What’s the catch, meh? Are they caffeinated? Sweetened with stevia, whatever the hell that is? Maybe monkfruit? Xylosorbitalcholicol? Made entirely out of recycled sponges to save the planet? Turns your ass into a brown fountain? Where’s the chicory root?? What trendy diet are these designed for?? There’s gotta be something terribly wrong with these.
1st for meh corn nuts, than probotics in desert form, now beans. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Last time we scored 12 packs of beans we were sniffing Vicks for dayz. We are afraid we might not survive a bean disorientation these dayz.
@elpepe, 1st of all, I think it’s ‘best buy’, but what that really means is the manufacture’s ‘best sell’ date. They try to appease the Stockholders, not the Consumers, so Out with the kinda new batch & In with the newest batch; the expiration date has nothing to do with 6•12•2022 any more than day old bread is a day old!!
@1DisabledWarVet@elpepe To appease the stockholders, they must sell the product. And to sell the product, they must first appease the buyers at the major store chains and wholesalers, who uniformly want the longest nominal shelf life assignable. That’s why things like Twinkies, which had a shelf life of under a month back in 1960 are now rated for many times that long - and contain numerous additives and substitutes for the original ingredients in support of that goal. Do not assume that the “Best By” date is reliably a “Still Good On” date; it is often more than just an exaggeration. The product is supposed to be safe to eat at that point, but there’s nothing saying that it still has to actually be “as fresh as when it was made”, and many things emphatically are not.
@elpepe@werehatrack, yes, the big corps do appease the buying customer,…How? By presenting the item on the store shelves to be sold & that is about the extent of that appeasement gesture. The very nx gesture is aimed back at the stockholder,… they charge the highest price possible to You & I. No, I see no reason to explain, justify, or overlook any of their bad practices, or their greed! BTW, we don’t get a Golden Parachute when we screw up, or get thrown under the bus, or to the side! And, yes, CEOs Are also/usually large stockholders, and they need appeasement too!
@kjschweitzer@troy And that tells me that the Sea Salt sold a lot faster for whoever had these sitting in their DC getting too close to the sell-before date. This does not mean that the SriRacha flavor is worse, it just reflects the fact that a lot more people are willing to try a novelty flavor than a presumed-safe one. And if they had previously tried some of the novelty flavors of the Love Corn, they had really good reason to give the SriRacha the stinkeye.
@Joedetroit Yup, they will arrive by 5/26 but it’s on you to eat 'em by 6/12 (or really, not care too much because they’ll be good for some time after)
@2many2no Curious to know how you think that is a mislabeling. mcg is micrograms. It takes 1000 mcg to equal 1mg. So what they are saying there is that is 0.2mg (less than half a milligram) but they don’t write it that way because that isn’t the standard. It’s better to write it as 200mcg.
@2many2no I cannot find a reference to your claim that it must be written in mg even though it is a very small amount of potassium so scientifically should be written in mcg. Can you provide a link to the FDA page that requires it to be listed in mg even though it’s less than 1mg per serving?
@cengland0 It’s a convention, not a requirement as far as I know.
You could say the K content is 200,000 mcg and be correct, but conventionally it is not listed that way.
200 mg = 200,000 mcg = 4% of the 4700 mg/day RDA.
The label numbers do not match.
@2many2no I still fail to find a reference link to it being conventially listed as mg instead of mcg. Also, according to the Mayo Clinic, there is no RDA for potassium and they say 1600-2000 mg is adequate not the 4700mg (or 4.7g if that doesn’t blow your mind) that you claim.
Because lack of potassium is rare, there is no RDA or RNI for this mineral. However, it is thought that 1600 to 2000 mg (40 to 50 milliequivalents [mEq]) per day for adults is adequate.
I doubt you will find a reputable RDA for potassium because the National Institutes of Health says, “Adequate Intake (AI): Intake at this level is assumed to ensure nutritional adequacy; established when evidence is insufficient to develop an RDA.” So they created AI figures for potassium instead of RDA.
Anyway, I would just state that the amount of potassium in one serving of these beans would be what the USDA says it is: 100g portion of beans = 436mg of potassium. Since the package contains 4 ounces and each portion is 1 ounce, then the conversion is 28.3g = 1oz; 1oz of beans has 123.388 mg of potassium.
This means that the package probably is significantly understating the amount of potassium in each serving when saying 200mcg but that 4% may or may not be correct since there really isn’t a standard RDA. Even the packaging calls this a DV% (Daily Value %*) and not %RDA.
