@thechinglish Remember when you were a kid, and your older siblings/cousins/uncles would tell you not to eat the watermelon seeds because you’d have vines growing out of your ears? Yeah, those.
@ravenblack It’s the more than slightly unsupportable implication that being “plant based” is inherently “good” that is being ridiculed; “plant based” can include vast numbers of things that are factually very bad for you. “Cellulose gum” is “plant based”, as are a number of other non-nutritive food additives employed to bulk up products, as just one tiny class of offending article. And don’t get me started on the exotic grass gluten proteins in modern “wheat”.
@werehatrack Where was it implied that it’s good? Just because it’s being mentioned and you wouldn’t describe your product as bad? Maybe it’s just being described factually, because it’s ‘good’ for people who want that attribute in a product. When you start complaining about any product being sold as a torx screwdriver because torx isn’t necessarily good, let me know.
@ravenblack Had you been around in the era when Torx was just starting to show up in new cars, you would have heard the loud complaints from more than just the mechanics about its existence. Loads of people still despise it, often with good reason when it is used where it truly isn’t needed. Phillips was widely reviled when it was introduced, too, with less cause.
@werehatrack Yes, I realize torx sucks, that was the point. You don’t knee-jerk say “torx is stupid though” every time someone offers a torx screwdriver for sale, but for some reason you do for “plant-based”.
(I had written it as Phillips at first, but revised it to torx for wider acceptance of the fact that it sucks.)
@ravenblack Oh, trust me, there are people who hate Phillips even more than Torx now, partially due to the idiots who made hot-dip-galvanized Phillips deck screws about a decade back, but aggravated by the number of absolute-crap Phillips bits foisted off via the various subbasement-priced HyperToughCheap brands. Anything touted prominently as a Feature when it’s not even an advantage will get ridiculed by those of us who are tired of hype in general, and this brand has at least as much of that on display as the vast majority of their competitors. I guess they need the hype to cover for the overall lack of appeal of the product itself. Truly good stuff doesn’t need hype. Truly good stuff goes to a sellout here, more often than not, assuming it wasn’t such a small batch that it would have sold out during a 'Thon. No danger of that for this listing.
@brasscupcakes@werehatrack Yeah, that’s what I was getting at - meh sells out of “good” products, but it’s possible to have a product that is “good” within a niche, that doesn’t sell well because the niche is small. I don’t know if this product is that (I got some last time, and got some again this time, because it’s okay and the price is right), but “plant-based” in general is a niche appeal. (Much like torx screwdrivers, where the niche is “people who grudgingly have to use a torx screwdriver because some bastard put torx screws in something they need to disassemble.”)
Though I wouldn’t say plant-based is only useful for ‘ethical’ vegfolk - it’s useful for health-vegfolk or other-reason vegfolk or lactose-intolerants or egg-allergics too, as a shortcut. “Plant-based” for sure doesn’t mean the product is healthy, but it does mean you can skip to judging that (or not caring about that) without first having to determine whether the product fits your other constraints.
@bugger The bad reviews mostly seem to be from people used to whey protein powders complaining that this plant-based protein powder doesn’t taste as good as whey.
Plant-based protein powders generally aren’t as smooth or easily palatable as whey powders.
I might be interested if this was a pre-workout drink because I could just keep procrastinating and tell people I was going to eventually work out and they’d be impressed with my ambition.
@tweezak Kind of like carrying around a PBR so that it looks like you’re having a brewski when you’re planning to just dump it unprocessed before you leave. Zero regrets on both counts.
Working through the packs I bought last time it came around. I wouldn’t say the taste is awful. I mix it with almond milk and it’s fine. However it just doesn’t mix well. It has chunks you gotta chew unless you use an actual blender. For protein in smoothies it isn’t bad. But for standard day to day in a cup? I’d pass.
@justdrooit That results should not be that surprising. Animal-based protein sources provide complete proteins by themselves, while plant-based protein sources typically need amino acids from another source to complete the protein. I don’t know why the DGA would overlook this, though I’ve never read the DGA and it’s possible that this equivalency reading is missing context.
I would be much more interested in a comparison between 1 ounce of meat versus some quantity of kidney beans mixed with rice.
@Kidsandliz Results vary. I’ve had good and mediocre samples handed to me. None were all the way to “eww”, unlike a lot of these you-must-suffer-for-your-muscles “fitness” products.
