Is the adapter three-prong too, or does it ground itself? I know someone who doesn’t have enough 3 prong outlets in his room, and if this can adapt 2 to 3, it’d really be golden.
@FSSZilla The offending ground pin can be readily clipped off by a decent set of dikes.
[No, seriously - a power strip cannot ground itself. And you’d be hard pressed to find a non-grounded outlet strip with three prong outlets. And don’t count on one of those other adapters either.]
@FSSZilla@rpstrong Just so folks aren’t mistakenly offended by their own ignorance, “dikes” is not from a Danish electrician inventor. The gentleman poster was referring to wire cutters.
Per Wikipedia:
Diags or Dikes (a portmanteau of “Diagonal CutterS” is pronounced “dikes”) – as in the phrase “a pair of dikes” or “hand me those dikes” – is jargon used especially in the electrical industry, to describe diagonal pliers.
In the United Kingdom and Ireland, diagonal pliers are commonly referred to as snips, and in Canada, Australia and New Zealand they are often referred to as side cutters.
@FSSZilla@medz Speaking as an electrical designer… absolutely do not use cheater plugs on a surge protector. Serious fire hazard. Tell your friend to get his place rewired.
Has anyone ever gotten a surge protector warranty to pay for damaged equipment? I had stuff get fried while connected to a nice Tripp Lite power strip. They had me send the strip back which supposedly tested fine and had no damage. It didn’t trip for me, though. They gave me a new, bigger surge protector, but didn’t compensate me for the equipment.
@mehcuda67 Only if you clip the grounding pin off of one and grind down the flare points of the ‘wide’ blade so that you can reverse it when you plug it in, thus taking advantage of the Möbius effect.
@ojohn That’s the surge suppressor. It “filters” over-voltage from your power company. How much power it can absorb (total, folks, it is cumulative) is noted in those “joule” ratings.
@mike808 A “surge suppressor” is a surge suppressor. The “power filtration” is something more. Monster’s own website has a little about it, but very little more than is on the box pictured here (pics 2 and 3 here, “Monster Clean Power”). Monster also has a video on the y-tube about their “Clean Power”, but this model would obviously have only “Stage 1” or possibly something less, but it must be something:
@ojohn There are two forms of signal distortion in AC. Over-voltage (and under-voltage) which is more (or less) energy than you want coming in at 120V.
The other form of distortion is frequency shift. That may be what they’re talking about, meaning a tight band pass filter centered on 60Hz. Different frequencies have different efficiency in power transmission, but do not represent “more” energy directly as increased Voltage does.
Think of it like water pressure (voltage) and kinks in your hose (frequency). They’re related, but water pressure will affect filling up a bucket more than taking the kinks out of the hose, because once there are no more kinks (the frequency is optimal), you can’t make the hose carry any more water. But you can make it fill up the bucket faster if you increase the pressure to flow faster.
The “surge suppressor” clips over-voltage and absorbs the extra energy. Basically it “burns out” circuitry that only gets current when the voltage is over 120V. Most surges happen very quickly, so there is a “frequency” to the spike as well, even though it may only be for one half of a “cycle” and it doesn’t have to be a 60Hz “spike”.
So what they’re talking about as “clean power” is a voltage clamp/suppressor and a band-pass filter to output something closer to a “pure” 120V 60Hz signal. To be clear, it is NOT a “line conditioner” or UPS. It is just some strap-on circuitry so you think it is better than it really is.
If you’re worried about your power company’s poor line power quality, DO NOT GET THESE, and instead get a UPS that is “continuous” or “always on”, (and not “switched”) and “pure sine wave” (and not “digital”). That said, some devices (PC power supplies which convert AC back to DC) are tuned for receiving square wave (digital switched) power from a UPS since that’s the cheaper more common variety of consumer UPS models out there.
