@cengland0 Come listen to a story all about how that price got flipped turned upside down I'd like to take a minute just sit right there I'll tell you how it became the real deal of the day.
So as far as allergy relief goes I find heap air filters great. But not air purifiers. I don't feel they do much good. You really need to be filtering the air intake at the source instead of filtering some air that is around other air. That's my take atleast. Good price. But I won't be buying.
@sohmageek depends on how air gets into your room. If there is an continuous source of outside air, you are absolutely right, it needs to be filtered as it comes in.
@sp3ar I was just at a hospital/pharma expo on Friday and got some sweet swag. Wish an air filter was included :( ... but I also don't really need this...
@JonT Actually you couldn't. PHARMA guidlines no longer allow pharmaceutical companies from providing branded goodies like, pens, paper, clocks, mousepads, and other chachkies (especially HEPA filters). We are now only allowed to provide physician or patient education material. I know because I actually work for the company that owns Claritin.
@cengland0 Yes and No. 99% of all pharmaceutical companies do follow strict adherence to the PHARMA guidelines. It is industry enforced, but is not taken lightly. Pharmaceutical companies realized they needed to reign things in or the government would do it for them. There are also the very strict FDA regulations of what we can and can't say about products. We are VERY highly regulated. The "wild west" days of what people think of pharmaceutical companies are long gone. Which is a good thing.
@mfladd So the FDA or "PHARMA" regulates what you can say, but what about what you can pay MDs to prescribe your goodies? Bonuses, golf trips, rounds of golf, golf clubs, sporting event tickets, free drug samples to get patients on the train? (Don't get me wrong, no problem with that stuff as long as it is publicly disclosed.)
@RedOak Pharmaceutical and medical device companies have had stricter limitations on what they can provide to physicians for a few years now. Gone are the days of Viagra pens and clocks (seriously Viagra wall clocks). Clinical studies who seek FDA approval also need to collect Financial Disclosure information from any physicians to highlight any financial interest/influence they may have. (not wrong to have stock/consulting fees from a company, just has to be disclosed) Additionally, times when a physician may be discussing clinical study results at a conference, the physician has a slide that mentions their financial dealings with companies. The Sunshine Act has been collecting information on payments from pharma companies to physicians and this is publicly available for scrutiny. That isn't to say doctors don't still ask about what they can be given, as they're still sometimes used to the glory days of golf trips and steak dinners and free admission to the Catalina Wine Mixer.
@RedOak There are no more goodies. We can not provide golf trips, tickets, or any of that. The only way a physician can be seen out of office is with a program which includes a speaker, where the speaker would be a thought leader in their field. The only thing I can provide to a doctor is lunch in his office which is considered a thank you for his time. All of these lunches are documented and are covered by the "sunshine act" all of which is available online for all to see.Those days belong to the 80's and early 90's. Samples are provided to help patients to see if they can tolerate a product without paying out of pocket or those in need. They are always provided by the physician. Like I said, the perception that people have of pharmaceutical representatives is just not true. I came to this job with a health-related backgound and worked in hospitals for years. I take pride in the fact that I always have the patients welfare in mind first and foremost. Maybe not all reps do, but I do.
Or I should say we did own Claritin. It was sold to Bayer at the end of 2014. Blame them for the name licensing. Or @narfcake - that is his job this month.
I mean, it does make a little sense. Claritin is allergy medicine, they were probably trying to market this to people with allergies saying it removed cat dander or pollen from the air.
@Pantheist yea, they make a number of anti-allergy products. We have Claritin dust mite covers for our pillows since my wife is allergic to the little buggers
@Pantheist Yeah... but it's like a Charles Shaw branded corkscrew. Or Fiji water branded crystal. Or Cheezit branded china bowls. Just kind of ... silly.
@johnamo I see it more like they paid said companies for their name to be imprinted on the product as an advertisement. They bascially have placed an ad on a product that you will see often... re-enforcing branding. Look at the Yonanas, pardon me.. the "Dole Yonanas" ;)
I almost bought this to thank you for the crazy awesome write-up. Too bad our current HEPA filter is already disused in a corner. Collecting dust, you might say.
