Youāre not supposed to eat something youāre on first name terms with, according to Through the Looking Glass:
You look a little shy; let me introduce you to that leg of mutton,ā said the Red Queen. āAliceāMutton; MuttonāAlice.ā The leg of mutton got up in the dish and made a little bow to Alice; and Alice returned the bow, not knowing whether to be frightened or amused. āMay I give you a slice?ā she said, taking up the knife and fork, and looking from one Queen to the other.
āCertainly not,ā the Red Queen said, very decidedly: āit isnāt etiquette to cut any one youāve been introduced to. Remove the joint!ā And the waiters carried it off, and brought a large plum-pudding in its place. āI wonāt be introduced to the pudding, please,ā Alice said rather hastily, āor we shall get no dinner at all. May I give you some?ā But the Red Queen looked sulky, and growled āPuddingāAlice; AliceāPudding. Remove the pudding!ā and the waiters took it away so quickly that Alice couldnāt return its bow.
@Kyeh
Very true and I thought about that while asking the question ādoes anyone name their turkeyā. I certainly couldnāt eat one of our turkeys from the yard (when we had them) but just in fun calling our Thanksgiving turkey Loretta was something different.
I still just canāt believe more people donāt do itā¦ Oh wellā¦
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer I am reminded of the bit in Douglas Adamsā The Restaurant at the End of the Universe where the Dish of the Day introduces itself and makes recommendations of its best cuts.
I used to have a tradition of getting Chinese food every thanksgiving until I experienced someā¦ummmā¦gastric distress. Iāve not had Chinese food since.
@kittykat9180 If I did that every time something gave me a tummy ache, letās just say my doctor might be happy for me, but my taste buds would become very depressed.
@kittykat9180
I canāt remember if it is Christmas or Thanksgiving that no other restaurants are open. Thatās why I thought Chinese was an option, the ONLY option if you werenāt going to cook. Lol
Iām very grateful not to have stomach issues like my mom has gotten in the last few years. Sheās got to eat a very bland diet now and thatās not much fun. I was shocked to hear that she even had to give up chocolate! Oh, the poor thingā¦
@Lynnerizer my mom has had major digestive issues the last several years. I suspect she needs diet changes but my dad is too selfish to make adjustments to find the problem.
@kittykat9180
Oh no, thatās unfortunate. Hoping your dad has a change of heart and your mom gets what she needs. Iām sure itās very uncomfortable to be having those kinds of problems. My mom has been so much more comfortable now that sheās figured out what she can and canāt eat. Prayers for the both of them.
@Lynnerizer itās been 47 years of him selfishly neglecting the needs of his family for his own wants, I donāt think heāll change now.
It certainly impacts her quality of life. In the rare instances she takes a flight, she wonāt eat 24 hours prior so that she doesnāt have an accident during the flight.
I feel bad for her.
My mother used to tell me that sometimes that would happen when she was young. But they raise the turkey and butchered the turkey so that might be different
I remember a holiday meal at a cousin of my momās where they had a roast pig with an apple in its mouth. They kept referring to the pig as āGeorgeā.
@Lynnerizer we donāt name our turkey but we used to name our bacon seeds when we had pigs. I always found it so intriguing that we had friends that wouldnāt order sides from us because they didnāt like the idea that theyād known where it was raised. Itās so strange to me. They had the most amazing lives and were fed the best things! I get it if youāre a vegan and opposed to eating animals full stop. I just donāt get wanting to eat something wrapped in cling film on a styrofoam try that likely spent a good portion of its life shoulder to shoulder covered in the excrement of all its pen mates. But I guess Iāve always been a weirdo.
@sillyheathen
YES to free range!
I totally get it how much better fresh meat/poultry/fish is rather than the stuff that comes from the grocery store. Butā¦ with that being said I also totally get the other side of it! When I was little I refused to eat anything that was still in the shape of a animal, I just couldnāt stomach it! My mom would even try to fool me by filleting fresh fish and then pulling it out of the freezer and telling me she had just thawed it! It never worked! Lol Thank goodness I eventually grew out of it. Well, at least for the most part. I still donāt like seeing the striations of the meat on a turkey or chicken drumstick but it doesnāt keep me from eating it. How big was your farm and do you still have it?