____ Yes. Besides this one.
____ No. This doesn’t count, and there ain’t no more.
____ This is all too confusing.
____ I’ll give my erudition in a reply below.
@ripper69@SStlthy To fit behind something like a piece of furniture up against the wall. Even better are the flat plugs, but that would mean you won’t be buying these Monster outlet strips.
Here is a Belkin model and Amazon has 1-foot adapters if you need them for these Monsters.
@armstrks A quick search shows some better photos on this eBay sale. The plug is right angled but doesn’t look like one that can twist around. Seems to be a fixed downward plug.
I was hoping you plugged it INTO the wall socket directly for a MONSTER power outlet because I am sick of cords. Sooooooooooooooo, it got a meh from me.
@hchavers My cat urinated on my TV’s power strip one time. I came home and smelled that weird electrical scent. I finally found the strip fused to the carpeting with a small hole in both. The TV and accessories were fine, though. Cat, too, but I imagine one of her lives was sacrificed.
@hchavers not only have I seen it, I’ve tasted its sweet nectar.
I have never poured it on a surge protector to see what happens, though. Never knew why one might want to protect against it, unless maybe they prefer a nice Fresca instead.
I could use a new surge protector, but I can’t buy these because if my friends see them they will think I’m an idiot who buys grossly overpriced “audiophile grade” bullshit.
Stop selling everything in multiples. I already have one more of these than I need. If you’d been selling just one I might have still considered it, maybe to have in the car.
I have surge suppressors on All my electronics including my main panel box. Been through power surges and they worked. They are not all created equal. Can’t comment on these, but there are many reviews and tests on many brands…
I bought a monster power surge suppressor on meh a few years back (different model though) and it sat unused for a while. Once I started using it, it only took about a month or so before it started emitting a high pitch whine so I replaced it. No more monster products for me.
I don’t think I’ve bought a Monster product since I got some kind of scam rubber CD rings that supposedly kept your Led Zeppelin box set CD’s level in your brand new JVC CD player you bought from Crutchfield. Were those Monster? I may be making that up. Anyway I just so happen to need a surge protector so
The USB charging ports in this surge protector have one 2.1amp and one 1.0amp, rather than the 2x 2.1amps we’d originally listed. I’ve updated the above specs.
If you bought this and that changes your mind, write into /support to cancel (or see if you can self-cancel at /orders
I’m sorry we didn’t confirm this ahead of the sale. We’ll need to make sure we test future USB ports ourselves.
Anyone ever feel like you’re buying too much crap on meh? I just bought something yesterday and today here’s another thing I don’t really NEED but could certainly use and at a good price. C’mon, sell out before I give in!
I once worked with a guy who had one power stripped plugged into another plugged into another plugged into another. It worked but it also fried his monitor and blew a fuse.
Last night I decided to end my VMP (effective today) because I wasn’t ordering frequently enough to justify the expense. Now they post this and I’m in for one…
Seriously though, I’m cutting the negative revenue stream cord (see what I did there) tomorrow (unless you have another REALLY good deal).
@blaineg Oh, most definitely! I myself am an accident waiting to happen! (I broke my foot falling off a handicap curb while in a spica cast for a broken wrist five weeks earlier!! Really! True story! )
@stuckigs can you whisper me with a full screenshot of that screen so I can see the error? Or, write into https://meh.com/support and ask for me in your message.
@stuckigs Glad you were able to place the order! You hadn’t placed any others, so you should be all set. If you see charges for those earlier attempts, they’ll fall off uncollected.
Specs
What’s in the Box?
2x Surge Protectors
Price Comparison
$119.90 (for 2) at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Tuesday, July 21st - Monday, July 27th
Double Double
Shocking
6 foot cord times two … that’s not nearly long enough to reach the plug on the neighbor’s house
@nolrak Ask if you could borrow his extension.
@rpstrong That’s a good point, why should I spend money when I can just borrow the cord too
Why does it write tablet and phone/mp3 below the USB outlets? I only own one of those things and would use the USB outlets for lamps anyway.
