@awk@lljk I just checked a package of ramen I have and it’s 85g, same size as a pack of ol Maruchan. This is 57g, which is almost exactly 2/3rd the size of it.
I guess my concept of a “regular” packet is skewed by Korean noodles that all seem to be around 5oz.
But I looked up the nutrition info for Maruchan noodles and they have an eye-popping (literally?) amount of sodium, like 1700mg in one little bag. So doing the math, what Meh is selling tonight has about 40% less sodium per oz.
@awk@krmtdfrog@lljk the difference I’m assuming is that these will have the more robust flavor from the broth packet a la sipping soup vs a bone broth. But maybe a good thing (oof almost typed a hood thing) if it is too bland like you added too much water you can adjust by adding kimchi, cheese, frozen seafood, soy sauce, hell spam and real veggies as well. I’d boil the noods on the side though and gordo ramsey the broth first to my liking - if they are “fresh” you could even throw in the noods last to tender while you boil down the broth.
Reading onward may give these a chance since my daughter loves buckwheat noods.
@awk@Lynnerizer I have to admit I saw it as “marital” also. And was afraid of what the giphy might reveal. Fortunately just good ol’ Iowa conservative corn, in the husk even.
@awk@djslack@sammydog01 Y’all found something I’d forgotten to look at! Thank you.
When I saw how much sodium was in these “low sodium” packs, I was shocked… until I compared to what we have in our pantry. (pack-for-pack it’s roughly ⅓-½)
But now, with this new revelation… it makes more sense. Numbers from my house:
regular (Maruchan) ramen noodles are 3 ounces each.
potato ramen noodles are 4¼ ounces each.
Meh’s koyo ramen noodles are just 2 ounces each.
Still a good option, if everything else lines up for you… but many (most?) people will find themselves eating two packs to get the same fix. That’s still less sodium, but not by much.
To make my comment above make sense - there was an issue with units of sodium that has since been fixed. Awk was right all along, just missing a few prefixes. The math is all mathing properly now.
@djslack Why why did we not go to the metric system like was promised to me in school in the 1970s? It seems just silly that we are now talking about how many grams (well, milli-grams we hope) of sodium in how many ounces of noods. It’s been 50 years but now we are just an old decrepit country stuck in our ways and not wanting to listen to reason. And especially not that banned word, “science.”
@djslack@pmarin I do know the answer to that: In the 1980s a certain president reversed it. Maybe it wasn’t American enough. The beverage industry already retooled, though, and wasn’t going back. I mean, when was the last time you bought a quart or half gallon bottle of Coke?
@pmarin@southpaw I do think it’s sneaking in but those of us who went through the system in years past are frozen in time. Much like the best music is pretty much what we had in high school, the best rulers are based on some king’s foot.
But every once in a while I will hear someone younger say something like “it’s about a centimeter” or “a couple of centimeters” that makes me think they have internalized the metric system on some level.
Oh, and I had a Google this morning. In Canada and the UK a footlong is a footlong. In Mexico, Romania, and Poland, it’s a 30cm.
@djslack@southpaw To the thing about “young people” wanting to use metric more, I think part of it is the good/evil of social media like Instagram and TikTok. Many people are looking at videos of cooking and other things using the metric system, and wondering how to work with grams or cm or what a 100 degree C oven means. And they are starting to ask why we don’t use the same system as pretty much the rest of the world including all the other cool young people in other countries.
@pmarin There’s a YouTuber in Australia who refers to measurements in Imperial as being in “bananas”. Since he has a machine shop that does very complex repairs on heavy equipment, he has to deal with both systems, and you can tell that he really prefers metric.
But every once in a while I will hear someone younger say something like “it’s about a centimeter” or “a couple of centimeters” that makes me think they have internalized the metric system on some level.
Well, that doesn’t guarantee they really have any clue what they’re talking about.
