@uninflammable Sounds like he’s talking about Phenibut, which seems to be a (relatively) potent Central Nervous System depressant. Sounds pretty spooky, but to be fair alcohol is a CNS depressant.
E: It’s worth noting the current formulation of the Crash supplement on the ProSupp website has nearly identical ingredients, except for the Phenibut which has been removed. I’d wager to say its how Meh-meisters got its hands on it.
Hey, science doesn’t say all supplements are useless. B12 supplementation is reportedly vital for vegans to avoid having severe nerve problems after about 10 years. Though I say this as someone who was vegan for 21 years without ever taking B12 supplements and still didn’t exhibit any nerve problems, so maybe even science is made a liar when it recommends a supplement.
Anyway, I loved the honesty of this write up. Even covering undeclared contaminants. Magnifique.
@ravenblack I was vegan for about six weeks, but I remember reading you need so little b12 that you probably get enough just because you’re not thoroughly washing every speck of manure off your vegetables. Appetizing, right?
@dave Yeah, that used to be the popular belief but now science says you need stupid unrealistic amounts of B12. RDAs for vitamins are mostly ridiculous and made up as far as I was able to tell.
For those who workout regularly the idea of a sleep aid isn’t a bad one. Remember how all those studies show even moderate intensity workouts increase your metabolism and give you energy?
Sometimes you don’t want energy at 10pm and have to be up at 4am.
If you’re not super careful, you screw the timing up and more often life dictates you can only workout at a crummy time.
So getting help to calm and conk our isn’t a bad idea. That’s why these supplements exist. Sticking to reputable companies would be a good idea. And it’s certainly better for you than most prescription sleep aids. For most people the answer is an antihistamine (benedryle and unisom are nearly the same thing) and some melatonin (legit studied and really works - mildly, as it states).
So then there’s this garbage. Which I almost purchased since I do sometimes use such products - moreso the ones that also function as a nutritional supplement (you grow when you sleep bro!)
But this is a MIX POWDER. It is guaranteed to taste like toxic piss. Blue Razz is supplement code-speak for “tastes like burning.” If it has been capsules I’d probably have bought it.
But blue razz? Gross. Two rules in the supplement world: blue razz is the worst fruit flavor and chocolate is always the worst of the “baked goods” flavors. Avoid avoid avoid.
Hubby swallows an unholy cocktail of prescription, OTC, and herbal sleep aids and still deals with insomnia… He often begs me (I do all the shopping) to get him tryptophan pills… May be total bunk, but if he can fall asleep with nothing more than a new placebo, it’ll be well worth it… In for 3!
@uninflammable You’ll pull a Rip Van Winkle and wake up in 1,000 years. You don’t need a supplement to achieve that, though, just listen to one of Nick Cave’s most recent albums while drifting off.
Wow, I got angry when I saw the product but was quite amused by the write up and stupid excited when you linked to science based medicine (one of my favorite blogs). Thanks for calling the industry out as a scam… even as you sort of join it.
After going a bit deeper into “what the hell is phenibut” which seems to be the one real ingredient in this thing, and comparing the price-per-phenibut-milligram between this and raw phenibuts, this is a pretty good deal.
(reddit talk about phenibut seemed like the most unbiased source.)
I think we should test the efficacy of these supplements. Meh could do a double blind study using the interns we saved from the Edible Arrangements catastrophe. You could use the expiring snacks as the placebo.
Uh, you did get the interns out of the conference room, didn’t you??
Does it have sucralose? Probably. Everything has sucralose. I should eat one serving of every product with sucralose and use the executive bathroom at their headquarters to show them what they’re doing.
Carla tossed back a handful of Crash capsules. She chased them with a bottle of Pinot Noir from Oregon, hoping one or the other would help her finally sleep.
She closed her eyes.
She could still hear it.
She could still hear Fred turning into a puddle, the soft hiss like a balloon losing air. She could still hear Jessie, her last seconds filled with rage you killed us, bitch, you killed us all. The news reports, too, the rookie cop and the station and the hazmat zone at the port. She heard all of that in her head, even over the hum of the Winix keeping her room clean. There would be no sleep tonight.
Carla knew what she had to do. She booked the next flight through Brisbane and on to Papua New Guinea. Carla was going to see Joshua.
