@narfcake
@cranky1950

“Full on insanity with extreme predjudice” is always an option.

@f00l Let’s see what /giphy thinks!
/giphy full on insanity with extreme prejudice

@narfcake
/giphy reroll

@sammydog01
/giphy reroll mother fucker

@f00l Thanks for sharing Stones clip! THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME! Mick is soooo entertaining and John’s cameo at the end…priceless!

@mega1

The 60’s had their moments.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_Rock_and_Roll_Circus

Here is a YouTube playlist.

Not sure if it’s the whole concert, which I’ve never seen.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL76puSTo89xCuMbtv4HVkL7sdOC0IQcLq

The concert from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Stones-Rock-Roll-Circus/dp/B00H8A5RBW/ref=sr_1_28?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1496449852&sr=1-28&keywords=Rolling+Stones

The famous French New-Wave director, Jean-Luc Godard (known for Alphaville, Contempt, and Breathless among many many other films) collaborated with the Stones on a film about the making of the song (and named after the song also): Sympathy For The Devil.

Interesting film if I recall, can be viewed here:

It’s about an hour and a half. If I recall, there are glimpses of a few of the London “rock and and roll royalty” of that time in Godard’s film.

(I think) here is the film trailer:

https://www.amazon.com/Sympathy-Devil-Not-Specified/dp/B01N7G68XO/ref=sr_1_11?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1496449747&sr=1-11&keywords=Rolling+Stones

https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Stones-Sympathy-Devil/dp/B00H8A550A/ref=sr_1_31?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1496449852&sr=1-31&keywords=Rolling+Stones

For other takes on the era:

A few months after Rock and Roll Circus, the rock festival film Gimme Shelter, which chronicled the music festival and the tragedy was shot and released by the Stones and the Mayles Brothers:

Here is a trailer

The Criterion Collection version is in YouTube:

About an hour and a half

https://www.amazon.com/Gimme-Shelter-Rolling-Stones/dp/B00E5WXSDA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496450287&sr=8-1&keywords=gimme+shelter

The raunchy NSFW Stones behind the scenes and backstage 1972 tour film by Robert Frank:

Cocksucker Blues (sorry about the NSFW film name and title song name, in case some of you are at work or you’d like ather not encounter language age quite that raw.)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocksucker_Blues

It’s about an hour and a half in total.

I think a full copy can be had on the internet somewhere or other, but here is about an hour of it, in two parts, assuming these vids are what they purport to be:

The film was never formally released, due to legal disputes between the Stones and director Frank. For years, it could only be shown 4x a years at museums and universities. I saw it at the Whitney Museum in NYC.

https://www.amazon.com/Rolling-Stones-Blues-All-Region/dp/B0019Q6RLU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496450363&sr=8-1&keywords=Cocksucker+blues
(Not in stock)

Since Robert Frank’s film was in the courts and the Stones wanted to prevent its release, the band instead released this standard live concert film from the 1972 tour:

Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rolling Stones
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladies_and_Gentlemen:_The_Rolling_Stones

https://www.amazon.com/Ladies-Gentlemen-Rolling-Stones/dp/B0047P3KZ6/ref=sr_1_23?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1496449852&sr=1-23&keywords=Rolling+Stones

The Stones have been pretty innovative with film.

In addition to Godard, Frank, the Maysles Brothers films, they have released an IMAX concert film, did early live streaming across in Internet during the Voodoo Lounge Tour of 1994-1995, and have worked with directors Martin Scorsese and others.

IMAX
Stones at the Max
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stones_at_the_Max

Scorsese
Shine A Light
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_a_Light_(film)
https://www.amazon.com/Shine-Light-Rolling-Stones/dp/B00GK91MUC/ref=sr_1_1?s=instant-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1496449747&sr=1-1&keywords=Rolling+Stones

If you can find the concert film (not a talking head film of the same name) take a look at the “Midnight Rambler” live performance from 1969, included in the film Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out

It was filmed either at Madison Square Garden in NYC.

@f00l

My spelling. Sigh.

MAYSLES Brothers

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_and_David_Maysles

Sorry, guys. I owe you better than that.

@OldCatLady

He’s in Georgia, isn’t he? Now, Georgia is a fine and beautiful place, but there outta be plenty of weird nearby, lying in wait for him.

@f00l
/giphy kudzu

@sammydog01
Sometimes I wonder if kudzu will survive be the apocalypse. You think?

@f00l If it doesn’t get eaten by the roaches.

@sammydog01

The roaches might have more to fear from the kudzu than the kudzu might have from the roaches.

It doesn’t take much to imagine kudzu developing something along the lines of some Venus flytrap action.

@f00l hot dang I’m good, just to piss you off. 18 and halfem wouldda had their emergency flashers on.

@cranky1950

/giphy mothra loves you

@f00l being goat is not quite so bad afterall

@cranky1950
/8ball Is being goat is not quite so bad afterall?
Outlook good
/8ball Is being goat is not quite so good afterall?
It is decidedly so

@narfcake
@cranky1950
/8ball Is being the Goat not so bad Adderall?
It is decidedly so

/8ball Is being the Goat not so good Adderall?
It is decidedly so

@f00l
/giphy goat Adderall

@mikibell I don’t like either option. Is there a third choice?

@OldCatLady not breathing on this earth??
(bubble existence??)

@mikibell honestly if you haven’t quit aspartame now.

@cranky1950

@lavikinga was talking about this.

I am guilty guilty guilty and haven’t cut them out completely yet, but I suspect that artificial sweeteners (excepting stevia) are not wonderful.

@mikibell

So sorry! This sucks.

@mikibell Hang in there.

@f00l no except
artificial sweeteners have a higher glycemic index than sugar

@Cerridwyn I’m pretty sure that’s not true.

@sammydog01 it’s an odd thing. and is not true for everyone. there was a research study done that compared it, not in a lab, but in living people, and the results were totally unexpected. but in a significant number of the participants, blood sugar rose using artificial sweetener.

It was concluded to be related to how those substances react to the mirco-biom of the intestinal tract and when they took one of the persons who had this reaction and looked at intestinal flora they found that consuming the artificial sweetener totally disrupted and changed it. it returned to normal when he went back to using natural sugar.

it was a small study and none of the subjects were diabetic. it mostly shows that nothing is black and white and how one person responds to a natural or artificial substance that is consumed can be totally different than another.

As a nation and a culture we tend to say when is true for Tom is true for Dick and Harry and none of this can be more wrong.

@Cerridwyn
Let me make sure I understand.

For some persons, blood glucose or glycemic response peaks higher after artificial sweetener consumption than after actual glucose/sucrose consumption?

And this is related to big disturbances in gut flora?

Oh wow I gotta get serious about getting rid of this.

/giphy woe is me

@cranky1950 no fake sweeteners in my life…good ole sugar only! But thank you for the input! (Dr wants me to cut that out too!!)

