@boygenius1991 …and this has what, to do with anything? Plenty of older houses out there, with problem rooms that are never as warm as the rest of the house. Putting in a radiant heater helps you even out the temperature in that room with the remainder of the house, without cranking the heat up higher on the whole house thermostat.
And I didn’t even have to be a “boy genius” to know that!
@RedOak If I’m out, it’s a Calvin Klein leather (fake, not real, though I do have a real one from Guess that I use for nice stuff) one. At home, it’s big plaid Moose Creek ones. This being applicable for this time of year. Changes in the other seasons.
@JT954 in the rest of the country we see the weather in Florida as well. Space heaters for the December - February stretch seem like a perfect match for some days.
@JT954 Florida here as well. I have two heaters. One I like to use to heat up all the cold tile in the bathroom before I shower on chilly days. The other one goes in my living room. I only paid $5 each and since I rarely use them, I’ve had them for years and don’t anticipate needing a new one any time soon.
Reading about it you apparently have to reset the thermostat if you are turning the temp up from where it is when it is on, but not when turning it down. Weird.
Agreed - we picked up an oil filled one years ago to pair with our generator. In a power it outage allows us to crank up the generator and maintain a bit of heat in the heat-sink effect of the oil after shut down… Likely a trivial benefit but it makes me feel better.
@RedOak Exactly how I use it. Oil filled to smooth out the radiant heat for the bed/bath, and a pellet stove in the main living space, all powered by a small inverter generator during power outages. I don’t usually set the oil filled heater on 1500w, but 600w or 900w. I think I got it for $40 at Lowes.
It should be illegal to advertise ‘high efficiency’ resistive heaters. There is no such beast. Your computer is more efficient because it does work AND heats. No space heater is any more or less efficient than any other.
@RedOak Well played. Where does this light go? I suppose a little could go out a window. But what little bit comes off as light will pretty quickly end up as heat.
@sl001 Actually-- high efficiency is technically correct, since resistive heaters are nearly 100% efficient at turning energy into heat (models that use fans or turn ‘red’ perhaps losing a fraction of a point). Of course, 100% energy efficient electric doesn’t actually mean 100% cost effecient, since electric might cost double/BTU than natural gas furnaces heating an entire house.
@caffeineguy – Agreed, all resistance heaters are 100% efficient, so it’s not technically dishonest. But, ‘high efficiency’, as it is liberally used by free standing 1500 watt heater manufacturers to sell their products is not intended to make that point.
Maybe it’s the “Adjustable, energy efficient thermostat” that’s the real the money-saver with this unit. I’ve been in the adding\removing heat trade for 40 years; first I’ve heard of such a marvelous ON\OFF switch.
@caffeineguy – Many free standing heaters have 600, 900, or 1500 watt settings (for example), but that is not the thermostat, that’s simply a selector switch. There are no inherent ‘energy efficient’ properties in the thermostat, it opens or closes a switch based on it’s temperature setting. In fact, a good thermostat and an ON\OFF switch should be all that’s needed. If a space needs an input of xx number of watts\BTU’s to be comfortable, that many watts have to be put into the space regardless of the selector switch setting.
@pfd314 I activily avoid the higher tech space heaters. I’ve got a plug in programable thermostat, it kicks on the heater when it’s getting too cold for myself and my tropical house plants (especially want to keep my coffee tree happy , kicks off when it reaches the selected temperature.
one day I’m going to actually make use of the programmable aspect. . . . .
Could the ad copy genius, or better yet the Irkster, kindly re-parse the following into something sensible please?:
“Speaking of which, space heaters aren’t really made to run at full blast all day long. If you find yourself needing to do that to stay warm, you’re probably not only taxing the heater, but using a shit-ton of electricity - again, costing more than you would with a space heater.”
@warpedrotors it doesn’t, actually.
saying that running a SPACE HEATER all day long costs more than you would with a SPACE HEATER makes no sense.
now if it said
“Speaking of which, space heaters aren’t really made to run at full blast all day long. If you find yourself needing to do that to stay warm, you’re probably not only taxing the heater, but using a shit-ton of electricity - again, costing more than you would if you had just turned up your furnace.” that would make sense.
Speaking of which, space heaters aren’t really made to run at full blast all day long. If you find yourself needing to do that to stay warm, you’re probably not only taxing the heater, but using a shit-ton of electricity - again, costing more than you would with a space heater.