Iām with @Kyeh, what the heck are bacon seeds? š«
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer I had six acres on an 80 acre farm. I had an acre of veggies. I also raised various heritage chickens. I mainly raised Black Copper Marans but also kept some blue layers and wound up getting super geeky with the egg color genetics. I also had a flock of bourbon red turkeys. I think I had three Toms and eight or nine hens. Then there were the French bresse which we raised for meat. All the birds had had half acre pastures that were subdivided so they always had fresh grass. We raised the pigs on a similar set up. We had hot fences but they had access to fresh pastures from their barn 24/7. I loved raising them. They were insanely smart and funny. We would give them huge batches of pulp and fruit from our pressing of plums, pears and apples. A few times they basically left them to ferment and got drunk off the spoils. It was pretty entertaining. I loved farming. The Englishman wasnāt as big a fan.
@Kyeh@sillyheathen
That is so cool! Wow, 80 acres, fun for all! What a great life that must have been! I would have loved to do the geeky color egg thing, what fun! Black eggs from the black marlins, right? Do they taste any different than regular brown or white eggs? I could have loved that life!
Jeez, we were elated when just one of our hens went broody and hatched her own clutch! Lol
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer Iāll have to see if I can find any pictures of their eggs. I got really geeky with the egg color genetics and breeding. It was pretty cool. My Marans laid between a 6-9 on the Marans scale. Some of my olive eggers laid the coolest green eggs. Some were truly olive or sage and then I had a gen that was probably 3rd gen and she laid eggs that looked fake. They looked like theyād be a marshmallow in a box of lucky charms. It was bananas. And honestly the birds were just funny. Even the turkeys were really friendly.
@chienfou@Kyeh@Lynnerizer we lived around the corner from the store they used for the feminist bookstore in NE Portland back in the day. I love Portland but it really is or was close to the show. Some people are so beyond mind boggling. Over all I would say people as a whole are really great here but a definitive smorgasbord of personalities. And we truly did have people like this come into the last restaurant we worked in. Granted we were known for sourcing all of our food as locally as was physically possible. It was hilarious having them ask if the pigs/chickens had names etc.
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@sillyheathen
happened to watch that episode of Portlandia years ago.
Thereās actually another bit, later in the show, where they go to the farmā¦
@chienfou@Kyeh@sillyheathen
Hmmm weird, what kind of show is thisā¦ Iāve heard of it (only the name not what itās about) but never watched it. Iām going to Google it now.
@chienfou@Kyeh@Lynnerizer it was so good! Dream of the 90s is absolutely alive in Portland. Though itās been a little stranger since Covid. Itās like the upside down pushed its way through.
@Kyeh@Lynnerizer@sillyheathen
Itās a sketch show. Generally each episode has two or three or more sketches some of which are started at the beginning and completed towards the end of the show. They come back to recurring themes so some of them will have recurring characters. It was very quirky and sometimes seems to be way over the top but was spot on a lot of other times.
Somehow it makes me think of this classic bar sign:
@Lynnerizer@mediocrebot Me nerd. ācfgā by itself is almost never available. The 83 is a number that is almost always available. 8.3 is the maximum size of DOS filenames, aka 12345678.123 .
Like I said, me nerd.
@cfg83@Lynnerizer Is it merely a coincidence that itās exactly 1 less than 42 doubled? Also, why am I hearing the sound of a whale falling from an extremely high altitude?
Me not being a nerd I had to dive deep here and I STILL feel like Iām floating around in outer space!
I learned a little bit about SFN. Then I went on to learn about The Hitchhiker series, Slartibartfast, Fjords and Magratheans and Iām not sure how I got there. Again, Iām NOT a nerd!
Jus sayenā¦ I too have never believed in coincidences!
@mediocrebot Oh well, I was expecting a robot to appear. Thatās ok. I could use the black and blue as my color scheme going forward, but I will have to think about it.
@cfg83 Yes thatās what I was thinking and the reason I went back and did it again without caps in the reply to my previous comment. I got some really good ones with real people when I did it on my own Meta AI.