@sligett Because the height of most closets are standardized at 8 feet. Even the smallest 10x10 bedroom that I have exceeds the capacity of this filter and that room is so small that the largest bed I could fit in is a twin.
@sligett To get technical, the actual rating to pay attention to is the CADR ("clean air delivery rate"). This is the volume of filtered air measured in cubic feet per minute, using a standard procedure. The room size claims are usually based on an 8 ft ceiling, but sometimes exaggerated
This also can convert into a piggy bank, which is great for those who are die-hard frugals such as myself: 1. Cut a coin slot at the top. 2. Rip out the filter and other electronic pieces within the shell. 3. Voila! Start saving some money!!!
Girlfriend has been complaining about her allergies being the worst they've ever been in her life. Her face is red and she's building a replica of The Wall from Game of Thrones out of used tissues. So... acoustic-worried-laugh
If you're looking for something that's up to the task of extracting dust from than fractional rooms, Winix and Coway make beefier models which can be found, at the whim of the Amazon gods, for between $120 and $160 from time to time. They fared well "in the arena"[1].
Somebody help me. I want the horizontal white. It just asked me to choose black or white while displaying it horizontally. When I choose the color white it flips the image to the vertical unit. Is it one in the same or two different variants? So confused. What did I just buy?
@Upallnite Were your hands shaking at the time for getting such a good deal? Maybe you just rotated your phone into landscape mode. I'm going to guess it's all the same; they all come with a stand.
People seem to be under the impression that 84sqft is static... am i wrong for thinking it will "cover" more square-footage if air in the room is circulating?
Anyone know if this thing would have any effect in a regular-height cube? Some of my coworkers wear waaaaay too much perfume, and I am a special snowflake who has trouble working when I can't see or breathe.
I arrived arrived TWO MINUTES after this had sold out. Thirty-eight dollars is my price point. Does anyone have any idea where I can get a similar device? I'm heartbroken at having missed this.
@trisk wow! That's a very confusing item, what with the constant combination of of "HEPA-type" and "true HEPA" mixed together, but I'm soooo very grateful you found that and let me know about it! I've ordered it, and my heart is unbroken now. Thanks so very much for letting me know about it; you've improved my day enormously, and the placebo effect has already improved my asthma and my allergies. I owe you one!
I just noticed a larger (30") version of this thing on Woot for $70. It's buried in one of those pet sales they're running on Sellout this week. The one that mentions cleaning the air.
@bacon4jason there is in the instructions, I thought the same thing at first but it's towards the end and not very prominent. I think it says "usage" or something similar. I'll check later today.
Specs
Condition: New
Warranty: 3 Year Holmes
Estimated Delivery: 6/1 - 6/3
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
1x Air Purifier
Pictures
Horizontal white
Vertical white
Vertical black
Price Comparison
$139.99 List, $97.35 at Amazon for White
$139.99 List, $81.37 at Amazon for Black
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Warranty
90 days
Smell the Fresh Meh. Price wise this deal rocks, and reviews look decent.
@Stallion I thought you said Fresh Prince at first.
@cengland0
Come listen to a story
all about how
that price got
flipped turned upside down
I'd like to take a minute
just sit right there
I'll tell you how it became
the real deal of the day.
I want it, but I don't want to spend my money on it. That's a problem.
@shortman hmm...is there a legal way for you to spend someone else's money on it?
@JonT JonT can you spend your money on this for me?
@JonT Sure, the federal government does it all the time.
@msimard8 I was afraid you were going to suggest that...no, I can't because I'm broke ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Holla if you thought it was a fancy Bluetooth speaker :/
@brettkbowers It's not Friday yet, we've still got two more days.
@brettkbowers Yup, and I was disappointed. It's a speaker that only reproduces 0Hz.
How quiet is it? I'd consider one of these for work since my workplace is a giant dustbowl.
@mehgrl The specs say it has "Five settings, ranging from Ultra Quiet to Ultra Clean" so it's ultra quiet.
