@cengland0 Honestly, this seems like a good idea from several perspectives. While I generally respect your opinion (and certainly greatly respect your person), I deem your dismissal reactionary and Luddite.
@applsauce33 heh, the company (guy) actually has been working on coffee appliances for a bit. He built a roaster that does pretty well in the coffee geek circles, but it appears that this coffee maker hasn’t been as successful.
@pyip001 I was considering this until I remembered how unsavory my interactions with the guy were when I was trying to get support for the coffee roaster I bought from him that caught fire. Pass.
GFD! I just spent $100 on a Keurig 2.0 and now this? Are we really just a bunch of coffee junkies? I swear, I will stop drinking coffee now, right after my meeting tomorrow morning where I need to be alert and sh@t so I can keep my job…
@formfeed Right? It doesn’t depend on a remote back-end service and apparently you can use regular “supermarket” coffee, just like poor people do. It’s like they’re not even trying!
Why does no one make a countertop coffee machine you could schedule for multiple days, put enough water and beans and it just brews without a daily ingredient refill?
@hafner The Breville YouBrew I got here awhile back holds 12 cups of water and a half pound of beans, so it’s usually good for 3 or 4 days before needing anything refilled.
@grimgrin This. The YouBrew is amazing, and we still use ours from that same sale to this day without any issues. I really wish they’d stuck with the basic premise of the model we have instead of screwing around with whatever the successor model turned out to be with knobs and everything. I want this machine, updated. That’s all.
@narfcake It was a very long comment and I almost stopped reading it but since you said it was a good read, I continued. Glad I did. Good ending to the story.
This means it’s probably easy to hack and integrate with home automation. It also means it’s probably easy to hack and be yet another thing you have to work about being taken over by Russia, Eastern Europe, or China if you leave everything open.
Pour over? More coffee styles I haven’t heard of. I tried cold brew last weekend because I keep hearing people talk about it- tasted just like normal coffee to me.
I have the dumb version of this machine, no fancy Bluetooth connectivity. Makes great coffee by heating the entire amount of water to near boiling before brewing. Does take awhile, so I start by filling the reservoir & starting the machine, then grind the beans and get the filter ready. Carafe keeps it hot for hours. Paid $165 for mine last year, so this is a comparative bargain, if the fancy Bluetooth stuff works.
@alacrity tie it to your phone’s alarm with ifttt… Start it when your alarm goes off, you get one snooze then by the time you drag yourself into the kitchen it’s coffee time.
Or if you’re a slow dragger, tie it to turning off your alarm.
@djslack after an unfortunate incident involving a rubber sheet and a Bullwinkle mask, i do not allow a cell phine in the bedroom. Things get misconstrued when taken out if context. And the last thinf i’m capable of at 4 am is fealing with an app.
@alacrity When you use your phone to start a brew, the last step is to “brew now” or “brew later.” If you choose “later” you can set a brew time for any time in the next 24 hours and it will automatically start then.
I bought one of these for $169 back in February (which was a very good price at the time) and have been happy with it. If you use it without your smart phone, it works very much like (and produces coffee as good as) the Moccamaster. With the smart phone, you can tweak temperature and dwell time if you care about that kind of thing. It’s an open question whether it’ll be as durable as the Teknivorm products have been, but so far it feels like a small step up in quality at just over half the price. At just under a third the price, I’d like it even better.
It is very tall, so measure carefully if you need it to fit under a cabinet.
@petard I’m a caffeine addict, and my Technivorm Moccamaster is >12 years old. Hooked it to a programmable Bluetooth plug and yell “Alexa start coffee” heaven!
@cocoabrioche Yeah, the Moccamaster is a great one. The only thing I ever thought it lacked was ability to change temperature. But it’s perfectly reasonable to expect that if you keep it descaled, it will outlive you. The Behmor brewers do not feel likely to be quite as durable.
@narfcake I have two now and I need to replace the rubber gasket on the small one. What’s the most affordable way to do that? I checked eBay and it seemed awfully pricy for what it is.
