WFH no question. I’ve saved over $1100 in gas prices this year alone, I don’t have to deal with in person drama, and I haven’t gotten the crud from my co-workers with school age kids in three years. Best of all I don’t have to wear a bra unless I want to.
You should shoot for at least 25 so you can get an antique car plate. The ghetto van (1990 grand caravan era of the peeling paint - kid named it that, it also had an axe gash in the side thank you a disgruntled student - that student hit a bunch of cars), lasted 25 years and 3 mo and then blew an engine bearing. It is very entertaining to drive a wreck looking vehicle with antique car plates. Some people are not happy when you do.
@ironcheftoni I just throw on a bathrobe and make sure the coast is clear when I slither out to grab the package. And also unlock the door in case it unexpectedly closes while I’m grabbing the package.
At home I have a proper room with a door and a monitor that was made after 2009 and pictures of my children. When I go into the office once a week I get to hear some random person next to me chew on pistachios for 6 hours while looking at a monitor that can’t even output 720p.
Aside from not having to get dressed when I WFH, I roll out of bed at 8:55 AM to logon to work by 9:00 AM, as opposed to getting up by 7:30 AM to commute to the office 2 days per week. I cherish the extra 1-1/2 hours of sleep and like saving money on gas. And also not having to wear pants unless I go out after work.
I’m a test engineer so a huge amount of my work is hands on building stuff either soldering or down in the shop on the mill or using various other tools. I also do some coding and a metric ton of data analysis. Me and a firmware engineer are doing a big presentation tomorrow because we just figured out a huge problem that likely could have killed the product under development.
All that said, even if I could work from home I probably wouldn’t. I work with a great and experienced team and we consult each other frequently. That’s how things like the aforementioned problem get solved.
Not to mention I get distracted easily so I’m never very productive working at home.
@tweezak I used to have a team I loved working with, many years ago. Then things changed (we all got shuffled around), then I switched jobs. I thought I was moving into something good, but several years later I finally realized how bad [for me] it actually was.
I work with a great and experienced team and we consult each other frequently.
My team was pretty good and quite experienced, but they did not consult each other frequently. (I haven’t figured out whether that was due more to the culture, or just the fact that we were all on different projects.) That eventually is what did me in. I already felt isolated at work when we were in the office, but when the company response to COVID forced all of us to work from home, suddenly I was even more isolated.
(and perpetually given work assignments that were not well-suited to me, and then being punished for not being good at it, …)
I guess my point is that I’m jealous of your good situation. I used to be on a team like that (15 years ago) and I really, really miss it.
@tweezak@xobzoo wow! You just described my work life almost to the exact scenario. I’m back to work after a WFH period, brought on by COVID and an unrelated health event that prevented me from driving. Once I finally returned to the office I realized I had become the favorite rumor mill topic with claims that I was scamming the whole time and not doing my job. The truth is, I was giving the company more time and was accomplishing a lot more from home than I can at my office. My supervisor knows and I received the best performance review of my career during this WFH period.
I’m looking for a new job now after 37+ years with the same company. It’s just horrible to come to work now with the unprofessional rumor mill and loss of friends (who I now know never were friends) and the untrue judgements that I face every day.
@accelerator@tweezak@xobzoo I worked with a great team within a large tech company through the 80’s and into the early 90’s. Then with a smaller subset of the team at a different company for 4 years, then an even smaller subset of us started a new company, where I stayed for another 21 years before retiring.
In July we had an informal reunion open to anyone who had been part of the team throughout the years (we had been doing these semi-regularly for the last ~25 years, but not so much during Covid). The majority of the ~30 who showed up were from the original group from the 80’s, most of whom had not worked together since the early 90’s.
Now that’s a team!
@xobzoo Companies like Intel are like what you described. People hold their knowledge close to the vest because being the sole source for that information keeps them valuable and helps them to survive layoffs. In my previous job people were always willing to help and shared what they knew without hesitation. I got caught in a workforce reduction when the company hit a rough patch. My current company is minuscule by comparison and we can’t afford to lose anyone so it’s a pretty cohesive group.
Because of traffic my commute is an hour each way unless I get up at 5:30 and leave at 6am. After working from home for a while, traffic just seems like a gigantic waste of time for myself and work. I’m more productive at home because no one stops at my desk to chit chat. I also really enjoy walking the kids to school and taking the break in the afternoon to walk them home from school.
I work in IT so I can can do 95% of my stuff from home. But I also work in a lab so there are things I have to be hands on occasionally. At the start of covid, most of staff went to WFH but I was one of a handful of employees required to be onsite. Fortunately, I have a short commute. And the parking options were glorious
@smyle We built an office for my S.O. in my stockroom (my business is home-based) so that he could be free of distractions during the day. It even has a potted aloe on the windowsill, and a pull-down background shade to make it easy to deploy a virtual background for video conferences or calls.
@werehatrack Nice! My wife also works from home now, so we converted one of the kids’ old rooms to her office. Our workspaces are completely separate, but we still get to have lunch together (most days, meetings permitting), so it’s a win-win.
@smyle My main beeves are noise – people stand outside my cube and hold hallway meetings like they’re talking over a lawnmower – and skin damage from my commute.
But yeah, tech at the office stinks. They don’t do any antispam on the desk phones (which are only used to relay important time-sensitive queries from the security department, so you can’t unplug them), the lighting is the best 2002 had to offer, the teleconferencing setups don’t cover the whole rooms, and they insist on giving out tiny little low-res monitors that aren’t worth a twice-daily disruption to one’s desktop layout.
