Meh are you spying on me!?! I just spotted the cube at bestbuy today and was considering it. For me the biggest hurdle is how easily or not you can create and copy existing items.
I don't think 3D printing is over rated.. Over-priced is another subject entirely.. I shopped for a few just the other day and it seemed loan companies sat up shop right next to the department.. With balloons and party favors, obviously reserved for their benefit I'm sure.
@Thumperchick@ceagee if you take the 'sagre' out of 'disagree' you end up with 'die.' Changing TC's original comment to "The first recipient of a 3D bioprinted organ will most likely die."
I wouldn't say it will "transform manufacturing" or "change the way we buy things" but it does make rapid prototyping easy and accessible. And I'm having a great deal of fun with it! ;-) I made an 8" tall Bender, but managed to break his leg. Gotta print another! Also, I made a plastic part that allowed me to put up my auto shade after the plastic part that held it up broke. And various boring work things. I'm going to print up a bunch of skull pencil-toppers for trick-or-treaters this year.
@PocketBrain My kid's school has a 3d printer and the materials are expensive. Quote from the teacher "For example to make a cellphone cover would have cost over well over $10 in material, so it was not worth making one."
@caffeine_dude Wow, where are they getting their material? Are they printing it in 24k gold? That cellphone cover should be no well under 25 grams, and at $30/kg for ABS filament, that would be less than a buck.
@Deech Generally you'll pay a little more on 1kg. spools, as there are 3 spools in 3kg of 1kg spools and just 1 spool on 1 3-kg spool, assuming you mean a spool of filament, and not a bucket of plastic pellets, which are generally 5-to-1 cheaper than filament. Still, $50 for 3kg, where are you buying? :-)
@PocketBrain Actually, it's 3 - 1kg spools of 1.75mm PLA. Three different colors. The seller is "my_filament_shop" on ebay. Normally, he sells 1kg rolls for $17.99, but he's currently doing a sale of 3 - 1 kg rolls for $49.99. We've burned through a good pile of it at our hackerspace, and it's been pretty consistently good quality. Edit: Also, he ships free.
@joelmw Upon re-read that personal use comment is a bit scary. Maybe "not for commercial use" would have been clearer......if clarity is something to strive for when talking about an 8" plastic figure of an often angry yet mysteriously insightful troll puppet creature on a site with a prevailing theme of indifference.
@bluedyn I don't fuck goats, but I have been called a pervert often enough that I'm starting to think it might be true. I really don't believe it is. I say that in deference to actual perverts who, IMO at least, are way more pervy than I could ever hope to be. I mean, not exactly that I hope to be pervy, but I aspire to be more pervy than I am. I'm sure I just said the wrong thing. I blame @Thumperchick.
@PocketBrain Honestly, I don't know. We've only gotten the Florescent Green, F. Yellow and the blue. I've got the black and white and clear on order. The red on their site doesn't really pop to me, so probably not. I was disappointed that the blue is more "sky" than "tardis".
@PocketBrain Back to the original thought, I'm betting the school is using say, a Da Vinci or a Cube 3D and they buy the filiment in cartridges, which is stupid pricey. Like $49/0.7lbs pricey.
Diane Ackerman's latest book, The Human Age, has a neat chapter about 3-D printing. But that stuff's in the future and when it all happens, that's when 3-D printing won't be overrated anymore.
As an amateur sculptor, I love the idea and hate it in about equal measure. If I had one I could reproduce original works at a price that would make them viable for resale. OTOH, the mass production of 3D art is what knocked the bottom out of sales in the first place.
Call me crazy, Irk, but, in addition to organs and silly shit like that (I know, right? Who needs organs?), I think this is kind of a big deal: A Giant 3D Printer Builds Ten Houses In One Day Narrow range of sizes and materials? Pshaw.
As usual in this messed up world of ours, what's gonna get in the way is people who don't want things to be genuinely affordable for and available to the masses.