@JonT So you you can have quiet or you can have clean?
@JonT Ultra is just so vague. Now if it said whisper quiet, that I can replicate. I'd even settle for careless whisper quiet.
@mehgrl Seriously though, I'll see later today if we can find out how actually quiet it is.
@JonT @mehgrl buy this, and you'll never have to dust again...
So as far as allergy relief goes I find heap air filters great. But not air purifiers. I don't feel they do much good. You really need to be filtering the air intake at the source instead of filtering some air that is around other air. That's my take atleast. Good price. But I won't be buying.
@sohmageek heap or hemp air filters?
@sligett yes.
@sligett dyca. Yeah hepa
@sohmageek depends on how air gets into your room. If there is an continuous source of outside air, you are absolutely right, it needs to be filtered as it comes in.
@trisk What if I want to filter the outside air outside. Is there a air filter for the world that I can buy that is affordable?
38 dollars for something that looks like was part of some pharma swag from a convention? this is where it came from didn't it?
@sp3ar I was just at a hospital/pharma expo on Friday and got some sweet swag. Wish an air filter was included :( ... but I also don't really need this...
@sp3ar You mean we could have got these for free at a Pharma convention!? Man, we're in the wrong business!
@JonT Actually you couldn't. PHARMA guidlines no longer allow pharmaceutical companies from providing branded goodies like, pens, paper, clocks, mousepads, and other chachkies (especially HEPA filters). We are now only allowed to provide physician or patient education material. I know because I actually work for the company that owns Claritin.
@mfladd That's just a voluntary guideline, right?
@cengland0 Yes and No. 99% of all pharmaceutical companies do follow strict adherence to the PHARMA guidelines. It is industry enforced, but is not taken lightly. Pharmaceutical companies realized they needed to reign things in or the government would do it for them. There are also the very strict FDA regulations of what we can and can't say about products. We are VERY highly regulated. The "wild west" days of what people think of pharmaceutical companies are long gone. Which is a good thing.
@mfladd So the FDA or "PHARMA" regulates what you can say, but what about what you can pay MDs to prescribe your goodies? Bonuses, golf trips, rounds of golf, golf clubs, sporting event tickets, free drug samples to get patients on the train? (Don't get me wrong, no problem with that stuff as long as it is publicly disclosed.)
@RedOak Pharmaceutical and medical device companies have had stricter limitations on what they can provide to physicians for a few years now. Gone are the days of Viagra pens and clocks (seriously Viagra wall clocks). Clinical studies who seek FDA approval also need to collect Financial Disclosure information from any physicians to highlight any financial interest/influence they may have. (not wrong to have stock/consulting fees from a company, just has to be disclosed) Additionally, times when a physician may be discussing clinical study results at a conference, the physician has a slide that mentions their financial dealings with companies. The Sunshine Act has been collecting information on payments from pharma companies to physicians and this is publicly available for scrutiny. That isn't to say doctors don't still ask about what they can be given, as they're still sometimes used to the glory days of golf trips and steak dinners and free admission to the Catalina Wine Mixer.
@RedOak There are no more goodies. We can not provide golf trips, tickets, or any of that. The only way a physician can be seen out of office is with a program which includes a speaker, where the speaker would be a thought leader in their field. The only thing I can provide to a doctor is lunch in his office which is considered a thank you for his time. All of these lunches are documented and are covered by the "sunshine act" all of which is available online for all to see.Those days belong to the 80's and early 90's. Samples are provided to help patients to see if they can tolerate a product without paying out of pocket or those in need. They are always provided by the physician. Like I said, the perception that people have of pharmaceutical representatives is just not true. I came to this job with a health-related backgound and worked in hospitals for years. I take pride in the fact that I always have the patients welfare in mind first and foremost. Maybe not all reps do, but I do.
@404Error You are correct. I take it you are in the business or health care related field to have this knowledge?
Or I should say we did own Claritin. It was sold to Bayer at the end of 2014. Blame them for the name licensing. Or @narfcake - that is his job this month.
