... are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, ...
16When the American Revolutionary War began in 1775, few colonists in British North America openly advocated independence from Great Britain. Support for independence grew steadily in 1776, especially after the publication of Thomas Paine’s pamphlet Common Sense in January of that year. In the Second Continental Congress, the movement towards independence was guided principally by an informal alliance of delegates eventually known as the “Adams-Lee Junto”, after Samuel Adams and John Adams of Massachusetts and Richard Henry Lee of Virginia.
On May 15, 1776, the revolutionary Virginia Convention, then meeting in Williamsburg, passed a resolution instructing Virginia’s delegates in the Continental Congress “to propose to that respectable body to declare the United Colonies free and independent States, absolved from all allegiance to, or dependence upon, the Crown or Parliament of Great Britain”.[4] In accordance with those instructions, on June 7, Richard Henry Lee proposed the resolution to Congress and it was seconded by John Adams.
Resolved, That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved.
That it is expedient forthwith to take the most effectual measures for forming foreign Alliances.
That a plan of confederation be prepared and transmitted to the respective Colonies for their consideration and approbation.
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Although it would shortly be outshone by the much more famous declaration, the Lee Resolution’s passage was contemporaneously reported as the colonies’ definitive declaration of independence from Great Britain. The evening of July 2, the Pennsylvania Evening Post reported:
This day the CONTINENTAL CONGRESS declared the UNITED COLONIES FREE and INDEPENDENT STATES.[9]
The Pennsylvania Gazette followed suit the next day with its own brief report:
Yesterday, the
CONTINENTAL CONGRESS declared the UNITED COLONIES FREE and
INDEPENDENT STATES.[10]
After passing the resolution of independence on July 2, Congress turned its attention to the text of the declaration. Over several days of debate, Congress made a number of alterations to the text, including adding the wording of Lee’s resolution of independence to the conclusion. The final text of the declaration was approved by Congress on July 4 and sent off to be printed.
John Adams wrote his wife Abigail on July 3 about the resolution of independence:
The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever more.[11]
Adams’s prediction was off by two days. From the outset, Americans celebrated Independence Day on July 4, the date the much-publicized Declaration of Independence was approved, rather than on July 2, the date the resolution of independence was adopted.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Resolution
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence
The sources and interpretation of the Declaration have been the subject of much scholarly inquiry. The Declaration justified the independence of the United States by listing colonial grievances against King George III, and by asserting certain natural and legal rights, including a right of revolution. Having served its original purpose in announcing independence, references to the text of the Declaration were few in the following years. Abraham Lincoln made it the centerpiece of his rhetoric (as in the Gettysburg Address of 1863), and his policies. Since then, it has become a well-known statement on human rights, particularly its second sentence:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
This has been called “one of the best-known sentences in the English language”,[8] containing “the most potent and consequential words in American history”.[9] The passage came to represent a moral standard to which the United States should strive. This view was notably promoted by Abraham Lincoln, who considered the Declaration to be the foundation of his political philosophy, and argued that the Declaration is a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted.[10]
Happy 4th
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Yes. The USA is pretty nice.
@medz
Seems to have its moments here and there.
@medz It has been, as long as I’ve been around.
@medz yeah, it’s a very nice place…
… an even better place when all the people around me finally run out of fireworks and I can get a good night’s sleep.
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@medz Giphy falls again. However, I do enjoy the “Tears of Unfathomable Sadness” it has posted instead.
The Capitol Steps: Fourth of July Special 2017
If there’s anything both sides can agree on, it’s that we all could use a laugh. Join the Capitol Steps as they poke fun at today’s news with a brand new, one-hour Fourth of July romp. This special program premieres Tuesday, July 4 at 8 p.m. on (your local PBS station).
@OldCatLady
The Youtube link above in the topic into section is the annual NPR journalists’ and commentators’ reading of the Declaration of Independence.