I don't think it's overrated; I just think people need to appreciate the time that it takes for this stuff to trickle down and the various obstacles (and assholes) between here and there. The only reason I don't get more excited about emerging technologies like this is that I know how many assholes there are in the world. The technology itself is way more than extremely neato.
@joelmw Sorry, I somehow missed that you'd posted on the same story hours ahead of me. My Halloween costume is copycat. Actually, that could be fun if you had several people in cat costumes.
Chinese company WinSun Decoration Design Engineering has constructed a set of ten single story, 3D-printed homes which it produced in under 24 hours. The homes, printed in prefabricated panels which fit together on site, were created using WinSun’s custom-built 3D printer which measures 10 meters by 6.6 meters, and took the company twelve years to develop." Pretty nifty. http://www.archdaily.com/543518/chinese-company-showcases-ten-3d-printed-houses/
Per usual, I agree with Irk. For which I blame @thumperchick.
@pmulry As is often the case, Irk is full of shit. For which I blame @Thumperchick.
@joelmw @pmulry I'm sorry I managed to be at fault for both sides of the debate. It's a talent and a burden.
"People who practice hyperbole should be murdered..."
Error... Error... My logic chip is shorting. I'm stuck in a hyperbolic loop...
@BillLehecka Even better that there is "Literally nothing worse than hyperbole"...
@tightwad Yeah, I was gonna post that, because it made me LLOL.
Meh are you spying on me!?! I just spotted the cube at bestbuy today and was considering it. For me the biggest hurdle is how easily or not you can create and copy existing items.
I don't think 3D printing is over rated.. Over-priced is another subject entirely.. I shopped for a few just the other day and it seemed loan companies sat up shop right next to the department.. With balloons and party favors, obviously reserved for their benefit I'm sure.
Overrated? The first recipient of a 3D bioprinted organ will most likely disagree.
You have an extra "sagre" in there
@matthew Already happened. http://io9.com/toddler-with-bioengineered-windpipe-dies-three-months-a-719011089
@stienman Well that got really dark fast.
@matthew Google isn't helping me here. What's a sagre?
@stienman The headline on that is a bit misleading. The bioengineered trachea worked well, the baby's lungs just couldn't keep up. Poor kid,
@Thumperchick My understanding is it's the most popular beer in Portugal.
@Thumperchick @ceagee if you take the 'sagre' out of 'disagree' you end up with 'die.' Changing TC's original comment to "The first recipient of a 3D bioprinted organ will most likely die."
@JonT
@JonT Thanks for the explanation. And sadly it was true. I think I like the beer better.
@stienman On the plus side there's also this: http://io9.com/how-a-3d-printer-saved-this-babys-life-509522983. "Kaiba is now 20 months old and is doing "wonderful."
@JonT thank you for the explaination.
@matthew in an attempt to look up the definition of that word, ios8 crashed on me because I couldn't select it.
I'm not even sure I've seen anything printed on a 3-D printer. I'm quite sure it doesn't matter.
Aah, imagine a world in which Irk could really decide who gets - and who does not get - murdered!
I wouldn't say it will "transform manufacturing" or "change the way we buy things" but it does make rapid prototyping easy and accessible. And I'm having a great deal of fun with it! ;-) I made an 8" tall Bender, but managed to break his leg. Gotta print another! Also, I made a plastic part that allowed me to put up my auto shade after the plastic part that held it up broke. And various boring work things. I'm going to print up a bunch of skull pencil-toppers for trick-or-treaters this year.
@PocketBrain My kid's school has a 3d printer and the materials are expensive. Quote from the teacher "For example to make a cellphone cover would have cost over well over $10 in material, so it was not worth making one."
@caffeine_dude Wow, where are they getting their material? Are they printing it in 24k gold? That cellphone cover should be no well under 25 grams, and at $30/kg for ABS filament, that would be less than a buck.
@PocketBrain Even the more expensive Soft PLA would be about $2.50 at 25g, Ninjaflex about $2.75.
@PocketBrain Gov't is involved.
@PocketBrain How about an 8" tall Irk. For personal use only of course.