@mfladd ...Yes, but I'll admit nothing!! (too late)
I've actually been wanting one of these for a couple months, and I couldn't say no to this price. Thanks meh!
@deputyderp Ditto. Glad I waited for a sale :)
I mean, it does make a little sense. Claritin is allergy medicine, they were probably trying to market this to people with allergies saying it removed cat dander or pollen from the air.
@Pantheist yea, they make a number of anti-allergy products. We have Claritin dust mite covers for our pillows since my wife is allergic to the little buggers
@Pantheist Yeah... but it's like a Charles Shaw branded corkscrew. Or Fiji water branded crystal. Or Cheezit branded china bowls. Just kind of ... silly.
@johnamo I see it more like they paid said companies for their name to be imprinted on the product as an advertisement. They bascially have placed an ad on a product that you will see often... re-enforcing branding. Look at the Yonanas, pardon me.. the "Dole Yonanas" ;)
I almost bought this to thank you for the crazy awesome write-up. Too bad our current HEPA filter is already disused in a corner. Collecting dust, you might say.
@mhuyck You trying to sell that perfectly fine true-HEPA air filter?
I would totally wear Lunesta pajamas
"Up to 84 sqft"? I would get this, but I don't live in a closet...
@trisk now that was funny.
@trisk I wonder why these are specified in sqft and not cuft? Isn't that what matters?
@sligett because Americans are horrible at math, especially in the dimensions
@trisk buy one for your favorite prisoner when they go to Solitary
@sligett Because the height of most closets are standardized at 8 feet. Even the smallest 10x10 bedroom that I have exceeds the capacity of this filter and that room is so small that the largest bed I could fit in is a twin.
@sligett To get technical, the actual rating to pay attention to is the CADR ("clean air delivery rate"). This is the volume of filtered air measured in cubic feet per minute, using a standard procedure. The room size claims are usually based on an 8 ft ceiling, but sometimes exaggerated
OK, I can start building my own WALL-E
I want an air filter, but $38...
How many units do you have? :D
Hey meh, I saw something like this for 49.99 at lowes today... but what I really need is a de-humidifier... got any of those laying around?
@thismyusername http://www.amazon.com/Dry-Packs-Cotton-Silica-Packet-Pack/dp/B0038N30OY
This also can convert into a piggy bank, which is great for those who are die-hard frugals such as myself:
1. Cut a coin slot at the top.
2. Rip out the filter and other electronic pieces within the shell.
3. Voila! Start saving some money!!!
I misread "Hershey expanding foam chocolate" and now I can't think of about anything else. Can you get some expanding foam chocolate?
@Jetlag that sounds dangerous
@jqubed and awesome
@Kleineleh Right up until it ruptures your stomach, or expands up into your lungs.
@jqubed You want to use the minimal expanding chocolate foam for desserts.... the high expanding chocolate foam is for dance raves.
@Jetlag
@jqubed I'm sure there are worse ways to go than by chocolate
@Kleineleh "I never thought I'd die this way. But I always really hoped!"
@jqubed death by snu snu!
Baby Arm.
@jqubed baby arm
@JonT Meh or meh?
@RedOak Yes, depending on where it is used?
Girlfriend has been complaining about her allergies being the worst they've ever been in her life. Her face is red and she's building a replica of The Wall from Game of Thrones out of used tissues. So... acoustic-worried-laugh
@esjacobs . . . never mind.
Yep, this is a cross-branding fail. And the "permanent" filter must be replaced every 3 years or so. Screw that.
But I really love the 808 bluetooth headphones, now that was a sweet deal!
@uwacn Yes agreed !!!!
I bought four pairs of the wired ones and didn't buy the bluetooth because I didn't want to have to go to rehab! Now I regret everything!
My husband is obsessed with air filters of many sorts.
sharp-open-bead
Between this and the Holmes filters I bought recently, my supply of clean air is dependent on a site represented by a puppet.
Hey is someone from the meh art department moonlighting over at amazon? Take a look at this picture they have over there...
@thismyusername The filter can hover? Bonus!
@thismyusername At least they put effort into photoshopping the dog into the picture. The air filter doesn't even cast a shadow!