Genuinely curious - the label says “0g Added Sugar” but sugar is literally one of the ingredients listed. Does that mean the added sugar is small enough that it rounds down to 0g per serving or am I misunderstanding something? Does “0g added sugar” mean something different than “No added sugar”?
@sdevine42 I don’t know specifically about added sugar, but there are definitely some things you can do on labels that isn’t technically 100% correct. For example, if there’s less than 5 calories, the FDA allows you to label it as 0 calories. This is why 4 calorie Sweet and Low packets are labelled as 0 calories.
@sdevine42 That’s very common and not really misleading. For example, should they round up from 0.2 to 1.0? But I get it.
Also, something… say, milk, for example, could be labeled as having no ADDED sugar while containing 8g of sugar per 12oz. (These numbers I just made up, so probably not accurate.) Milk naturally contains lactose (milk sugar), so it can’t contain 0g of sugar unless you’re buying a further processed version.
@mehvid1@sdevine42 You see “added sugars” labeling in things that are sweet from naturally occurring sugars in the ingredients - like fruit and fruit juices. Disgustingly, you can make foods with mangos (one of the highest sugar content fruits) and someone will think it’s brilliant to add even more diabetes-inducing hypoglycemic HFCS to that shit. Sigh.
Presumably everyone who has a soy allergy already knows that edamame is just another name for soybeans, but I’ll mention it anyway.
And that said, I’ve tried other roasted-soybean snacks in the past, both Improved-With-Edamame-Labeling and Just Sold As Soybeans. Meh.
And I’m not going to assume that the marked stale date is pessimistic, either. I’ve been bitten by manufacturers who just slapped a date on there without ever testing to see whether their packing controlled the product oxidation and hydration rate enough to keep the contents from being unpleasantly stale long before it was reached. Your “friendly neighborhood” Feds are no longer permitted to actually give a crap about whether the junk in a bag of snacks is actually edible unless they have loads of customer or medical field reports and maybe a few autopsies to call it into question. I prefer not being a statistic in the “oops” column.
@werehatrack Different “bean”, but I’ve been burned by two different brands of hulled sunflower seeds. Both had about half the packs go rancid well within the sell-by date.
@werehatrack It happened to me… a few times. Latest was Hormel pepperoni that was moldy. I complained & they sent me two $4.99 coupons for my trouble. So I used those on two other crappy Hormel products. Fuckin Hormel.
And nobody has addressed the one question I would absolutely want answered before I’d open a bag of them; are these tooth-shattering nodules like the original CornNuts, or pleasantly cruncy nuggets closer to regular corn chips? I’ve had roasted-bean snacks that fell all across that range, and the hard end is not something I want to find again.
@werehatrack I can’t speak for this brand, but I have eaten several different roasted edamame products, and none have been anywhere near as crunchy as CornNuts. Most have only been slightly crunchy, and soften quickly in the mouth if you don’t bite them immediately.
@werehatrack Got mine today, and they are not the tooth-shattering hardness of CornNuts, they are pleasantly crunchy and spicy. (of course, much to late for you to make a decision on buying them…)
@Lirleni I grabbed the non-spicy ones from SideDeal instead, and they’re decidedly meh. Boooooring. Not awful, just not affirmatively much of anything. I’ll mix them with other stuff.
perennial-original-dirt - I am so excited! After 11 days I believe (not certain) that my edamame snacks have left Irving, TX. One can only imagine (neither Meh nor FedEx have any idea) that I will receive them prior to the rapidly approaching “sell by” date.
@KREE Day 14 and still no delivery. Exciting to note, however, that my edamame has moved from Irving, TX to West Virginia. I live in PA so this is considerable progress in the last two weeks.
Specs
Product: 12-Pack: The Only Bean Edamame Bean (Sriracha)
Model: 860006036218
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
$53.88 for 12 bags on Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Thursday, Aug 4 - Monday, Aug 8
Whew, I was worried about the best eaten by date, but then I noticed the 90 day warranty.
Thanks Meh!
/buy
@shahnm It worked! Your order number is: tedious-inexpensive-mushroom
/image tedious inexpensive mushroom
I’ll give you 69 cents a bag
/giphy um, no
are these Bluetooth enabled?
@Xieneus no, they do green tooth
@medz Your ability to recall that skit is beyond amazing. Thank you for enriching my life this day.
@sglewis this skit is the extent of my edamame familiarity.
@medz Brilliant!
/giphy I’d buy that for a dollar
Guess I should have used YouTube!