Phenibut (beta-phenyl-gamma-aminobutyric acid HCl) is a neuropsychotropic drug that was discovered and introduced into clinical practice in Russia in the 1960s. It has anxiolytic and nootropic (cognition enhancing) effects.
Citation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11830761/
When the chemist’s coffee (CNS stimulant) kicks in, he’ll explain how explain how a CNS depressant works…oh wait, there it is.
Maltodextrin, sucralose, artificial coloring? No thank you, killed the healthy right there. Agreed about the water before bed, too. Just take a little melatonin and ornithine. Plus, ornithine boosts ur HGH. Win-win. ND’s recommend, not the Internet.
@RiotDemon Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve tried a bunch of stuff over the years – that particular one just leaves me groggy, especially when I still don’t get to sleep. Mostly I just try to distract myself for an hour or so and try again. Success rates are low but it does happy occasionally.
@hey_zeus lol, no, you wont clean the sink then drive to taco bell at 4 am and have no recollection of it on this supplement. Ambien is dangerous stuff.
@CatTheMarauder But you are presuming that what they say is in there actually is in there at the concentration they say it is. Not regulated like a drug. Lots of junk like this, when tested has “issues” along that line and at times some things they found had no “active” ingredient in it at all.
Their protein powder was pretty good, tbh. When are we gonna have a round two on that? I mean, I hate to presume, but I’m pretty sure you didn’t sell out of your marshmallow protein powder…
I’ve had trouble sleeping for all of my thirty-something years. My mother, who’s very much into self-medication, was constantly having me try new things to help me out; valerian capsules, herbal teas, etc. None of it worked.
Then about a year ago, she recommended I try melatonin supplements. I expected them to be as useless as everything else she was having me try, but I picked up a bottle of 5mg tablets from Wal-Mart, just so I could tell her I tried them. Imagine my surprise when I found that they worked! A single tablet at bed time and I’m out within half an hour.
I strongly recommend others with trouble sleeping try melatonin. Maybe it won’t work for your body chemistry, but it sure did for me, and it’s more natural and less expensive than Nytol or Ambien.
@Albright Might want to add another couple of pills to the meletonin for it to (possibly) be even more effective. See Steve Gibson’s Healthy Sleep Formula. Gibson isn’t selling anything, just recommending that a combo of time release meletonin, Niacinimide and (optionally) Oleamide seems to work better than meletonin alone. At the least, if you have difficulty falling asleep after waking in the middle of the night, the time release meletonin might be worth a try. Meletonin usually is evacuated from the body a couple of hours after you take it so it’s good for falling asleep but not so much for helping you fall asleep again. If, like me, you wake up several times a night, this formula is a godsend.
This one’s kinda fucked up Meh. I mean, selling the stuff from the get go is dicey, but your write up doesn’t address the presence of phenibut. This looks like a pretty low dose per serving, but you really need to acknowledge that in your write up.
I’d avoid drinking booze with this stuff. They’re both downers (specifically GABA or at least potential GABA agonists in the case of the snake oil in question).
so this stuff contains 300mg phenibut per serving. it’s not a huge amount, but it’s enough to do something; i would certainly feel 300mg phenibut.
do NOT take this stuff every day. DO NOT. seriously. phenibut is habit forming and withdrawals are supposedly pretty hellish. keep at least 5 days between uses. this supplement will most definitely work, but it’s most definitely because of the phenibut lol.
Like someone else mentioned if this was in pill from I would buy it. At my age drinking anything right before bed means an extra trip to bathroom in the middle of the night. Really don’t want to think about if this stuff actually works and …
No meh staff wants to chime in on the fact there’s an actual anxiety drug in here that hasn’t been approved by the FDA, builds a tolerance quickly, can cause physical withdrawal symptoms, can take 5+ hours to kick in, has a very long half life, is dangerous if mixed with other drugs or alcohol, and has some severe potential side effects if you overdose?
Seeing as it wasn’t even mentioned in the writeup, I really think you should at least send a warning email to the people who bought it. Only takes one person taking this after drinking (or taking it and then drinking since it can take a long time for the effects to happen) and you could have a tragedy.
Look, here’s the thing–it is a legal product. Folks buying this know what they are buying–shit the blurb tells them NOT to buy it. Quitcher hand-wringing ya nancy.
@Seeds@therealjrn Both of you are presuming there actually really IS the active ingredient in there at the dose they say. Plenty of unregulated junk, when assays have been done, turn out to have a different dose of the active ingredient and some stuff turns out to have none of it in there.
