@ravenblack It’s the more than slightly unsupportable implication that being “plant based” is inherently “good” that is being ridiculed; “plant based” can include vast numbers of things that are factually very bad for you. “Cellulose gum” is “plant based”, as are a number of other non-nutritive food additives employed to bulk up products, as just one tiny class of offending article. And don’t get me started on the exotic grass gluten proteins in modern “wheat”.
@werehatrack Where was it implied that it’s good? Just because it’s being mentioned and you wouldn’t describe your product as bad? Maybe it’s just being described factually, because it’s ‘good’ for people who want that attribute in a product. When you start complaining about any product being sold as a torx screwdriver because torx isn’t necessarily good, let me know.
@ravenblack Had you been around in the era when Torx was just starting to show up in new cars, you would have heard the loud complaints from more than just the mechanics about its existence. Loads of people still despise it, often with good reason when it is used where it truly isn’t needed. Phillips was widely reviled when it was introduced, too, with less cause.
@werehatrack Yes, I realize torx sucks, that was the point. You don’t knee-jerk say “torx is stupid though” every time someone offers a torx screwdriver for sale, but for some reason you do for “plant-based”.
(I had written it as Phillips at first, but revised it to torx for wider acceptance of the fact that it sucks.)
@ravenblack Oh, trust me, there are people who hate Phillips even more than Torx now, partially due to the idiots who made hot-dip-galvanized Phillips deck screws about a decade back, but aggravated by the number of absolute-crap Phillips bits foisted off via the various subbasement-priced HyperToughCheap brands. Anything touted prominently as a Feature when it’s not even an advantage will get ridiculed by those of us who are tired of hype in general, and this brand has at least as much of that on display as the vast majority of their competitors. I guess they need the hype to cover for the overall lack of appeal of the product itself. Truly good stuff doesn’t need hype. Truly good stuff goes to a sellout here, more often than not, assuming it wasn’t such a small batch that it would have sold out during a 'Thon. No danger of that for this listing.
@brasscupcakes@werehatrack Yeah, that’s what I was getting at - meh sells out of “good” products, but it’s possible to have a product that is “good” within a niche, that doesn’t sell well because the niche is small. I don’t know if this product is that (I got some last time, and got some again this time, because it’s okay and the price is right), but “plant-based” in general is a niche appeal. (Much like torx screwdrivers, where the niche is “people who grudgingly have to use a torx screwdriver because some bastard put torx screws in something they need to disassemble.”)
Though I wouldn’t say plant-based is only useful for ‘ethical’ vegfolk - it’s useful for health-vegfolk or other-reason vegfolk or lactose-intolerants or egg-allergics too, as a shortcut. “Plant-based” for sure doesn’t mean the product is healthy, but it does mean you can skip to judging that (or not caring about that) without first having to determine whether the product fits your other constraints.
@bugger The bad reviews mostly seem to be from people used to whey protein powders complaining that this plant-based protein powder doesn’t taste as good as whey.
Plant-based protein powders generally aren’t as smooth or easily palatable as whey powders.
Working through the packs I bought last time it came around. I wouldn’t say the taste is awful. I mix it with almond milk and it’s fine. However it just doesn’t mix well. It has chunks you gotta chew unless you use an actual blender. For protein in smoothies it isn’t bad. But for standard day to day in a cup? I’d pass.
@justdrooit That results should not be that surprising. Animal-based protein sources provide complete proteins by themselves, while plant-based protein sources typically need amino acids from another source to complete the protein. I don’t know why the DGA would overlook this, though I’ve never read the DGA and it’s possible that this equivalency reading is missing context.
I would be much more interested in a comparison between 1 ounce of meat versus some quantity of kidney beans mixed with rice.