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Product: 6-Pack: Performix Plant-Based Protein Powder in Vanilla Oat
Model: 420018
Condition: New
io Processed Plant Protein Blend (Pea Protein, Organic Sunflower Protein, Organic Pumpkin Seed Protein, Watermelon Seed Protein), Clean Cream (high oleic sunflower oil, modified food starch [tapioca]), tapioca maltodextrin, Natural Flavor, Contains 2% or less of each of the following: Silicon Dioxide, Mixed Tocopherols, Natural Flavors, Salt, Guar Gum, Stevia Leaf Extract [Rebaudioside A], Monk Fruit Extract
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$143.94 for 6 on Amazon
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Icky. No thanks.
Sawdust edibles.
Hold on
The fuck is a water seed
@thechinglish Remember when you were a kid, and your older siblings/cousins/uncles would tell you not to eat the watermelon seeds because you’d have vines growing out of your ears? Yeah, those.
Water seed = raindrop?
Feed them there plants
to the cows
so I can have me a big fat juicy STEAK!! 
/giphy carnivore

@IndifferentDude Plants are what food eats.
“Plant based”. You mean like hemlock, nightshade, and cyanide?
@phendrick Don’t forget foxglove!
@phendrick Why does the term “plant-based” offend you, that you feel you must attack it?
@ravenblack It’s the more than slightly unsupportable implication that being “plant based” is inherently “good” that is being ridiculed; “plant based” can include vast numbers of things that are factually very bad for you. “Cellulose gum” is “plant based”, as are a number of other non-nutritive food additives employed to bulk up products, as just one tiny class of offending article. And don’t get me started on the exotic grass gluten proteins in modern “wheat”.
@werehatrack Where was it implied that it’s good? Just because it’s being mentioned and you wouldn’t describe your product as bad? Maybe it’s just being described factually, because it’s ‘good’ for people who want that attribute in a product. When you start complaining about any product being sold as a torx screwdriver because torx isn’t necessarily good, let me know.
@ravenblack Had you been around in the era when Torx was just starting to show up in new cars, you would have heard the loud complaints from more than just the mechanics about its existence. Loads of people still despise it, often with good reason when it is used where it truly isn’t needed. Phillips was widely reviled when it was introduced, too, with less cause.
@werehatrack Yes, I realize torx sucks, that was the point. You don’t knee-jerk say “torx is stupid though” every time someone offers a torx screwdriver for sale, but for some reason you do for “plant-based”.
(I had written it as Phillips at first, but revised it to torx for wider acceptance of the fact that it sucks.)
@ravenblack Oh, trust me, there are people who hate Phillips even more than Torx now, partially due to the idiots who made hot-dip-galvanized Phillips deck screws about a decade back, but aggravated by the number of absolute-crap Phillips bits foisted off via the various subbasement-priced Hyper
ToughCheap brands. Anything touted prominently as a Feature when it’s not even an advantage will get ridiculed by those of us who are tired of hype in general, and this brand has at least as much of that on display as the vast majority of their competitors. I guess they need the hype to cover for the overall lack of appeal of the product itself. Truly good stuff doesn’t need hype. Truly good stuff goes to a sellout here, more often than not, assuming it wasn’t such a small batch that it would have sold out during a 'Thon. No danger of that for this listing.@phendrick the term plant-based is very useful for ethical vegetarians/vegans … not so much for people who want to eat healthy.
@brasscupcakes @phendrick It says so little about the actual nutritional value of the contents…
@brasscupcakes @werehatrack Yeah, that’s what I was getting at - meh sells out of “good” products, but it’s possible to have a product that is “good” within a niche, that doesn’t sell well because the niche is small. I don’t know if this product is that (I got some last time, and got some again this time, because it’s okay and the price is right), but “plant-based” in general is a niche appeal. (Much like torx screwdrivers, where the niche is “people who grudgingly have to use a torx screwdriver because some bastard put torx screws in something they need to disassemble.”)
Though I wouldn’t say plant-based is only useful for ‘ethical’ vegfolk - it’s useful for health-vegfolk or other-reason vegfolk or lactose-intolerants or egg-allergics too, as a shortcut. “Plant-based” for sure doesn’t mean the product is healthy, but it does mean you can skip to judging that (or not caring about that) without first having to determine whether the product fits your other constraints.
Mac and Cheese compatible?
@somf69
Not if you actually like mac and cheese.