That being said because, if it really does have in it what they say it has in it, and it can interact with other stuff, certainly meh needed to be up front disclosure rather than do the usual meh, off the wall descriptions (especially not disclosing the drug and calling it a placebo). This is a safety issue in ways that 99% of what is sold here is not (well maybe the exploding hover board things are in that category too…). And that can get tangled with legal liability in worst case. Maybe you should have sold this in Europe where people don’t sue for tripping over their own feet on purpose?
Works great for me. I can use it several days in a row and have no ill effect on my sleep when I don’t use it.
Don’t wake up feeling groggy at all.
Only issue I seem to notice is that I sometimes wake up with an increased urgency to urinate (no increase in volume, just feel like I have to “go”) - but I am able to go right back to sleep, which is pretty much something I’ve never been able to do.
Glad I got 4 jars. Of it happens to show up again I will get a case.
Specs
Directions
Mix 1 scoop in 4 to 6 oz of water until dissolved; consume at least 30 minutes before going to bed
What’s in the Box?
2x Fruit punch flavored Crash powder (60 servings total)
or
2x Blue razz flavored Crash powder (60 servings total)
Pictures
CRASH!
This one!
That one!
All the facts!
Popeye, more like shuteye
Price Comparison
$59.90 (for 2) at whatever this website is
$55.98 for 2 pack of similar capsules at Amazon
Warranty
90 Day Mediocre
Estimated Delivery
Monday, July 13th - Thursday, July 16th
Zzzzzzzzz
@Kidsandliz
Didn’t work for me. I tried 1 scoop, then 2.
If I consumed then I’d feel like I was Elvis.
Friends don’t let friends Crash and drive.
WTF???
Is this the Sean Hannity of Meh offerings?
(we didn’t see this one coming…)
sure
/giphy juicy-real-road
Waste of $8. I can fall asleep any place while doing anhyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyjyj
I’m disappointed I’m you, meh. This is so far below mediocre I don’t even know what’s happening right now.
@DaveInSoCal You are Meh? I wouldn’t be disappointed with that!
So is this for musclebros who want to roofie themselves?
@tizio do you even sleep bruh?
@tizio gotta have rest days too if you want to see gains bro
@tizio this is gains for your brains. I can tell from your posting that you are in the negative and this meh is for you.
Can’t believe I stayed up for this!
@Hopkins3030 Well, if you bought this then that wouldn’t be an issue, now would it?
@Hopkins3030 Maybe you need some Crash
Don’t sleep on this deal.
I am so down for this!
/image jealous-guilty-pesto
@ConAndLibrarian
What the hey. That looks delicious.
Trying to “ crash” in tonight eh meh?
Umm…bulk sleeping pills? Let me know if you need to talk Meh…
I’m in! Why not?
Im gonna have to sleep on this deal
Great write up today, Meh! Appreciate your full disclosure and that you keepin’ it real, dawg.
Wanna save some money??
You won’t be awake when meh displays the next item.
@eeterrific Haha, had the same thought!
My favorite part of this is meh selling actual pharmacologically active CNS depressants and not realizing it.
@a_blanq_s Show-off
@a_blanq_s can you say that again in english? I’m not a botanist
@a_blanq_s yes, can you explain what you mean? I’m confused too
@uninflammable Sounds like he’s talking about Phenibut, which seems to be a (relatively) potent Central Nervous System depressant. Sounds pretty spooky, but to be fair alcohol is a CNS depressant.
E: It’s worth noting the current formulation of the Crash supplement on the ProSupp website has nearly identical ingredients, except for the Phenibut which has been removed. I’d wager to say its how Meh-meisters got its hands on it.
@rkess88 @uninflammable Ever seen one on a duck?
@rkess88 @uninflammable So they removed the one active ingredient from the current product, and this is the last ever chance to get the ‘good’ stuff?
@a_blanq_s @moonhat I found an article that at least looks rational about this stuff. Cosmonauts!
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/phenibut-is-neither-proven-nor-safe-as-a-prosocial-wonder-drug/
@bdb @rkess88 @uninflammable Phenibut was recently banned in Australia and the US may do it soon- they probably removed it in advance. Looks like GNC, ebay, and Amazon have stopped selling anything containing phenibut.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-23/what-is-phenibut-the-drug-suspected-in-school-overdose/9475814
Add date-rape drug to it’s uses.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/feb/23/banned-anti-anxiety-drug-phenibut-may-have-caused-gold-coast-students-overdose
/image pudgy-airy-harbor
If nothing else, it’s a mildly nutritious water flavor enhancer.
