1 Fuku per house or 1 per person?
3I was fortunate enough to be 2 of the 259 orders before the crash. Somehow I beat their system to bypass the security manifold into the mainframe.
It seems like it has always been implied, but I don't recall seeing it anywhere that there is a limit of 1 per (something). I know you can only buy in quantity of 1, but I don't think that stops people from buying multiples of the max quantity on other days (nothing I have ever had to worry about, so I can't confirm).
Either way, it got me thinking. According to all of the forum whiners lately, it's not fair that I got 2 and they got none. Some would go as far as to say that Meh definitely doesn't care if the whiners are upset, it's what keeps them motivated to show up to work every day.
Well those of you who have fired up a "burn TaRDy and take both his FUKU's!" thread, have no fear, put out your fires. Meh has STOLEN (removed) my second Fuku. The audacity of them right? They went above and beyond to make one of the few happy customers last night, upset yet again. Ugh, get my pitchfork, lets go after @JonT!
In all seriousness though, I really would like to know:
What are the purchase limitation rules for these things?
I feel bad asking because I don't want anyone to lose a Fuku, but I saw elsewhere someone bragging that them and their wife both got a Fuku last night, so why does their household get 2 and mine can't?
I could pay the extra $5 shipping I saved from my VMP and get it sent to my GF who lives with me. Is that enough to qualify me to get 2 Fukus?
What is stopping me from making that second account that is for my "GF" or "insert fake housemate that can receive packages at my address here" and just logging in simultaneously with two devices and beating the rush to buy one on each? OK if you answered morals, you got me, but other than that what else is there?
Fuku me? Fuku YOU!
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nothing really, you just have to pay $5 for shipping on the other accounts, and you have to be fast, seeing as how 870 orders were placed in 145 seconds last night
For now the answer is pretty much just morals. The limit is one per account, but because a deluge of orders all came crashing in at once a few people managed to sneak in for two. Last morning we promptly canceled one from everyone that managed to get 2 on the same account (there weren't that many).
@JonT It's just sad knowing that I will never get my latest-rich-produce. Instead I am stuck with an eccentric-gory-mallard
@JonT I'm curious what happened to the ones that got canceled. Were some available briefly?
@TaRDy
@JonT Wait what? You cancelled a few? Any chance I could get one of those cancelled ones huh huh? I was timed out with my order processing right after 12am..... come on! You know you wanna!! ;) ;)
@christinerenee negative, ghost rider. Once we sell out, it's final. Cancellations do not make the sale come back up.
@JonT Oh well :)
@JonT So just to be clear, the official ruling is "1 per account" a single person could have as many accounts as they want and order as many as they wanted as long as they are ok being a selfish douchebag? Or is it really "1 per person" but you don't really have a to stop people from using extra accounts and aliases?
@metaphore definitely the second one, at least not an easy way that is currently implemented.
@JonT I think most got two on the same account by accident since when you get the green bar of reloading death after a while you refresh the page and try again unsure if whether or not you actually got one. If then with the same account you managed to get two wouldn't that be a meh error and not the buyer's error (I did not get two, but I was one of the lucky 259 club).
@Kidsandliz in this case it doesn't necessarily matter how it happened, we still want to limit it to 1 per account.
I like purple.
@Barney Are you not feeling well?? Second time I have seen you post "like" not "love" purple.
@JonT Hm? I was trying in several tabs refreshing the checkout page, so that when it came back up I would hopefully manage to get one in during the (probably very short) window that your servers would be up again. Two tabs went through, and then the third gave an error message, saying something like that I'd reached the limit of two. Why did it say that, if the limit was 1? (also, if you're not putting the sale back up, why cancel duplicate orders?)
@michabailey at the time it displays that error message, all it knows that you've purchased
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to the limit, not what the limit is -- so it just assumes however many you ordered is the limitI would hope that it wouldn't be limited to one per house. My son has his own account and his own VMP now that he's 18. Now he won't be stealing my speaker docks! Who am I kidding, the chances are just slightly less that he'll be taking my stuff.
@iluvmingos My 19 year old son has an account too. Neither of us got fukus this time, but we both tried.
I didn't get any, but was charged $10 and have another $20 pending charge on my credit card. Not sure what happened, but not worried. Yet.
@mossygreen Were you accidentally issued a refund for a past order? Happened to someone else, and the $10 was the recharge of the refund
@lichme Not to the best of my knowledge. The $20 charge is now posted. I suppose I could look through my history and see if there were any refunds. Anyway, still not worried. Wrote to support, not in any hurry. Thank you for the reasonable suggestion!
@JonT said " Once we sell out, it's final. Cancellations do not make the sale come back up."
So, if you manage to get two, you have essentially scored one for yourself and prevented somebody else from getting one. Congratulations. You're a world-class tool. Goat nominated.