That annoys my fake internet OCD.
@elpepe It’s another way of saying one port is 2.1A and the other is 1.0A.
@ciabelle oh then the meh description is wrong!!
@ciabelle @elpepe correct, because the Meh description clearly says 2 x 2.1 amp outlets, which would be a total of 4.2 amps
Is the adapter three-prong too, or does it ground itself? I know someone who doesn’t have enough 3 prong outlets in his room, and if this can adapt 2 to 3, it’d really be golden.
Then again, I doubt that’s likely to be the case.
@FSSZilla
/image 3 prong adapter
@FSSZilla The offending ground pin can be readily clipped off by a decent set of dikes.
[No, seriously - a power strip cannot ground itself. And you’d be hard pressed to find a non-grounded outlet strip with three prong outlets. And don’t count on one of those other adapters either.]
@FSSZilla @rpstrong don’t they have to be grounded to work though?
@FSSZilla @rpstrong Just so folks aren’t mistakenly offended by their own ignorance, “dikes” is not from a Danish electrician inventor. The gentleman poster was referring to wire cutters.
Per Wikipedia:
@FSSZilla @medz Speaking as an electrical designer… absolutely do not use cheater plugs on a surge protector. Serious fire hazard. Tell your friend to get his place rewired.
@Kidsandliz No, they do not need to be grounded to work, but it is a very good idea. Remember, your electrical outlets are AC, not DC.
@Kidsandliz @Limewater Well, they’re DC half the time. Maybe if I cut off one blade?
@Kidsandliz @rpstrong They’re actually DC the other half, too…
@rpstrong They’ll be safer if you cut off all the blades.
Has anyone ever gotten a surge protector warranty to pay for damaged equipment? I had stuff get fried while connected to a nice Tripp Lite power strip. They had me send the strip back which supposedly tested fine and had no damage. It didn’t trip for me, though. They gave me a new, bigger surge protector, but didn’t compensate me for the equipment.
@medz I think the only way you can get them to pay that out is through small claims. It’s a hassle, but you’ll probably get your money.
Your other option is to see if any class action lawyers would take your case. Probably comes with a bigger payout, but even more hassle.
@medz @SnakeJG A bigger payout for the lawyers anyway.
Monster website link ($39 list price, $49 MSRP)
https://www.monsterstore.com/products/core-power-800-8-outlet-surge-protector-with-usb-charging
It’s not clear if both USB ports combined are 2.1A or if one is 1A and the other is 2.1A, or if both are each 2.1A (for 4.2A total).
@afwaller They’re labeled differently, but why would you cut a lousy 1.1A on oner? Especially on a freakin’ AC power strip?
But of course, this is Monster.
This actually looks like a pretty good deal. The perfect meh, 2 times as many as I don’t need, but at the cost of one.
And the year of the charger (and charging related things) continues!
what day is it?
@FSSZilla Why, it is …
DAY 160
Meh Face Popsockets
Still waiting, Meh.
/giphy bodacious-squealing-throne
If you plug them into each other, do you get perpetual charge?
@mehcuda67 Only if you clip the grounding pin off of one and grind down the flare points of the ‘wide’ blade so that you can reverse it when you plug it in, thus taking advantage of the Möbius effect.
@mehcuda67
@mehcuda67 Now you’re just solving the energy crisis.
/giphy Infinite Power
@mehcuda67 You can do this with UPSs to charge them, right?
Yeah gonna have to dispute that $120 list price. Reeks of bullshit.
@denton It’s Monster – purveyors of fancy looking cables that can pass ones and zeroes
better thanas well as sub-$5 grade ones.What is the “Power filtration” noted on the box? Is this a “power conditioner” or something close to that?
@ojohn That’s the surge suppressor. It “filters” over-voltage from your power company. How much power it can absorb (total, folks, it is cumulative) is noted in those “joule” ratings.