@LaVikinga @f001 it’s just part of this lemon immune system I have…not returns allowed sadly!!

@f00l
/giphy yep

@Cerridwyn
This stuff was all discussed here in this thread.
https://meh.com/forum/topics/meh-healthy-fitness-challenge

Here is the exact starting post where; some paleo and keto discussion, followed up by probs with artificial sweeteners.

https://meh.com/forum/topics/meh-healthy-fitness-challenge#592c7ad384ca4105309153b0

If you are interested, would be interested in your perspective.

@f00l In my experience drinking a lot of Aspartame makes the immune system function weird. Like I was drinking 5 cans of diet caffeine free coke a night (the water in miami lakes smelled and looked like clorox, coke was .35 a can, Dansai was a buck) when it first came out and developed alopecia. You also notice the uptick in lupus and rheumatoid about the time that stuff came out, where as diabetics had been using saccharine for 70 yrs with few problems.

@Cerridwyn Do you have a reference for that? I couldn’t find it.

@sammydog01 No just personal experience

@cranky1950 we have an odd allergy to saccharine in our family… so I have avoided all of the others, since I really don’t understand why we are allergic … we already had lupus and rheumatoid in our family. out of my mother’s 5 sisters, I don’t think there is one without an autoimmune disease… and mom has RA. sigh… can’t I just be normal on one topic?

@sammydog01
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweeteners-may-change-our-gut-bacteria-in-dangerous-ways/

or

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/41033/title/Sugar-Substitutes--Gut-Bacteria--and-Glucose-Intolerance/

@cranky1950

I have been drinking that stuff since forever.

@f00l I’m going to toss a bag of aspartame in the trash right now.
Donald Rumsfeld and the Strange History of Aspartame

@OldCatLady Don’t believe everything you believe on the internet. Look what the sugar lobby did to high fructose corn syrup.

@cranky1950 Is there a legit study on aspartame linked to rheumatoid arth.?

@ruouttaurmind try offering more than minimum wage

@cranky1950

try offering more than minimum wage

Ruouttaurmind???!!!

@cranky1950:
You’re getting the hang of being CrankyGoat, I see.

/giphy see

@cranky1950, I actually offer pretty fair wages, commensurate with the position. Plus flexible schedule, and a pleasant office environment. Potential applicants get turned off by distance, neglecting to consider swiftness and ease of commute. All the rush hour traffic is headed the opposite direction. Into the city in the mornings and out of the city in the afternoons. I’ve had job offers declined on the basis “it’s too far” in favor of jobs that are closer to them, but take twice as long to drive with all the other sheeple.

@ruouttaurmind

Next time, point this out loudly and often. Put this info in the job listing.

I would rather commute to your kinda place, meself.

@ruouttaurmind Have you tried using a multi-site tool for posting jobs? I always hear Zip Recruiter being advertised, and that it lets you post to lots of sites at once.
Otherwise, you could try using Indeed (or if you’re looking for developers, possibly Stack Exchange).

@ruouttaurmind could you work with telecommuters? Some of your previous questions about technology seem like you might be getting ready for something like that.

@ruouttaurmind why are you not in the northeast? I could use a new job!

@ruouttaurmind what kinds jobs are you trying to fill? If appropriate list the jobs with local college placement offices.

@dashcloud I get junk mail offers from Zip Recruiter ever other day. It’s not inexpensive. But then ineffectual $500 listings on Monster or Career Builder adds up pretty swiftly. Even LinkedIn isn’t cheap.

I’ve been reconsidering Zip, or possibly even a headhunter agent. I am not familiar with Indeed, and will check into this option.

@djslack It’s because of the telecommuters I need fill seats in the office. Some tasks must be accomplished onsite, and I’ve reached the threshold of redistribution of responsibility. We’re not quite up to the challenges of a virtual office for now.

@Kidsandliz I’ve actually had some success in the past filling billets with college students and recent grads. Some positions are suitable for part-time (paid) interns, and my ability to offer flexibility in schedule is ideal for students. But I advert the jobs as full or part time because the cream of the crop are usually full-timers.

TBH, I’d rather have 2 or 3 part time students than a single full-timer. All eggs in a single basket and all that. If a full-timer is sick, vacay, or leaves the company it’s more difficult to continue functional operations. If one of the 2 or 3 part-timers leaves, we still have the ability to pivot and carry on easily enough.

I’ve also had some limited success with the local high school. Filing, answering phones, data entry, monitoring social media… all the busywork nobody else loves, but ideal for collegebound honors students looking to pad their school applications. Plus, HS kids work for free! Unfortunately the remote location of my office limits the crop to one smallish high school and a private prep school.

@mikibell

why are you not in the northeast? I could use a new job!

Because I hate the cold?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I occasionally complain about 110* temperatures, but when I think about the couple times I’ve been to Burlington in January… I’m thankful I live in the desert!

If what you want is basic Office and computer work, do you require special, somewhat rare, skills?

If not, I might, in your shoes, try to hire very locally, nearby residents. There ought to be a reasonable number around who might be interested in part time work or a straight office job.

City residents might not want to commute away from the city center and away from the center of the action, where their ambitions may lie.

For basic office work, there ought to be reasonably qualified people in rural and semi-rural areas, close at hand. If I would think.

If all you need is MS office skills, you might be able to hire someone reliable nearby who has taken a course or two.

Can I ask what metroplex and what industry?

@f00l The locale is Phoenix, the industry is publishing (print and digital media).

The positions I need to fill range from semi-skilled to professional. I need sales, graphics/web and a proofreader/editor/production person.

I can train suitable people for inside sales, but I really need a seasoned salt who can fetch up some whales. The regional and national accounts that require skill and contacts to reel in. My current sales mangler is… mmm, let’s say “challenged by years” and long ago lost the energy and motivation for hard work.

The area where my office is located is a somewhat affluent resort/retirement community. Of course this demographic doesn’t present a great number of employment candidates. So I draw most of my employees from the suburban areas closer to the city.

It’s a 25ish mile drive into the city, but since commuter traffic is heading opposite direction, it’s an easy 30 minute drive. People who live in the 'burbs and drive 10 to 15 miles into the primary employment centers typically commute 45 minutes or more. They tend to be turned off by the 25 mile distance to my office, without considering the shorter commute times.

Once joining us, employees tend to stay. They “get it”. Beautiful setting, slower, quieter environment, pleasant people. Most of my staff has been there over 10 years.

@ruouttaurmind Ooh, semi-skilled. That’s me! Too bad I don’t live in Phoenix.

@ruouttaurmind

Q, out of curiosity:

When you located there, was it semi-affluent, or did that grow up around you? I have an image of what I might call an “affluent exurban area”.

There are a few around here. Many standard upper middle class or similar. Some beyond that, having acreage residences with panic rooms and package-wrapping rooms and the like.