If space heaters aren’t made to run all day long, and if you need that you should use a space heater?
@cengland0 Easily explained, grasshopper. Less facile minds do not grasp the difference between heating the space of your entire house with a “space heater” and one that only heats the space you are in, using a “space heater”.
One word, two meanings.
Bonus points for noting the only word the English language that not only has two different meanings, but also that are the /opposite/ of each other. It is its own antonym.
@mike808 I know of other English words that mean the opposite of each other:
Anxious - Should mean nervous but people use it as if it means eager. If someone says they are anxious to go to the event, I don’t know if that means they want to go or not.
Moot - Means discussion is up for debate but people usually use it to mean the discussion is over.
Literally - Means is it was written but people use it to show an exaggeration like “I literally died when I saw that happen.”
I have had micathermic heaters in my office for years, as the winters here in upstate NY can get pretty cold. I have also had several other types of space heaters. I must say that micathermic is the way to go. Dries out the air less than ceramic ones do, totally silent, and take up less space than the oil filed ones do. I paid $80 for my current heater, worth every penny.
Our second home has 3KW of solar and an oil-fired boiler; I actually got ripped off by the power company last year because I generated more power than consumed… ( I had ~700 kW-Hr ‘bought’ back at only ~$0.02/kW-Hr
This year, I’m running electric heat in the attached greenhouse, and an oil-filled heater in the main part of the house.
While there is an argument for running space heaters to heat smaller spaces than ones entire home… Running the electric heaters has the following atypical benefits to us:
Running enough heat to exceed or match my solar production will ensure I don’t ‘lose’ those 700kW-hr next year
The use of the electric heaters offsets the amount of fuel oil somewhat, making it less likely we’ll run out, particularly if the fuel oil guy can only get up the driveway every 2-3 months.
If we did actually run out of fuel oil, or if the boiler quit for one reason or another, the electric heaters might be enough to prevent the pipes from freezing
The space heater in the otherwise unheated greenhouse will keep our trees/plants from freezing; and if it warms up enough during the day, the tstat will shut it off
All that said, we have the regular thermostats set to 50F when nobody is around. When we arrive and fire up the woodstove to heat the house, but need to warm the bedroom up quickly, the Vornado heater I meh’d a few months ago works very well and is surprisingly quiet.
@samnrick Yes, we generate more in the summer, we also use more in the summer (with AirBnB guests and a window A/C uit) For grid-tied systems in New York state (and probably other places) there is an annual ‘settlement’ date, so it mostly averages out, except this year’s ‘settlement’ we ‘lost’ 700kWH.
I though molecules & matter 'n shit were really far apart in Space. So if you heat space, won’t stuff get even farther apart, so there’ll be, like, no space. Then how would you fit any heat into it? Analysis, Spock…
We have electrically heated mattress pads. They use far less power than a space heater because they only need to heat the space under the blankets. We have separate controls for our bed because my wife likes it much warmer than I do.
We have cheap space heaters for furnace failures.
I haven’t needed them for a couple decades, but I have some 250 watt heat lamps for working on a car in bitter conditions. I can’t use many tools with gloves on. I had appropriate clothing for working in subzero temperatures, so I only needed to keep my hands warm.
Lowest price ever offered at Amazon, according to camel, is $65.62 back in Nov 16. I would think as the spring/summer attire is starting to hit the shelves in retail stores, the price of heaters would drop along with the 2016 winter clothing. Maybe this is why Meh was able to buy these for ~$20.00.
I’m looking at the oil filled space heater I bought several years ago during an especially cold winter, which it is once again this year (So Cal). I usually use it only a few times a year in my bedroom. This year I’ve been using it since November and this month we’ve been keeping the rest of the house cooler because the gas bill was crazy high. Not used to winters like this. But we really need the rain, so it’s all good.
We have had one of these for over 7 years and it is still working well. It is the best space heater model and we have tried out a few. It is silent and efficient. For many years, we kept it in the bathroom during the winter months and never had to turn on the ceiling heater, which I am sure is not efficient. The room and the floor tile were always a comfortable, warm temp. It’s now living in a home office and boy is the bathroom cold. You cannot take it apart to clean the deflectors without breaking it (hence, the new one ordered) and our power toggle stuck a few years ago, but we can still control the heat temperature. We keep it on the lowest temp and it keeps the room toasty. I am so glad to find it at this price. Thank you, Meh!
