@radi0j0hn
“Germ” may refer to not just a bacterium but to any type of microorganism, such as protists or fungi, or even non-living pathogens that can cause disease, such as viruses, prions, or viroids.
“germ – definition of germ in English from the Oxford dictionary”
UV-C. To kill the microscopic grotmonsters on things like a phone. Which have been there with mostly no effect for as long as phones have existed. After the initial kill-everything-with-fire panic about virus particles on surfaces, the eventual finding was “Eh, you won’t catch it from a grocery cart handle, but WEAR THE MASK, okay?” Phone sanitizing was ridiculed as being utterly useless in the Hitchhiker’s Guide. Douglas Adams would have looked at this device and just shook his head.
@Jonas4321 To be fair, we “lived with it” by losing a percentage of our population until the survivors were resistant. Which we’re not really willing to do anymore.
@EvilSmoo@Jonas4321 Yes but these sorts of devices/disinfectants tend to claim they’ll kill ~99.5% of harmful bacteria… The question is, what about that 0.05% which they can’t kill? You’ve replaced a complex biome of beneficial and harmful microbes with only those hardy enough to survive concerted efforts to kill them.
@EvilSmoo I am hardly anti-vax, but let’s kill what makes a difference, not be indiscriminate about this. This BS product is in the same category as UV mosquito zappers - the damage outweighs the benefit, so don’t do it.
@EvilSmoo@Jonas4321
RIGHT! I’ve been worrying that the next pandemic is going to be one of super-resistant bacteria, since everyone got into using anti-bac sprays and wipes on everything everywhere in 2020.
@EvilSmoo@Jonas4321@Kyeh over use of anti bacterial stuff was an existing problem and selects for bacteria that can survive them. Was already a potential issue.
There was no reason to use antibacterial wipes to fight a virus. Not that stopped anyone. But it’s going to take more then that
Hmm, wondering if this will cure UV resin. I have been doing small inlays with resin and curing with a UV flashlight to set and I thought about using this to do a final hard cure. For the price, I might try it out.
@toycardriver
I bought them today for two reasons. I’m curious if these are really UVC which is invisible to humans so if you can see it, it’s not UV and definitely not UVC. I have a professional UV A/B/C meter so Ill get to the answer.
If these are “near UV” then they should be good enough to cure the glue and other things like UV cured solder mask. So I will use them for those if it turns out to not be real UVC.
@Kyeh Yes. I’ve been turning pens for a couple of years and my supply shop had the components to do these. All you have to do is put in your inlay material and build up the resin, and then sand and polish it.
@Kyeh@toycardriver
Kyeh ask my questions, are you selling them and do you have a Etsy? IF and when you decide they’re perfect i’d definitely be there to buy! Actually i’d take one before perfection status, it’s really pretty, AND pretty neat! Do you make other things?
Don’t you need a guinea pig?
@Mandamm,
Tell your mom to be careful. Ozone CPAP sanitizers void the warrenty of the major brands of CPAP/BIPAP machines because ozone can cause deterioration of plastic parts.
No, it has a SINGLE UV-C LED. The device is horribly designed and I had to repair the one my family member purchased from a local big box store to get it to even work.
JUST SAY NO.
There I said it.
If you do buy it and don’t like it I’ll take it. I want that LED - but not enough to pay $15 for it
@tardis From the pictures and others I’ve seen in-person, these have a small UV “tube” which I believe is a UV emitter tube (or “bulb”) and NOT an LED. This is similar to what is in things like toothbrush sanitizers, but those are generally larger bulbs powered directly by AC power, and are replaceable. I believe these units have a power converter that goes from the 5V USB input to a high voltage for the “bulb” – it doesn’t need much current so the electronics can handle that. How effective and optimal – probably not that much. Also, the description (not that you can always trust it) says: “UV-C light produced by dual UV-C bulbs”
And in this “deal” you get a large and small unit, so maybe the large has 2 and the small l has 1 tube/bulb. But probably not an LED. I do think that as of the last year, there are no-name companies selling really cheap “sanitizers” with little more than blue-tinted LEDs.
The number of times I come to the comments thinking “this might be worth a go” only to be dissuaded by those of you with more knowledge or research time. Thanks for the savings. Now to convince myself it’s finally time let vmp go.
I’m always bemused at the all the concern about germs on certain things - cell phones, computer keyboards - they do news stories about this frequently. And yet most people don’t think twice about handling doorknobs, or keypads at the ATM, or sitting on benches or chairs in public settings. Menus at restaurants, etc.
At least be consistent in your germ phobia, I say.