I just recently purchased a coffee pot. It’s a Mr. Coffee with a 12-cup carafe (which is really 5 since I use a 12oz mug). It has a timer so you can have coffee ready for you when you wake up. It was $20 and I grabbed it off the shelf at the grocery store. How’s the coffee taste? IDGAF, it’s brown energy juice that makes me less tired.
tl;dr - just go to Meijer and buy a Mr. Coffee with a timer
I actually have a Behmor coffee roaster that I was given as a gift by my employer and I can completely understand the purpose of one of these brewers when you’re the kind of person that roasts your own coffee. Depending on the roast you get, adjusting the settings for brew strength and timing can make a huge difference in the end result, and, if you have the model of Behmor roaster just above mine, you have the same ‘Connected’ featureset that puts a lot more power in your hands than just the keypad can.
I’m maaaaaayyyyyyybe going to be getting one of these, dammit. And I already have a kickass Breville YouBrew that Meh sold me a while back.
@TellarHK I switched from a YouBrew to the dumb version of the Brazen a while ago, and while the YouBrew is no slouch, the Brazen makes better coffee. The Brazen is probably overkill for a lot of people, but it’s great if you roast your own beans and enjoy fiddling with settings.
@TellarHK I didn’t think Behmor made a “connected” roaster? The 1600 Plus has more controls, but not connected. You still have to remember to push the dang buttons within a 30 second window. A connected version might actually be a functional product.
@crashbowman I guess I thought they had actually released it by now, but looking at the Behmor website it’s still stuck under “Coming Soon”. It’s been there for a while now, and I had that they’ll be offering upgrades for existing 1600’s.
@TellarHK Gosh that sure would be nice. Can’t tell you how many batches of coffee I have ruined because I roast outside and you can’t see the screen in sunlight and then I miss that little 30 second window to push a button proving I am alive. I constantly bounce between throwing it away, giving it away or beating it with a baseball bat. Instead I try again…
hmm…8 cups? In coffee maker talk that means if you invite 7 friends over for “coffee”, you’re going to spend the whole time watching the coffee maker, make coffee. And only two of you at a time can marvel at the wondrous hot liquid drink you’ve created. (since most mugs are about 16 oz’s) Maybe that’s the real purpose of the bluetoof? So you can keep the other 6 people entertained while they wait for their turn to have the magic elixir.
12 cups? Maybe. Under 7 minutes from start to finish? Better yet. 5.5 inch video display to watch pron while coffee brewing? Winner winner, chicken dinner! Today’s meh? Well named, and destined for someone with more patience than I or my 7 closest friends and family will ever have…;)
as the guy without a cellphone, I’d just like to say that the Clever Dripper is where it’s at for people who enjoy drinking great coffee as opposed to fiddly-farting around making great coffee.
@ekw I’ve heard good things about the Clever. Perhaps it should be my next acquisition in my slow march towards owning every kind of coffee making device.
@NullPointer I would recommend it highly.
I got mine free from West Coast Roasting back when Nate had a special going where you bought 4 pounds (I think) and got the dripper free.
I use it pretty much daily at work, as we are not allowed to have appliances like coffee makers in the office. I can boil my cup of water in the (approved) microwave, and by the time I’m back down the hall & at my desk, the water is close to the 200-205 range. pour it over the 2 tbs of coffee (1.75 tbs works fine for some blends and you get a few extra cups per pound!) and 3 or 4 minutes later, it’s coffee.
I am not a coffee “expert”. I can’t detect “blueberries”, “leather”, or “oranges” or whatever it is that sophisticated palates taste.
I drink “coffee”. no milk, no sugar, no foam, no frappe latte or whatever.
but w/ good, fresh beans the Clever makes great coffee.
I bought one last time on here for about $169 and love it overall. The pot doesn’t stay hot as long as expected, and the pour spout tends to splatter, but it brews a fine coffee. Tempted to buy another.