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“Quiet” a heater- warming up to this deal !
Wait, a heater when it’s still winter? This is not the Meh we are accustomed to!
@djslack, it’s actually an air conditioner disguised as a heater.
Another seasonal deal! Where am I?
no thanks meh, I live in a house
@boygenius1991 …and this has what, to do with anything? Plenty of older houses out there, with problem rooms that are never as warm as the rest of the house. Putting in a radiant heater helps you even out the temperature in that room with the remainder of the house, without cranking the heat up higher on the whole house thermostat.
And I didn’t even have to be a “boy genius” to know that!
@Nivram These electric heaters are problematic for people with gas furnaces and small houses since gas is so much less expensive than electricity.
Warm!
Mmmm, hot dogs.
A silent heater? Could you sell one that tells jokes?
@daveinwarsh A mime heater, perhaps?
Kudos to the honest writeup, @jasontoon!
@narfcake isn’t that what we always expect… and get?
I have a space heater! I call it a jacket though.
@Mehsturbator mine’s fleece. Yours?
Green tea courtesy of Costco’s Japanese location works nicely as well.
@RedOak If I’m out, it’s a Calvin Klein leather (fake, not real, though I do have a real one from Guess that I use for nice stuff) one. At home, it’s big plaid Moose Creek ones. This being applicable for this time of year. Changes in the other seasons.
I’m really impressed that you can heat space now.
In space no one can hear you heat.
Doh! It is still 74F in the house in Austin, TX. I don’t need/want/huh?/OMG/sweat_bumps/hot_as_heck/what_happened_to_winter/</rant_off>
I guess that means I will pass.
P.S. We have the A/C on right now. I am serious.
Sad Face… Super Sad Face…
Three years ago even, I might have bitten. Today, it’s 75 degrees in January, and I don’t see 2018 being a lot colder.
Global war^H^H^H^H climate change explains how you get a warehouse of these for cheap. Heating is not a growth industry any more.
/giphy climate change
Heaters in Florida are useless.
:clicks meh:
@JT954 in the rest of the country we see the weather in Florida as well. Space heaters for the December - February stretch seem like a perfect match for some days.
@JT954 Florida is useless (I’m here, too. Meh)
@JT954 Florida here as well. I have two heaters. One I like to use to heat up all the cold tile in the bathroom before I shower on chilly days. The other one goes in my living room. I only paid $5 each and since I rarely use them, I’ve had them for years and don’t anticipate needing a new one any time soon.
Perfect for me in Chicago. I bought 3.
Reading about it you apparently have to reset the thermostat if you are turning the temp up from where it is when it is on, but not when turning it down. Weird.
Hey meh that’s just what the kids need in their massive snow fort out back. Thanks!!
It was 62 degrees in Boston today. I’d definitely buy this if it were an air conditioner.
This is >only< 1500 watts? What I mean is most heaters can be set for 1500, then 750 then something lower like 600 watts. I prefer oil filled ones.
@radi0j0hn There’s a toggle switch that shows “I” and “II”. Presumably, that’s allows two power settings, 750 watts and 1500 watts.
@radi0j0hn
Agreed - we picked up an oil filled one years ago to pair with our generator. In a power it outage allows us to crank up the generator and maintain a bit of heat in the heat-sink effect of the oil after shut down… Likely a trivial benefit but it makes me feel better.
@RedOak Exactly how I use it. Oil filled to smooth out the radiant heat for the bed/bath, and a pellet stove in the main living space, all powered by a small inverter generator during power outages. I don’t usually set the oil filled heater on 1500w, but 600w or 900w. I think I got it for $40 at Lowes.
@KenC and zero watts, so three power settings total. It’s an additional feature.
It should be illegal to advertise ‘high efficiency’ resistive heaters. There is no such beast. Your computer is more efficient because it does work AND heats. No space heater is any more or less efficient than any other.
@sl001 actually, electric heaters whose heating elements turn red are less efficient in that some of their energy is consumed producing light.
@RedOak Well played. Where does this light go? I suppose a little could go out a window. But what little bit comes off as light will pretty quickly end up as heat.
