@kittykat9180@mike808 I’m interested in trying a bidet. But(t) I currently also use wipes and tp. TP goes in the toilet, all wipes go in the trash (I don’t care if they say “safe to flush” or “only one per flush”).
@kittykat9180@mehvid1@mike808 bidets are totally worth it! You can also dry off with tp at the end. I save so much tp and when the pandemic hit, I didn’t freak out that I couldn’t buy any.
@kittykat9180@mike808 After the plumber came to our house and removed about a million of those wipes (we never used them, had to be previous tenants) I realized how they do not break down at all.
@kittykat9180@mike808 Wow, that got polarized fast. In the interests of wading into the mud slinging (is… is that mud?) and playing devil’s advocate, I’m surprised nobody’s pointed out that you also don’t step into the shower, wipe yourself with a dry cloth, and step back out. Personally, I’ve used bidets in other countries and loved the fact that I’ve never been so clean, but also been too lazy/stingy to ever install one.
@kittykat9180 I mean, you don’t just spray it and then get up and walk away, you (well I, anyway) still wipe after spraying.
The TP comes away wet but clean.
One or two wipes to dry off and done.
@AbdiViklas
They’re easy enough to install yourself.
Not sure if these come with a small roll of teflon tape (a white stretchy thin non-sticky tape you wrap the threaded end beforehand to seal the connection). If not, get a roll. $2-3 at hardware /Ace /HD /Lowe’s /Walmart /Target.
Took maybe 30 minutes. Definitely under an hour. Having a crescent wrench helps, but no idea what the size you need are. However, slip joint pliers will do. Just don’t crush the plastic bits or scratch up the metal bits too badly. You can use a washcloth in the jaws of the pliers to help with that. You just need it tight enough to not leak is all.
/image slip joint pliers
You want me to spray my tender spots with COLD water? No one should hear the noises I would make then—those butt cleaning sounds would be anything but clean.
@RiotDemon From the sound of it, you don’t draw your water from a deep well in rural northern New England…and my comment was about THIS bidet attachment, not all bidets.
@Ambiverbal@RiotDemon I draw my water from a deep well in northern Oregon. The small amount of water that the bidet uses per-use comes from the water already in the pipes inside my home (IOW, room temperature). Refreshing, and certainly not anything that would discourage use for any but the most sensitive individuals.
I can’t believe it’s 50/50. Do you these dirty butt people just really love their dirty TP? And yes, wipes or silk towels or whatever, if you don’t use a bidet every time, you’re a filthy ape with a filthy butt. Savages.
@mehvid1 oh, my kids. I have three under the age of four. Navigating avoidance of toilet paper is enough without adding a water fountain to the toilet, thanks.
@jitc@mehvid1@RiotDemon So why would you have separate bidets, separate from the toilet? That doesn’t make any sense to me. But then again pretty obviously I know very little about bidets.
@Kidsandliz@mehvid1@RiotDemon probably because the way a traditional bidet was made, were it made to be cross functional with the same bowl as a toilet, you’d just be cleaning your behind with dirty toilet water.
@jitc@Kidsandliz the original bidet was just a separate wash basin from the chamber pot. The first pictures you linked are a bidet that you fill and then use your hands to wash versus the one the kid is drinking from is meant to spray your butt/genitals. In countries that adopted the bidet from the get go, they usually use separate ones still. I sold plumbing stuff for a long time and I only sold one separate bidet. (Granted, I didn’t deal with high end homes most of the time). The ones that attach to the toilet are sometimes referred to as washlets instead of bidets. In the us since people are finally coming around to bidets, they usually don’t have room for a separate one so the attachment ones have blown up in popularity.
@RiotDemon Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. In all the years I worked abroad nowhere that I lived had them either so I didn’t even know they existed until fairly recently.
I ordered these last time. I lived in Japan for years and experienced the high-end Japanese toilet seats. These are basic compared to those. They don’t heat the water or the seat. They don’t massage. They don’t blow dry. But they are a step in the right direction.