I supppse your likely targeted employees don’t live nearby?

@f00l

I supppse your likely targeted employees don’t live nearby?

Property values nearby are very, very high. The average home in the immediate area is, as you describe, large, with acreage and luxury amenities. People living in the immediate area are either retired, or are not interested in the wages I can offer. Although I offer fair pay commensurate with the job, working people living nearby are typically beyond the level of jobs I’m offering.

The area has been affluent for decades, but in the real estate boon of the mid-2000’s the number of very expensive homes increased dramatically. Property values exploded and pushed out the working middle class. Before then a 2 or 3 acre plot could be had for $30k/acre. Now prices are north of quarter mil an acre for undeveloped land. Put a 4000 sqft house on a 2 acre plot and it’s fetching a few mil. Before the real estate crash in '08 it was common to see 5 and 6 mil homes being sold regularly.

@PlacidPenguin

/giphy pity

@PlacidPenguin You didn’t have to stare at it, you could’ve glanced at it occasionally while yelling at the TV.

@cranky1950

TV was off from Tuesday evening until Thursday evening.

@PlacidPenguin
Literalist.

@PlacidPenguin Hey anything I can do y’no.

@Kidsandliz
you rang?

@f00l is sorry that
you got bitten and your hand
is badly swollen.

Professorships for
Adjuncts suck. Abuse! Meds cost
way too much. Not fair.

@Kidsandliz
Dumb question

You live in a state that did not do medicaid expansion. Do you have to be resident in that state to keep the job?

Could you move to a medicaid expansion state with relatively low COL and still keep your horrible adjunct job?

If you were paying, say, $70 for health insurance, instead of 10-20 times that, you then could afford housing in some state with reasonable housing costs. And have insurance.

If the state you moved to was not horribly far away, or there was some sort of cheap airfare, if might be possible for you to visit campus every so often.

Would that be possible?

@Kidsandliz HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, feel better now?

@cranky1950

Nope. Don’t think so.

@PlacidPenguin
You know that you can block foreign bids, don’t you?

@f00l

The strange thing is, I already have foreign bids blocked.

Just looked at it, this blocking only blocks those who have a foreign shipping address.

I suppose it’s possible that they have shipping addresses in the US…

@f00l

A guy from Florida ended up winning.

(And yes, I’m holding back from making jokes.)

@Kawa oh no…

@Kawa That really sucks! Hoping for a speedy move to a new job for you.

@Kawa
Oh that’s awful.

What are your prospects? Are there decent opportunities around?

Was your old company in a state where you could see layoffs coming?

I hope they offered you a decent payoff package. If they didn’t, try to negotiate one if you can. Sometime people are so bummed out that it’s hard to get oneself to do this.

Please rely on your friends and family (esp local ones) to be super supportive and help you keep your mood from falling too much, and help you with brainstorming and contacts and reaching mg out to possibilities.

Apart from getting opportunities, this can make a huge emotional diff to you. At times like this, being isolated is not so great.

@Kawa No really the bosses 16 y/o nephew was clearly more qualified than you. Good luck hope you have a very short job search.

@Kawa Sorry to hear that. That sucks. Hope you live in a state that pays decent unemployment compensation (it varies by state).

@f00l I’ve got one solid opportunity at a competitor, and I’m sure I can figure out a way for my skills to translate. A few months ago an email was sent out warning that restructuring was coming, so I had at least some idea. I’m certainly very blessed/privileged to have a great support network.

@cranky1950 They actually eliminated the position, along with 475 others throughout NYC.

@Kidsandliz I’m on payroll for two more weeks, so health insurance for three. I’ll also get a lump sum for my paid leave, which will be a pretty significant chunk of change. I haven’t researched unemployment compensation just yet, but given the blue bubble I’m in, it shouldn’t be too terrible.

To all of you, thanks for your well wishes.

@Kawa
Unemployment compensation - sign up the day after your last day. You have a 1 week waiting period.

Health insurance - tell them you want to pay for COBRA - that continues your health insurance for 18 months. You pay your portion, employer portion, plus 10%. If that is too expensive check the ACA stuff. They go by your annual income for rates so it is going to be higher than if your annual income is what it will be when your paycheck ends - their may be exceptions (for example being laid off so you might want to read about it/ask). You may or may not be able to get medicaid if your state expanded it and your unemployment compensation is low enough. Take a good look at those options as generally there are far fewer providers that accept ACA and medicaid. If you can afford it COBRA would likely be a better, more comprehensive option.

Food stamps - If you have less than $2000 in anything except retirement accounts (eg bank, stocks, etc.) and your income is at or below the poverty line you get this. The most one person gets is $194/mo. You don’t pay tax on food (but do pay tax on coupons - go figure) which may or may not matter if your state charges tax on food (mine does).

Student loans - if you have them and paying them is going to break the bank and you are not on one of the income dependent plans you can defer them for 3 years being unemployed. Subsidized loans have the interest paid by the government, unsubsidized ones do not so you either pay the interest or it is capitalized.

Good luck with all of this.

@f00l Sheesh you and the other 2 stand over a cauldron brewing these things and you blame me?

@cranky1950

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg and howlet’s wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon’s blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.

I’m just an apprentice. But I’m trying to master evil potions as fast as I can

/giphy snape

@f00l

@f00l

Why did you change the gif?

@PlacidPenguin Who doesn’t change the gifs (or 8ball) on a regular basis?

@narfcake

Want a partial list?

@PlacidPenguin I expected a “define regular” response instead.

@narfcake

Bit distracted to give an “expected” response.
(Trying to find someone headed to either A-Kon in Ft Worth next week, or Denver Comic Con the end of the month/beginning of July.)

@PlacidPenguin

That gif focused on pee insults, not on potion masters. And Snape snarling “Obviously” does not suck, as gifs go.

I did like that one, tho. Perhaps I should have stuck with it for the absurdity.

The Gif Not Chosen

*Two gifs diverged in choice: “Which would?”,
And wishing that I might post them both,
Yet be a chooser, long I stood,
And gazed at the one as long as I could,
'Till it vanished in internet undergrowth.

Then chose the other, just as fair,
And having perhaps a better claim;
For it was clever, and wanted wear;
Tho, as for that, the observed wit there
Was in each really about the same.

Well, both gifs that moment before me lay,
In image search that I rarely backtrack.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet, knowing how gifs recede away,
I doubted I should ever come back.

I might be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere, minutes and minutes hence;
Two gifs, they bade me choose, and I:
I chose the second that came by;
And has that made all the difference?

(I might have stolen some of that.)

@narfcake

Well the good news is, I can’t find anybody in the Fort Worth area willing to put their sanity on the line just to get an autograph for me from one of the minds behind a webcomic which I really like.

