I know that most probably aren’t ACTUALLY interested and I’m looking forward to the clever titles to follow to be sure. BUT they’re all fantastic reads! Azkaban is one of my favorites but I do live them all! Order of the Phoenix is the hardest read because Umbridge is a disgusting human but still great literature. Yes…I’m a silly nerdy Potterhead.
I think you have the title wrong, Meh. It’s actually Harry Potter and the Small Cauldron Filled With Numerous Larger Cauldrons… Magic and what not, yea?
Rowling is an incredibly gifted writer of genre fiction. And she prob “means well”, as the saying goes.
Unfortunately, her critical thinking skills and her selections of “supposed facts” re complex social issues and issues of personal identity are not at the same level.
Unfortunately, her critical thinking skills and her selections of “supposed facts” re complex social issues and issues of personal identity are not at the same level.
Huh. I guess she has that in common with literally every human being I have ever met except myself.
Plenty of cogent and well written responses were published to her essay immediately after she pushed it out to the public.
Re thinking etc and
Not at the same level
She’s not, and had never been, any sort of theorist; she has publicly admitted this herself, in the distant past.
I wish she had been more careful about her thinking and arguments re this issue before she decided to step into it. She wasn’t.
Since she is a global figure who was so widely seen as a universal champion for all the bullied and neglected kids and grownup kids of the world, the response to her essay is not surprising.
However, on another implied topic:
the innate and automatic assumption (within each of us) of our own “personal intellectually superiority” is likely a built-in erroneous human brain function, and is a lifelong problem for every person.
As is the assumption that each of us understands reality (which is so often just a current prevailing social and personal construct)
As is the assumption that each of us understands logic
(Which is always problematic on complex social issues; and is even often problematic re tightly defined and rigorous mathematical issues)
This ongoing likelihood of unnoticed (possibly v large) error/bias is constant, and is a potential trip-up for everyone.
We can all be fools; and we can all make fools of ourselves.
@f00l I decided long ago that I would try to evaluate books/music/art/architecture/whatever on their own merits separate from any assholery of the authors. A good thing or I would be missing about 2/3rds of my library. I don’t think it’s because authors are worse than other professions, but rather that a writer, given a platform and a few million adoring followers, will write stuff. And more stuff, and more stuff. And since they usually don’t have editors for non-book stuff, it goes out unfiltered and unadorned. It really gives me an appreciation for their book editors.
Given that I know so little of their lives, for all I know (nothing, mostly) Shakespeare, Jane Austen, Douglas Adams, Tolkien, John Le Carre, Hilary Mantel, Neil Gaiman, and a host of other excellent writers might be, or might have been, compleat assholes.
I’m happy, so far, to read and love their works.
When might I start boycotting someone creative? I suppose there is a line.
For starters, are they monsters? Or are they apparently obvious liars/hypocrites about their lives and the relation their life choices have to their works?
I admit to very little interest any longer, in seeing a Woody Allen film.
I made that choice not when Allen’s/Farrow’s daughter Dylan Farrow’s accusations went public; but rather, prior to that, when it became public news that Allen, who had a then-current and long-standing and intimate relationship with Mia Farrow (and had children with her),
was also having a simultaneous covert sexual relationship with Soon Yi Previn, an older, but still possibly still minor, adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn. (there was then uncertainty about the actual date and year of Soon Yi’s birth)
That event crossed my boundary.
I suppose there are other creatives whose conduct might disturb me to that degree. I don’t campaign about it tho.
Within my little list of a few among the many writers I like, there are a whole buncha Brits. Didn’t noticed until now.
I like stateside writers also.
Between notes, he had contemplated means of destroying Myrna Minkoff. His most promising scheme had involved getting a book on munitions from the library, constructing a bomb, and mailing it in plain paper to Myrna. Then he remembered that his library card had been revoked.
@phendrick
This is the book that never ends
its verse goes on and on my friends
Some people started reading it, not knowing what it was.
And, they’ll continue reading it forever, just because
This is the book that never ends…
Harry Potter and the Order of Meh
Harry Potter and the Time-Stamped Irk Tattoos
Harry Potter and the Toppled Goat Icons
Harry Potter and the Dismay of Captchas
Harry Potter and the Loudness of Orange Things
Harry Potter and the Wisdom of Mediocrebot
I guess I am in the minority with only 2 other posts like mine. I don’t like those books and so don’t read them. Don’t like the movie either (saw part of one and turned it off).
Hairy Squatter and the Porcelain Throne
Candelabra of what?! Oh, that’s an a not an e.
Harry Butt-head and Beavis on FIRE, FIRE, FIRE, FIRE, FIRE, FIRE
I know that most probably aren’t ACTUALLY interested and I’m looking forward to the clever titles to follow to be sure. BUT they’re all fantastic reads! Azkaban is one of my favorites but I do live them all! Order of the Phoenix is the hardest read because Umbridge is a disgusting human but still great literature. Yes…I’m a silly nerdy Potterhead.
@sillyheathen yes, Umbridge really infuriates me in a way few other storybook villains could.
I think you have the title wrong, Meh. It’s actually Harry Potter and the Small Cauldron Filled With Numerous Larger Cauldrons… Magic and what not, yea?
