@zippyus Note that the finding was not that the masks were counterfeit, it’s that the claim of NIOSH certification for the ones marked as N95 with NIOSH labeling was. That marking was counterfeit. These are not those masks. These are marked KN95, which is not a NIOSH certification. Furthermore, neither NIOSH nor any other US governmental agency tests masks for compliance with the KN95 “standard”. (Customs might check for the documentation from China certifying such compliance, but relying on China for compliance issues is historically not all that useful.)
Ergo, these are not in any way the object of a CDC or NIOSH official sanction. NIOSH took no position on KN95 masks. CDC issued many cautions about potentially unreliable designations, but had neither the mandate nor the power to take action against any that came to their direct attention.
Precisely as it was back in 2020/2021, the choice of whether to accept the assurances of the mask manufacturers and sellers is left entirely to the buyer. Makle your own decision and act accordingly,
Expiration date Sept 2022 combined with what @zippyus said, @Meh, this is pretty bad. You all really need the money that badly? I get it. I know, this is America and suckers are born blah blah blah but this strikes me as pathetic.
@talv0002 Multiple sources have reported testing results that found no significant degradation in typical individually-sealed or small-quantity sealed packs of KN95 masks that were already past their expiration dates. Bulk? Probably lost effectiveness before they reached their best-by dates. These were not bulk-packed. You can Google it if you really want to know, but engage filters hard because there’s a lot of pseudoscience and factless noise getting loud support from people with agendas.
@werehatrack (silly me, I replied to entire thread vs the post to which I had meant to reply. So, fixed that now, I hope). Thanks for your reply. And to clarify, no hidden agenda on my part. Not sure if you were trying to insinuate such, so thought I’d clarify just in case. Cheers. Have a great night!
@talv0002 So much has been said about the alleged irrelevance (or applicability) of best-by dates that I thought it was worth mentioning that this time, the importance can be measured and demonstrated. But for anyone trying to find the info that I dug up early this year, it’s important to be careful to distinguish between signal and noise. There is a lot of noise.
“colds”
A little googling shows this manufacturer had their license yanked by the FDA in 2021. And these masks were made around then, so … who’s feelin lucky?
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/usernotices/counterfeitResp.html
@zippyus Note that the finding was not that the masks were counterfeit, it’s that the claim of NIOSH certification for the ones marked as N95 with NIOSH labeling was. That marking was counterfeit. These are not those masks. These are marked KN95, which is not a NIOSH certification. Furthermore, neither NIOSH nor any other US governmental agency tests masks for compliance with the KN95 “standard”. (Customs might check for the documentation from China certifying such compliance, but relying on China for compliance issues is historically not all that useful.)
Ergo, these are not in any way the object of a CDC or NIOSH official sanction. NIOSH took no position on KN95 masks. CDC issued many cautions about potentially unreliable designations, but had neither the mandate nor the power to take action against any that came to their direct attention.
Precisely as it was back in 2020/2021, the choice of whether to accept the assurances of the mask manufacturers and sellers is left entirely to the buyer. Makle your own decision and act accordingly,
Expiration date Sept 2022 combined with what @zippyus said, @Meh, this is pretty bad. You all really need the money that badly? I get it. I know, this is America and suckers are born blah blah blah but this strikes me as pathetic.
@talv0002 Multiple sources have reported testing results that found no significant degradation in typical individually-sealed or small-quantity sealed packs of KN95 masks that were already past their expiration dates. Bulk? Probably lost effectiveness before they reached their best-by dates. These were not bulk-packed. You can Google it if you really want to know, but engage filters hard because there’s a lot of pseudoscience and factless noise getting loud support from people with agendas.
@werehatrack (silly me, I replied to entire thread vs the post to which I had meant to reply. So, fixed that now, I hope). Thanks for your reply. And to clarify, no hidden agenda on my part. Not sure if you were trying to insinuate such, so thought I’d clarify just in case. Cheers. Have a great night!
@talv0002 So much has been said about the alleged irrelevance (or applicability) of best-by dates that I thought it was worth mentioning that this time, the importance can be measured and demonstrated. But for anyone trying to find the info that I dug up early this year, it’s important to be careful to distinguish between signal and noise. There is a lot of noise.
Specs
Product: 60-Pack: KN-95 Non-Medical Respirator Face Masks
Model: KNN90043
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
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Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Oct 2 - Tuesday, Oct 3
I still have more than I need.
Better load up before Fauci and Biden give us Covid Lockdown 2.0 in 4Q 2023 and through 2024. Can then sell these for $5 each on eBay.