Product: 4-Pack: ELLE Café Whole Bean Coffee
Model: 810144967196, 810144967202
Condition: New
Available in 4x French Roast, 4x Espresso Roast, or 2x French Roast + 2x Espresso Roast bean bags
Expiration Date: 2/1/2027
ELLE French Roast Whole Bean
An all-time classic, full-bodied, and complex Latin blend, characterized by a balanced smoky-sweet flavour. Its intense roasting aroma is enhanced with sweet and spicy notes.
Roast: Medium (Darker) Roast
Tasting Notes: Hazelnut, caramel & spice
Extended tasting notes: Aromas of caramel, hazelnut and spices prevail, enhancing its intensity.
Origin: Colombia, Nicaragua, Brazil
Size: 12oz
ELLE Espresso Roast Whole Bean
Sophisticated notes of dried fruit and dark chocolate, elevating your coffee ritual to new heights of indulgence.
Roast: Dark Roast
Tasting Notes: dried fruit and dark chocolate
Extended tasting notes: Sophisticated notes of dried fruit and dark chocolate, elevating your coffee ritual to new heights of indulgence.
Origin: Colombia, Nicaragua, Brazil
Size: 12oz
What’s Included?
4-Pack: 4-Pack: ELLE Café Whole Bean Coffee In Your choice of Flavor
@Kidsandliz I have no file on this brand, nor knowledge of when it was roasted. I do see it’s from three different countries so it could be from 10 different farms (or more). It’s a super blend of who knows what. I prefer roasting single estate beans. I rarely do blends. This might be fine, it just depends on how you like your coffee. If you are a cream and sugar person this would probably be a good purchase for the price. If you drink it black like I do, I’m not sure what the results will be here. Who knows… could be fine.
I hope you enjoyed this completely vague and non-informational recommendation.
@capnjb@Kidsandliz You roast your beans at home DIY style? Heard it can be unsafe cause of the fumes it gives off but if you have a good source of info on how to learn please share
@capnjb@Kidsandliz@v3ctorman
My brother-in-law occasionally roasted indoors on cast iron but usually does it outdoors on deck or front porch. In my opinion we have a lot more things to be fearful of than fine roasted coffee smells. Formaldehyde from carpets. Lead in old paint. Radon underground is coming to get you in some areas. Atomic bombs from Russia when we learned to duck and cover in school in the 1970s, before they became today’s active shooter drills.
If it’s death by fine coffee smells, sign me up!
@Kidsandliz@v3ctorman Heh, I’ve been roasting for years. I do roast outside because the roast tends to smoke towards the end. I’ve got two roasters that were well more than a car payment I’ve sent beans to 25+ people here and to my knowledge, everyone is still alive
I use a Genecafe… it does about a half pound at a time. I also have a Behmor roaster that can do a full pound. But its control board is getting a little wonky so it’s mostly the Genecafe these days. Here is a link to a wonderful little shop I buy from all the time. They have many choices for roasters.
@capnjb@pmarin@v3ctorman The real question is if you roast chocolate beans do you get outstanding hot chocolate? Or can you them melt them into a mold and get even better chocolate candy bars. The heck with coffee.
@Kidsandliz@pmarin@v3ctorman I’ve never tried to process cacao seeds but it’s much different of a process then processing coffee. Cacao is (from what I understand) fermented for many days and coffee seeds are separated from the cherries and washed and dried in the sun on big concrete slabs. I am no expert on the coffee process, but I’ve done some research I’m kind of the middle man… Somewhere between fresh on the tree and smelling great in a bag
It’s a bit of a stretch to say it comes in three flavors, though I guess if you grind a little from each bag together it would taste different. This comes in dark and extra dark. (The k cups come in extra light beans from the other side of the world.)
My favorite coffee beans just show up from a guy. I think I heard he’s an incognito country music star who just likes to have cool hobbies on the side.
@catthegreat@djslack To be honest, finding a box to ship it in is often the hardest part That and controlling the weather to keep the rain away so I can roast
@capnjb@catthegreat@djslack I am sure if you hand out your address to the forum and the requirement of the boxes you will get a billion boxes and maybe some will have toilet paper in them where they never got around to sending that to meh way back when.