@cfg83
This was the one I liked most ONLY because of the Mehtizens in the backpack, a variety of characters. Itās the biggest so called rabbit hole Iāve ever seen but some may find that fitting! Lol
@cfg83@Kyeh @sillyheathen
What do you mean by ādraw upā, sketching or making them on your 3D printer? Iām thinking 3D printingā¦
IF you made 3D ones you could do SO MANY different things with them! Yes, even MORE projects with ALL that spare time you mentioned! Iām picturing a diorama with crazy out of this world scenes.
@cfg83@Kyeh@Lynnerizer I was going to literally draw one up. I havenāt been doing much in the way of the digital design since Iāve been trying to finish the shop.
@cfg83@Kyeh@sillyheathen
Very cool! I have always been a sketcher but lately, even though I really want to and crave it, I just canāt pick up my pencil!
I think I must have a little depression. Hopefully Iāll snap out of it quickly! š«°
/giphy I think thatās just you
Dinner works for me!
Youāre not supposed to eat something youāre on first name terms with, according to Through the Looking Glass:
You look a little shy; let me introduce you to that leg of mutton,ā said the Red Queen. āAliceāMutton; MuttonāAlice.ā The leg of mutton got up in the dish and made a little bow to Alice; and Alice returned the bow, not knowing whether to be frightened or amused.
āMay I give you a slice?ā she said, taking up the knife and fork, and looking from one Queen to the other.
āCertainly not,ā the Red Queen said, very decidedly: āit isnāt etiquette to cut any one youāve been introduced to. Remove the joint!ā And the waiters carried it off, and brought a large plum-pudding in its place.
āI wonāt be introduced to the pudding, please,ā Alice said rather hastily, āor we shall get no dinner at all. May I give you some?ā
But the Red Queen looked sulky, and growled āPuddingāAlice; AliceāPudding. Remove the pudding!ā and the waiters took it away so quickly that Alice couldnāt return its bow.
@Kyeh
Oh wellā¦ 
Very true and I thought about that while asking the question ādoes anyone name their turkeyā. I certainly couldnāt eat one of our turkeys from the yard (when we had them) but just in fun calling our Thanksgiving turkey Loretta was something different.
I still just canāt believe more people donāt do itā¦
@Lynnerizer
Iād never heard of it - thatās pretty funny, I must say. As long as you donāt end up having a guest named Loretta, eh?
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer I am reminded of the bit in Douglas Adamsā The Restaurant at the End of the Universe where the Dish of the Day introduces itself and makes recommendations of its best cuts.
@Kyeh
Right!
I used to have a tradition of getting Chinese food every thanksgiving until I experienced someā¦ummmā¦gastric distress. Iāve not had Chinese food since.
@kittykat9180 Ditto for me too
@kittykat9180 If I did that every time something gave me a tummy ache, letās just say my doctor might be happy for me, but my taste buds would become very depressed.
KuoH
@kittykat9180
I canāt remember if it is Christmas or Thanksgiving that no other restaurants are open. Thatās why I thought Chinese was an option, the ONLY option if you werenāt going to cook. Lol
Iām very grateful not to have stomach issues like my mom has gotten in the last few years. Sheās got to eat a very bland diet now and thatās not much fun. I was shocked to hear that she even had to give up chocolate! Oh, the poor thingā¦
@Lynnerizer my mom has had major digestive issues the last several years. I suspect she needs diet changes but my dad is too selfish to make adjustments to find the problem.
@kittykat9180
Hoping your dad has a change of heart and your mom gets what she needs. Iām sure itās very uncomfortable to be having those kinds of problems. My mom has been so much more comfortable now that sheās figured out what she can and canāt eat. Prayers for the both of them. 
Oh no, thatās unfortunate.
@Lynnerizer itās been 47 years of him selfishly neglecting the needs of his family for his own wants, I donāt think heāll change now.
It certainly impacts her quality of life. In the rare instances she takes a flight, she wonāt eat 24 hours prior so that she doesnāt have an accident during the flight.
I feel bad for her.
@kittykat9180 Panda Express?
@werehatrack are they opened on thanksgiving?
It was a family owned place in Anaheim.
@kittykat9180
Youāve got my prayers. 
Oh jeezā¦ thatās sad. Iām sorry sheās dealing with that, you too!
@Lynnerizer thank you.
Iām somewhat partial to Foghorn Leghorn over Tom.