I’m still using a plastic Melitta cone. $2 for 50 filters, $1 for the cone (came with a ceramic cup). Makes excellent coffee. And it’s actually connected to my phone, which has an alarm which wakes me up each morning. Then I go into the kitchen and make coffee…
Truth in advertising. It’s what I love about Meh. I thought that died with the dinosaur. I use a Bunn. Three minutes and done. Makes good coffee I guess. My sailor approves and the Navy runs on coffee.
This actually looks pretty damned cool to me, and I’d probably drop the Benji if I weren’t married. The wife is unimpressed (well, at least not at this price; she did seem impressed by the instrument itself). Ironically, I wouldn’t be the coffee fiend that I am were it not for said wifey. We use at least four different means to feed our habit. I’ve been wanting to explore more in the pour over neighborhood and I’m deeply curious about the impact of temperature and timing.
C’mon, meh, I expect to pay y’all $10 for a great coffeemaker (I think that was the price for the awesome one I have at my desk now). Let me know when the price drops. Maybe put it up cheaper on Morningsave–and/or for VMPs.
@joelmw Temperature has a HUGE impact. Most people use way too little coffee and most drip machines do not get near hot enough. I measured my $100 bunn and it only gets up to about 180, which is 15 degrees to cool for optimal extraction.
I’ve become a bit of a coffee nerd reading /r/coffee
Aren’t you worried that a troubled youth might hack into the coffee maker and change the settings so that you might wake up to a too hot or too cold over or under brewed pot of morning coffee?! I am.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
1x Brewer
1x Gold Filter
1x Filter Basket
1x Carafe
Pictures
Phone coffee
Coffee Maker
Coffee Carafe
Pour in
Look at the thing
GOLD
Phone beep boop make coffee
Phoning coffee now
Hello this is coffee
Shower coffee
Price Comparison
$169.41 at Amazon
Warranty
1 Year Behmor
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Not everything needs to be “connected.” There comes a point when it is ridiculous.
@cengland0
#BLUETOOTH
EVERYTHING!
@cengland0 @mflassy
/image Bluetooth all the things
@cengland0 Honestly, this seems like a good idea from several perspectives. While I generally respect your opinion (and certainly greatly respect your person), I deem your dismissal reactionary and Luddite.
/giphy Luddite
COFFEE!!!
@yakkoTDI You mean covfefe?
@cengland0 or maybe kvothe?
@yakkoTDI
/image cat drinking coffee
Nah
I certainly don’t like coffee ~$100 worth.
Same time tomorrow, Meh?
I could use a cup right now
Android app ratings:
@cengland0 I don’t trust that Jack Paul guy.
Mmmm ramen.
Wait, I mean… Meh.
This seems like it was probably a shitty kickstarter at one point…
Just realized how redundant the phrase"Shitty Kickstarter" is…
@applsauce33
@Thumperchick Was that supposed to be a stinging rebuke?
@awk nah, more like confirmation.
@applsauce33 heh, the company (guy) actually has been working on coffee appliances for a bit. He built a roaster that does pretty well in the coffee geek circles, but it appears that this coffee maker hasn’t been as successful.
@pyip001 I was considering this until I remembered how unsavory my interactions with the guy were when I was trying to get support for the coffee roaster I bought from him that caught fire. Pass.
GFD! I just spent $100 on a Keurig 2.0 and now this? Are we really just a bunch of coffee junkies? I swear, I will stop drinking coffee now, right after my meeting tomorrow morning where I need to be alert and sh@t so I can keep my job…
NVM, I will take cream and sugar please.
@dlw65 I’m offended by your use of the word “sh@t”. Around here, we say “shit”. What the fuck?
This would look nice next to me Juicero.
But $94 just seems a little bit too cheap for a coffee maker.
@formfeed Right? It doesn’t depend on a remote back-end service and apparently you can use regular “supermarket” coffee, just like poor people do. It’s like they’re not even trying!
@formfeed
DO NOT SQUEEZE THE PACKS BY HAND WHATEVER YOU DO!!!
“…lets you drink coffee well past the point in the day when you should have stopped.”
There is a stopping point? No one told me there was a stopping point. Better just finish up this cup before I turn in.