And it’s not like I wanna start reminding people that they owe me favors… (I’ve been sitting on certain favors for years, some close to a decade. This would just seem like a waste.)

@PlacidPenguin Covfefe?

@PlacidPenguin Good a reason as any. I applaude you level headed approach to this situation.

@PlacidPenguin I would’ve gotten away with it too.

@DrunkCat if it wasn’t for you meddling kids.

@mikibell

I’m starting to think that @DrunkCat is connected to the most beloved character of the Scooby Doo franchise.
(@LaVikinga, @thismyusername, @conandlibrarian and @RiotDemon might try to deny part of that though.)

@PlacidPenguin

@mikibell

You know who I’m referring to?

@PlacidPenguin Damn kids.

@DrunkCat

Wrong answer.

He who shall remain nameless so as to not arouse jealousy.

@PlacidPenguin
/image gif eyes like daggers

@RiotDemon

@f00l

I may want certain info from that atlas. (I might message you on Woot.)

@f00l Dropping the whole world on your toe is probably not the smartest thing you’ve done, but you seem to have come through the experience like a trooper.

@cranky1950 @f00l

@PlacidPenguin

Yeah tha’s me. Minus the swearwords and hopping around in one foot for a bit.

@cranky1950 @f00l

Dropping the whole world on your toe is probably not the smartest thing you’ve done<

But then again probably better on your toe than on your head…

@PlacidPenguin

If you want one;

https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?ac=sl&st=sl&ref=bf_s2_a1_t1_1&qi=CAiQxXSB3MZTthDDbHKWcIveVyQ_1496551772_1:1:1&bq=author%3Djohn%20bartholomew%20and%20son%26title%3Dthe%20times%27%20atlas%20of%20the%20world

If I were buying, would prob want one that’s not an ex-library copy, and has a dust jacket, and is in at least “Good” condition.

This particular one has that gorgeous photo of Everest colored red on the cover.

You can also find them on Ebay, but if they don’t show a photo of the book with the dust jacket, it’s hard to tell if it’s the right book.

The Times has now published I think 14(?) Editions of the Comprehensive World Atlas (this one, but the title can vary slightly), along with an Explorer’s Atlases, Historical Atlases, Mini and Concise Atlases, Ancient History Atlases, etc. So finding what you are looking for on Ebay can be a PITA.

That search applied es to the 1977 edition. The latest was published in 2014 and is gorgeous but Is Not Inexpensive.

@f00l

I just want a few pictures from it.

---

Still trying to motivate myself to look for a certain dictionary.

Although the info I want from this dictionary is easily available online.

@f00l

No more eBay shopping on my part until I replenish the fund I have for stuff I don’t need.

@PlacidPenguin

Which pix?

The thing is, even tho the book is large, the plates are quite detailed with v small text. They didn’t go for great tonal contrast.

Making stuff out on the plates can require some concentration.

I’m perfectly willing to try pix. But they may come out badly.

@cranky1950 now i have the song "you got the whole world in your hands thewhole world in your hands " stuck in my head. I blame you

@f00l

The 2014 Edition can be searched for here:

https://www.bookfinder.com/search/?st=sr&ac=qr&mode=advanced&author=&title=Times+comprehensive+atlas+of+the+world&isbn=&lang=en&new=1&used=1&destination=us&currency=USD&binding=*&keywords=&min_year=2014&max_year=2014&minprice=&maxprice=

I’m not seeing anyone selling for less than Amazon does tho. I didn’t see any used ones for under $100.

I suppose more people than @OldCatLady and I covet great atlases.

@CaptAmehrican

Always glad to help.

Can we redo the lyrics to
"You dropped the whole world on your toe"?

@CaptAmehrican

Just watch/listen to any song from this thread about 2 dozen times.

@Kidsandliz

But then again probably better on your toe than on your head…

If I had dropped it on my head, it would have hurt a lot less, and no chance of damage there either.

@narfcake

Not sure why you starred my comment. You’re not supposed to know the contents of that thread. (Although you’ve made posts there anyways…)

@CaptAmehrican

@PlacidPenguin Must. Pad. Altruism. Score.

(I suppose I could post less and get the same results … but you know and I know the answer to that! And can I haz catshirt?)

@snapster

No catshirts for @narfcake.

@PlacidPenguin
Blame @cranky1950 @snapster.

@narfcake

Or you could (and should) blame the shirtgoat.

@PlacidPenguin But where’s the fun in that?!?
/giphy cat shirt goat

@narfcake

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@PlacidPenguin

Re @narfcake and no more catshirts:

I don’t think the thrift palaces of SoCal are on your side in this dispute.

/giphy cat defiant

@cranky1950

Not only did that Atlas try to cripple me, it imprisoned me for more than 10 hours of lost time. So far.

I struggled mightily, but could not escape.

Fie! Blame!

@f00l

@f00l It’s a time machine. Open it and you’re transported back to 1977. I’ve started checking for any of its siblings in thrift stores.

@OldCatLady

I found it from bookfinder.com. Which searches Amazon including abroad, alibris, abebooks, and a bunch of other places. I don’t know if they search EBay or half.com tho.

Just lucked out.

If you have a half price books store around, it can be worth a visit to the reference or travel sections.

Now that I’ve looked at this one, I suddenly covet a whole series of them. So I can compare as the political situation changed. Also want to compare mapping style over time, just to my eye - I don’t know anything about mapping.

Of course since they started this in the late 1800’s the early editions are prob not something I’d ever be willing to put up the bucks for.

However, the post WWII editions might be had for reasonable $ if one is willing to lie in wait for a while.

This trick is make sure you’re getting the big ones, not the other ones. Sometimes it’s tricky unless you have either the isbn or pub year. And on eBay some sellers are really lax about what they put in the listing.

I think Wikipedia has a full list of editions?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Atlas_of_the_World

@OldCatLady

Here’s a teaser.

@f00l @OldCatLady Pity that I didn’t know either of you when I retired. I left behind one of those pull-down maps of the world, but with a European perspective. It was from the very early fifties, and had all the lovely country names of the day. Helpful also if you spoke, or at least read, German (the map was made in West Germany).

I used to live in a world of maps (among other things). I still love them. I trust not the GPS; give me a damned map, every time. I used to love these:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/resources/cia-maps-publications

I remember when they came on nine-track tapes, encoded in EBCDIC. All those railroads, and rivers, and lakes, and country boundaries; I almost miss working. Almost.

@Shrdlu

Map data encoded in EBCDIC on tape. Woah.

Just hope it wasn’t on paper tape.

@Shrdlu
I do trust the gps, a lot. Cause lazy.

Cause there it is.
I also have a decent garmin standalone something. And a handheld Garmin hiking thing I never messed with much.

But I love maps. In books. In Atlases. On paper. Accordion folded.