@mike808 A “surge suppressor” is a surge suppressor. The “power filtration” is something more. Monster’s own website has a little about it, but very little more than is on the box pictured here (pics 2 and 3 here, “Monster Clean Power”). Monster also has a video on the y-tube about their “Clean Power”, but this model would obviously have only “Stage 1” or possibly something less, but it must be something:
@ojohn There are two forms of signal distortion in AC. Over-voltage (and under-voltage) which is more (or less) energy than you want coming in at 120V.
The other form of distortion is frequency shift. That may be what they’re talking about, meaning a tight band pass filter centered on 60Hz. Different frequencies have different efficiency in power transmission, but do not represent “more” energy directly as increased Voltage does.
Think of it like water pressure (voltage) and kinks in your hose (frequency). They’re related, but water pressure will affect filling up a bucket more than taking the kinks out of the hose, because once there are no more kinks (the frequency is optimal), you can’t make the hose carry any more water. But you can make it fill up the bucket faster if you increase the pressure to flow faster.
The “surge suppressor” clips over-voltage and absorbs the extra energy. Basically it “burns out” circuitry that only gets current when the voltage is over 120V. Most surges happen very quickly, so there is a “frequency” to the spike as well, even though it may only be for one half of a “cycle” and it doesn’t have to be a 60Hz “spike”.
So what they’re talking about as “clean power” is a voltage clamp/suppressor and a band-pass filter to output something closer to a “pure” 120V 60Hz signal. To be clear, it is NOT a “line conditioner” or UPS. It is just some strap-on circuitry so you think it is better than it really is.
If you’re worried about your power company’s poor line power quality, DO NOT GET THESE, and instead get a UPS that is “continuous” or “always on”, (and not “switched”) and “pure sine wave” (and not “digital”). That said, some devices (PC power supplies which convert AC back to DC) are tuned for receiving square wave (digital switched) power from a UPS since that’s the cheaper more common variety of consumer UPS models out there.
Is there a poll today?
____ Yes. Besides this one.
____ No. This doesn’t count, and there ain’t no more.
____ This is all too confusing.
____ I’ll give my erudition in a reply below.
anyone know if this has a right-angle plug?
It does.
@SStlthy What is a right angle plug? And why do you need it?
@ripper69 @SStlthy To fit behind something like a piece of furniture up against the wall. Even better are the flat plugs, but that would mean you won’t be buying these Monster outlet strips.
Here is a Belkin model and Amazon has 1-foot adapters if you need them for these Monsters.
@SStlthy THOU ART MY HERO(INE).
I came here looking for the same info.
@armstrks A quick search shows some better photos on this eBay sale. The plug is right angled but doesn’t look like one that can twist around. Seems to be a fixed downward plug.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MONSTER-POWER-SAFER-POWER-PROTECTION-8-OUTLETS-Model-No-121895-00-B5/401385588506?hash=item5d7472071a%3Ag%3AN5AAAOSwg4VZlKxr&LH_BIN=1
@mike808 @ripper69 @SStlthy Are those the Belkin ones that were all burny a few years back?
I was hoping you plugged it INTO the wall socket directly for a MONSTER power outlet because I am sick of cords. Sooooooooooooooo, it got a meh from me.
@cfg83 they sold those a few years back.
@cfg83 @djslack and I bought a pair!
@doubltap me too!
How do we really know these protect against surge? Has anyone ever seen surge? It’s just an expensive black power strip with a $2 switch and $1 fuse.
@hchavers My cat urinated on my TV’s power strip one time. I came home and smelled that weird electrical scent. I finally found the strip fused to the carpeting with a small hole in both. The TV and accessories were fine, though. Cat, too, but I imagine one of her lives was sacrificed.
@hchavers not only have I seen it, I’ve tasted its sweet nectar.
I have never poured it on a surge protector to see what happens, though. Never knew why one might want to protect against it, unless maybe they prefer a nice Fresca instead.