Why does no one make a countertop coffee machine you could schedule for multiple days, put enough water and beans and it just brews without a daily ingredient refill?
@hafner They got it, you just need to hack the firmware.
@hafner The Breville YouBrew I got here awhile back holds 12 cups of water and a half pound of beans, so it’s usually good for 3 or 4 days before needing anything refilled.
@cranky1950 https://smarter.am/coffee/#
@grimgrin This. The YouBrew is amazing, and we still use ours from that same sale to this day without any issues. I really wish they’d stuck with the basic premise of the model we have instead of screwing around with whatever the successor model turned out to be with knobs and everything. I want this machine, updated. That’s all.
Mehmor
@salaosantiago Mehles
non, non, non bien sûr que non
Just what the world needs an IOT coffee pot. Can anyone spell Bubble?
Sorry, I don’t know beans about fancy coffee makers.
Even with Bluetooth, showerhead drip, temperature control and wanna-be Jetsons look, it well never Behmor than a $94 coffee maker.
I wonder if the apps communicate using the HTCPCP/1.0?
https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt
So is this Bluetooth or wifi?
Be careful your coffee doesn’t get infected with ransomware…
You kant has kaffeene before until U pays.:!
@djslack That was a good read.
@narfcake It was a very long comment and I almost stopped reading it but since you said it was a good read, I continued. Glad I did. Good ending to the story.
Amazon answered my question. It’s wifi.
This means it’s probably easy to hack and integrate with home automation. It also means it’s probably easy to hack and be yet another thing you have to work about being taken over by Russia, Eastern Europe, or China if you leave everything open.
It also could conceivably use HTCPCP.
Bring back the knives.
So many coffee details. Too many.
(airwank)
https://twitter.com/internetofshit
Pour over? More coffee styles I haven’t heard of. I tried cold brew last weekend because I keep hearing people talk about it- tasted just like normal coffee to me.
@Pantheist You probably didn’t let it cold brew long enough. It definitely tastes different. Try comparing the same beans cold brewed and hot.
@Dizavid I just tried a bottle of premade stuff.
@Pantheist Yep, therein lies the issue…
Wouldn’t Pehmor than $30 for a coffee maker. 10 cup ROI investment would Behmor the right budget for this item. Pass.
/image this is Stupid! animated gif
I have the dumb version of this machine, no fancy Bluetooth connectivity. Makes great coffee by heating the entire amount of water to near boiling before brewing. Does take awhile, so I start by filling the reservoir & starting the machine, then grind the beans and get the filter ready. Carafe keeps it hot for hours. Paid $165 for mine last year, so this is a comparative bargain, if the fancy Bluetooth stuff works.
I owned the non-smartphone version when testing out a bunch of different coffee makers with temperature control in a quest for the perfect cup.
The bad:
this thing is really tall. Measure to make sure it will fit under your cabinets.
It’s kinda slow
It’s better suited for making a carafe of coffee than just one or two cups.
The good:
You can dial it in to the perfect brew temperature.
And tell it to presoak the ground coffee.
It makes a really REALLY good cuppa.
meh… 40oz is barely a travel mug.
@alacrity Is that large enough for a margarita?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Room_coffee_pot
that there’s no automatic feature dismays me… i want it waiting for me when i crawl out of bed and claw my way up the counter…
@alacrity tie it to your phone’s alarm with ifttt… Start it when your alarm goes off, you get one snooze then by the time you drag yourself into the kitchen it’s coffee time.
Or if you’re a slow dragger, tie it to turning off your alarm.
@djslack after an unfortunate incident involving a rubber sheet and a Bullwinkle mask, i do not allow a cell phine in the bedroom. Things get misconstrued when taken out if context. And the last thinf i’m capable of at 4 am is fealing with an app.
@alacrity When you use your phone to start a brew, the last step is to “brew now” or “brew later.” If you choose “later” you can set a brew time for any time in the next 24 hours and it will automatically start then.