When @OldCatLady tripped the *must have maps" switch in my head, I picked up some other atlases I remembered from childhood. Some of them were intended for kids. Some I’m still trying to remember the title or publisher of.

The Times Atlas was the only one I spent notable $ only. And it wasn’t that bad. $30 plus shipping I think? I think I was quite lucky with that.

I just succumbed tho to NEW tho, after seeing the one from the 70’s. I had a gift cert for Amazon. It just went to the new ed Times Atlas. The one that’s $130 or something.

Idiot is me.

Ok I can return it if I think better of it. Only I won’t think better of it. I just know. I am a blockhead.

Around here you can get county mapsco’s with huge street by street neighborhood grids. A lot of realtors and other people who have to find places carry them. But they’re not cheap at all, and promptly out of date.

I do use paper maps for trips, unless I simply refused to plan that time. Usually. I keep my Rand McNally national road atlas and I have a decent Texas-specific atlas somewhere.

Apart from needing a data connection or a downloaded map; google maps or whatever can get me places.

But a paper map is what makes me want to go someplace. Have to go someplace. Have to put my bare feet into the Frio River, which is, you guessed it, quite cold, even in August.

Paper maps makes me need to see things I’ve never seen, never thought about seeing, until I saw them on a map.

I really love my old vintage maps of what was, in the politically incorrect terms of the era, called an “Indian Country map”.

These can be found on Ebay. Tony Hillerman supposedly used them a lot when he was doing research for his books, and they may still be the best guide to that world.

Just what you could expect: NM, AZ, southern CO, UT, NV.

Chaco Canyon. Canyon De Chelly. Shiprock. Window Rock. The Checkerboard. El Morro. Glen Canyon Reservoir. The Colorado and the San Juan Rivers. Acoma. Alamagordo and White Sands. Gila. More than an hour in Los Alamos someday. And more than an hour in an explosion calderas that look exactly like an NM alpine mountain pasture.

And Chimayo and Bryce and Mesa Verde and Escalante. Perhaps back to St Mary’s glacier and to Idaho Springs someday, or to the Tetons and to Yellowstone, where I’ve never been. The Humbolt and Carson Sinks, which I’ve never seen. The steep eastern face of the Sierra Nevada, which broke the hearts of those settlers who had survived crossing the Great Basin.

And in a thousand other places where it still feels that the land and wind and sky and water might still know things of significance to our kind, if I let my imagination run loose a bit. Or if I knew the things people once commonly knew.

And more.

The people, the history, the landscape, the emptiness, the wind that teases at history. Someday I still hope to spend serious time there, not just in imagination and tiny experiences.

It’s not the maps from google maps that call to me.

I am a blockhead and a silly one, but it all has its moments now and then.

@f00l Briefly. Paper tape was a LONG time ago (although I’ve loaded an OS into the computer from paper tape, back in 1979 or 1980). EBCDIC was used until very recently (still may be in use, for all I know). It was, and is, an efficient way to encode data. I used to have the dd command memorized to read the data from the tape, turning it into ASCII, and storing it for later use.

@Shrdlu
As I am un-young now, way back when I was un-un-un-un-young, I have used paper tape (1960’s, in middle school?), cartridges, magnetic reels, punch cards, ASCII, and EBCDIC, when I had access. At the time I thought it was all cool, and it did not make my head hurt much, back then; unless I happened to be hung over already.

Only, with mainframes, I had to either sneak around when no one was looking, or perhaps smoke dope with the operators, if I actually wanted to touch the physical machines. Smoking dope with the operators was something a lot of people did anyway, in some settings.

(You didn’t actually have to smoke dope. You could get by with just being nice, and with not being an ass, to the operators; the operators seemed to find this unusually civilized conduct quite refreshing.)

(City, yes; uni, yes; banks, no; fed, no. No “smoke dope”, I mean. It was still refreshing to the operators in more secure and formal settings if other people - even stone cold sober people - weren’t asses.)

I actually had no damn biz touching the machines or being in the room with them. But I didn’t know that then. Despite knowing a little stuff here and there, I mostly didn’t know much of anything. I didn’t even know anything about the stuff I knew a little about.

@OldCatLady

The logo shows up on my phone.

@PlacidPenguin Quest I ve been fired.
It’s back

@cranky1950
I blame you for not having a CrankyGoat icon for a while.

How very evil of you.

@f00l even if he doesn’t have the icon, we still know he is cranky

@mikibell NO SUNDROP FOR YOU!

@cranky1950 OR BLENHEIM EITHER

@cranky1950

@mikibell NO SUNDROP FOR YOU!

@cranky1950 OR BLENHEIM EITHER

You are truly cruel.

@f00l no cranky

@f00l It’s been raining here since Thursday, I think Florida has followed me north. May was in the 90s at times, that’s August weather here. Ida no I’d rather it be 110 and no humidity than 100/100.

@f00l
perhaps i should mention that i have never owned or shopped for a prius.

are there short pruis style versions, and long pruis style versions?

And if so, given that you qualified “pruis” with “short”, does that mean your household owns one of each?

@f00l Three main body styles.
/image prius c

/image prius

/image prius v

@f00l You’re over thinking this. The key words were remedial and short vehicle. reference Operation Great Job

@cranky1950

You’re over thinking this.

You think I “think”, over?

This is unremediated.

Please vehicle the short.

@f00l Ok Maybe it was the 10 martini lunch talking.

@f00l
/giphy vehicle the short

@OldCatLady Oh well guess it’s back to gin and malox. The upside is you get to eat Tums and wander around asking strangers to pull your finger.

@OldCatLady Sorry. I hope they fix it.

@OldCatLady Guess it does kinda really suck when the undignified things are not of your own choosing.

@OldCatLady You’re doing something worng, cat lady’s cause ulcers not get them.

@cranky1950 I would be very pleased to pass these to someone else. You can have the barium ‘smoothies’, too.

@OldCatLady
Serious ick. So sorry.

Are there any lifestyles one can do to mitigate this?

@f00l They all involve giving up coffee. Have I mentioned how many coffeemakers I own?

@OldCatLady Uh no. malox and jack is as theraputic as I ever want to get.

@OldCatLady Well to make it up to you, I’ll come down and rub your belly if you get me into the Ringling Museum.

@cranky1950 you are in luck…clowns get in free!

@OldCatLady I am sorry your belly hurts…I can sympathize, it sucks big time!

@cranky1950
Isn’t the Ringling Museum on the other coast?

@OldCatLady
I thought the incidence of ulcers were currently thought to be related to NSAIDs and steroid use, or that guilty bacteria. How does coffee make it all worse?

@f00l Coffee hurts. I haven’t had any since last week, don’t do NSAIDS etc. I did the H. pylorii antibiotic routine, and was certified clean. CT scan & endo have been scheduled.

@cranky1950 Even wine hurts. Everything hurts. And the museum is on the other coast, and I’ve never been, but it’s on my list.