Here are the relevant scenes from the miniseries “John Adams”, starting Paul Giamatti and Laura Linney.
@f00l Only Season 1 is on AMZN Prime, but since I haven’t seen it, I’ll be happy. TCM is also showing a fine selection today, culminating in my favorite, 1776, at 10:15 PM. Right in the middle of The Boston Pops Fireworks on Bloomberg TV and a local broadcast of the fireworks downtown.
@OldCatLady
Do you have access to streaming HBO?
This one is alreading broadcasting, but I hope to catch is on the rebound.
I documentary about the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.
Alexandra Pelosi (daughter of Nancy Pelosi)
got just about everyone to agree to read these docuements.
Including current and past presidents and Veeps, equal numbers of Rep and Dem Members of Congress, Supreme Court Justices, ex- and possibly current- cabinet members, schoolchildren, and a few Hollywood types (she tried to get equal numbers known for being conservative or liberal from Hollywood.)
Everyone she asked agreed. After that, the problem was scheduling.
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/339738-new-alexandra-pelosi-documentary-brings-together-gop-dem
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/the-words-that-built-america/index.html
The documentary is available on-demand from HBO if you have that access.
The Youtube link may be the entire film. I’m not sure.
@f00l I list things to watch on the ‘free HBO’ weeks. It’s the one service I don’t have.
@OldCatLady
I think the *Words That Built America" youtube link above may be the entire documentary.
The John Adams HBO production was a miniseries. So Season 1 is all there is. It seems you may be good to go, for watching all this.
Also, if you sign up for HBO Now, I think they give you a free week. So if there’s something you can binge watch in a week, you can get it free one time. After that, it’s $15 a month*.
*unless you subscribe to ATT for cell service and also to DirecTV’s streaming service. In that cas HBO bundles in for I think $5 a month, and (I think) ATT does not charge you for data streaming HBO on your cell phone data plan? Not sure, but if you cell is ATT, might be worth checking out…
TL;DR is this pro-trump, or pro-rights?
@Yoda_Daenerys
Pro courage.
Pro Age of Enlightment.
Pro reasoned thought and consideration.
Pro civility.
Pro equality.
Pro dignity.
Pro science.
Pro decency.
Pro John Locke.
Pro facts, honesty, honor.
Pro life, library, and the pursuit of happiness, as practiced in a civil manner that respects the freedom and dignity of others.
Anti sophistry.
A small sampling:
@f00l Damned idealists, every one.
@OldCatLady
Admirable and courageous assholes, weren’t they?
And they are still worth the reading, tho it can help to know the history of philosophy up to that time, and that much of their principles argument arose from several factors:
-the burst and dramatic continuing progress and freedom in art, culture, and esp science, that started with the Renaissance;
-the rise of the middle classes, the increasing financial and political influence of free business people, economic free agents, and professionals, unbound to royalty, church, or aristocracy, unbound to traditional serfdom and fealty; and many of these very well educated;
-the religious Reformation, complete with its sects and wars, that made the act of free-thinking among the educated (unmediated and unbent by deflection to church and state), a high cultural ideal.
And there are others. I am no historian. It also doesn’t hurt that this was an age that held personal and intellectual honor and decency in high regard, and the best persons of those generations held to that, or tried to.
(Reading some of them - esp perhaps Kant and Hume - is a bit of work. One doesn’t actually have to slog though all those words to get either the benefit of them or the understanding of them.)
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The declaration may have been approved on the 4th, but it was almost a month later before the majority of the delegates signed it (August 2) making it official. And 5 others signed later and 2 never signed.
And what happened in Nova Scotia? That was the 14th colony but they didn’t join the revolution.
@cengland0
The Founding Fathers tended to believe that the big day was July 2nd, the day Richard Henry Lee’s Resolution of Independence was approved, as is indicated in John Adams letter to Abigail Adams.
I didn’t know about the whole Nova Scotia thing. I must read up.