@alacrity
/giphy bullwinkle
I bought one of these for $169 back in February (which was a very good price at the time) and have been happy with it. If you use it without your smart phone, it works very much like (and produces coffee as good as) the Moccamaster. With the smart phone, you can tweak temperature and dwell time if you care about that kind of thing. It’s an open question whether it’ll be as durable as the Teknivorm products have been, but so far it feels like a small step up in quality at just over half the price. At just under a third the price, I’d like it even better.
It is very tall, so measure carefully if you need it to fit under a cabinet.
@petard steam from tall coffee makers can damage the cabinets above. I know.
@davido short ones too… it’s best to pull any coffee maker out from under the cabinets while it’s brewing.
@petard I’m a caffeine addict, and my Technivorm Moccamaster is >12 years old. Hooked it to a programmable Bluetooth plug and yell “Alexa start coffee” heaven!
@cocoabrioche Yeah, the Moccamaster is a great one. The only thing I ever thought it lacked was ability to change temperature. But it’s perfectly reasonable to expect that if you keep it descaled, it will outlive you. The Behmor brewers do not feel likely to be quite as durable.
@petard Per Q&A on Amazon, 15.2" tall. For anyone who’s curious.
Check some thrift stores, find a moka pot.
There, I just hooked you up with even better coffee than this overpriced piece of shit will make, and saved you $92.
@Dizavid Amen - love my moka pot.
@Dizavid Go figure; my moka pot was among the few kitchen unitaskers that I bought new. And at $20, it was worth it.
http://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/art/30149839/
@narfcake I have two now and I need to replace the rubber gasket on the small one. What’s the most affordable way to do that? I checked eBay and it seemed awfully pricy for what it is.
@Dizavid $2-3 each is about what you should expect to pay when in a multi-pack.
I just recently purchased a coffee pot. It’s a Mr. Coffee with a 12-cup carafe (which is really 5 since I use a 12oz mug). It has a timer so you can have coffee ready for you when you wake up. It was $20 and I grabbed it off the shelf at the grocery store. How’s the coffee taste? IDGAF, it’s brown energy juice that makes me less tired.
tl;dr - just go to Meijer and buy a Mr. Coffee with a timer
@cpierce “How’s the coffee taste? IDGAF.” Therein lies the difference - IGAF, absolutely.
I actually have a Behmor coffee roaster that I was given as a gift by my employer and I can completely understand the purpose of one of these brewers when you’re the kind of person that roasts your own coffee. Depending on the roast you get, adjusting the settings for brew strength and timing can make a huge difference in the end result, and, if you have the model of Behmor roaster just above mine, you have the same ‘Connected’ featureset that puts a lot more power in your hands than just the keypad can.
I’m maaaaaayyyyyyybe going to be getting one of these, dammit. And I already have a kickass Breville YouBrew that Meh sold me a while back.
@TellarHK I switched from a YouBrew to the dumb version of the Brazen a while ago, and while the YouBrew is no slouch, the Brazen makes better coffee. The Brazen is probably overkill for a lot of people, but it’s great if you roast your own beans and enjoy fiddling with settings.
@TellarHK I didn’t think Behmor made a “connected” roaster? The 1600 Plus has more controls, but not connected. You still have to remember to push the dang buttons within a 30 second window. A connected version might actually be a functional product.
@crashbowman I guess I thought they had actually released it by now, but looking at the Behmor website it’s still stuck under “Coming Soon”. It’s been there for a while now, and I had that they’ll be offering upgrades for existing 1600’s.
@TellarHK Gosh that sure would be nice. Can’t tell you how many batches of coffee I have ruined because I roast outside and you can’t see the screen in sunlight and then I miss that little 30 second window to push a button proving I am alive. I constantly bounce between throwing it away, giving it away or beating it with a baseball bat. Instead I try again…
/giphy Lazy My $20 MrCoffee works fine, it takes 5 minutes to add water & coffee
This coffeemaker is the “Boyhood” of coffeemakers. It’s good because it took 12 years… I mean, 10 minutes to make.
hmm…8 cups? In coffee maker talk that means if you invite 7 friends over for “coffee”, you’re going to spend the whole time watching the coffee maker, make coffee. And only two of you at a time can marvel at the wondrous hot liquid drink you’ve created. (since most mugs are about 16 oz’s) Maybe that’s the real purpose of the bluetoof? So you can keep the other 6 people entertained while they wait for their turn to have the magic elixir.