@PocketBrain $30kg? Where are you getting your material? I just bought 3kg of PLA for $50.
@Deech Generally you'll pay a little more on 1kg. spools, as there are 3 spools in 3kg of 1kg spools and just 1 spool on 1 3-kg spool, assuming you mean a spool of filament, and not a bucket of plastic pellets, which are generally 5-to-1 cheaper than filament. Still, $50 for 3kg, where are you buying? :-)
@PocketBrain Actually, it's 3 - 1kg spools of 1.75mm PLA. Three different colors. The seller is "my_filament_shop" on ebay. Normally, he sells 1kg rolls for $17.99, but he's currently doing a sale of 3 - 1 kg rolls for $49.99. We've burned through a good pile of it at our hackerspace, and it's been pretty consistently good quality. Edit: Also, he ships free.
@Deech Woot!
@denboy And what exactly would be your "personal use" for an 8" tall Irk? Just wondering . . .
@Deech Hey, how red is their red? My red turned out orangish. I want a redder red.
@joelmw Finally someone else was willing to be the perv and ask that question. Thank you, not-a-goatfucker.
@joelmw Upon re-read that personal use comment is a bit scary. Maybe "not for commercial use" would have been clearer......if clarity is something to strive for when talking about an 8" plastic figure of an often angry yet mysteriously insightful troll puppet creature on a site with a prevailing theme of indifference.
@bluedyn I don't fuck goats, but I have been called a pervert often enough that I'm starting to think it might be true. I really don't believe it is. I say that in deference to actual perverts who, IMO at least, are way more pervy than I could ever hope to be. I mean, not exactly that I hope to be pervy, but I aspire to be more pervy than I am. I'm sure I just said the wrong thing. I blame @Thumperchick.
@denboy If it helps, I think "professional use" sounds even worse.
@PocketBrain Honestly, I don't know. We've only gotten the Florescent Green, F. Yellow and the blue. I've got the black and white and clear on order. The red on their site doesn't really pop to me, so probably not. I was disappointed that the blue is more "sky" than "tardis".
@PocketBrain Back to the original thought, I'm betting the school is using say, a Da Vinci or a Cube 3D and they buy the filiment in cartridges, which is stupid pricey. Like $49/0.7lbs pricey.
@joelmw @denboy How about not saying "use" at all WRT Irk replicas?
@joelmw Seems to me like you're just the right amount of perv. No need to aim higher (lower?).
Diane Ackerman's latest book, The Human Age, has a neat chapter about 3-D printing. But that stuff's in the future and when it all happens, that's when 3-D printing won't be overrated anymore.
As an amateur sculptor, I love the idea and hate it in about equal measure. If I had one I could reproduce original works at a price that would make them viable for resale. OTOH, the mass production of 3D art is what knocked the bottom out of sales in the first place.
Call me crazy, Irk, but, in addition to organs and silly shit like that (I know, right? Who needs organs?), I think this is kind of a big deal: A Giant 3D Printer Builds Ten Houses In One Day Narrow range of sizes and materials? Pshaw.
As usual in this messed up world of ours, what's gonna get in the way is people who don't want things to be genuinely affordable for and available to the masses.
I don't think it's overrated; I just think people need to appreciate the time that it takes for this stuff to trickle down and the various obstacles (and assholes) between here and there. The only reason I don't get more excited about emerging technologies like this is that I know how many assholes there are in the world. The technology itself is way more than extremely neato.
@joelmw Sorry, I somehow missed that you'd posted on the same story hours ahead of me. My Halloween costume is copycat. Actually, that could be fun if you had several people in cat costumes.
Chinese company WinSun Decoration Design Engineering has constructed a set of ten single story, 3D-printed homes which it produced in under 24 hours. The homes, printed in prefabricated panels which fit together on site, were created using WinSun’s custom-built 3D printer which measures 10 meters by 6.6 meters, and took the company twelve years to develop." Pretty nifty.
http://www.archdaily.com/543518/chinese-company-showcases-ten-3d-printed-houses/