Buffy the Vampire Slayer Fans?

@eonfifty You’re better off. It’s terrible. Joss as a twenty-something screenwriter got influenced too heavy by the studio execs and they twisted his idea in a goofy comedy. The show was closer to his original vision.

@ACraigL @eonfifty Agreed. I never watched the tv show because the movie was so bad. A girlfriend insisted I give it a chance. She had taped it from the beginning. Remember the VCR? Ended up being a big fan of Buffy, Angel and the canceled way too soon Firefly.

@moondrake Did you watch Dollhouse?

@Targaryen I’ve watched all his stuff. I think Dollhouse was his weakest, but I enjoyed it when it wasn’t annoying me.

@moondrake Yeah I feel like Dollhouse was the leftover parts of the Firefly/Serenity storyline for River.

@moondrake I’m kind of surprised they didn’t pull Joss to work on the new Wheel of Time series for Amazon that was ordered. I wonder how he’d have handled it.

@moondrake @Targaryen I watched Dollhouse, a while ago, the beginning started out slow, but eventually, I liked it.

@moondrake @Targaryen I LOVED Dollhouse for what it could have been, with a different main actress, on a different network, in a different era, and possibly not a tv show. But I loved Dollhouse. Similar to the way I love Flash Gordon while finding the actors who played Flash and Dale endless voids of charisma.

@moondrake @mossygreen @Targaryen I don’t know if this is still available, but if you get the Dollhouse DVD, it has the series in the original order including the never shown intro chapter, before the fuckheads at Fox screwed it up. That could’ve been a great series. As it was, I loved the way Josh just pulled out the stops and blew everything up at the (forced) end.

@mfladd Anyone but Riley.

@mfladd I forgot Faith for a minute. I still say 5x5

@ACraigL @mfladd Aww, I liked Riley

@mehbee @mfladd I met Eliza Dushku at the aforementioned comic-con. She was sweet, particularly when responding to Q and A’s during a solo-panel interview.

@ACraigL @mfladd She always did seem nice

@JT954 OMG! Keep going. Season 1 was rough, but the next seasons – especially 3 – are quite good.

@baqui63

Don’t see the movie.

Aw c’mon, not even for PeeWee’s death scene?

@baqui63 He’s on the new Seal Team tv show.

@cf1 What’s crazy is that he is a third generation TV writer. His grandfather wrote for the Milton Berle show. Amazing he got to direct films like Avengers. Liked Cabin in the Woods, too. Fun trope-twist with some familiar faces in the cast.

@cf1 @cf1 My Joss Whedon collection, lol. I keep the movies in the movie books, but Joss had his own book for series.

@moondrake Boy, are you organized!

@cf1 It’s a necessity with a 5,000+ DVD collection.

@moondrake Are those Julian May books to the upper left?

@mfladd Yeah, I have a treasure trove of about 50 books on top of the DVD shelves waiting to be read. I read May’s Pleioscene series years ago but I don’t remember them, just remember enjoying them, so I bought the series to reread it.

@jpm37 Amazed it took someone this long to mention it. It’s great! My daughter and I sing the duet parts (she’s far better at it than I am).

My wife and I were fans of BTVS when it was originally on, but haven’t really gone back to it. However we do occasionally rewatch Once More With Feeling.
Too bad JW has kind of gone off the rails lately though.

@f00l My gut says no, but I’m willing to give it a shot. I think it will be looking for new audience, rather than appease the fans of the original.

@ACraigL

SMG could make the viewer “feel” all the anger, confusion, and vulnerability of being a teenager.

She was able to shoot right past the memes into an emotional and personal connection.

Even if the concept were re-worked, I think you would need some actors, esp in the Buffy role, who could do that.

Otherwise you just have some well-written post-modern-vampire currently relevant cleverness. And that would get old fast.

@ACraigL @f00l If I were doing it, I’d follow up from the end of the series where it was implied that all girls everywhere became endowed with the Slayer’s power. I’d try to get some of the old cast members to anchor the ensemble, and get several fresh new Slayer’s and Scooby gang members.

@f00l @moondrake Wait – was it all girls, or all potentials?
Regardless, I think the play is it’s 20 years after those events, surrounded around the current (featured?) slayer. At least that was the last thing I read.

@ACraigL @f00l I was left with the impression it was all girls, in keeping with Joss’ girl power thing. But with a new series it would be easier if it were just all potentials.

@eonfifty I liked it. I remember thinking what a cool mind-trick that was (on the audience). It’s like I Only Have Eyes for You when they flip the gender roles. Joss was all about that (flipping tropes to make things more interesting).

@ACraigL I don’t know. To me, it’s a particularly dark and depressing episode. In another thread, someone mentioned the movie Awakenings which was about comatose people who were almost miraculously awoken but only for a short time. They wanted to stay aware and in the world, but things didn’t work out, while in Normal Again, you have a character who may have chosen to go back to a delusion.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@eonfifty Part of that is her draw to darkness, right? The fact she chose facing struggle (with her friends) over a “normal” life was an obvious choice. And I think we, the audience, chose to believe the delusion was the normal life.

On a side note, “Dawn’s in trouble. Must be Tuesday.”

@ACraigL Maybe, but again, there is no definitive answer. There’s always going to be the possibility that the character is like Cypher in The Matrix though without the betrayal and killing.
I acknowledge your reference there, but it’s only vaugely familiar - I imagine it was spoken in the kitchen by Willow with Tara, Xander, Anya and Buffy present in a post-resurrection episode.

I was close. It was a post-resurrection episode, but the line was probably sung! By whom, I don’t remember. I haven’t seen the show in more than 10 years.
/giphy clock with wings not floating

@eonfifty X-men’s Cyclops and Buffy were almost cousins…in the strangest way possible. One of Whedon’s greatest contributions to the comic book world has to be his work on Astonishing X-Men, but what you may not know is that the comics almost included a Buffy The Vampire Slayer nod that would have blown people’s minds. Talking about the Buffy episode “Normal Again” – where Buffy begins to believe that she may not actually be a vampire slayer but rather just a patient in a nuthouse – the writer/director said that in the X-Men comics he almost had Cyclops (who shares a last name with Buffy) reference a cousin of his who was in a mental institution and believed that she was a demon hunter. He ended up not being able to find a good place to include the line in conversation, so it was eventually scrapped. But it’s still strange to think of what might have been…
From this article. There’s a whole series of these from different years of CCI.

@moondrake Your link is mangled, but I found the story. That’s fascinating.

@eonfifty @moondrake
Updated link for those interested:
https://www.cinemablend.com/new/10-Things-I-Learned-About-Joss-Whedon-Comic-Con-2013-38615.html

@eonfifty Sorry 'bout that.

@ACraigL Congrats!