I thought I was looking at a grill for an Edsel.
84 FT. Is a small portion of my kitchen seems i would need 3 for 1 rm ..
@mellowirishgent I was confused on that as well. My bedroom is 220 sq ft. Maybe this is for use in a bathroom.
In for two because I have an unclean-thunderous-dolphin. Stinky and loud.
If you're looking for something that's up to the task of extracting dust from than fractional rooms, Winix and Coway make beefier models which can be found, at the whim of the Amazon gods, for between $120 and $160 from time to time. They fared well "in the arena"[1].
[1] http://thesweethome.com/reviews/best-air-purifier/
I'd be in at $12.
The eject button makes me wonder.
The atomic button makes me worry.
Somebody help me. I want the horizontal white. It just asked me to choose black or white while displaying it horizontally. When I choose the color white it flips the image to the vertical unit. Is it one in the same or two different variants? So confused. What did I just buy?
@Upallnite Were your hands shaking at the time for getting such a good deal? Maybe you just rotated your phone into landscape mode.
I'm going to guess it's all the same; they all come with a stand.
@Upallnite The unit can be either horiztonal or vertical with the stand. You choose when you assemble it from the box.
How dare meh slow down my purchase by making me choose a color! I don't have time for such trifles. Get out of the way and take my money.
Goat Milk? Gross.
People seem to be under the impression that 84sqft is static... am i wrong for thinking it will "cover" more square-footage if air in the room is circulating?
@jralexander418 depends on if it can keep up with the additional dust. It will definitely cover more if the air is circulating in a closed room.
Image shopping just isn't doing it for me today. crucial-overblown-crumpet lacks something, so I substituted this guy
@OldCatLady More like precarious-abdominal-vein
No Georgia Red. . . for that alone, meh.
@jrwofuga No jacket yellow, either :P
@whogots . . ugh.
I ordered the white one. White is a good color for an air cleaning product.
@frmorrison I ordered the black one, but I feel like the white one might work better.
Anyone know if this thing would have any effect in a regular-height cube? Some of my coworkers wear waaaaay too much perfume, and I am a special snowflake who has trouble working when I can't see or breathe.
@whogots the carbon filter and ioniser should help with odors.
Mods: was "merch." = Merck. Either way, well played.
I arrived arrived TWO MINUTES after this had sold out. Thirty-eight dollars is my price point. Does anyone have any idea where I can get a similar device? I'm heartbroken at having missed this.
@BinkyMelnik you're in luck, there's a more powerful model from the same manufacturer (Holmes) at $31.49 on Amazon: http://smile.amazon.com/Holmes-HEPA-Desktop-Purifier-HAP242-NUC/dp/B0000DK35B ... though it seems a true HEPA replacement filter will cost you extra.
@BinkyMelnik Never regret a missed meh! Your life will be much easier that way.
@trisk wow! That's a very confusing item, what with the constant combination of of "HEPA-type" and "true HEPA" mixed together, but I'm soooo very grateful you found that and let me know about it! I've ordered it, and my heart is unbroken now. Thanks so very much for letting me know about it; you've improved my day enormously, and the placebo effect has already improved my asthma and my allergies. I owe you one!
I just noticed a larger (30") version of this thing on Woot for $70. It's buried in one of those pet sales they're running on Sellout this week. The one that mentions cleaning the air.
I just realized this is an air purifier and not a speaker
Sold Out! Nooooooo. Allergies are killing me. Did anyone buy an extra one I might be able to buy off you??
@Asher yes
there's no information what each button does T__T
@bacon4jason there's a pic of an atom, which i assume is the ionizer, but theres a tornado and a filter pic
@bacon4jason there is in the instructions, I thought the same thing at first but it's towards the end and not very prominent. I think it says "usage" or something similar. I'll check later today.
@bacon4jason I spent way too much time on this for you:
New Claritin Flamethrower Incinerates Whatever Causing Allergies
http://www.theonion.com/article/new-claritin-flamethrower-incinerates-whatever-cau-50576