@OldCatLady
More yuck. I am very sorry you get to face all this.

@f00l @mikibell Thank you. I’m distracting myself with pictures. Oh look, here’s somebody in my age group.

@OldCatLady Where are you Palm Coast? thought you were Tampaish.

You also have to get down to Ft Meyers and the Edison Winter Compound. It’s amazing especially if you’re an engineering geek such as moi.

@OldCatLady almost the same age…

He could leave his boots under my bed anytime!

@OldCatLady Oh God they’re gonna start tittering

@OldCatLady Have you tried switching to a different style of bean or roast to see if that makes a difference? Hate to see you have to give up coffee.

@dashcloud Short answer: Yes. I have three kinds of whole beans, any number of K-cups of varying blends, decaf stuff… The Vietnam Vets will come pick up a few boxes of stuff later this month, and I’ll have everything packed. Except one French press, and one Cuisinart, and one Keurig, and maybe the K-cup brewer. Uh…

@OldCatLady What can you eat that does not aggravate the ulcer?

@OldCatLady You can make cocoa in the Keurig, right?

@sammydog01 Yes! Cocoa! Right. And the others are in case I have guests who want coffee.

@OldCatLady Sam’s on the grit channel right now

@cranky1950 Chicken noodle soup, boiled eggs, oatmeal. However, the CT scan was clear, and I have sucralfate, which is better than Maalox.

@OldCatLady so you can go to the deli for matzoh ball soup the universal remedy.

@cranky1950 I would if I could. I’m in Jacksonville, there are precious few delis here. A few BBQ and/or wing places, lots and lots of chains. Everything is deep fried.

@OldCatLady

Should I send you some?

@OldCatLady
I’m terribly sorry you have this affliction. In your case, might this be considered kinda autoimmune?

I’m terribly sorry about the pain and stress and discomfort.

I’m terribly sorry that you may have to consider carefully what you eat.

And I’m terribly sorry you have to give up coffee.

@PlacidPenguin Nah, just have a bowl for me. There’s a place in Virginia Beach that made the best I’ve ever tasted, but they closed three years ago.

@OldCatLady Can you get away with drinking bancha tea or does that cause problems too. You’re gonna have to regress 40 years and go on a macrobiotic diet.

@cranky1950 So far, white tea with lots of milk is working. I open a bag of coffee beans and inhale; that helps. I have a large container of matcha tea; I’ll try that next. I want a latte. Oh crap, I should get rid of my espresso/cappuccino machine, too.

@OldCatLady

Can’t imagine that they’d be much help to you though.

@OldCatLady matcha might tear you up. Bancha is simmered twigs gives you nutrients and I very watered down. East West foundation warned folks not to drink tea daily as it was medicine, but bancha was food.

@cranky1950 I’ll pick some up tomorrow, and some more ginseng tea. Thanks for the tip.

@OldCatLady have you tried rooibos tea? Just wondering how it compares to black tea and how it is on the gut. Dr advised all sorts of good for me crap…like no more bread… (just take away my will for living while you’re at it, Doctor) Ezekiel is the only type she will allow…slooooowwly considering changing (again worried about belly…don’t want to fix one problem and
exacerbate another!)

@mikibell Rooibos is wonderful. I first heard about it through the Alexander McCall Smith books. It’s pretty, easy on the gut and really quenches thirst. Right now I’m drinking bancha tea suggested by @cranky1950. It’s the green tea used for everyday in Japan, much cheaper ($19. for a pound. I had to use a large canister, BLAME!) than Lipton’s. I think its fragrance and taste are lovely, and it has enough caffeine to really get you wired.

@OldCatLady awesome…looking for decaf…if I have caffeine after 3 pm I am an evil witch…(ok…i might be that regardless ) …i will buy a small box of it on the zon and try it. It does feel like my grandmother will roll over in her grave. It was Tetley or nothing for her!

@Pavlov
Just curious.
Have you personally verified in fact and truth that all these Meh ScapeGoats, are, in fact, Actual Fuckers?

Or will estimates suffice?

PS what continent are you on, this second?

@f00l

1. Rhetorical
2. Yes
3. North America

@Pavlov work shit or shit shit?

@cranky1950 Rapid detox from opiates (hooked on 'em since the accident during my goat month); decided to quit drinking at the same time too. Kept the pot though (in great supply it has been lately).

Pretty much the shit shit variety of shit.

But the pot helps.

@Pavlov Never do things halfway, do you? Good on you. My state approved pot and is now locked up on how to do it.

@Pavlov
Hope you’re past the worst of it.

Every time I hear about someone choosing to do this, I am reminded of the side story in To Kill A Mockingbird, where Scout and Jem read to their dying neighbor, who has chosen to achieve freedom from painkillers before she dies.

Congrats on seeing through a tough choice you prob could have avoided, had you wished.

(Mrs Henry Lafayette Dubose)

For Scout, Mrs. Dubose is a distressing, barely human force that takes over their afternoons after Jem goes crazy on her camellias. It’s not until after she dies that Scout and Jem get a sense of what’s going on behind the drool and venom: Mrs. Dubose is a morphine addict who had vowed to go clean before she died, and enlisted Jem and Scout (without their knowledge) to keep her off the stuff for longer and longer periods of time. Atticus tells the kids the lesson he hopes they’ve learned from her.

“I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It’s when you know you’re licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do. Mrs. Dubose won, all ninety-eight pounds of her. According to her views, she died beholden to nothing and nobody. She was the bravest person I ever knew.”

@Pavlov Keep fighting. Percocet is the devil, can’t function without it when you’re hurting though.

@f00l Thanks for that . . . It was helpful, and I had forgotten about the passage.

I had scored a few bottles of Laudanum a month or so ago. Yes, they still make it - primarily for treatment of severe diarrhea that doesn’t respond to other (more modern) molecules (hyoscyamine, etc.).

Drank both those bottles in two weeks. 114 Grams of anhydrous morphine per bottle.

(Insert “holy fuck man” here)

When I got my head clear I figured I didn’t want to be an opium eater and am fighting my way out of this before going back down south. Shit is waaaaay to easy to score down south - I need my head clear.

@cranky1950

There is no God in Heaven
And there is no Hell below
So says the great professor
Of all there is to know
But I’ve had the invitation
That a sinner can’t refuse
And it’s almost like salvation
It’s almost like the blues . . .

I’m trying to keep clear man. One day at a time.

@Pavlov

Artie Lange said something like (paraphrase):

“You can get off it, you can get clean, but you can’t get the knowledge of it out of your brain. It calls to you in your brain.”

But tho I love Artie, I think he got much further into it than you, so I hope you will experience much less of that than he did. And I don’t think he had (in the old days) anything like your reserves of discipline. He was famous 5-10 years ago for not having any discipline at all.