The only young people I interact with much are my own kids—not representative of the entire population—but I have little hope for the future. They are frequently orders of magnitude off in their estimates of things. Possibly just trashy estimating skills, but they also don’t seem to really grasp that there are actually different systems of measuring things, and that “how many feet in a meter” is rarely the question he should be asking.
But at least it’s been several years since he guessed that a wall was “about an acre tall.”
I’ve had these, I thought they were pretty good, but ramen does start to taste stale faster than some other things. I’m not sure I’d get them eaten before then.
@Kyeh yep, I hate to admit I’m still working on my Buldak stores but so far they are still quite good. I don’t need to add another ramen stockpile (though if they were cheesy spicy Buldak I might be more tempted).
For those interested, just wanted to point out that these are “Product of China” as seen on the back label on one of the packages.
I’m not going to jump on the whole political outrage-machine that is saying “everything china==bad” but on the other hand for food products, I do try to avoid it. To me the quality noodle products I’d trust will come from Japan or Korea, sodium content notwithstanding. I just generally will try to avoid the processed foods from China.
@pmarin@radi0j0hn The number of tainted dog treats and dog and cat food items made in (or using ingredients from) China also serves as a cautionary flag.
@pmarin On the other hand, buying one’s food from communist China might be the best way to go above and beyond the Recommended Daily Requirement of lead (Pb) in one’s diet.
Hah – I looked at the three flavors and figured I knew which one I wanted… and so wasn’t surprised to see the breakdown of the purchase options. Unfortunately I suspect I agree with the consumers who apparently bought most of the shiitake mushroom and none of the tofu miso from this supply of ramen. (But then, that’s probably the reason it found its way to Meh at all!)
FWIW, my teenager loves these. And they’re vegetarian, which is really hard to find. But they are definitely a lot smaller than “normal” ramen packets, and therefore obviously less filling.
@mamajoan This is not necessarily a bad thing, if what you intend to do is augment it by adding veg and/or meat, which I often do. But I have a ton of local sources for ramen and other Asian noodles, so there’s no need for me to grab these.
Specs
Product: 48-Pack: Koyo Ramen Noodles
Condition: New
Tofu Miso:
Buckwheat Shoyu:
Shiitake Mushroom (available in variety pack only):
What’s Included?
OR
OR
Price Comparison
$67-$112 (for 48) at Amazon:
Buckwheat Shoyu
Shiitake Mushroom
Tofu Miso
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Nov 27 - Tuesday, Nov 28
So this is merely “yes” sodium instead of “very yes”?
@lljk Looking at the nutrition label, it’s around a third of the sodium of an average ramen packet
@krmtdfrog @lljk But note that these packets are 2/5 the size of a regular ramen packet.
@awk @lljk I just checked a package of ramen I have and it’s 85g, same size as a pack of ol Maruchan. This is 57g, which is almost exactly 2/3rd the size of it.
@krmtdfrog @lljk
I guess my concept of a “regular” packet is skewed by Korean noodles that all seem to be around 5oz.
But I looked up the nutrition info for Maruchan noodles and they have an eye-popping (literally?) amount of sodium, like 1700mg in one little bag. So doing the math, what Meh is selling tonight has about 40% less sodium per oz.
@awk @krmtdfrog @lljk the difference I’m assuming is that these will have the more robust flavor from the broth packet a la sipping soup vs a bone broth. But maybe a good thing (oof almost typed a hood thing) if it is too bland like you added too much water you can adjust by adding kimchi, cheese, frozen seafood, soy sauce, hell spam and real veggies as well. I’d boil the noods on the side though and gordo ramsey the broth first to my liking - if they are “fresh” you could even throw in the noods last to tender while you boil down the broth.
Reading onward may give these a chance since my daughter loves buckwheat noods.
I JUST finished the Buldak noodles last week. Dare I? Will my hubris get me in trouble with the wife yet again?
@mikesmells with any luck, you’ve been using half packets of spicy and have a few dozen spicy packets left for these noods![:-)](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f642.png)
/showme unhappy-martial-corn
@awk![:thinking:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f914.png)
I KNEW IT, THOSE DARN THREESOMES NEVER WORK OUT! Lol ![:joy:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png)
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At first glance I read show me unhappy-MARITAL-corn. I’m thinking…
@awk @Lynnerizer
Not a believer in polyamory, huh?