Also I’m injured and have only started healing since I started working from the recliner, and personal furniture is verboten.
I’m WFH right now, but I’d be open to a hybrid schedule with maybe 2 days a week in the office. I think I there are some advantages to seeing your co-workers in person. I’m definitely never going back to 100% in-person, though. I enjoy the lack of commute and ability to switch jobs without having to move.
Wfh, and it’s permanent now with my company as they are selling the building. Anyone wanna buy a smallish (150 employees) office building in Richardson Texas that backs up against a snooty subdivision with a nimby hoa. They only tolerated us because we are not the apartments across the street that their former mayor promised that wouldn’t be built. Well, that is until she started sleeping with the developer.
@haydesigner oh I expect it to be a lifetime movie once they run out of women killing their husband’s stories. A classic tale of mayor meets boy, boy showers her with riches for just pushing a few permits through city hall. They start an affair, both leave their spouses and get married. Get caught in the bribery and corruption and now they are both sporting matching jumpsuits .
Well it would be nice if I could work from home, BUT due to the fact that I do Computer Hardware support, In other words If it is Broke, I Fix.
I work large Corp IT support "2nd level Desktop/ Side support. (you call help desk (NO Help), They put in a trouble ticket for a Tech to come see ya)
It is just that Home don’t have the Bandwidth you would need when you have a standard Consumer grade Internet, even though you have the highest speed.
Also companies have a problem with you taking a lot of hardware home with you!
I was already work from home before the pandemic started. Once it hit, I noticed that my teammates were working harder than ever remotely. Now my boss periodically threatens them with working in the office (because my boss is an incompetent jerk that will get us shut down some day if it weren’t for the interference I run for her). Aside from forced sitting on zoom calls ALL DAY LONG, WFH is still better but I have to say, I goofed off way more in the office. Also don’t miss commuting.
I have been working from home for three years and was recently confirmed as FT WFH status. I am thrilled. No commute, no office clothes, no water cooler conversations, etc. I am so much more productive and I have more work life balance. Also, Charlie is thrilled that I don’t have to leave him.
@tinamarie1974 Missy and Squeaker prefer the wfh life too. Missy and I have lunch together. Salad for me, and Purina hydration supplement for her to help with her kidney issues. Squeaker usually holds all my paperwork down on my desk.
WFH has better tech, and fewer interruptions, but less collaboration. My direct reports are almost all remote, and it works well. I’m in the office purely so others can walk to my desk to ask questions instead of using the technology that provides a beautiful paper trail and reference materials for when memory fails in two weeks. The downside is I don’t see people who are forced to be friendly during 8-5, so I’d have to be an adult and find more friends with similar interests to keep the human connection happening daily.
I do sound and video stuff. There’s advantages to both. I’m definitely more dedicated and sorta put-my-head-down-and-charge-through in my home studio. I soar through change lists and whatnot. But having a few collaborators around to bounce ideas off and play versions back and forth quickly, while it does make any individual change take more time, often makes the overall product stronger and more interesting - and can actually somewhat improve overall throughput in some cases (YMMV). Online collaboration does replicate some of the same effects, although if you’re trying to record a band or something like that it’s still pretty hard and not quite there yet (but it’s a lot closer than a few years ago). For most jobs nowadays, there’s no need and few benefits for gathering in any particular location - and certainly not all the time! - but there are some jobs where the advantages of IRL collaboration can drag out even a hard core introvert like me.
I prefer the days I get to WFH. I have a 40 mile commute one way and my round trip yesterday was over 2.5 hours. I could have actually gotten more work done during that commute time. However I guess seeing me working in that cubicle as I join Teams meetings because not everyone is in Houston is worth my wasted time and the negative environmental impact.
I hate the commute of going to the office, but (if you’re in a good situation) it can be good to be around your coworkers. Of course, this depends a lot on the type of work you do, but a whole lot more on your workplace.
Some places are so awesome that in-office or WFH are both good. Some places are so evil that nothing you can do will ever make it bearable.
@xobzoo Before a big company bought the small company I worked for and closed the office, we did lots of fun stuff. The best was an indoor mini golf tournament, but we’d find any excuse to have a potluck. I miss the fun we had together, but my situation with the big company is better: I WFH, so no commute, no office drama (a married couple who worked there got dramatically divorced), and more opportunities to do the work I prefer.
I prefer to go in. It’s a 3 mile commute. I have 2 24 inch monitors and 1 50 inch monitor. There is typically only 2 or 3 people in the office, which can seat 60. Dress code is out the window so sweats and a tshirt daily. I stream Netflix, Paramount Plus or whatever my heart desires all day. Plus I work on hardware (laptops and computers) and have to ship atleast once a week to those who get to work from home.
Bonus: time away from the husband who is working remote full time.
Negative: can’t take my cat to work.
Going into the office is also my preference, but that’s because I work with a wonderful team in a small site for a huge manufacturing firm that manages to maintain a tight-knit, cohesive atmosphere from majority of our union and office staff. Think it helps that I’ve jumped across that line a couple of times, but what really helped me express gratitude was working in a rather toxic environment in Boulder, CO, and enduring that area’s hyperinflated housing market for a couple of years before I returned to the Midwest.
So no, the grass isn’t always greener on the other side. In fact, it’s quite brown - either dormant or dead.