@catthegreat@djslack@Kidsandliz That’s a thoughtful gesture Not Liz, but this isn’t Santa’s workshop. I don’t need an assembly line for shipping coffee
I bought a Cuisinart grinder because it was supposed to be good and it ended up just making me deaf.
I spent a few weeks abusing amazons return policy looking for a quiet grinder. The KitchenAid coffee grinder was the winner. I can have a conversation with someone in the kitchen while grinding my beans, a feat that was unheard of when I used the Cuisinart. Pun fully intended.
@Konraden this is good to know. I, too, have the Cuisinart and it’s why I like my manual grinder so much. I only still have the electric for if I want to grind enough for a whole pot which is pretty rare these days so I should probably just part with it.
Arabica or Robusta?
Probably a blend of both or just robusta.
Elle’s cafe doesn’t state contents for these varieties, however on their premium varieties it states type of bean and origin.
I prefer arabica with a medium roast which is less than a French roast.
So pass
As much as I love good coffee and geek out about the details, I just don’t have time (or space) in my mornings to prepare good coffee.
A Moka pot is the closest to EZ espresso but I’m not big on drinking aluminum so I quit that years ago.
illy from a moka pot is absolutely fabulous though.
@simeon527 So get a stainless steel moka pot. Bialetti (the original moka pot company) makes several and these days there are a plethora of knock-offs.
I find it funny this coffee has a 90 day warranty.
Like suddenly the beans start boot looping on you and the pot never finishes brewing, good God that’s nightmare fuel.
@rjquillin it’s been my experience that an expiration date on a bag of coffee is usually 1 year after roasting date. So these were probably roasted in February.
But the picture of the Dark Espresso Roast (middle pic & combo 3rd pic) the bag clearly says “ground coffee”. Are we supposed to ignore that bit, Mister mean beans? TIA
If you’re getting this instead of Peets at the grocery store it’s probably just as good and it’s $6 a bag. It’s not going to compare to actual local coffee at market price, but hey, not everyone wants to make caffeination a hobby.
The grinder rec is good but it hurts me that Capressos are $100 now. Really isnt a better value unless you wanna roll the dice on a Chinese knockoff or get a burr grinder off Facebook marketplace.
@highonpez I had a Capresso grinder for a long while, but one day I took it apart to clean it and it never went back together properly. Couldn’t change the coarseness anymore. I blame me
Now I use one of these. Decent mill. Does a really good job on a fine grind for espresso
@capnjb@highonpez
If you still have the Capresso Infinity, this diagram might help. It worked for me, on my 2012 model.
There are also hacks out there for making this grinder stepless, but I haven’t tried doing that.
Dark and darker, not much in the way of variety, but the price is reasonable. The Elle K-cups are good (got them here for our office) if that means anything.
@capnjb
You do lawns too? The coffee and occasional bonuses are good but my lawn guys are expensive. Also just in case and not pandering
But I am away from WA address for a while going to North Carolina for Winter. Not that I expect anything but will whisper new address just in case.
4 x 12 oz = 3 lb or $8 per pound. I can buy Sumatra beans at the high-class version of the San Antonio-based chain for $9 per pound and know I’m getting a great coffee. MEH!
@texquill Well, to be fair (I’m dumb, but I’ve been roasting coffee for a minute), a pound of raw beans will weigh 12oz once roasted as the beans lose about 25% in water weight during the roast. If I take 64oz of raw beans and roast them I will end up with 48 of fresh coffee. Math is everywhere.
That’s a great price for quality beans. I was going to chime in that the price for these Elle beans is good, not great. Costco sells their house beans for $8/lb.
@misobrilliant@texquill a few years ago a Costco near me did in-store roasting. Only one I’ve seen. Not sure they still have it. Made the store smell nice, though.
I got these last time. They taste fine to me. I have an unsophisticated palette and I can’t speak to everyone’s tastes, but I have had truly bad coffee and this is not it.