Mine is still sitting in the box, unopened! I have a room filling up pretty quickly with a bunch of stuff/junk that i’ve been feeding my addiction with! Unfortunately my insurance doesn’t cover retail therapy! …
Not happy. It only cleans one side of phone surface at a time! Have to wait until it stops and turn phone over. Also cheap plastic casing. I bought Phone Soap last year and it is soooo much better! Can I return without paying for shipping?
Specs
Chemical-Free:
XL Size Sanitizer
Standard Size Sanitizer
What’s Included?
1x Sharper Image UV-Zone XL Phone & Accessory Sanitizer
1x Sharper Image UV-Zone Phone Sanitizer
Price Comparison
$14.99 for Standard Size at Amazon
$19.80 for XL Size at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Aug 8 - Wednesday, Aug 10
Did they actually draw fake laser beams in some of the pictures???
@ohhwell this is Meh
@ohhwell the only surprising thing is they didn’t also include sharks
@hchavers yeah but… Those aren’t even the Meg-edited image.
What’s the girth limit?
@Num1Zero If you have to ask, maybe not enough
@Num1Zero
What are planning to put in there?
@Lynnerizer @Num1Zero condoms are easier/cheaper
@Num1Zero I dunno. Let’s ask Wayne…
Germs & bacteria are not viruses.
@radi0j0hn
“Germ” may refer to not just a bacterium but to any type of microorganism, such as protists or fungi, or even non-living pathogens that can cause disease, such as viruses, prions, or viroids.
“germ – definition of germ in English from the Oxford dictionary”
@cengland0 @radi0j0hn Also those little pieces of wheat some people are inclined to eat.
I’m not sure if they need killing (the wheat, that is.)
@cengland0 @phendrick @radi0j0hn germ(s) are good for you
UV-C. To kill the microscopic grotmonsters on things like a phone. Which have been there with mostly no effect for as long as phones have existed. After the initial kill-everything-with-fire panic about virus particles on surfaces, the eventual finding was “Eh, you won’t catch it from a grocery cart handle, but WEAR THE MASK, okay?” Phone sanitizing was ridiculed as being utterly useless in the Hitchhiker’s Guide. Douglas Adams would have looked at this device and just shook his head.
@werehatrack
Believing is still nice though… Isn’t it?
@Lynnerizer @werehatrack not really.
“UV” is a crutch word that you need to stop using. Can you see it?
We spend too much trying to kill things we have lived successfully with for centuries. This is a cash grab, not an echange of cash for value.
@Jonas4321 To be fair, we “lived with it” by losing a percentage of our population until the survivors were resistant. Which we’re not really willing to do anymore.
@EvilSmoo @Jonas4321 Yes but these sorts of devices/disinfectants tend to claim they’ll kill ~99.5% of harmful bacteria… The question is, what about that 0.05% which they can’t kill? You’ve replaced a complex biome of beneficial and harmful microbes with only those hardy enough to survive concerted efforts to kill them.
What could possibly go wrong?
@ciabelle:
You mean like your math?
@ciabelle @haydesigner probably just a typo…
@EvilSmoo I am hardly anti-vax, but let’s kill what makes a difference, not be indiscriminate about this. This BS product is in the same category as UV mosquito zappers - the damage outweighs the benefit, so don’t do it.
@EvilSmoo @Jonas4321
RIGHT! I’ve been worrying that the next pandemic is going to be one of super-resistant bacteria, since everyone got into using anti-bac sprays and wipes on everything everywhere in 2020.
@EvilSmoo @Jonas4321 @Kyeh over use of anti bacterial stuff was an existing problem and selects for bacteria that can survive them. Was already a potential issue.
There was no reason to use antibacterial wipes to fight a virus. Not that stopped anyone. But it’s going to take more then that
Hmm, wondering if this will cure UV resin. I have been doing small inlays with resin and curing with a UV flashlight to set and I thought about using this to do a final hard cure. For the price, I might try it out.
@toycardriver
I bought them today for two reasons. I’m curious if these are really UVC which is invisible to humans so if you can see it, it’s not UV and definitely not UVC. I have a professional UV A/B/C meter so Ill get to the answer.
If these are “near UV” then they should be good enough to cure the glue and other things like UV cured solder mask. So I will use them for those if it turns out to not be real UVC.
@toycardriver Example:
@toycardriver That’s really nice! You make those?
@toycardriver thats awesome- beautiful!
POPSOCKETS! SPA KITS! POLLY POCKETS! AWESOME!
@toycardriver nice! It would be sick if the gears meshed but I assume that would be a pain in the ass
@toycardriver
Love that!
I have a little doubt if my meter can detect uv-c. The owners manual list A and B on the cover.
But the LCD display does show ABC as UV modes.