Bought a set of each flavor.
@Dizavid That’s one gorgeous pic.
If this also eliminates stress, I’m in.
@JT954 oh phenibut will definitely do that, look it up.
Phenibut is more a drug than what people traditionally think of as supplements. It’s just not approved for medical use here.
Hey, science doesn’t say all supplements are useless. B12 supplementation is reportedly vital for vegans to avoid having severe nerve problems after about 10 years. Though I say this as someone who was vegan for 21 years without ever taking B12 supplements and still didn’t exhibit any nerve problems, so maybe even science is made a liar when it recommends a supplement.
Anyway, I loved the honesty of this write up. Even covering undeclared contaminants. Magnifique.
@ravenblack I was vegan for about six weeks, but I remember reading you need so little b12 that you probably get enough just because you’re not thoroughly washing every speck of manure off your vegetables. Appetizing, right?
@dave Yeah, that used to be the popular belief but now science says you need stupid unrealistic amounts of B12. RDAs for vitamins are mostly ridiculous and made up as far as I was able to tell.
@dave why would I just wash off nutrients like that? I paid for them after all
Shit-talk all you want. I liked the blue Crash you sold so I’m in for some red Crash.
/buy -q 3
@therealjrn Sorry, this deal contains 2 unique items and I’m not sure which one you want. You can review how to pick one, or just try ordering from the checkout page.
@mediocrebot Really? OK.
I got this from morningsave and really enjoyed it
Time to re up
/giphy drugs
You buy this crap so you can fall asleep before you can buy this crap.
/buy --color red -q 3
@therealjrn Sorry, this deal contains 2 unique items and I’m not sure which one you want. You can review how to pick one, or just try ordering from the checkout page.
@mediocrebot You’re starting to piss me off. How can I relax now???
@mediocrebot I went to the order page and FOUND OUT I CAN GET WAY, WAY, WAY MORE THAN THREE!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!1!
For those who workout regularly the idea of a sleep aid isn’t a bad one. Remember how all those studies show even moderate intensity workouts increase your metabolism and give you energy?
Sometimes you don’t want energy at 10pm and have to be up at 4am.
If you’re not super careful, you screw the timing up and more often life dictates you can only workout at a crummy time.
So getting help to calm and conk our isn’t a bad idea. That’s why these supplements exist. Sticking to reputable companies would be a good idea. And it’s certainly better for you than most prescription sleep aids. For most people the answer is an antihistamine (benedryle and unisom are nearly the same thing) and some melatonin (legit studied and really works - mildly, as it states).
So then there’s this garbage. Which I almost purchased since I do sometimes use such products - moreso the ones that also function as a nutritional supplement (you grow when you sleep bro!)
But this is a MIX POWDER. It is guaranteed to taste like toxic piss. Blue Razz is supplement code-speak for “tastes like burning.” If it has been capsules I’d probably have bought it.
But blue razz? Gross. Two rules in the supplement world: blue razz is the worst fruit flavor and chocolate is always the worst of the “baked goods” flavors. Avoid avoid avoid.
@knrg Your two rules aren’t rules at all.
@knrg @uscpsycho That’s the third rule in the supplement world.
@knrg I got the red and took it last night. Great taste! Slept like a champ and woke up ready to rock.
Hubby swallows an unholy cocktail of prescription, OTC, and herbal sleep aids and still deals with insomnia… He often begs me (I do all the shopping) to get him tryptophan pills… May be total bunk, but if he can fall asleep with nothing more than a new placebo, it’ll be well worth it… In for 3!
/image fictitious-pensive-foot
@ciabelle make sure he doesn’t take other things with this- no idea how Phenibut will interact with other drugs.
You might think it’s phenibut this stuff might actually work!
i’ll stick with my pot gummies. meh, you guys are beginning to suck again.
well this is an overdose waiting to happen
I already sleep like a rock, if I take these will they help me break through into a new state of consciousness in my dreams?
@uninflammable You’ll pull a Rip Van Winkle and wake up in 1,000 years. You don’t need a supplement to achieve that, though, just listen to one of Nick Cave’s most recent albums while drifting off.