Honestly, if you have a choice between pre-ground and whole-bean that you’re going to put through a blade “grinder”, just buy the pre-ground. Blade grinders are literally not worth the money when you can buy a decent burr grinder for ~$100 that will last much, much longer, and many local roasters and coffee shops are happy to grind their whole beans for you on request so you don’t need your own grinder at all (and then at least you know when it started going stale).
@IAMIS@Medlir i had the Nespresso style I thought they were not bad. I think K-cups suck overall. Depending on the machine, there are some “tricks” you can do to overcome the suckiness, but still depends on the source material.
@Medlir@pmarin I’ll have to look into those tricks. The convenience is addictive, but it’s generally weak and invariable. When I have time I grind and use a French press. At least I can vary the strength.
Specs
Product: 4-Pack: ELLE Café Whole Bean Coffee
Model: 810144967196, 810144967202
Condition: New
ELLE French Roast Whole Bean
ELLE Espresso Roast Whole Bean
What’s Included?
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Oct 2 - Monday, Oct 5
Calling @capnjb You need to weigh in on whether this whole bean coffee is worthy of your secret not so secret coffee club.
@Kidsandliz I have no file on this brand, nor knowledge of when it was roasted. I do see it’s from three different countries so it could be from 10 different farms (or more). It’s a super blend of who knows what. I prefer roasting single estate beans. I rarely do blends. This might be fine, it just depends on how you like your coffee. If you are a cream and sugar person this would probably be a good purchase for the price. If you drink it black like I do, I’m not sure what the results will be here. Who knows… could be fine.
I hope you enjoyed this completely vague and non-informational recommendation.
@capnjb @Kidsandliz You roast your beans at home DIY style? Heard it can be unsafe cause of the fumes it gives off but if you have a good source of info on how to learn please share
@capnjb @Kidsandliz @v3ctorman
My brother-in-law occasionally roasted indoors on cast iron but usually does it outdoors on deck or front porch. In my opinion we have a lot more things to be fearful of than fine roasted coffee smells. Formaldehyde from carpets. Lead in old paint. Radon underground is coming to get you in some areas. Atomic bombs from Russia when we learned to duck and cover in school in the 1970s, before they became today’s active shooter drills.
If it’s death by fine coffee smells, sign me up!
@Kidsandliz @v3ctorman Heh, I’ve been roasting for years. I do roast outside because the roast tends to smoke towards the end. I’ve got two roasters that were well more than a car payment
I’ve sent beans to 25+ people here and to my knowledge, everyone is still alive 
I use a Genecafe… it does about a half pound at a time. I also have a Behmor roaster that can do a full pound. But its control board is getting a little wonky so it’s mostly the Genecafe these days. Here is a link to a wonderful little shop I buy from all the time. They have many choices for roasters.
https://thecaptainscoffee.com/collections/roasters
@capnjb @pmarin @v3ctorman The real question is if you roast chocolate beans do you get outstanding hot chocolate? Or can you them melt them into a mold and get even better chocolate candy bars. The heck with coffee.
@Kidsandliz @pmarin @v3ctorman I’ve never tried to process cacao seeds but it’s much different of a process then processing coffee. Cacao is (from what I understand) fermented for many days and coffee seeds are separated from the cherries and washed and dried in the sun on big concrete slabs. I am no expert on the coffee process, but I’ve done some research
I’m kind of the middle man… 
Somewhere between fresh on the tree and smelling great in a bag 
@capnjb @Kidsandliz
As my professor used to say when he offered me coffee, “Oooooh, Black and BITTER for you”.
I knew it was a bad day to quit coffee…
@therealjrn Coffee would never give up on you.
@Sorry_Nothing @therealjrn
…why did my mind immediately go to Steve McCroskey?
@chienfou @Sorry_Nothing
That was intended ha ha.
@Sorry_Nothing @therealjrn
Well, it worked like a charm!
@Sorry_Nothing @therealjrn
People quit. Coffee don’t quit,
It’s a bit of a stretch to say it comes in three flavors, though I guess if you grind a little from each bag together it would taste different. This comes in dark and extra dark. (The k cups come in extra light beans from the other side of the world.)
My favorite coffee beans just show up from a guy. I think I heard he’s an incognito country music star who just likes to have cool hobbies on the side.