I’ll have to wait to get the UVC disinfector in my hand before I can determine if it really does detect C.
@toycardriver beautiful!
@unksol Yes, It’s bad enough trimming them down to fit the channel. on the other side there are 3 small gears that are meshing.
@Kyeh Yes. I’ve been turning pens for a couple of years and my supply shop had the components to do these. All you have to do is put in your inlay material and build up the resin, and then sand and polish it.
@toycardriver cool one solid piece? No idea on what you made it
@toycardriver Really nice! Are you selling them on Etsy or anywhere? I bet a lot of people would want them.
@Kyeh I haven’t gotten around to selling yet, I’m still learning a little and I’m too much a perfectionist to sell if I don’t think it’s right.
@toycardriver I see - well, you’ll have to let people know if you do, because obviously a lot of us think they’re great!
@Kyeh @toycardriver
Do you make other things?
Kyeh ask my questions, are you selling them and do you have a Etsy? IF and when you decide they’re perfect i’d definitely be there to buy! Actually i’d take one before perfection status, it’s really pretty, AND pretty neat!
Don’t you need a guinea pig?
If the chamber were deeper I would have bought on for mom’s CPAP mask. She is negligent in sanitizing it and I am negligent in reminding her.
@ponagathos Maybe this would work? (On Sidedeal, click the photo…)
@Kyeh That would probably work fine. I just noticed that all these things use a USB charger. That is disappointing.
@ponagathos Oh, yes - that’s annoying.
@ponagathos I’ve used SoClean2 for a few years now, and it really does work. https://www.soclean.com/
Not as cool as this.
I initially saw this as…“Do You UP”. And I thought…why are there two "you"s in the title? And of course I do…otherwise I’d be in a lot of discomfort…
Tell Mom to buy a “So Clean” CPAP sanitizer. They seem a little pricey, but my BF swears by his. Pretty sure that’s the name.
@Mandamm,
Tell your mom to be careful. Ozone CPAP sanitizers void the warrenty of the major brands of CPAP/BIPAP machines because ozone can cause deterioration of plastic parts.
No, it has a SINGLE UV-C LED. The device is horribly designed and I had to repair the one my family member purchased from a local big box store to get it to even work.
JUST SAY NO.
There I said it.
If you do buy it and don’t like it I’ll take it. I want that LED - but not enough to pay $15 for it
@tardis From the pictures and others I’ve seen in-person, these have a small UV “tube” which I believe is a UV emitter tube (or “bulb”) and NOT an LED. This is similar to what is in things like toothbrush sanitizers, but those are generally larger bulbs powered directly by AC power, and are replaceable. I believe these units have a power converter that goes from the 5V USB input to a high voltage for the “bulb” – it doesn’t need much current so the electronics can handle that. How effective and optimal – probably not that much. Also, the description (not that you can always trust it) says: “UV-C light produced by dual UV-C bulbs”
And in this “deal” you get a large and small unit, so maybe the large has 2 and the small l has 1 tube/bulb. But probably not an LED. I do think that as of the last year, there are no-name companies selling really cheap “sanitizers” with little more than blue-tinted LEDs.
If these are LED powered, it is virtually impossible they are UVC LEDs. UVC LEDs are very expensive and not used in cheap consumer products!
@phipson
And there’s a big difference in effectiveness from one end of the UVC spectrum to the other, as well.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4702654/
The number of times I come to the comments thinking “this might be worth a go” only to be dissuaded by those of you with more knowledge or research time. Thanks for the savings. Now to convince myself it’s finally time let vmp go.
@Vee19
And inherit the poop icon of fabulous independence, when it costs just as much to be an ordinary free shipping Mehmber?
I’m in. Needed something to sanitize my masks at the end of the day.
Apply coupon code “DEALNEWSFS” to bag free shipping
I will say that I bought one of these last time, and they do smell very strongly of ozone if that means anything.
I’m always bemused at the all the concern about germs on certain things - cell phones, computer keyboards - they do news stories about this frequently. And yet most people don’t think twice about handling doorknobs, or keypads at the ATM, or sitting on benches or chairs in public settings. Menus at restaurants, etc.
At least be consistent in your germ phobia, I say.
Mine is still sitting in the box, unopened! I have a room filling up pretty quickly with a bunch of stuff/junk that i’ve been feeding my addiction with! Unfortunately my insurance doesn’t cover retail therapy!
…
Not happy. It only cleans one side of phone surface at a time! Have to wait until it stops and turn phone over. Also cheap plastic casing. I bought Phone Soap last year and it is soooo much better! Can I return without paying for shipping?
The smell is horrible. Didn’t think about that when I bought this crap.