@sl001 Actually-- high efficiency is technically correct, since resistive heaters are nearly 100% efficient at turning energy into heat (models that use fans or turn ‘red’ perhaps losing a fraction of a point). Of course, 100% energy efficient electric doesn’t actually mean 100% cost effecient, since electric might cost double/BTU than natural gas furnaces heating an entire house.
@caffeineguy – Agreed, all resistance heaters are 100% efficient, so it’s not technically dishonest. But, ‘high efficiency’, as it is liberally used by free standing 1500 watt heater manufacturers to sell their products is not intended to make that point.
Maybe it’s the “Adjustable, energy efficient thermostat” that’s the real the money-saver with this unit. I’ve been in the adding\removing heat trade for 40 years; first I’ve heard of such a marvelous ON\OFF switch.
@krmugn52 It is quite marvelous actually-- It saves a bunch of energy on one position, and consumes a bunch in the other.
@caffeineguy – Many free standing heaters have 600, 900, or 1500 watt settings (for example), but that is not the thermostat, that’s simply a selector switch. There are no inherent ‘energy efficient’ properties in the thermostat, it opens or closes a switch based on it’s temperature setting. In fact, a good thermostat and an ON\OFF switch should be all that’s needed. If a space needs an input of xx number of watts\BTU’s to be comfortable, that many watts have to be put into the space regardless of the selector switch setting.
@krmugn52 I know that! My joke was that is uses 0 watts in one position, and 1500 in the other! Marvelous.
Getting your wife a “silent heater” is not how to tell her you just farted under the blankets. Don’t ask how I know this.
This is excellent for making grilled cheese.
I’m in out of the cold, tainted-altruistic-yak
Amazon has this for $65 around Thanksgiving. http://camelcamelcamel.com/Bionaire-Silent-Micathermic-Console-Heater/product/B00Z96LDAQ
I need a space heater, but no digital thermostat…Meh.
@pfd314 I activily avoid the higher tech space heaters. I’ve got a plug in programable thermostat, it kicks on the heater when it’s getting too cold for myself and my tropical house plants (especially want to keep my coffee tree happy
, kicks off when it reaches the selected temperature.
one day I’m going to actually make use of the programmable aspect. . . . .
We got 3 of these from Costco (in light grey) years ago and love them. They work really well, and the dogs love them.
Strongly recommended.
Side note, a 13 gallon garbage bag is perfect for covering it in storage over the summer.
@excarnate I as well, still going strong.
Could the ad copy genius, or better yet the Irkster, kindly re-parse the following into something sensible please?:
“Speaking of which, space heaters aren’t really made to run at full blast all day long. If you find yourself needing to do that to stay warm, you’re probably not only taxing the heater, but using a shit-ton of electricity - again, costing more than you would with a space heater.”
@sparkyfarad But it already makes sense.
@warpedrotors it doesn’t, actually.
saying that running a SPACE HEATER all day long costs more than you would with a SPACE HEATER makes no sense.
now if it said
“Speaking of which, space heaters aren’t really made to run at full blast all day long. If you find yourself needing to do that to stay warm, you’re probably not only taxing the heater, but using a shit-ton of electricity - again, costing more than you would if you had just turned up your furnace.”
that would make sense.
Something in the writeup is quirky:
If space heaters aren’t made to run all day long, and if you need that you should use a space heater?
@cengland0 Easily explained, grasshopper. Less facile minds do not grasp the difference between heating the space of your entire house with a “space heater” and one that only heats the space you are in, using a “space heater”.
One word, two meanings.
Bonus points for noting the only word the English language that not only has two different meanings, but also that are the /opposite/ of each other. It is its own antonym.
@mike808 I know of other English words that mean the opposite of each other:
Anxious - Should mean nervous but people use it as if it means eager. If someone says they are anxious to go to the event, I don’t know if that means they want to go or not.
Moot - Means discussion is up for debate but people usually use it to mean the discussion is over.
Literally - Means is it was written but people use it to show an exaggeration like “I literally died when I saw that happen.”
@cengland0 I’m referring to Webster’s meaning, not misuse of words by people who revel in their own ignorance.
Its a verb: to cleave. Meaning both to come together and to separate from.