@MindlessMachina even better, I’ve got court in June and these’ll get here with time to spare.
Can’t arrest me if I’m hibernating and no one can find me
Well it is unusual, and it is priced right, I guess… but… um…
So KUDOS to keeping it weird.
/me slowly backs away.
Wow, I got angry when I saw the product but was quite amused by the write up and stupid excited when you linked to science based medicine (one of my favorite blogs). Thanks for calling the industry out as a scam… even as you sort of join it.
After going a bit deeper into “what the hell is phenibut” which seems to be the one real ingredient in this thing, and comparing the price-per-phenibut-milligram between this and raw phenibuts, this is a pretty good deal.
(reddit talk about phenibut seemed like the most unbiased source.)
I think we should test the efficacy of these supplements. Meh could do a double blind study using the interns we saved from the Edible Arrangements catastrophe. You could use the expiring snacks as the placebo.
Uh, you did get the interns out of the conference room, didn’t you??
@mehcuda67 The interns are likely stuffed in some of the bigger and heavier fuko boxes they are sending out
@Kidsandliz @mehcuda67 Oh! I want one!
Does it have sucralose? Probably. Everything has sucralose. I should eat one serving of every product with sucralose and use the executive bathroom at their headquarters to show them what they’re doing.
/image passive-different-curry
What the hell. It’s late and I’m not sleeping yet.
determined-passing-peach
Carla tossed back a handful of Crash capsules. She chased them with a bottle of Pinot Noir from Oregon, hoping one or the other would help her finally sleep.
She closed her eyes.
She could still hear it.
She could still hear Fred turning into a puddle, the soft hiss like a balloon losing air. She could still hear Jessie, her last seconds filled with rage you killed us, bitch, you killed us all. The news reports, too, the rookie cop and the station and the hazmat zone at the port. She heard all of that in her head, even over the hum of the Winix keeping her room clean. There would be no sleep tonight.
Carla knew what she had to do. She booked the next flight through Brisbane and on to Papua New Guinea. Carla was going to see Joshua.
@dtertman I really admire people who can write so compactly. This post pleased me.
Umm what in the fresh hell is this? Meh has now hit peak random.
looks interesting…
/giphy motionless-gusty-story
@moonhat But, but…she’s moving…
bring back $5 drones or something
For several months visiting Meh.com be like…
My wife likes this crap.
/giphy upbeat-kind-pigeon
My order number of new-condemned-burrito makes me uneasy about this purchase.
Phenibut (beta-phenyl-gamma-aminobutyric acid HCl) is a neuropsychotropic drug that was discovered and introduced into clinical practice in Russia in the 1960s. It has anxiolytic and nootropic (cognition enhancing) effects.
Citation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11830761/
When the chemist’s coffee (CNS stimulant) kicks in, he’ll explain how explain how a CNS depressant works…oh wait, there it is.
I don’t see how something you have to mix with water is going to help me sleep. It’ll just make me have to get up to go to the loo.
Maltodextrin, sucralose, artificial coloring? No thank you, killed the healthy right there. Agreed about the water before bed, too. Just take a little melatonin and ornithine. Plus, ornithine boosts ur HGH. Win-win. ND’s recommend, not the Internet.
I’ll mix this with Mountain Dew and see which chemical wins.
I struggle to have a good night’s sleep, but I’m super-wary of this as a solution. I’m not of the thinking “it’s cheap so I’ll try it”.
@ACraigL lf you struggle to go to sleep, melatonin is great. It doesn’t affect how long you sleep though. Wears off pretty quickly.
@RiotDemon Going to sleep is easy. It’s staying that way that plagues me. Routinely up at 3:30, lucky if I get back to sleep before work.
@ACraigL maybe try it in the middle of the night to get you back to sleep?
@RiotDemon Thanks for the suggestion. I’ve tried a bunch of stuff over the years – that particular one just leaves me groggy, especially when I still don’t get to sleep. Mostly I just try to distract myself for an hour or so and try again. Success rates are low but it does happy occasionally.
I like my drugs FDA approved. So no thanks.
@sammydog01 Thanks for keeping us safe, Big Government.
@medz @sammydog01 thalidomide isomers.