@somf69 @werehatrack you could put the mac and cheese in the blender with this stuff …
ew
@somf69 @stolicat This sounds like it’s devolving into something that’s just going to get worse…
The bad reviews on this from A is really really bad. So it’s a nope for me
@bugger The bad reviews mostly seem to be from people used to whey protein powders complaining that this plant-based protein powder doesn’t taste as good as whey.
Plant-based protein powders generally aren’t as smooth or easily palatable as whey powders.
Tons of sodium!
@CatsAreGods you mean sodiYUM!
@CatsAreGods @Pufferfishy Possibly the best thing about it.
“Can it make margaritas: there’s no marg buzz in the world that feels as good as that post-workout high, bruh”
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
@alacrity Dude, that’s no challenge, it’s a gimme six inches from the cup!
OTOH, any excuse to make margs is probably an adequate excuse…
Good write-up, but I’m still not buying this.
I really want protein powder on meh! But sadly the reviews on this company make it a no.
took a chance and bought this last time and the flavor was horrible, gag inducing. Meh
@billymayfield I don’t get how the description says tastes like oats when no oats in ingredient list.
(but the safflower oil automatically makes it a “no” for me).
I might be interested if this was a pre-workout drink because I could just keep procrastinating and tell people I was going to eventually work out and they’d be impressed with my ambition.
@tweezak Kind of like carrying around a PBR so that it looks like you’re having a brewski when you’re planning to just dump it unprocessed before you leave. Zero regrets on both counts.
@werehatrack You could offer it to a homeless person only to have him give you an obviously offended look and say: “thanks but no thanks, man”
I bet it wouldn’t be yuck if it was blended into a pint of Blue Bell Pralines ‘n’ Cream.
@ElleBeaux Why ruin perfectly good Blue Bell?
…goes great with loaded nachos
@Pufferfishy Nachos loaded with BB Pralines 'n Cream? Not even in College Station on a Monday night when everything closed early.
Lol, NO WAY. Bought junk like this before and it was so bad as to be 100% undrinkable, and I have drank some truly indigestible garbage before.
@midnightplatinu So you’re saying this is a great gift?
PETP does not approve.
@OnionSoup People Eating Tasty Plants found it Not Tasty.
Everything about this say “I taste terrible”
@Pufferfishy Soylent Green doesn’t want people with good taste…
Working through the packs I bought last time it came around. I wouldn’t say the taste is awful. I mix it with almond milk and it’s fine. However it just doesn’t mix well. It has chunks you gotta chew unless you use an actual blender. For protein in smoothies it isn’t bad. But for standard day to day in a cup? I’d pass.
I know everyone wants to believe plant-based is so much better for you.
I’m sorry, it simply isn’t, especially when it comes to protein.
Can’t wait for some of this plant-based craze to start tempering back down to reality.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210623/Animal-and-plant-based-protein-rich-foods-are-not-metabolically-equivalent-finds-study.aspx
@justdrooit I think you’re preaching to the choir in this particular room.
Really, the main constituency for plant based as a descriptor are ethical vegetarians and for them, it’s actually useful.
@justdrooit That results should not be that surprising. Animal-based protein sources provide complete proteins by themselves, while plant-based protein sources typically need amino acids from another source to complete the protein. I don’t know why the DGA would overlook this, though I’ve never read the DGA and it’s possible that this equivalency reading is missing context.
I would be much more interested in a comparison between 1 ounce of meat versus some quantity of kidney beans mixed with rice.
I’d rather drink powdered freeze dried ice cream… That should taste so much better. Add cold milk or cold water and good to go.
@Kidsandliz Results vary. I’ve had good and mediocre samples handed to me. None were all the way to “eww”, unlike a lot of these you-must-suffer-for-your-muscles “fitness” products.
@werehatrack Well given a choice I’d make a “real” milkshake any day.
I used the link to amazon to get this.
I wonder if it would be good in waffles/chaffles
@sling_Shot70 Possible to conceal? Probably. Improve the palatability of the waffle vs not adding it? Doubtful.
/giphy brackish-minute-dracula

Where the nutritional label be at with the breakdowns and whatnot?
@SputnikHQ
check out the image three posts above yours, from sling_Shot70.
Protein from watermelon seeds? You mean for 70 years I’ve been spitting out all that good plant based protein?
And instead I’ve, been getting my protein from burgers and Ribeye steak…oh the horror!!