@awk @Lynnerizer I have to admit I saw it as “marital” also. And was afraid of what the giphy might reveal. Fortunately just good ol’ Iowa conservative corn, in the husk even.
@awk @Kyeh![:joy:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f602.png)
Lol ![:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f61c.png)
Well not for me anyway!
Have you seen the reality show Sister Wives, it’s not working out for them lately either!
Edited to say I might watch! 🫣![:upside_down:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f643.png)
@awk @Lynnerizer
I don’t watch it but my newsfeed has been telling me that they’re breaking up. It wouldn’t be for me either.
@awk @Kyeh
or is it 28) Those poor kids… ![:pleading_face:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f97a.png)
Yeah I think he’s down to 1 wife now. And let’s not forget his 18 kids! (
@awk @Lynnerizer Oh, wow - I didn’t know that! Does he manage to support those kids?
@awk @Kyeh @Lynnerizer “Crop rotations”?
Very tempted!
@Perkalicious how many did you calculate?, my math brain isn’t awake yet
Doin’ some nu(trition) math:
the Buldak noodles have 1920mg of sodium in 145g of product: 13.2mg sodium per gram of product
these have 650mg/57g, 740mg/60g, and 730mg/57g, depending on the flavor, which averages out to 12.2mg sodium per gram of product
So these only have about 8% less sodium than the Buldak on average. The mushroom flavor is barely 3% less.
@awk I believe in the concept but either the math isn’t mathing here somehow or these things cook up like salt domes.
/giphy carry the one
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@djslack Oops, my bad, it should be mg of sodium… The comparisons still come out the same at the end though.
@awk that was the concept I believed in… I got you!
@awk @djslack I didn’t realize these are smaller than the cups of the other stuff they sold. I just cancelled my order.
@awk @djslack @sammydog01 Y’all found something I’d forgotten to look at! Thank you.
When I saw how much sodium was in these “low sodium” packs, I was shocked… until I compared to what we have in our pantry. (pack-for-pack it’s roughly ⅓-½)
But now, with this new revelation… it makes more sense. Numbers from my house:
Still a good option, if everything else lines up for you… but many (most?) people will find themselves eating two packs to get the same fix. That’s still less sodium, but not by much.
To make my comment above make sense - there was an issue with units of sodium that has since been fixed. Awk was right all along, just missing a few prefixes. The math is all mathing properly now.
@djslack Why why did we not go to the metric system like was promised to me in school in the 1970s? It seems just silly that we are now talking about how many grams (well, milli-grams we hope) of sodium in how many ounces of noods. It’s been 50 years but now we are just an old decrepit country stuck in our ways and not wanting to listen to reason. And especially not that banned word, “science.”
@pmarin I don’t know the answer to that. But it made me wonder: in Europe does Subway sell 15cm and 30cm sandwiches?
@djslack @pmarin I do know the answer to that: In the 1980s a certain president reversed it. Maybe it wasn’t American enough. The beverage industry already retooled, though, and wasn’t going back. I mean, when was the last time you bought a quart or half gallon bottle of Coke?
@pmarin @southpaw I do think it’s sneaking in but those of us who went through the system in years past are frozen in time. Much like the best music is pretty much what we had in high school, the best rulers are based on some king’s foot.
But every once in a while I will hear someone younger say something like “it’s about a centimeter” or “a couple of centimeters” that makes me think they have internalized the metric system on some level.
Oh, and I had a Google this morning. In Canada and the UK a footlong is a footlong. In Mexico, Romania, and Poland, it’s a 30cm.
diecisiete, diecisiete pesos 30cm lago
@mybluemake ITYM largo.