I would complain a bit that the adjustability of the water flow is not that great. They are kind of off or on. “On” is pretty intense. “Off” is off. The dial is more of just an on-off valve. If you are very patient and you very, very slowly turn the dial, you can get an in-between, but it is not easy.
They do leave a bit of overspray on the seat and between the seat and toilet, which is annoying.
But for this price, it is not bad and a step up from smearing feces on your rear.
Ive never used one personally so I don’t know the difference but it just seems kinda gross (to me) to spray yourself with toilet water. I wouldn’t wash my hands in the toilet so why would I want to was my ass.
@Star2236 the water is not toilet water, it comes from your main house pipes. Technically the water inside your toilet tank is safe to drink as long as you don’t put tablets in it.
@RiotDemon@Star2236 Good thing it is safe to drink as over the years I have had some cats who preferentially drink from the toilet (never mind fresh water daily in bowls, a pet fountain…).
WTF is wrong with you tonight, Meh?
@shahnm They have a lot of Taco Bell to clean up.
I use wet wipes. I fail to see how simply spraying your anus will clean it fully.
@kittykat9180 All those wipes you flush don’t just magically disappear from the rivers your sewer system dumps into.
It’s like a shower and drying off. Uses less toiletpaper and less strain on your local sewer system. The world is not made of unlimited resources.
@kittykat9180 @mike808 Finally found a picture of mike808 on the internet…
@mike808, the wipes break down.
Also, with a shower I scrub and use soap. I don’t just spray myself with water and call it good.
Enititlement apologists are why the rest of the world can’t have nice things.
@kittykat9180
People Who Flush Personal Wipes Down the Drain Are Destroying America’s Sewers
Stop it. Stop flushing wet wipes.
Bloomberg
@kittykat9180 @mike808 I’m interested in trying a bidet. But(t) I currently also use wipes and tp. TP goes in the toilet, all wipes go in the trash (I don’t care if they say “safe to flush” or “only one per flush”).
@kittykat9180 @mehvid1 @mike808 bidets are totally worth it! You can also dry off with tp at the end. I save so much tp and when the pandemic hit, I didn’t freak out that I couldn’t buy any.
@kittykat9180 @mehvid1 @RiotDemon
^^^ THIS ^^^
@kittykat9180 @mike808 After the plumber came to our house and removed about a million of those wipes (we never used them, had to be previous tenants) I realized how they do not break down at all.
@kittykat9180 @mike808 Wow, that got polarized fast. In the interests of wading into the mud slinging (is… is that mud?) and playing devil’s advocate, I’m surprised nobody’s pointed out that you also don’t step into the shower, wipe yourself with a dry cloth, and step back out. Personally, I’ve used bidets in other countries and loved the fact that I’ve never been so clean, but also been too lazy/stingy to ever install one.
@kittykat9180 I mean, you don’t just spray it and then get up and walk away, you (well I, anyway) still wipe after spraying.
The TP comes away wet but clean.
One or two wipes to dry off and done.
@AbdiViklas
They’re easy enough to install yourself.
Not sure if these come with a small roll of teflon tape (a white stretchy thin non-sticky tape you wrap the threaded end beforehand to seal the connection). If not, get a roll. $2-3 at hardware /Ace /HD /Lowe’s /Walmart /Target.
Took maybe 30 minutes. Definitely under an hour. Having a crescent wrench helps, but no idea what the size you need are. However, slip joint pliers will do. Just don’t crush the plastic bits or scratch up the metal bits too badly. You can use a washcloth in the jaws of the pliers to help with that. You just need it tight enough to not leak is all.
/image slip joint pliers
@AbdiViklas @mike808 if it comes with rubber seals, don’t use tape.
Ummm… Ba - day. Just think of it as Australian.
@JanaS
Bed-ayyy.
Like where the Fonz took yo mama.
/image Fonzie ayyy!
I know Japanese are germaphobes. Covid-19 has shows how Japan is still ahead of everyone. And yes, they have been using bidets for many years.
@hchavers They also have squat toilets that 80% of Americans could never use or stand up from.