@sammydog01 @Seeds
/google thalidomide isomers
Thalidomide - American Chemical Society
https://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/molecule-of-the-week/archive/t/thalidomide.html
@medz @Seeds Thalidomide is a prefect example- it was used in Europe and Canada but not the US because the FDA didn’t approve it. Thank you FDA.
https://blogs.fda.gov/fdavoice/index.php/2012/02/50-years-after-thalidomide-why-regulation-matters/.
@medz @sammydog01 it’s my go-to whenever someone complains about the FDA approval process causing drugs to be too expensive/unavailable
@Seeds
/giphy goofy-mournful-family
Let me see if it works better than my ambien.
@hey_zeus lol, no, you wont clean the sink then drive to taco bell at 4 am and have no recollection of it on this supplement. Ambien is dangerous stuff.
Supplements may be quackery, but anyone that’s taken ZMA will attest, this stuff will definitely make you snooze.
In for 2!
/buy --flavor “fruit punch” -q 2
@Pufferfishy It worked! Your order number is: drastic-lousy-lemon
/image drastic lousy lemon
@Pufferfishy ZMA keeps me wired, actually.
this stuff will work though, because it has phenibut, which is an actual drug that you can feel good with!
@CatTheMarauder But you are presuming that what they say is in there actually is in there at the concentration they say it is. Not regulated like a drug. Lots of junk like this, when tested has “issues” along that line and at times some things they found had no “active” ingredient in it at all.
Their protein powder was pretty good, tbh. When are we gonna have a round two on that? I mean, I hate to presume, but I’m pretty sure you didn’t sell out of your marshmallow protein powder…
/wootstalker https://shirt.woot.com/offers/must-be-all-the-turkey
Must be all the turkey?
Price: $8.00
Condition: New
@ACraigL $8?
Same deal was $15 on Morning Save. I was on the fence then; I’m over the fence and bruised now.
I’ve had trouble sleeping for all of my thirty-something years. My mother, who’s very much into self-medication, was constantly having me try new things to help me out; valerian capsules, herbal teas, etc. None of it worked.
Then about a year ago, she recommended I try melatonin supplements. I expected them to be as useless as everything else she was having me try, but I picked up a bottle of 5mg tablets from Wal-Mart, just so I could tell her I tried them. Imagine my surprise when I found that they worked! A single tablet at bed time and I’m out within half an hour.
I strongly recommend others with trouble sleeping try melatonin. Maybe it won’t work for your body chemistry, but it sure did for me, and it’s more natural and less expensive than Nytol or Ambien.
@Albright Might want to add another couple of pills to the meletonin for it to (possibly) be even more effective. See Steve Gibson’s Healthy Sleep Formula. Gibson isn’t selling anything, just recommending that a combo of time release meletonin, Niacinimide and (optionally) Oleamide seems to work better than meletonin alone. At the least, if you have difficulty falling asleep after waking in the middle of the night, the time release meletonin might be worth a try. Meletonin usually is evacuated from the body a couple of hours after you take it so it’s good for falling asleep but not so much for helping you fall asleep again. If, like me, you wake up several times a night, this formula is a godsend.
This one’s kinda fucked up Meh. I mean, selling the stuff from the get go is dicey, but your write up doesn’t address the presence of phenibut. This looks like a pretty low dose per serving, but you really need to acknowledge that in your write up.
I’d avoid drinking booze with this stuff. They’re both downers (specifically GABA or at least potential GABA agonists in the case of the snake oil in question).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenibut
It’s not a controlled substance, but it’s potentially quite nasty in large larger doses or combined with other things.
@CylustheVirus yeah, meh is literally selling drugs today. lol
Ooh, phenibut! Latvian prescription sedatives! Unregulated in the US!
Did someone say unregulated sedatives?
/giphy obtuse-annoyed-leech
Could this stuff also help solve my problem of premature rejuvenation?
so this stuff contains 300mg phenibut per serving. it’s not a huge amount, but it’s enough to do something; i would certainly feel 300mg phenibut.
do NOT take this stuff every day. DO NOT. seriously. phenibut is habit forming and withdrawals are supposedly pretty hellish. keep at least 5 days between uses. this supplement will most definitely work, but it’s most definitely because of the phenibut lol.
ooh should have told me this is something unregulated and prescription only in Russia.
now i want some. do we snort this?
@username “We” might not, but I say go ahead! Give it a whirl!
Like someone else mentioned if this was in pill from I would buy it. At my age drinking anything right before bed means an extra trip to bathroom in the middle of the night. Really don’t want to think about if this stuff actually works and …
@dino2269 No worries, tomorrow they’ll be selling rubber sheets.
