@zachhh The specs on the camera are rarely the limiting factor for most folks who are looking to do calls via Zoom/Teams/Skype. Most of the 1080p30 cameras will vary only slightly in sensor sensitivity and visual noise in darker situations. Microphone sensitivity and tone will be the bigger differentiator for most people. Additionally, the video streams in work or other conference calls are the first thing to get hammered by aggressive compression, so increased resolution becomes far less beneficial than good audio, particularly as any call members have limited bandwidth that would trigger that compression.
If someone were up to a “bigger” game, and wanted something to stream for entertainment, like gamers on Twitch or similar, then better cameras could actually start to matter. But that also requires additional bandwidth, and on-the-fly video processing capability in addition to plentiful bandwidth on a platform that wouldn’t immediately just crush a stream. In those instances the common “specs” on paper will matter far less than the quality behind them, so the metrics of resolution and frame rates won’t contribute as much as sensor size, ISO, bit depth, bit rate, or other factors that would likely point to a much, MUCH more expensive camera.
For what this is intended to do, the specs are sufficient for video. But I have seen little about how the mic and sound hold up. Hope that helps
Conveniently enough, their SideDeal site is selling stand-alone microphones. As just a physically larger microphone, it’s going to be higher quality than whatever could be placed into pretty much any webcam.
Even if it had a good mic built into the webcam, if you’re using speakers, any mic (or streaming software) would have to use software to avoid feedback which is going to alter the sound.
For what it’s worth, I was speaking with a Court Reporter who works over Zoom, and she said that the best audio quality comes from people who wear headsets with boom mics
@Strannahans No, the best audio comes from people with standalone dynamic microphones. Lots of standalones get a bad rap because a lot of people have been sold condenser mics that do not benefit from the advantages of a condenser mic and instead play into the disadvantages of a condenser mic. 90% of people using microphones need a dynamic mic. Microphones integrated into headsets usually aren’t very good however they have gotten better over time and the sound is usually better than mics that are integrated into cameras simplu due to how close to the source they are.
@Maccaroney@Strannahans just pony up and buy an RE20 from me (the guy that fixes RE20s) ☺ sn SM7 and a cloudlifter will get it done for less money. But I’m going to suggest an RE20 into a Neve 1073 into a CL1B with maybe an 1176 and an LA2A into an RME or Aurora into your PC.
I have been looking for a webcam with zoom capability (not the session manager, the focal length changer) for under a hundred bucks for ages. (Not continuously, I probably missed a few) and hadn’t found one. And this one is fifteen bucks. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!
@braveit1@erthian Given how even a two-person video conf can run into bandwidth issues at 1080p, I have no particular desire to look for a 4k webcam. I’m not trying to compose video for YouTube, and if I wanted to do that, I’d use the GoPro or the Nikon, depending on the situation.
@erthian I don’t see where it comes with a remote, though there must be some other control for the pan/tilt/zoom functions. It mentions compatibility with some Avaya apps, so are these controlled by a smartphone app? Ah, who cares… I am keeping my $15 this time.
With return-to-office mandates, I must open my laptop for meetings since half the office still wants to see faces. I hope this can fly under IT’s radar, and I can pop it on the external monitors to better hide that I am continuing to work during meetings that should be an email.
You get what you pay for. I’m in th business and you really should be getting 4K vs. 1080P preferably with a Sony sensor and glass lens. But that will put you back up around $100. Even though conferencing sofware will downgrade the video quality to 720P or so its still best to start out with a higher resolution image. FYI Avaya is a telco company so they are just putting there names on someone elses camera. FYI digital zoom is usually not very good
I bought one of these a couple of weeks ago. It works surprisingly well. No setup, no software install, I just plugged it in. fwiw I’m using a Mac Studio. Amazing computer, but no camera. This fixes that, for peanuts.
This camera has no optical zoom, or panning or tilting motors. Description here is very misleading, vs. the one on Amazon. No way its a $115 camera, that we are getting such a deal on. This is the $15-20 piece of plastic that will (if you’re lucky) crank out acceptable 1080p and audio, that we should expect it to be. The price, then so-called discount, zero reviews on Amazon… Meh it seems like you’re moving more and more into ‘dishonest’ territory!
Got mine in. It’s nice and weighty, definitely not a cheap piece of plastic. Video quality is very good with regular office lighting (overhead LED fixtures in the room, no special light on me), but that extra 7 degrees of view over the C920 shows a good bit more of my office/the stuff I have out of view of the normal camera.
The microphone is a bit less than sensitive, but I normally use a standalone (Neat Bumblebee II that Woot is currently selling for a steal at $20) so that’s not a problem. In the Windows microphone test, with the webcam atop my monitor and gain set to 100, the most it registers is 9%.
With about 10 minutes worth of playing with it, I’d say this is a very good webcam for $15. Much better than anything else around this price point. Combine it with a good mic or headset and you’re good to go.