@djslack @southpaw To the thing about “young people” wanting to use metric more, I think part of it is the good/evil of social media like Instagram and TikTok. Many people are looking at videos of cooking and other things using the metric system, and wondering how to work with grams or cm or what a 100 degree C oven means. And they are starting to ask why we don’t use the same system as pretty much the rest of the world including all the other cool young people in other countries.
@pmarin There’s a YouTuber in Australia who refers to measurements in Imperial as being in “bananas”. Since he has a machine shop that does very complex repairs on heavy equipment, he has to deal with both systems, and you can tell that he really prefers metric.
@werehatrack Well if you bring in the term “Imperial,” then you have to note the distinction between an Imperial Pint and a U.S. Pint.
Been a long time since I was in the U.K., so I don’t know what beer is measured in now.
@djslack @pmarin @southpaw
Well, that doesn’t guarantee they really have any clue what they’re talking about.
The only young people I interact with much are my own kids—not representative of the entire population—but I have little hope for the future. They are frequently orders of magnitude off in their estimates of things. Possibly just trashy estimating skills, but they also don’t seem to really grasp that there are actually different systems of measuring things, and that “how many feet in a meter” is rarely the question he should be asking.
But at least it’s been several years since he guessed that a wall was “about an acre tall.”
TV Land Fav:
Everybody Loves Ramen.
@pcolachiller
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NOPE, NOT EVERYONE!
I’ve had these, I thought they were pretty good, but ramen does start to taste stale faster than some other things. I’m not sure I’d get them eaten before then.
@Kyeh yep, I hate to admit I’m still working on my Buldak stores but so far they are still quite good. I don’t need to add another ramen stockpile (though if they were cheesy spicy Buldak I might be more tempted).
For those interested, just wanted to point out that these are “Product of China” as seen on the back label on one of the packages.
I’m not going to jump on the whole political outrage-machine that is saying “everything china==bad” but on the other hand for food products, I do try to avoid it. To me the quality noodle products I’d trust will come from Japan or Korea, sodium content notwithstanding. I just generally will try to avoid the processed foods from China.
@pmarin Indonesia and Thailand make some really tasty noods, too. Many of those are rice noods.
@pmarin Based on two tainted food experiences requiring medical intervention, I tell you “Don’t put anything in your mouth that is made in China.”
@pmarin @radi0j0hn The number of tainted dog treats and dog and cat food items made in (or using ingredients from) China also serves as a cautionary flag.
@pmarin On the other hand, buying one’s food from communist China might be the best way to go above and beyond the Recommended Daily Requirement of lead (Pb) in one’s diet.
Hah – I looked at the three flavors and figured I knew which one I wanted… and so wasn’t surprised to see the breakdown of the purchase options. Unfortunately I suspect I agree with the consumers who apparently bought most of the shiitake mushroom and none of the tofu miso from this supply of ramen. (But then, that’s probably the reason it found its way to Meh at all!)
/giphy buckwheat
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FWIW, my teenager loves these. And they’re vegetarian, which is really hard to find. But they are definitely a lot smaller than “normal” ramen packets, and therefore obviously less filling.
@mamajoan This is not necessarily a bad thing, if what you intend to do is augment it by adding veg and/or meat, which I often do. But I have a ton of local sources for ramen and other Asian noodles, so there’s no need for me to grab these.
1 package =about a third of your daily recommended salt intake.
@radi0j0hn Which isn’t bad, unless you eat more than 3 meals a day and/or a lot of salty snacks
@radi0j0hn @troy It’s practically un-American to not exceed your recommended salt intake.
@radi0j0hn @sammydog01 @troy
Recommended sodium intake - less than 2,300 mg per day
Slice of pizza - 600 to 1500 mg of sodium
Big Mac - 1,007 mg - of sodium
Wendy’s Breakfast Sandwich - between 650 and 1,500 mg of sodium
Personally I love salt …![:smirk:](https://dj5zo597wtsux.cloudfront.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f60f.png)
So, what is this - another pasta drop?
@rpstrong Nah. Just a reasonable deal on some ramen. If the claims on the package are accurate, they’re better noods than usual, for what it’s worth