12 cups? Maybe. Under 7 minutes from start to finish? Better yet. 5.5 inch video display to watch pron while coffee brewing? Winner winner, chicken dinner! Today’s meh? Well named, and destined for someone with more patience than I or my 7 closest friends and family will ever have…;)
after reading the reviews on Amazon, esp. about privacy concerns, I would pay MEH 5 bucks just to be able to use a “double MEH” button…
as the guy without a cellphone, I’d just like to say that the Clever Dripper is where it’s at for people who enjoy drinking great coffee as opposed to fiddly-farting around making great coffee.
@ekw I’ve heard good things about the Clever. Perhaps it should be my next acquisition in my slow march towards owning every kind of coffee making device.
@NullPointer I would recommend it highly.
I got mine free from West Coast Roasting back when Nate had a special going where you bought 4 pounds (I think) and got the dripper free.
I use it pretty much daily at work, as we are not allowed to have appliances like coffee makers in the office. I can boil my cup of water in the (approved) microwave, and by the time I’m back down the hall & at my desk, the water is close to the 200-205 range. pour it over the 2 tbs of coffee (1.75 tbs works fine for some blends and you get a few extra cups per pound!) and 3 or 4 minutes later, it’s coffee.
I am not a coffee “expert”. I can’t detect “blueberries”, “leather”, or “oranges” or whatever it is that sophisticated palates taste.
I drink “coffee”. no milk, no sugar, no foam, no frappe latte or whatever.
but w/ good, fresh beans the Clever makes great coffee.
Lie of the century - ‘the best user interface in the world - your phone’
Just add a button folks!
@cking22001 I think that line was meant to be a tongue-in-cheek comment.
I bought one last time on here for about $169 and love it overall. The pot doesn’t stay hot as long as expected, and the pour spout tends to splatter, but it brews a fine coffee. Tempted to buy another.
I’m still using a plastic Melitta cone. $2 for 50 filters, $1 for the cone (came with a ceramic cup). Makes excellent coffee. And it’s actually connected to my phone, which has an alarm which wakes me up each morning. Then I go into the kitchen and make coffee…
Truth in advertising. It’s what I love about Meh. I thought that died with the dinosaur. I use a Bunn. Three minutes and done. Makes good coffee I guess. My sailor approves and the Navy runs on coffee.
It’s SCAA approved.
This actually looks pretty damned cool to me, and I’d probably drop the Benji if I weren’t married. The wife is unimpressed (well, at least not at this price; she did seem impressed by the instrument itself). Ironically, I wouldn’t be the coffee fiend that I am were it not for said wifey. We use at least four different means to feed our habit. I’ve been wanting to explore more in the pour over neighborhood and I’m deeply curious about the impact of temperature and timing.
C’mon, meh, I expect to pay y’all $10 for a great coffeemaker (I think that was the price for the awesome one I have at my desk now). Let me know when the price drops. Maybe put it up cheaper on Morningsave–and/or for VMPs.
@joelmw Temperature has a HUGE impact. Most people use way too little coffee and most drip machines do not get near hot enough. I measured my $100 bunn and it only gets up to about 180, which is 15 degrees to cool for optimal extraction.
I’ve become a bit of a coffee nerd reading /r/coffee
Aren’t you worried that a troubled youth might hack into the coffee maker and change the settings so that you might wake up to a too hot or too cold over or under brewed pot of morning coffee?! I am.
Can you boil water with this?
/giphy boil water
For great coffee. Make your time.
/giphy foggy-kissable-mulberry
I use a $20 Mister Coffee, and bloom the grounds with water from my kettle. Cheap, easy, and good.
If the brand was MehMor, I would totally buy it. I’ll stick to my Chemex
Hmm super want one. Already own nespresso, keurig, and drip pot… hmmmm