You want me to spray my tender spots with COLD water? No one should hear the noises I would make then—those butt cleaning sounds would be anything but clean.
@Ambiverbal the water in your house pipes usually isn’t that cold. Also, you can get heated bidets.
@RiotDemon From the sound of it, you don’t draw your water from a deep well in rural northern New England…and my comment was about THIS bidet attachment, not all bidets.
@Ambiverbal @RiotDemon I draw my water from a deep well in northern Oregon. The small amount of water that the bidet uses per-use comes from the water already in the pipes inside my home (IOW, room temperature). Refreshing, and certainly not anything that would discourage use for any but the most sensitive individuals.
Yippee ki-yay, a bid-yay!
Here’s a review:
@PocketBrain omg, he’s hilarious! Here’s a link to his channel because that was a repost and I needed to see more from him:
https://www.youtube.com/c/GingerBilly
I can’t believe it’s 50/50. Do you these dirty butt people just really love their dirty TP? And yes, wipes or silk towels or whatever, if you don’t use a bidet every time, you’re a filthy ape with a filthy butt. Savages.
“grizzled” butthole?
Toddlers.
@jitc
To whom dost thou refer?
@mehvid1 oh, my kids. I have three under the age of four. Navigating avoidance of toilet paper is enough without adding a water fountain to the toilet, thanks.
@jitc @mehvid1
Probably dangerous to show these photos to your kids if you buy one (some appear to be non-USA style toilets).
@jitc @Kidsandliz @mehvid1 those aren’t “non usa style toilets” they are separate bidets.
@jitc @mehvid1 @RiotDemon So why would you have separate bidets, separate from the toilet? That doesn’t make any sense to me. But then again pretty obviously I know very little about bidets.
@Kidsandliz @mehvid1 @RiotDemon probably because the way a traditional bidet was made, were it made to be cross functional with the same bowl as a toilet, you’d just be cleaning your behind with dirty toilet water.
@jitc @Kidsandliz the original bidet was just a separate wash basin from the chamber pot. The first pictures you linked are a bidet that you fill and then use your hands to wash versus the one the kid is drinking from is meant to spray your butt/genitals. In countries that adopted the bidet from the get go, they usually use separate ones still. I sold plumbing stuff for a long time and I only sold one separate bidet. (Granted, I didn’t deal with high end homes most of the time). The ones that attach to the toilet are sometimes referred to as washlets instead of bidets. In the us since people are finally coming around to bidets, they usually don’t have room for a separate one so the attachment ones have blown up in popularity.
@RiotDemon Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. In all the years I worked abroad nowhere that I lived had them either so I didn’t even know they existed until fairly recently.
Once you wash your crack you’ll never go back.
a bidet is a bidet. a plastic add on to a toilet is not a bidet, it is a water fountain.
I’ve heard the case for bidets made this way: if you step in dog crap, would you clean your shoe with dry paper, or with a hose?
As for wipes, plumbers call them “job security.”
I ordered these last time. I lived in Japan for years and experienced the high-end Japanese toilet seats. These are basic compared to those. They don’t heat the water or the seat. They don’t massage. They don’t blow dry. But they are a step in the right direction.
I would complain a bit that the adjustability of the water flow is not that great. They are kind of off or on. “On” is pretty intense. “Off” is off. The dial is more of just an on-off valve. If you are very patient and you very, very slowly turn the dial, you can get an in-between, but it is not easy.
They do leave a bit of overspray on the seat and between the seat and toilet, which is annoying.
But for this price, it is not bad and a step up from smearing feces on your rear.
Ive never used one personally so I don’t know the difference but it just seems kinda gross (to me) to spray yourself with toilet water. I wouldn’t wash my hands in the toilet so why would I want to was my ass.
@Star2236 the water is not toilet water, it comes from your main house pipes. Technically the water inside your toilet tank is safe to drink as long as you don’t put tablets in it.
@RiotDemon @Star2236 Good thing it is safe to drink as over the years I have had some cats who preferentially drink from the toilet (never mind fresh water daily in bowls, a pet fountain…).