Card Games
7So, @brandom introduced me to the DC deckbuilding games by Cryptozoic a while back:
We played it a bunch for a while, but then @nommynoms and @halfling started talking about MTG, and I got a little hooked.
Anyone else here play or just collect? If so, any advice for a new player? What’s your favorite card? How did you decide what deck to make? What do you think about the Guild boxes, are they any good?
Also, Slivers are apparently coming back? Everyone here groaned when they hear that. Are they right, or should I be excited?
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Oh my sweet summer child
A ) Guilds are cool. Guild packs are okay
B ) Fuck slivers.
C ) Best card in Magic is finally getting some spotlight: Mycosynth Lattice
CCGs are money pits.
Advice to a new player: Quit while you’re not as far behind.
@Limewater Can’t “this hobby costs money so quit now” really be applied to anything?
Where do you draw the line that determines if your hobby is worth your money?
@Cythwulf You asked for advice and I gave it.
It’s your money, and I’m a random,cheap moron on the internet. I’m not actually going to judge you on how you choose to spend your money, as long as you’re taking care of your responsibilities.
@Limewater fair. It was an honest question though. If you like something, you do have to figure out your limits, no?
@Limewater At least mtg cards can go up in value while the cash in your wallet only goes down? That’s what I’ll keep telling myself.
I would be interested to see what $10,000 cards in MTG would do value-wise over ten years compared to what $10,000 in a savings/investment account would do. That would be neat.
Except I can’t play with a savings account?
@nommynoms There is a big difference between a savings account and an investment account.
A savings account will offer very low, but stable, interest and easy liquidity.
An investment account is where you put money you actually want to invest in bonds, stocks, mutual funds, ETFs, or whatever.
“Historically” across the board the stock market has returned, like, 7% a year on average. I would be wary of this, though. “Historical returns” in the U.S. are based pretty much entirely on a golden era of history that I believe is coming to an end.
But yeah, if you pick the right card, your $10,000 investment could make a lot of money. But you’re not going to pick the right card, so I wouldn’t worry too much about how you’re going to report your big pay day on your taxes in ten years.
@Cythwulf I’m sure you could do a lot worse than Magic.
You could buy a boat…
@Limewater or a motorized RV. shudders
@nommynoms Also, if you want to play with your money AND throw it away, you should look into options trading.
@Limewater @nommynoms
actually zero
I played MTG way back when
I actually had beta cards, cards I spent a bit too much on, dual lands, etc.
Value 20 years later was less than original purchase price. When I hadn’t played in years, my daughter either, she took both decks. Only my betas, a few of my v.3 and the dual lands had any worth, and we are not talking she could get 1000s out of binders full of cards, we are talking hundreds.
so, no, not an investment. few things turn out to be.
My card game of choice, of which I have sunk almost no money into but play at lunch.
I should’ve gotten you into Pokemon before they ruined you…RIP.
@brandom you had so long to try too…
@brandom @Cythwulf why not both!?
@Sohmageek They’re talking about that Magic the Gathering thing. You should check out the thread.
@sammydog01 lol. I saw it before the email ping! I still troll about
thanks for the ping. I don’t always come around though.
Lol I came here expecting to read about games like room, skipbo, phase ten, etc.
@ivannabc UNO!
@ivannabc @therealjrn Same, damn I’m old. Rack-o!
@llangley @therealjrn OMG I had a friend that had that and I thought it was sooooo cool. But I bet it was one of those things that was better in concept than application lol
@ivannabc @llangley @therealjrn I had forgotten Racko! I really liked that one. I played Uno constantly for about a year and occasionally later. Tons of regular deck cards too. …spades, hearts pinochle ect.
I haven’t played MTG in probably 20+ years. My favorite artwork at the time was:
My friend got me into it and gave me a red/blue deck. If I had known anything, I would of asked for a black deck. The swamp artwork was up my alley.
@RiotDemon I was gifted a green deck and I’ve really enjoyed the art from that. One of the green cards clued me in that “werewolf” decks could be a thing, so I’m going to piecemeal one together.