@djslack That guy’s beans is the bestest beans!
That’s right.
@djslack Hey, no pandering to get further up the list
You get it when you get it 
@capnjb and (I swear this isn’t pandering) I’m happy to be that way. If it doesn’t show up again, it’s still my favorite so far.
The read’s not clear but the shirt pic was in response to the highlights picking me and saying I “has a coffee guy, naturally.”
If I wanted to sneak up the list I’d try a more direct bribe
@capnjb @djslack mine showed up randomly one day, too! I like the not so secret secret club
@catthegreat @djslack To be honest, finding a box to ship it in is often the hardest part
That and controlling the weather to keep the rain away so I can roast 
@capnjb @catthegreat @djslack I am sure if you hand out your address to the forum and the requirement of the boxes you will get a billion boxes and maybe some will have toilet paper in them where they never got around to sending that to meh way back when.
@catthegreat @djslack @Kidsandliz That’s a thoughtful gesture Not Liz, but this isn’t Santa’s workshop.
I don’t need an assembly line for shipping coffee 
@djslack how do I join this not so secret secret club?
I bought a Cuisinart grinder because it was supposed to be good and it ended up just making me deaf.
I spent a few weeks abusing amazons return policy looking for a quiet grinder. The KitchenAid coffee grinder was the winner. I can have a conversation with someone in the kitchen while grinding my beans, a feat that was unheard of when I used the Cuisinart. Pun fully intended.
@Konraden this is good to know. I, too, have the Cuisinart and it’s why I like my manual grinder so much. I only still have the electric for if I want to grind enough for a whole pot which is pretty rare these days so I should probably just part with it.
@Konraden my experiences on Grindr are usually pretty loud
Arabica or Robusta?
Probably a blend of both or just robusta.
Elle’s cafe doesn’t state contents for these varieties, however on their premium varieties it states type of bean and origin.
I prefer arabica with a medium roast which is less than a French roast.
So pass
As much as I love good coffee and geek out about the details, I just don’t have time (or space) in my mornings to prepare good coffee.
A Moka pot is the closest to EZ espresso but I’m not big on drinking aluminum so I quit that years ago.
illy from a moka pot is absolutely fabulous though.
@simeon527 So get a stainless steel moka pot. Bialetti (the original moka pot company) makes several and these days there are a plethora of knock-offs.
@simeon527 Stainless moka pots exist! The one I have was from Ikea, but that was years ago. There are others for under $20, though.
@narfcake
I have tried those and unfortunately they seem to affect the taste of the coffee
if the Nespresso pods are any indication- this stuff ain’t terrible.
it just ain’t in Nespresso pods and makes really shitty margaritas.
@alacrity i had these in original Nespresso version and I can say they weren’t bad. Apparently I used a whole case pack.
/showme 30-something adult outside in parking lot behind fancy cafe using bag of coffee beans as a bong
@zippyus Here’s the image you requested for “30-something adult outside in parking lot behind fancy cafe using bag of coffee beans as a bong”
I find it funny this coffee has a 90 day warranty.
Like suddenly the beans start boot looping on you and the pot never finishes brewing, good God that’s nightmare fuel.
What is the roast date?
Expiration dates are next to meaningless.
Coffee goes stale in weeks to perhaps a month after roast.
@rjquillin it’s been my experience that an expiration date on a bag of coffee is usually 1 year after roasting date. So these were probably roasted in February.
So… is the darker one pre ground ??
@insman95 both whole bean
@insman95 @troy but the specs said Espresso Ground
@CraigDanger @insman95 You’re right! We’ve corrected to state whole bean.
But the picture of the Dark Espresso Roast (middle pic & combo 3rd pic) the bag clearly says “ground coffee”. Are we supposed to ignore that bit, Mister mean beans? TIA
@Octomeh Yes, ignore. We are only selling whole bean today
If you’re getting this instead of Peets at the grocery store it’s probably just as good and it’s $6 a bag. It’s not going to compare to actual local coffee at market price, but hey, not everyone wants to make caffeination a hobby.