I hope he’s ok now. Every time he publishes a new book, I’m a little afraid to find out he’s still in opiate prison hell, or another kind of hell.

You have your substantial history of taking on big personal challenges, and you have your huge intellectual and artistic curiosity, and your personal discipline.

And you have your family, and esp @MrsPavlov, who both supports you and gives you shit; and I hope you are far better armed and prepared for this next phase than Artie Lange, the perpetual “funny guy” was in his past.

You’re surely not the only person here who had to painfully remake themselves a few times. In the Imperfection Sweepstakes, you’ve got lots of company. There are plenty of reasons people have to undo destructive parts of themselves, and figure out how to let/allow themselves to be helped, and how to get thru a day with a quite a large dose of well-earned humility and quiet clarity.

If you go through tough times and bad days, do us a favor, ok?

If you are tempted toward self-loathing or massive guilt or thinking you are worthless, or disgusting, etc, how about:

Either skip that part (it’s way way way untrue and a totally unproductive waste of time and energy anyway) or else tell @MrsPavlov to just knock that shit right out of you.
Or come here and let us do it.

@Pavlov Wishing you strength in/with your hard times.

@moondrake

/giphy "why are there goats?"

@moondrake For I cannot tell a lie, I wrapped that cable around that poor doggies laig,

@cranky1950 Wow, you have some majorly impressive ninja skills! Tempest interrupted my meh chatting to give me kissy face and that’s when she got her foot tangled up. I’m very impressed that you were able to sneak in here and wrap the cord around her foot without us noticing. Making your escape in the ensuing chaos must have been a breeze after that. Kudos.

@moondrake It helps that Great Danes have enormous feet. What will she weigh when she’s full grown?

@OldCatLady She’s a petite little thing, the girliest Dane I’ve ever had. I doubt she’ll ever break 130.

@Kawa

Yeah! That didn’t take long. Congrats, hope it’s a great place to work.

@Kawa See ya can’t keep a good geek down.

@cranky1950
Must be all your fault.

@cranky1950 we prefer to be called techo nerds, thank you very much!

@mikibell who asked you geek.

@cranky1950 I’ve lived in the south too long.

@cranky1950

@cranky1950

I’ve lived in the south too long.

Sometimes I suspect that newborns have lived in the South far too long.

@PlacidPenguin It’s for the best, you read too much go play mah jong. *

@cranky1950 @PlacidPenguin
/giphy mahjong

@narfcake It was funny until the ball gag.
Okay, it’s still kinda funny.

@PlacidPenguin
I ordered my copy in early March (same edition or version). Also got a cold-hearted cancellation email today from Amazon.

Only this annoyed me, and I did some poking around.

The reason that there are reviews already, is that the book became available on June 1. In addition to the version you and I ordered, Amazon has three other versions: another similar hardback version, a paperback version, and a Kindle version. Many customers already have their copies from Amazon and elsewhere, and have left reviews, as well as some customers who probably managed to get their hands on ARC (Advanced Reader Copy) versions, the small, plain versions sent out to book reviewers in advance of publication.

So you and I ordered the hardback that was about $16.xx.
Hardcover
Publisher: HARPER COLLINS (June 1, 2017)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0008214190
ISBN-13: 978-0008214197
Product Dimensions: 5.9 x 1.3 x 9 inches
Shipping Weight: 1.3 pounds

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/0008214190?sa-no-redirect=1

The other hardback version is $18.00
Hardcover: 288 pages
Publisher: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt; 1st Edition edition (June 1, 2017)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1328791823
ISBN-13: 978-1328791825
Product Dimensions: 5.5 x 1 x 8.2 inches
Shipping Weight: 2 pounds

https://smile.amazon.com/Beren-Lúthien-J-R-R-Tolkien/dp/1328791823/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1496985627&sr=1-1&keywords=beren+and+luthien&refinements=p_n_feature_nine_browse-bin%3A3291437011

Note the difference in the dimensions and the shipping weights.

I can’t get anyone at Amazon to tell my exactly why they cancelled so many orders (it appears many orders were cancelled.)

Doing some poking around and guessing, my best possible explanation is that the one you and I ordered is the UK/Canada publisher’s edition, which should have never been for sale in the US, except as a used or imported book.

The slightly more expensive version they have in stock is the US publisher’s edition, the only version that ought ever to have been listed for sale in the US as a new, non-imported book through an established bookseller.

So the original Amazon listing we purchased is likely erroneous and should have never been for sale here new. The non-explanatory email they sent cancelling the order was unpleasant; what they should have done is, offer everyone a $2 discount and a link to purchase the US version.

Anyway, I got them to do that for me. I called them, and purchased the US version, and got them to then apply a $2 credit to my account.

I will have to point out that all this toil and trouble, and Amazon’s original erroneous offer of the new UK edition - all this is clearly the fault of @cranky1950.

/giphy goat book

@f00l

I’m not ordering the book now.

@f00l Can’t tell you how exhilarating it is to cause you to go through so much grief for 2 bucks.

@narfcake if you scroll fast the B&W toon gets colorered.

@cranky1950

I was way more interested in the explanation for the fuckup/mystery than in the $2. But since I was on the phone …

/giphy annoyed

@f00l
sure sure any way you want to spin it.

@cranky1950

Oh, I have to call Amazon and yell at them over something insignificant at least once a year or so.

So it was overdue.

/giphy spin

@narfcake

Large doesn’t help me.

---

I blame @cranky1950.

@PlacidPenguin Then get your own subscription!

Or you could buy something penguin-y while everything is on sale this weekend.

@narfcake Im sorry I made you watch the Gidget and Flying Nun Binge.

@cranky1950 Fuck.

The least you could’ve done was pass the blame onto the resident shirtgoat instead, y’know!!

@f00l Oh bless your heart

@cranky1950 You do realize that people in Texas know how to translate that, right?

@OldCatLady
It’s ok. He’s just cranky.

@OldCatLady uh huh that’s the point. Timing is everything when you use that one

@cranky1950
I forgive you. Totally.

@f00l You ahhhh really need to do something about that breath

@cranky1950
I will do something. I will cherish it.

Atlanta or thereabouts, yes?

Too bad I can’t just destroy the entire metropolis. Atlanta contains people I’m quite fond of. Guess I’ll have to get a more precise read on the target.

@f00l I can see how you’d be pretty much a monster before that first suck of coffee.

@cranky1950 Please stop drawing my attention to coffee. It’s been 12 days since I had any. That’s your fault.

@OldCatLady I’m sorry you’re “that stuff” challenged and will endeavor to not reference “that stuff” while you cannot have “that stuff”.

@cranky1950

I can see how you’d be pretty much a monster before that first suck of coffee.

Pretty much?

Before? Before anything?

As tho being a serious MONSTER is not a full-time calling in my very soul?

Sir, I am insulted.