What’s the catch, meh? Are they caffeinated? Sweetened with stevia, whatever the hell that is? Maybe monkfruit? Xylosorbitalcholicol? Made entirely out of recycled sponges to save the planet? Turns your ass into a brown fountain? Where’s the chicory root?? What trendy diet are these designed for?? There’s gotta be something terribly wrong with these.
@awk Mmm… Xylosorbitalcholicol
/giphy homer aaugh
@awk They’re not Keto. Pass.
@awk They expire in a month.
@awk @Trinityscrew More like three weeks, but you’ll only have about two weeks left when they arrive. Then you get to play Stale Date Roulette.
I’ll pass.
Maybe if they were pumpkin spiced I would consider them /s
/buy
@arbdef It worked! Your order number is: measured-feared-mollusk
/image measured feared mollusk
1st for meh corn nuts, than probotics in desert form, now beans. Gotta draw the line somewhere. Last time we scored 12 packs of beans we were sniffing Vicks for dayz. We are afraid we might not survive a bean disorientation these dayz.
And the Sea Salt variety is the higher priced option over at SideDeal
by the time these arrive you’ll have to eat two bags per day before the “best by” date gets you.
@elpepe The hazy cloud of death following anyone who attempts that will have the FBI called on them.
@elpepe, 1st of all, I think it’s ‘best buy’, but what that really means is the manufacture’s ‘best sell’ date. They try to appease the Stockholders, not the Consumers, so Out with the kinda new batch & In with the newest batch; the expiration date has nothing to do with 6•12•2022 any more than day old bread is a day old!!
@1DisabledWarVet @elpepe To appease the stockholders, they must sell the product. And to sell the product, they must first appease the buyers at the major store chains and wholesalers, who uniformly want the longest nominal shelf life assignable. That’s why things like Twinkies, which had a shelf life of under a month back in 1960 are now rated for many times that long - and contain numerous additives and substitutes for the original ingredients in support of that goal. Do not assume that the “Best By” date is reliably a “Still Good On” date; it is often more than just an exaggeration. The product is supposed to be safe to eat at that point, but there’s nothing saying that it still has to actually be “as fresh as when it was made”, and many things emphatically are not.
@elpepe i ate a frozen pizza that expired 2.5 years ago, i think i can handle a roasted bean thats barely past its prime
@elpepe @werehatrack, yes, the big corps do appease the buying customer,…How? By presenting the item on the store shelves to be sold & that is about the extent of that appeasement gesture. The very nx gesture is aimed back at the stockholder,… they charge the highest price possible to You & I. No, I see no reason to explain, justify, or overlook any of their bad practices, or their greed! BTW, we don’t get a Golden Parachute when we screw up, or get thrown under the bus, or to the side! And, yes, CEOs Are also/usually large stockholders, and they need appeasement too!
Glad to know these are the bean type of Edamame. I hate the soy ones.
@hchavers hurrdurr
What’s your target demo for this kind of “humor”
@hchavers @thechinglish That joke was definitely past the best buy date.
Not too worried about the date.
/giphy balmy-charming-jeans
@eethomp Yellow stars, blue diamonds and green edamame!
@eethomp @ybmuG They’re magically delicious!
These are best ground up and snorted during testimony.
@mike808, I think Johnny has much more awesome stuff to snort than these beans!
VAN GOGH! MANGO! TANGO! AWESOME!
@mediocrebot, ASSHO!!
@mike808
/image amber heard meme ikea
@1DisabledWarVet @TimW
Are you referring to the “Mega Pint” jar?
Meh shouldve had Sea salt; side deal sirache.
@kjschweitzer Except we have 1/7th the inventory on Sea Salt
@kjschweitzer @troy And that tells me that the Sea Salt sold a lot faster for whoever had these sitting in their DC getting too close to the sell-before date. This does not mean that the SriRacha flavor is worse, it just reflects the fact that a lot more people are willing to try a novelty flavor than a presumed-safe one. And if they had previously tried some of the novelty flavors of the Love Corn, they had really good reason to give the SriRacha the stinkeye.
@kjschweitzer @troy Feh. Correction: A lot FEWER people are willing to try a novelty flavor.
Too much blood in caffeine stream earlier.
@kjschweitzer @troy @werehatrack I think either flavor will give you some kind of stink, don’t know if it’ll be stinkeye though…
Has anyone had these? Are they any good?
@robson, yeah, I was just wondering if these were ‘crunchy’ like Roasted Corn, or like Doritos¿? With No teeth, it does make a lot of difference!
I don’t purchase a lot of things when I wake up in the middle of the night with heartburn and anxiety but when I do, purchase magic beans from meh.