The grinder rec is good but it hurts me that Capressos are $100 now. Really isnt a better value unless you wanna roll the dice on a Chinese knockoff or get a burr grinder off Facebook marketplace.
@highonpez I had a Capresso grinder for a long while, but one day I took it apart to clean it and it never went back together properly. Couldn’t change the coarseness anymore. I blame me
Now I use one of these. Decent mill. Does a really good job on a fine grind for espresso
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BR7QDXPG
@capnjb Ollygrin is cuter than most of the silly madeup names. I’ll give them that.
@highonpez Honestly, it’s quite functional. Pretty much an impulse buy, but it’s been great for about two years.
@capnjb @highonpez
If you still have the Capresso Infinity, this diagram might help. It worked for me, on my 2012 model.
There are also hacks out there for making this grinder stepless, but I haven’t tried doing that.
@highonpez @southpaw I appreciate that information, but it is long since gone.
It was a wonderful grinder until I fooked it up 
@capnjb @highonpez Is the Brazzers Encore still the Gold Standard for entry level burr grinders? I know it’s a sexy ass grinder
@capnjb @highonpez @southpaw
Yeah, I had this retrofitted into my 1st Gen Q45 tranny, and the caffeine improved my MPG by 8%. The problem is the car is hard to turn off.
Dark and darker, not much in the way of variety, but the price is reasonable. The Elle K-cups are good (got them here for our office) if that means anything.
Hey, Meh. Get off my turf!
@capnjb
You do lawns too? The coffee and occasional bonuses are good but my lawn guys are expensive. Also just in case and not pandering
But I am away from WA address for a while going to North Carolina for Winter. Not that I expect anything but will whisper new address just in case.
@pmarin Heh, when you get settled, send me your NC address. It’s faster and cheaper since I’m on the east coast too
@pmarin Also, just let me know if you will have a grinder at your new location
4 x 12 oz = 3 lb or $8 per pound. I can buy Sumatra beans at the high-class version of the San Antonio-based chain for $9 per pound and know I’m getting a great coffee. MEH!
@texquill
Not a bad price for good fresh roasted Sumatra.
@texquill Well, to be fair (I’m dumb, but I’ve been roasting coffee for a minute), a pound of raw beans will weigh 12oz once roasted as the beans lose about 25% in water weight during the roast. If I take 64oz of raw beans and roast them I will end up with 48 of fresh coffee. Math is everywhere.
@texquill
That’s a great price for quality beans. I was going to chime in that the price for these Elle beans is good, not great. Costco sells their house beans for $8/lb.
@misobrilliant @texquill a few years ago a Costco near me did in-store roasting. Only one I’ve seen. Not sure they still have it. Made the store smell nice, though.
Why does the “how did you get here” link for emjcd.com go to the meh listing for the Hex Evolve Backpack?
/image emjcd.com
I got these last time. They taste fine to me. I have an unsophisticated palette and I can’t speak to everyone’s tastes, but I have had truly bad coffee and this is not it.
Honestly, if you have a choice between pre-ground and whole-bean that you’re going to put through a blade “grinder”, just buy the pre-ground. Blade grinders are literally not worth the money when you can buy a decent burr grinder for ~$100 that will last much, much longer, and many local roasters and coffee shops are happy to grind their whole beans for you on request so you don’t need your own grinder at all (and then at least you know when it started going stale).
I’m disappointed this isn’t a collab with Elle’s Cafe:
https://www.instagram.com/ellescafe
…maybe take one of them city scooters out for a rip?
Only available in burnt and extra burnt? No thanks.
Sorry, but I wasn’t very impressed with their kpod offering when it last came up.
@IAMIS Same, we have so many of the kcups still, and feel they’re pretty awful.
@IAMIS @Medlir i had the Nespresso style I thought they were not bad. I think K-cups suck overall. Depending on the machine, there are some “tricks” you can do to overcome the suckiness, but still depends on the source material.
@Medlir @pmarin I’ll have to look into those tricks. The convenience is addictive, but it’s generally weak and invariable. When I have time I grind and use a French press. At least I can vary the strength.
If one gets freshly roasted beans and then freezes them, after or before grinding, does that ruin them for flavor?