/giphy insulted monster

I might have to dispatch some very special weird wimmen to your vicinity.

@cranky1950 You might as well tell me not to think about 45. Reminders are everywhere.

@OldCatLady I know.
/image 45’s

Are you okay with tea, or does that aggravate the ulcer also?

@OldCatLady

Is it the acidic nature of coffee and other drinks? Or just coffee that bothers you?

@f00l are you a great auntie yet?

@mikibell

I am.

: )
: )
: )

/giphy smile

@cranky1950 @f00l @narfcake White tea isn’t too bad, acidic drinks are bad, and kombucha has enough alcohol to get me buzzed. (I’m a cheap drunk.) Bancha tea is on order. Most herbal teas, including ginseng, are okay, and I have plenty of those. Manuka honey has healing properties, but tastes like motor oil smells, so I stir it in and then use regular honey to mask the taste. I have six coffee, espresso and cappuccino makers boxed for pickup. Basta!

@OldCatLady

: (

Glad you have a few alts.

We (parents and teens) love the Deadpool scene:
Deadpool: "Sullen silence or mean comment?"
Negasonic Teenage Warhead: “You kinda boxed me in here.”

@sammydog01 Awww. Can you put up a birdhouse to make amends?

@OldCatLady I have four bird houses up. They prefer the dryer vent.

@sammydog01 Make a birdhouse out of dryer vent!

@OldCatLady That’s actually a pretty good idea. I may try it next year.

@OldCatLady nanny nanny boo boo

@f00l

http://shirt.woot.com/offers/highly-efficient?ref=meh_com

@sammydog01 I’ll try to do better next time.

@sammydog01

You can drop off or pay for UPS and FedEx and DHL at all those private mailbox places. You know that right?

You don’t have to “go to the vendor and stand in line”.

@f00l May be it makes her feel all business

@cranky1950 fuking autocorrect that’s businessy

@cranky1950 Yep, I put on my suit, pearls, low heeled pumps and everything.

@f00l I needed an estimate to make sure I didn’t have to go home and take stuff out, and I don’t own a postage scale.
/giphy so there

@sammydog01
Ok.

I’m thoroughly (“So there!”)'d.

@f00l My pleasure. Anything I can do.

@narfcake whew

@cranky1950

For that:

(Major Unblame)^(Umpteenth)

I say!

/giphy umpteenth

@narfcake didn’t we already know that? Why is it an unblame?

Personally, I’m just confused. Not unusual, of course.

@Shrdlu
Sometimes I think

Enlightened Confusion = Sanity = Zen.

But then sometimes I don’t think.

@f00l

PS
@cranky1950
I blame you for the existence of confusion.

Are you cranky yet? Do you need to be crankier?

Do tell.

@f00l Huh? ? ? ?

I’m blaming @cranky1950 because @shrdlu is confused over your unblaming. And blaming you again because I was off a couple digits in probating the reported spammer yesterday.

(The last time, I accidentally gave a 10+ year probation instead of a 1+ year probation. Oops.)

@OldCatLady you could use a straw???

@OldCatLady Make wine slushies.

@sammydog01 That’s an idea. I’m packing Mehrican exchange stuff, so someone may get a very random box, depending on how fast the bottle goes.

@OldCatLady Yes it’s my fault that you are a wine wimp.

@OldCatLady hehe we already know they are getting 2x sweatshirts

@f00l Hey I am everything to everyone, well except the tentacle henti freaks.

@cranky1950

Hey I am everything to everyone, well except the tentacle henti freaks.

I blame you for not being anything to the tentacle henti freaks.

@f00l Up ya nose widda rubba hose.

@cranky1950

Like this?

@f00l ewww that can’t be healthy.

@OldCatLady Hey if you’re gonna do something you should totally commit to giving your all.

@CaptAmehrican Stop whining slacker.

@CaptAmehrican Cheer up, at the rate the weather is disintegrating, they’ll both be cancelled.

@CaptAmehrican

You tri? Mini-tri?
So cool! Am impressed.

My niece and cousin started with 5k’s. Then half marathons. Then marathons. Then tri’s. Now ironmans. Several a year. Fate worse than death, obviously.

My other cousin is a wimp who only does marathons.

I am smart, I sit on the couch and don’t think about it much.

PS
I really really admire you.

PPS
you are an asshole for being so much fitter than the rest of us.

PPPS
You are fitter than the rest of us but you are not an asshole.

PPPPS.
i might possibly be an asshole.

PPPPPS.
@cranky1950 I blame you because I am an asshole.

@f00l key word is mini. I am part of a commitee that is organizing a mini tri. It is a 3 mile bike thru ft mchenry, 2 mile run to the science center ,and a2 leg sail
It is no where near regular tri length it is a silly event that raises money to help handicaped kids get to learn to sail.
On each leg at your midpoint you get two poker cards. Winning is done by poker hands not time. The goal is to finish and have fun.
However I have been doing c25k getting up to the ability to run a 5k so these 2 event will be exhausting together. Partucularly as i will be up early doing set up.

@CaptAmehrican
Yeah, but I still admire you.

And I am still an asshole. You are not.

@cranky1950, I blame you because I would collapse after the first 20 seconds of a marathon or ironman.

Your fault.

@f00l Well between the two of us we’ve 40sec done if we tag team.

@CaptAmehrican So let us go how it goes. You back on tall ships this summer rather than the water taxi?

@SpaceBreak June 29, 2025 …

@narfcake

Ooooh. The day I ascend to God-like powers! How special!

@SpaceBreak
Your punishment for living in what used to be near-paradise.

@SpaceBreak Yes, but it created 13 acres of property with a great view. Sooner or later there will be a concessions area and hiking trail. http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/us/big-sur-landslide/index.html

@OldCatLady

I guess that’s a bright side.

Although they’re saying it could take a year + millions of dollars to clean.

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As a side note, I’m blaming @cranky1950 for my posting this in the wrong month.

@thismyusername you don’t want to be there when the yellowstone caldera erupts anyway. Personally if feel that it’s God’s punishment for not making more Beach Party movies.

@cranky1950

I approve of your theology, sir.

/giphy "Beach blanket bingo"

@f00l
That giphy isn’t a beach party, but it stays.

@cranky1950 Cue Jimmy Buffet - Volcano

@f00l it is only missing the beach, party is in full force.

@f00l Wheeeeeeeedoggies

@cranky1950 How’d they get that many pit puppies to sit still and kick the crap out of one another long enough to take that shot. Probably superglue.

@cranky1950
Nope. They’re just confused like me.

I need to arrange for everyone who looks at me using VR glasses or hallucinogens to see a pulsing floating multicolor question mark over my skull.

/giphy question mark

@f00l I’m in

@narfcake Fifty posts on a shirt thread not including the ones you removed? Pretty impressive.

@narfcake

What’s going on over there that I should blame @cranky1950 for?