@RiotDemon I think I’ve got this one in my collection at home.
oh boy…
I’ve been playing for over 14 years now. I love doing non-creature strategies. Extra turns and planeswalkers is great.
You kids and you’re newfangled games. I prefer OG cards. Right now I’m strung out on Microsoft Solitaire (free iOS version) Klondike. Currently level 89 with about 1,800 hands played and a 72% win rate. Best time: 1:27. Best score: 3,135.
@ruouttaurmind try Solitaire Collection…includes Free Cell, Spider and Pyramid as well. Plus they have 2 and 4 player Klondike tournaments you might like
One of my long-term favorites was always Elesh - coughno i’m not evilcough
@halfling I won’t judge you for the Norn. Vorinclex can eat a whole banana tho
@halfling @nommynoms Elesh Norn and Vorinclex are both mean, but have you ever seen a Jin Gitaxias hit the board on turn 1? Now that is evil.
@halfling @Sabre99 ANY Praetor turn one should not be allowed.
Also: Who hurt you like this?
@nommynoms One of my friends in my EDH group has done this to me a couple of times. Thankfully he no longer has that deck (sold his collection to start an arcade business) and just plays one of my 30-ish EDH decks…
@Sabre99 “No no it’s fine, I’ll just buy a Force of Will at the cost of my soul to nope that.”
I’m glad he sold it, now you don’t have to kill him.
I’ve been playing for about 4 years now. I was totally addicted right out of the gate. As a new player, you’ll need to decide what format you want to play before building a deck. What do your friends play?
Constructed formats have a 60 card minimum size for your deck and you can have up to 4 copies of any given card (not counting basic lands).
Standard is one of the most popular constructed formats. It’s what’s called a rotating format in which the “legal” card pool consists of sets released in the past 18 months. As time goes on, new cards enter the card pool and others drop off. This format requires constant money flow as for you to stay current, you’re required to buy new cards.
Modern (also constructed) is a bigger card pool consisting of anything from 8th edition forward. The more competitive decks in this format require a large amount of money up front but the cards don’t rotate out of legality.
Legacy and Vintage are along the same lines as above but only use the oldest cards.
There are also limited formats called Sealed and Draft. You don’t build your deck for these formats; you go to your local game store and open booster packs and then build a deck from the cards you open.
And I leave the best for last (IMO).
Commander/EDH. A constructed format where you build decks consisting of 100 cards but unlike Standard and Modern, you can only have 1 copy of any given card (not counting basic lands). You pick a Legendary Creature and build your deck based off the colors of said creature. You can choose from any card in magic minus a continually updated list of banned cards.
So I know i threw a lot at you there but there’s so many different avenues to take in this game. Have fun!
@TheTwizz The deck I was gifted was a green standard play deck, and I liked that so much, I went and bought the Lord Windgrace commander deck. I’ve like both so far but haven’t managed to win a game yet.
This is probably going to make a lot of you gag, but some friends (women) and I are getting together for a poker night. We play what I call frou-frou poker, but from dredging our memories we’ve only been able to come up with a couple that aren’t straight five card stud and so on. Queen and what follows. No-peek baseball. I’d welcome any others.
@pooflady Texas Hold 'Em! We used to play all the time. Even played at the casino sometimes until the tournaments got too expensive
@pooflady
Baseball
https://bicyclecards.com/how-to-play/baseball-poker/
@Cerridwyn @pooflady
Tough game
@Cerridwyn @therealjrn And 4s get an extra card. This game I know. And we play it no-peek.
@Cerridwyn @pooflady @therealjrn We had poker nights when I was in high school and college. Nothing serious, used our change for betting. I was always the loser.
My favorite “fun” game was Dr. Pepper – 10’s, 2’s, and 4’s wild. Yep, I was the loser in this game, too.
@Barney @Cerridwyn @therealjrn Okay, that sounds like fun, I wrote it down.
@pooflady It’s complete chaos.