@brhfl @dino2269 Mehbe some adult diapers…actually, you only mix this with about 4oz of water.
From one of my favorite bands…
Wide awake
I’m wide awake
Wide awake
I’m not sleeping
Oh, no, no, no…
@snapster @dave
No meh staff wants to chime in on the fact there’s an actual anxiety drug in here that hasn’t been approved by the FDA, builds a tolerance quickly, can cause physical withdrawal symptoms, can take 5+ hours to kick in, has a very long half life, is dangerous if mixed with other drugs or alcohol, and has some severe potential side effects if you overdose?
Seeing as it wasn’t even mentioned in the writeup, I really think you should at least send a warning email to the people who bought it. Only takes one person taking this after drinking (or taking it and then drinking since it can take a long time for the effects to happen) and you could have a tragedy.
@Seeds
Says the nickname “seeds”
Look, here’s the thing–it is a legal product. Folks buying this know what they are buying–shit the blurb tells them NOT to buy it. Quitcher hand-wringing ya nancy.
/giphy lighten up francis
@therealjrn I’m mainly concerned about the risk of people drinking or taking other medications with it since the writeup calls it placebo.
I don’t know that everyone knows what they’re buying- I wouldn’t have known that it had real medicine in it if I hadn’t read all of the posts here.
Meh can sell research chems here for all I care, but when there are real risks it’s important to be clear with people about what they’re getting.
Not sure what the name “Seeds” has to do with anything, “asshole”
@Seeds
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Shit, I worry about your pot ingestion, but I aint gonna try to shut down your dealer. There’s a point where personal responsibility comes into play…
Taken as directed, this product is safe as your mother’s milk.
@therealjrn
Had to quit for work. Seeds has to do with something else. Neither here nor there.
@Seeds And I am an asshole! Thanks for noticing! I’m not quite a perfect asshole, but I’m trying!
@Seeds
Hippie.
@Seeds @therealjrn Both of you are presuming there actually really IS the active ingredient in there at the dose they say. Plenty of unregulated junk, when assays have been done, turn out to have a different dose of the active ingredient and some stuff turns out to have none of it in there.
That being said because, if it really does have in it what they say it has in it, and it can interact with other stuff, certainly meh needed to be up front disclosure rather than do the usual meh, off the wall descriptions (especially not disclosing the drug and calling it a placebo). This is a safety issue in ways that 99% of what is sold here is not (well maybe the exploding hover board things are in that category too…). And that can get tangled with legal liability in worst case. Maybe you should have sold this in Europe where people don’t sue for tripping over their own feet on purpose?
@Kidsandliz @Seeds Fair enough.
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@Kidsandliz @therealjrn
Valerian Root - smelly stinky supplement. Would be a better sleep aid if it was Valerian & the City of a Thousand ZZzzz.
@meh, omg you guys are hilarious.
I lost it at “makes your urine nutrient dense.”
I love that you’re selling this and making fun of pseudoscience at the same time
@DavidChurchRN i am just making fun of you
Natural, un-natural, etc., this is a can of untested, unregulated drugs!
@radi0j0hn Let’s party!
I’m so desperate for sleep–I hope that 8oz of water doesn’t have me up peeing 1/2 the night.
Anyone else take this and suddenly start feeling really dizzy? And not in fun way.
@joflow no issues with it for me. Other than blue raz tasting like blue ass just like every other blue raz supp.
Did have some super deep dreams the first night I tried it though. (I don’t typically sleep “deep” enough to dream)
This shit works.
I slept all day.
Don’t use this if you’re already short on sleep.
@Dizavid
/giphy this
This stuff makes me mello, but sleep isn’t part of it’s effects. It actually keeps me up. I’ll stick with melatonin as needed.
This stuff works for me, and the new 3rd arm growing out my forehead is kinda neat too. T astees like fizzies. Does put me to sleep though.
Works great for me. I can use it several days in a row and have no ill effect on my sleep when I don’t use it.
Don’t wake up feeling groggy at all.
Only issue I seem to notice is that I sometimes wake up with an increased urgency to urinate (no increase in volume, just feel like I have to “go”) - but I am able to go right back to sleep, which is pretty much something I’ve never been able to do.
Glad I got 4 jars. Of it happens to show up again I will get a case.