/buy
@Bullet1979 It worked! Your order number is: abandoned-harsh-flea
/image abandoned harsh flea
@mediocrebot clears throat
/giphy abandoned-harsh-flea
/giphy evil-trained-lamp
You can’t just add all the numbers together. That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works.
Will this filter the pops and clicks from my old Surgeo Mendes & Brasil '66 album?
@sligett - Maybe, if you use the grounding prong as a stylus.
I could use a new surge protector, but I can’t buy these because if my friends see them they will think I’m an idiot who buys grossly overpriced “audiophile grade” bullshit.
@jandrese Your friends look at and inspect what kind of surge protectors you use?
@jandrese - Write “Go USC Rowing” on it and claim you got it at a yard sale at Lori Loughlin’s place.
@adamselby @jandrese yours dont?
/buy
@ponagathos It worked! Your order number is: intense-perfumed-form
/image intense perfumed form
@ponagathos It worked! Your order number is: active-cold-macaroni
Stop selling everything in multiples. I already have one more of these than I need. If you’d been selling just one I might have still considered it, maybe to have in the car.
Mehing it to Hell, bitches.
@Dizavid So you’re asking for a 12V power strip?
Such poor timing. Bought surge protectors at Costco last Saturday. $45 for 3… Big MEH today!
$12 a piece ain’t bad, but saying they’re $60 normally is a load of crock. meh.
If you actually want a correct comparison price and some reviews, here’s some comparable links:
Lacks USB ports, but otherwise looks the same
This model in white
Can always use more power strips and $12 each is a pretty decent deal.
/giphy hellish-sedentary-pie
I have surge suppressors on All my electronics including my main panel box. Been through power surges and they worked. They are not all created equal. Can’t comment on these, but there are many reviews and tests on many brands…
I like how they dictate to you what you must use the USB ports to charge.
@EvilSmoo thou shalt not use this port to charge your Bluetooth speakers
Not going to fit all those transformers that close together. Next.
@cinoclav Here’s the fix.
@blaineg I’d rather buy a surge protector made the right way.
I bought a monster power surge suppressor on meh a few years back (different model though) and it sat unused for a while. Once I started using it, it only took about a month or so before it started emitting a high pitch whine so I replaced it. No more monster products for me.
This is my first ever order on Meh. Super excited to finally purchase something!
@Mootkins
/giphy woohoo
@Mootkins
I don’t think I’ve bought a Monster product since I got some kind of scam rubber CD rings that supposedly kept your Led Zeppelin box set CD’s level in your brand new JVC CD player you bought from Crutchfield. Were those Monster? I may be making that up. Anyway I just so happen to need a surge protector so
/buy
@lehigh It worked! Your order number is: ready-burnt-druid
/image ready burnt druid
@lehigh But did you color the edges of your CDs with green magic marker?
These adventure stories always make my morning!
Speaking of burning down the house, are these UL listed?
@Mothersnakes Amazon says “Safety Agency Approved” so I would go with no.
Needed a new one since powered monitors and sub take up too much of my current 4 plug one.
/giphy ancient-lengthy-connection
The USB charging ports in this surge protector have one 2.1amp and one 1.0amp, rather than the 2x 2.1amps we’d originally listed. I’ve updated the above specs.
If you bought this and that changes your mind, write into /support to cancel (or see if you can self-cancel at /orders
I’m sorry we didn’t confirm this ahead of the sale. We’ll need to make sure we test future USB ports ourselves.
I am shocked SHOCKED I TELL YA that the description didn’t also say “Or, turn 1 outlet into 15 outlets …”
@richrauch the forbidden daisy chain…
@richrauch @uninflammable I found a triple daisy chain at work. Shakes head.
The wife and I are buying a new house and I am sure we’ll need surge protectors. Might as well grab these on the cheap.
/giphy uptight-fertile-nation
@heavyq Sorry, the
/buycommand is only available to members. Learn more.Does the plug sit flat against the wall?
