ft-lbs of torque was apparently just a wee bit more than she could take, Captain.
I walked into a Sears and they replaced it for free, no hassle. Almost thought I was in a Costco for a minute.
And unlike JASCO, some companies honor their warranties. The Sears guys put it up on display just so people would ask “WTF happened to this thing? Holy !” Shame the Craftsman name is just a label they slap on stuff these days. Although I hear their good stuff is under a “Professional” grade now. That might not even be around any more too.
@mike808 There was a post on Garage Journal or ToolGuyD that the current Craftsman brand and Lowes will honor the warranty on existing Craftsman tools.
@mike808
Stanley Black & Decker sues Sears over Craftsman brand, citing social media posts
https://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-md-sears-craftsman-lawsuit-20190307-story.html
@eonfifty Smh. Hey, let’s try to save Sears and then fuck it all up by screwing over Stanley! What the hell were they thinking?!
@cinoclav
Not only that, but they also fired Mike Myers’ brother
https://www.thestar.com/business/2017/07/12/laid-off-sears-canada-workers-include-mike-myers-brother-who-starred-in-ad.html
@cinoclav @eonfifty Stanley didn’t buy thr “pro” line of “Craftsman” tools. If anything, and for all we know, Stanley could be disparaging and infringing upon the retained Sears higher quality tool line that Stanley balked at paying for and trying to muscle their way into an exclusive use of the trademark for all quality of tools, not just consumer grade. i.e. that Stanley doesn’t have to have a lifetime, no exclusions warranty like the Sears-retained pro line – and doesn’t have to pay the costs that go with that higher warranty. Lowe’s is in it to keep Stanley exclusive to Lowe’s and not jump to HD or maybe Stanley makes Lowes Kobalt brand tools.
Not all is as it seems among the vultures picking over a carcass.
I’ve got a wrist-powered version.
Yeah, it’s gimmicky. But it’s actually come in handy more than once just for quickly spinning a bolt/nut down when you have very little room or where you have very little arc.
@walarney Where did you get that? So many times that would have been handy!
@nasman6 Search for “sidewinder” ratchet. They’re about $50 on Amazon, but I’m sure whoever gave it to me 20+ years ago didn’t pay that much. Mixed reviews, there, by the way – which is probably fair. I probably wouldn’t buy one, but since I already have it…
I have a collection of Milwaukee M12 cordless tools. In addition to the 3/8 ratchet mentioned, I also have a 3/8 drill, impact driver, Hackzall, rotary tool (like a Dremel), laser level and a 3/8 impact wrench. It’s convenient that they all share the same battery packs and chargers. I’m pretty happy about the performance of all of them, except I don’t think the 3/8 impact wrench really produces the advertised 100 ft/lbs of torque. It won’t break loose (clean) lug nuts that are torqued to 76 ft/lbs. I use the drill and impact driver the most (by far) and they’ve never let me down.