@PocketBrain @jont is just stating the rules of meh. Last time, he sent out any leftover fukus to unsuspecting customers. Even @unixrab gets the premise of mehness! As for @tardy, kudos for even asking. Clarity on these policies is helpful for all of us. If you need someone to blame, it is @joelmw.
@mikibell Leftover Fukus? That changes everything! Well, almost everything. I still need a goat.
@PocketBrain To be fair, they were never leftover fuku's to begin with. They were site error extra fuku's that never were meant to be. So while he technically managed to order two, it wasn't really his fault in this case.
@MEHcus Fuku's don't exist, they are created when shipping 150,000 neoprene sleeves!
@Outofmymind Dang, we were really hoping that footage wouldn't get leaked.
@MEHcus I know:( I it is overused but it will forever remain awesome.
@Outofmymind oh, goodness, if you post something like that, you should post whether the person at the bottom of the pile is ok. Holey crap..
@mikibell that person died of neoprene inhalation - first meh.com casualty star on the wall - won't be the last.
@PocketBrain @mikibell
@mikibell It was $150,000 worth of Vodka. I'm sure he is fine.
@Outofmehmind Then I wouldn't mind being at the bottom of that collapse!!!
@unixrab I think you may be right.. 30 lbs of neoprene on it way to my house -- I might be the next casualty!! Thank goodness, @jont didn't add 10 more to my order.. ahh the benefits of lurking!
Would appreciate a limit of 1 per address. Know in some circumstances "that's not fair" - however it's also "not fair" to allow more than 1 per address as then we all know that many members will try to game the system if they can. would appreciate clarification.
@f00l seems like a non-trivial amount of work for an extremely trivial benefit. given that meh customers generally seem like a non-shitty bunch, a change like this would probably lock out more legitimate customers buying from the same house than it would alleged cheaters.
@Lotsofgoats have no idea how many legit vs not legit users would be locked out or how much work trivial or non-trivial - just an idea - for this kind of time sensitive lottery its going to suck and be unfair to lots and lots of people no matter how you set it up
@f00l I have to agree. Considering these are quite limited (even less Fukus than Bags of Crap), it would really be most fair to limit them to one per address. Although difficult with quantity and server constraints, someone could have different accounts on a computer, tablet, and phone and order three. That's really not fair when some very good customers aren't even able to get one.
@f00l @Lotsofgoats Even if they came up with the limit of 1 per address, people could always mail 1 to their work address, etc. I was just hoping to start the conversation and see how the powers that be felt about the situation. It's a difficult "problem" that doesn't have a clear one-size-fits-all answer.
@TaRDy @f00l yep, I find myself basically agreeing with both of you on a fundamental level here - there's an unfair situation that can be exploited if someone chooses to do so. at the same time, any "solution" is just a reassignment of the problem. that renders any designing and coding not-worth-it.
@f00l that would definitely crash the server. we'd have to index shipping address fields, which would be ridiculous.
@katylava I don't think it would have to be done at the moment of order placement. Duplicate address cancellations could be run the following morning to prevent yet another bottleneck.
@Cinoclav hmm, that's an idea. i'll keep it in mind if we ever decide to go that route. i don't think we will though.
although, people could put nonsense in address line 2 to get around it still.
@katylava I can see it now, the Third Meh War... first was east- vs. left-coasters, then k-badges vs. non-ks, and finally two-liners cheated by one-liners with the luxury of flubbing their second line!
@f00l I really think this would be a major waste of time for the coding crew. The amount of bags this could potentially free up is negligible at best and wouldn't significantly increase anyone's chances. There will always be a handful of people who game the system, even if you make this change, they will find a way around it. This would only end up hurting multi-mehrican households, not helping anyone.
@Thumperchick you're probably right. i just wanted to think about it for funzies.
@katylava Then you might need to just check line 1 and flag it for human review. With only 1100 or so Fukus being sold you shouldn't see very many with that issue.
@TaRDy If you shipped to your work address, and you had coworkers who also ship to their work address, you can see how a limit of one per address would have consequences. Maybe one per BILLING address... but probably not worth the effort to implement.
Two accounts at our house, one for me, one for him. But that was only for the Kickstarter.
I'm the only one meh enough for meh.com in this house.
I could have gotten more than one Fuku under my account, but I remember the last time time people got duplicates and the next day @JonT posted that they were being deleted. So, I didn't even try.
I live in an anarcho-syndicalist commune. Right now, I am the only one who has a Meh account, but it would be a shame if the other Brits living in our castle were restricted just because we share a same address.
@phatmass I'm inclined to agree with this. Roommates, kids, Gramma...if all extra members actually buy stuff other than the Fuku, they shouldn't be shut out of the opportunity for their chance to get one.
@lisaviolet it sounds like you are suggesting that you can't be a first time buyer to get a fuku....
@TaRDy Yes, it does, doesn't it?
Wow! I got a fuku added to my order! They must be giving them out to the poor bastards that are buying the power adapters.