@shahnm Harry Potter and the Cauldron of TARDIS
Harry Potter and the Transphobic Author
Nobody’s perfect. Sadly.
@brennyn Just posted this in the product thread
Here is Rowling’s explanation if anybody is interested in actually hearing both sides of the story: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/
@steamwolf Thank you. That was worth reading.
@steamwolf Really worth the read. Thank you.
@steamwolf
@steamwolf
Rowling is an incredibly gifted writer of genre fiction. And she prob “means well”, as the saying goes.
Unfortunately, her critical thinking skills and her selections of “supposed facts” re complex social issues and issues of personal identity are not at the same level.
I just realized that I never read her side of the debate. Thank you @steamwolf… I’m on her side now.
@f00l @steamwolf
Huh. I guess she has that in common with literally every human being I have ever met except myself.
@Limewater
Plenty of cogent and well written responses were published to her essay immediately after she pushed it out to the public.
Re thinking etc and
She’s not, and had never been, any sort of theorist; she has publicly admitted this herself, in the distant past.
I wish she had been more careful about her thinking and arguments re this issue before she decided to step into it. She wasn’t.
Since she is a global figure who was so widely seen as a universal champion for all the bullied and neglected kids and grownup kids of the world, the response to her essay is not surprising.
However, on another implied topic:
the innate and automatic assumption (within each of us) of our own “personal intellectually superiority” is likely a built-in erroneous human brain function, and is a lifelong problem for every person.
As is the assumption that each of us understands reality (which is so often just a current prevailing social and personal construct)
As is the assumption that each of us understands logic
(Which is always problematic on complex social issues; and is even often problematic re tightly defined and rigorous mathematical issues)
This ongoing likelihood of unnoticed (possibly v large) error/bias is constant, and is a potential trip-up for everyone.
We can all be fools; and we can all make fools of ourselves.
Esp true for moi
/giphy “logic error”
@f00l I decided long ago that I would try to evaluate books/music/art/architecture/whatever on their own merits separate from any assholery of the authors. A good thing or I would be missing about 2/3rds of my library. I don’t think it’s because authors are worse than other professions, but rather that a writer, given a platform and a few million adoring followers, will write stuff. And more stuff, and more stuff. And since they usually don’t have editors for non-book stuff, it goes out unfiltered and unadorned. It really gives me an appreciation for their book editors.
@rockblossom
Yes. Exactly.
Given that I know so little of their lives, for all I know (nothing, mostly) Shakespeare, Jane Austen, Douglas Adams, Tolkien, John Le Carre, Hilary Mantel, Neil Gaiman, and a host of other excellent writers might be, or might have been, compleat assholes.
I’m happy, so far, to read and love their works.
When might I start boycotting someone creative? I suppose there is a line.
For starters, are they monsters? Or are they apparently obvious liars/hypocrites about their lives and the relation their life choices have to their works?
I admit to very little interest any longer, in seeing a Woody Allen film.
I made that choice not when Allen’s/Farrow’s daughter Dylan Farrow’s accusations went public; but rather, prior to that, when it became public news that Allen, who had a then-current and long-standing and intimate relationship with Mia Farrow (and had children with her),
was also having a simultaneous covert sexual relationship with Soon Yi Previn, an older, but still possibly still minor, adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn. (there was then uncertainty about the actual date and year of Soon Yi’s birth)
That event crossed my boundary.
I suppose there are other creatives whose conduct might disturb me to that degree. I don’t campaign about it tho.
@haydesigner @steamwolf If you’re on the fence this video is actually kind of a fun take on it.
@rockblossom
Within my little list of a few among the many writers I like, there are a whole buncha Brits. Didn’t noticed until now.
I like stateside writers also.
A Confederacy of Dunces
John Kennedy Toole
The Book That Must Not Be Named.
@phendrick
This is the book that never ends
its verse goes on and on my friends
Some people started reading it, not knowing what it was.
And, they’ll continue reading it forever, just because
This is the book that never ends…
Harry Potter Up in Smoke
@2many2no I thought was “Harry Pothead and the chambered bong”.
Never read a HP book. The movies put me to sleep so I never caught the bug.
@goldnectar as one of my favorite threadless shirts says
I did not read HP books.
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Hot Cheese
Maybe I am just a product of my time, but that scroll with pictures definitely has at least one Van Halen logo on it, right.
None…
Harry Potter and the Order of Meh
Harry Potter and the Time-Stamped Irk Tattoos
Harry Potter and the Toppled Goat Icons
Harry Potter and the Dismay of Captchas
Harry Potter and the Loudness of Orange Things
Harry Potter and the Wisdom of Mediocrebot
I installed CAPTCHA to save my fellow robots from wasting money on this crap.
Harry Potter and the Uneventful Summer
There’s a hundred and four days of summer vacation…
Harry Potter and the Mason Jar of Flatulence.
Harry Potter and the Mourned Drop of Pasta.
I guess I am in the minority with only 2 other posts like mine. I don’t like those books and so don’t read them. Don’t like the movie either (saw part of one and turned it off).
Words of Gay (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harry Potter)