/buy
@lehigh It worked! Your order number is: grisly-decorative-thrill
/image grisly decorative thrill
@mediocrebot hmm, the plot involves a “secret high explosive mixture”… sriracha beans? https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0025530/
@lehigh Wow, seems like these are likely to cause more heartburn.
Would these arrive at my doorstep before 6/12/22?
@Joedetroit Yup, they will arrive by 5/26 but it’s on you to eat 'em by 6/12 (or really, not care too much because they’ll be good for some time after)
@troy “they’ll be good for some time after” maybe.
edit: I guess I am actually going to buy these anyhow & we shall find out.
/buy
@Stumpy91 It worked! Your order number is: yellow-cavernous-bedbug
/image yellow cavernous bedbug
This is the type of mislabeling I expect on products made in a place that’s known for poisoning edibles.
Where were these actually made?
@2many2no Curious to know how you think that is a mislabeling. mcg is micrograms. It takes 1000 mcg to equal 1mg. So what they are saying there is that is 0.2mg (less than half a milligram) but they don’t write it that way because that isn’t the standard. It’s better to write it as 200mcg.
@cengland0 Dietary potassium is measured in mg.
The adult RDA for potassium is 4700 mg/day, so if this is not mislabeled, 200 mcg would be 0.004 % of the RDA.
There are dietary ingredients labeled in mcg, for example Vitamin D, which is correct on the package.
@2many2no I cannot find a reference to your claim that it must be written in mg even though it is a very small amount of potassium so scientifically should be written in mcg. Can you provide a link to the FDA page that requires it to be listed in mg even though it’s less than 1mg per serving?
/giphy nerds
@cengland0 It’s a convention, not a requirement as far as I know.
You could say the K content is 200,000 mcg and be correct, but conventionally it is not listed that way.
200 mg = 200,000 mcg = 4% of the 4700 mg/day RDA.
The label numbers do not match.
@Pufferfishy You are correct, sir!
@2many2no I still fail to find a reference link to it being conventially listed as mg instead of mcg. Also, according to the Mayo Clinic, there is no RDA for potassium and they say 1600-2000 mg is adequate not the 4700mg (or 4.7g if that doesn’t blow your mind) that you claim.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/potassium-supplement-oral-route-parenteral-route/description/drg-20070753
I doubt you will find a reputable RDA for potassium because the National Institutes of Health says, “Adequate Intake (AI): Intake at this level is assumed to ensure nutritional adequacy; established when evidence is insufficient to develop an RDA.” So they created AI figures for potassium instead of RDA.
Anyway, I would just state that the amount of potassium in one serving of these beans would be what the USDA says it is: 100g portion of beans = 436mg of potassium. Since the package contains 4 ounces and each portion is 1 ounce, then the conversion is 28.3g = 1oz; 1oz of beans has 123.388 mg of potassium.
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/168411/nutrients
This means that the package probably is significantly understating the amount of potassium in each serving when saying 200mcg but that 4% may or may not be correct since there really isn’t a standard RDA. Even the packaging calls this a DV% (Daily Value %*) and not %RDA.
@cengland0 Perfect, I agree 100 %
@2many2no @cengland0 …finally Answered as SOLVED!
I would rather eat my own boiled intestines…
@Bumplepimp I once got boiled intestines in a $5 IRK bag. Best day ever.
@Bumplepimp Haggis, anyone?
So estrogen in a box? No thanks.
/buy
@osiris3mc It worked! Your order number is: scattered-fumbling-feta
/image scattered fumbling feta
Genuinely curious - the label says “0g Added Sugar” but sugar is literally one of the ingredients listed. Does that mean the added sugar is small enough that it rounds down to 0g per serving or am I misunderstanding something? Does “0g added sugar” mean something different than “No added sugar”?
@sdevine42 It does look like they are rounding down. That 0.2g of added sugar is closer to 0g than it is to 1g.
@Euniceandrich Ah yes I missed that, thanks. Clever marketing
@sdevine42 I don’t know specifically about added sugar, but there are definitely some things you can do on labels that isn’t technically 100% correct. For example, if there’s less than 5 calories, the FDA allows you to label it as 0 calories. This is why 4 calorie Sweet and Low packets are labelled as 0 calories.
@sdevine42 That’s very common and not really misleading. For example, should they round up from 0.2 to 1.0? But I get it.
Also, something… say, milk, for example, could be labeled as having no ADDED sugar while containing 8g of sugar per 12oz. (These numbers I just made up, so probably not accurate.) Milk naturally contains lactose (milk sugar), so it can’t contain 0g of sugar unless you’re buying a further processed version.