Anyone ever feel like you’re buying too much crap on meh? I just bought something yesterday and today here’s another thing I don’t really NEED but could certainly use and at a good price. C’mon, sell out before I give in!
@goldnectar Literally Me.
But on the bright side, we should hear the flood coming before it shorts-out our electronics!
I once worked with a guy who had one power stripped plugged into another plugged into another plugged into another. It worked but it also fried his monitor and blew a fuse.
@IcePopBOD I feel like you have a different definition of “worked” than I do.
@dave Hey, it supplied power kinda. So what if we say that it Kinda worked?
Last night I decided to end my VMP (effective today) because I wasn’t ordering frequently enough to justify the expense. Now they post this and I’m in for one…
Seriously though, I’m cutting the negative revenue stream cord (see what I did there) tomorrow (unless you have another REALLY good deal).
/giphy ruby-neutral-gate
@mehmerized username checks out. That gate is mehmerizing.
@mehmerized I love that gate, and the door version of it. But I know I’d lose a finger in it.
@djslack I’ve been sitting here mehmerized by it for hours now!!
@blaineg Oh, most definitely! I myself am an accident waiting to happen! (I broke my foot falling off a handicap curb while in a spica cast for a broken wrist five weeks earlier!! Really! True story!
)
@mehmerized I can’s stop watching this Gate. This should be a two-fer Tuesday deal … 2 gates… a left and a right …
@GreenMt @mehmerized @djslack @blaineg same concept, solid for privacy.
“Model: MP EXP 800 USB. Our advice: say it like a cheer. It’s fun”…hahahahah…It really is…and made me BATMN
/buy
@DLPanther It worked! Your order number is: gritty-giddy-cork
/image gritty giddy cork
/image gritty-clingy-kiwi
Humph. Well, better than giphy anyway - it kept trying to give me a gif of Gritty, the Flyers’ mascot.
/buy
@srikarchinna It worked! Your order number is: untidy-verbose-argon
/image untidy verbose argon
Ok tried to buy this 3 times I just keep getting error code. So I tried maybe better luck next time…
@stuckigs which error?
@RiotDemon it just kept saying fix errors but there weren’t any. I tried 3 times.
@RiotDemon
@stuckigs can you try again and let the whole screen load for a minute before you click anything?
@Thumperchick not sure why the order won’t go through.
@RiotDemon @Thumperchick I did it again and same error. Plz don’t send me 4 sets
LOL
@stuckigs I’m looking into this right now.
@stuckigs can you whisper me with a full screenshot of that screen so I can see the error? Or, write into https://meh.com/support and ask for me in your message.
Thanks!
@Thumperchick Ok I went through and changed Florida to Fl lol and it went through
@Thumperchick order lacking-youthful-peanut
@stuckigs Glad you were able to place the order! You hadn’t placed any others, so you should be all set. If you see charges for those earlier attempts, they’ll fall off uncollected.
@Thumperchick
/buy
@blaineg It worked! Your order number is: velvety-amorous-moose
/image velvety amorous moose
@mediocrebot Moose, goat, close enough.
/buy
@D_a_v_e It worked! Your order number is: likeable-lolling-oak
/image likeable lolling oak
/image grisly-square-mouth
/buy
@tonylegrone It worked! Your order number is: novel-bejeweled-fan
/image novel bejeweled fan
Sold out. 2500 sold. I guess that’s 2500 2-piece orders.
which still haven’t shipped…
@fastharry not sure if this date has changed from the original sale but currently showing
Estimated Delivery
Monday, April 1st - Monday, April 8th
So still has some time but will probably ship soon.
@fastharry
Yeah took 7 days to even ship. Pretty terrible
@fastharry @wooster241 Meh usually ships stuff so promptly.
Meh says mine is still processing, and Fedex shows nothing heading my way, but USPS already has the tracking number. Go figure.
Damnit, I think someone stole mine from my apartment’s mailbox area.
absolutely love them, they work great.