I have had micathermic heaters in my office for years, as the winters here in upstate NY can get pretty cold. I have also had several other types of space heaters. I must say that micathermic is the way to go. Dries out the air less than ceramic ones do, totally silent, and take up less space than the oil filed ones do. I paid $80 for my current heater, worth every penny.
Our second home has 3KW of solar and an oil-fired boiler; I actually got ripped off by the power company last year because I generated more power than consumed… ( I had ~700 kW-Hr ‘bought’ back at only ~$0.02/kW-Hr
This year, I’m running electric heat in the attached greenhouse, and an oil-filled heater in the main part of the house.
While there is an argument for running space heaters to heat smaller spaces than ones entire home… Running the electric heaters has the following atypical benefits to us:
All that said, we have the regular thermostats set to 50F when nobody is around. When we arrive and fire up the woodstove to heat the house, but need to warm the bedroom up quickly, the Vornado heater I meh’d a few months ago works very well and is surprisingly quiet.
@caffeineguy I am guessing when you have excess solar is in the summer. Not sure how this would help you when it’s cold.
@samnrick Yes, we generate more in the summer, we also use more in the summer (with AirBnB guests and a window A/C uit) For grid-tied systems in New York state (and probably other places) there is an annual ‘settlement’ date, so it mostly averages out, except this year’s ‘settlement’ we ‘lost’ 700kWH.
I though molecules & matter 'n shit were really far apart in Space. So if you heat space, won’t stuff get even farther apart, so there’ll be, like, no space. Then how would you fit any heat into it? Analysis, Spock…
Alarming (2006) safety problem with power switch reported on Amazon with this model:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R33450L107K5RR/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00Z96LDAQ#R33450L107K5RR
@Thinkerer I would hope in 10+ years that they fixed it.
@RiotDemon
Maybe. It appears to be a good heater otherwise - but caveat emptor here.
@RiotDemon Except all the defective ones probably ended up on some deal-a-day discount site…
Was just about to go out and buy something like this. In for one to warm up the garage/basement when needed.
Down here in Texas we’ve already had our one week of winter… oh well, until next year!
Today I learned space heaters can be more costly than space heaters.
I’ll just ask Beyoncé to move in with me instead.
/giphy dreadful-normal-knife
Not going to lie. I Mehed this deal simply because you blew the opportunity to do an Obelisk joke from 2001, since it’s a Spaaaaaaaaace heater.
@llabak Were you expecting some sort of fanfare from the common man for that lame joke?
@mike808 i would have appreciated that, yes
@llabak Here you go.
We have electrically heated mattress pads. They use far less power than a space heater because they only need to heat the space under the blankets. We have separate controls for our bed because my wife likes it much warmer than I do.
We have cheap space heaters for furnace failures.
I haven’t needed them for a couple decades, but I have some 250 watt heat lamps for working on a car in bitter conditions. I can’t use many tools with gloves on. I had appropriate clothing for working in subzero temperatures, so I only needed to keep my hands warm.
Lowest price ever offered at Amazon, according to camel, is $65.62 back in Nov 16. I would think as the spring/summer attire is starting to hit the shelves in retail stores, the price of heaters would drop along with the 2016 winter clothing. Maybe this is why Meh was able to buy these for ~$20.00.
I’m looking at the oil filled space heater I bought several years ago during an especially cold winter, which it is once again this year (So Cal). I usually use it only a few times a year in my bedroom. This year I’ve been using it since November and this month we’ve been keeping the rest of the house cooler because the gas bill was crazy high. Not used to winters like this. But we really need the rain, so it’s all good.
We have had one of these for over 7 years and it is still working well. It is the best space heater model and we have tried out a few. It is silent and efficient. For many years, we kept it in the bathroom during the winter months and never had to turn on the ceiling heater, which I am sure is not efficient. The room and the floor tile were always a comfortable, warm temp. It’s now living in a home office and boy is the bathroom cold. You cannot take it apart to clean the deflectors without breaking it (hence, the new one ordered) and our power toggle stuck a few years ago, but we can still control the heat temperature. We keep it on the lowest temp and it keeps the room toasty. I am so glad to find it at this price. Thank you, Meh!
Read the comments of the video, WTF?!
how much were they offering this for?
Heater received today. Unfortunately, the manual indicates only a one year warranty as opposed to the 5 stated here.
Received my heater too. Unfortunately the screws that are supposed to be used to attach the feet are missing.