@mehvid1 @sdevine42 You see “added sugars” labeling in things that are sweet from naturally occurring sugars in the ingredients - like fruit and fruit juices. Disgustingly, you can make foods with mangos (one of the highest sugar content fruits) and someone will think it’s brilliant to add even more diabetes-inducing hypoglycemic HFCS to that shit. Sigh.
@mike808 @sdevine42 Sad, but true.
I’m interested & I like crunchy spicy snacks.
/buy
@a5meiser It worked! Your order number is: enduring-actually-bird
/image enduring actually bird
Presumably everyone who has a soy allergy already knows that edamame is just another name for soybeans, but I’ll mention it anyway.
And that said, I’ve tried other roasted-soybean snacks in the past, both Improved-With-Edamame-Labeling and Just Sold As Soybeans. Meh.
And I’m not going to assume that the marked stale date is pessimistic, either. I’ve been bitten by manufacturers who just slapped a date on there without ever testing to see whether their packing controlled the product oxidation and hydration rate enough to keep the contents from being unpleasantly stale long before it was reached. Your “friendly neighborhood” Feds are no longer permitted to actually give a crap about whether the junk in a bag of snacks is actually edible unless they have loads of customer or medical field reports and maybe a few autopsies to call it into question. I prefer not being a statistic in the “oops” column.
@werehatrack Different “bean”, but I’ve been burned by two different brands of hulled sunflower seeds. Both had about half the packs go rancid well within the sell-by date.
@werehatrack It happened to me… a few times. Latest was Hormel pepperoni that was moldy. I complained & they sent me two $4.99 coupons for my trouble. So I used those on two other crappy Hormel products. Fuckin Hormel.
And nobody has addressed the one question I would absolutely want answered before I’d open a bag of them; are these tooth-shattering nodules like the original CornNuts, or pleasantly cruncy nuggets closer to regular corn chips? I’ve had roasted-bean snacks that fell all across that range, and the hard end is not something I want to find again.
@werehatrack I can’t speak for this brand, but I have eaten several different roasted edamame products, and none have been anywhere near as crunchy as CornNuts. Most have only been slightly crunchy, and soften quickly in the mouth if you don’t bite them immediately.
@Limewater Most of the ones I have seen were freeze-dried, and those were relatively tender. But then there were a couple which weren’t, too.
@werehatrack Got mine today, and they are not the tooth-shattering hardness of CornNuts, they are pleasantly crunchy and spicy. (of course, much to late for you to make a decision on buying them…)
@Lirleni I grabbed the non-spicy ones from SideDeal instead, and they’re decidedly meh. Boooooring. Not awful, just not affirmatively much of anything. I’ll mix them with other stuff.
/buy
@shampshire It worked! Your order number is: damned-temperate-learning
/image damned temperate learning
Is this like those recipes that brag they can make something eggplant or tofu taste like steak?
Maybe so (I doubt it), but just imagine what you’d have if you started with better ingredients.
Like, I dunno, steak?
The boy that lives here, I guess he’s my son, he says he will eat some of them. So whatthehell…
/buy
@Joedetroit It worked! Your order number is: jokey-turbulent-templar
/image jokey turbulent templar
/buy
@Jebbielax It worked! Your order number is: outrageous-jumping-government
/image outrageous jumping government
@Jebbielax @mediocrebot Ok Meh, when are you selling worms?
@blaineg @Jebbielax @mediocrebot That’s natural organic home garden soil conditioner organisms, thank you very much.
Anyone else regret eating these the next day?
@jmkiii Why wait for the next day, when you can regret them immediately if you bought the ones that weren’t Sriracha flavored?
perennial-original-dirt - I am so excited! After 11 days I believe (not certain) that my edamame snacks have left Irving, TX. One can only imagine (neither Meh nor FedEx have any idea) that I will receive them prior to the rapidly approaching “sell by” date.
@KREE - Day 12 and still no indication from FedEx when or whether the package will arrive.
@KREE I was wondering if other people were having this issue. Mine stalled out in Kansas.
@KREE Day 14 and still no delivery. Exciting to note, however, that my edamame has moved from Irving, TX to West Virginia. I live in PA so this is considerable progress in the last two weeks.
@KREE Day 15 and the edamame snacks have arrived. They are a delight! Not to hard, not stale and with a delightful flavor.
@KREE Glad it was worth the wait! (And weight? )
They taste terrible. The flavoring sticks to your fingers and creates a slimy paste. Big mistake.