KuoH
No but the bord does the turkey dance every year in the sink as it is getting rinsed and having that bag removed
My mother used to tell me that sometimes that would happen when she was young. But they raise the turkey and butchered the turkey so that might be different
I remember a holiday meal at a cousin of my momās where they had a roast pig with an apple in its mouth. They kept referring to the pig as āGeorgeā.
@phendrick
/showme a smiling roast pig āGeorgeā with an apple in its mouth
@phendrick Oh geez. I couldnāt eat that/him.
@Kyeh @phendrick
Lol
He is SO CUTE, IDK if I could eat him either!
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @phendrick
At least it wasnāt Wilbur!
Well, Iām super surprised but I guess my family is pretty much alone on the naming of our turkey!
TBTā¦ my family has done a few things that I wouldnāt consider carrying on with. DONāT ASK!
@Lynnerizer
HAH!
Please inform us of all the crazy details.
@yakkoTDI
You are going to be sorry you asked for the crazy details! Iām not sure I know any other wayā¦ Lol
@Lynnerizer we donāt name our turkey but we used to name our bacon seeds when we had pigs.
I always found it so intriguing that we had friends that wouldnāt order sides from us because they didnāt like the idea that theyād known where it was raised. Itās so strange to me. They had the most amazing lives and were fed the best things! I get it if youāre a vegan and opposed to eating animals full stop. I just donāt get wanting to eat something wrapped in cling film on a styrofoam try that likely spent a good portion of its life shoulder to shoulder covered in the excrement of all its pen mates. But I guess Iāve always been a weirdo. 
@Lynnerizer @sillyheathen
@sillyheathen
My mom would even try to fool me by filleting fresh fish and then pulling it out of the freezer and telling me she had just thawed it! 
It never worked! Lol 
Thank goodness I eventually grew out of it. Well, at least for the most part. I still donāt like seeing the striations of the meat on a turkey or chicken drumstick but it doesnāt keep me from eating it.
How big was your farm and do you still have it?
YES to free range!
I totally get it how much better fresh meat/poultry/fish is rather than the stuff that comes from the grocery store. Butā¦ with that being said I also totally get the other side of it! When I was little I refused to eat anything that was still in the shape of a animal, I just couldnāt stomach it!
Iām with @Kyeh, what the heck are bacon seeds? š«
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer piglets/weaner pigs.
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer I had six acres on an 80 acre farm. I had an acre of veggies. I also raised various heritage chickens. I mainly raised Black Copper Marans but also kept some blue layers and wound up getting super geeky with the egg color genetics. I also had a flock of bourbon red turkeys. I think I had three Toms and eight or nine hens. Then there were the French bresse which we raised for meat. All the birds had had half acre pastures that were subdivided so they always had fresh grass. We raised the pigs on a similar set up. We had hot fences but they had access to fresh pastures from their barn 24/7. I loved raising them. They were insanely smart and funny. We would give them huge batches of pulp and fruit from our pressing of plums, pears and apples. A few times they basically left them to ferment and got drunk off the spoils. It was pretty entertaining. I loved farming. The Englishman wasnāt as big a fan.
@Kyeh @sillyheathen
What a great life that must have been! I would have loved to do the geeky color egg thing, what fun! 
Black eggs from the black marlins, right? Do they taste any different than regular brown or white eggs? 
I could have loved that life!
Lol 
That is so cool! Wow, 80 acres, fun for all!
Jeez, we were elated when just one of our hens went broody and hatched her own clutch!
Do you miss it?
@Kyeh @sillyheathen
Ah ha, piglets, the young ones! Weaners!
@Lynnerizer @sillyheathen That all sounds wonderful - but a LOT of work! I looked up those Blue Copper Maran eggs - how beautiful!
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer Iāll have to see if I can find any pictures of their eggs. I got really geeky with the egg color genetics and breeding. It was pretty cool. My Marans laid between a 6-9 on the Marans scale. Some of my olive eggers laid the coolest green eggs. Some were truly olive or sage and then I had a gen that was probably 3rd gen and she laid eggs that looked fake. They looked like theyād be a marshmallow in a box of lucky charms. It was bananas. And honestly the birds were just funny. Even the turkeys were really friendly.
@Lynnerizer @sillyheathen Iād love to see those!
@Kyeh @sillyheathen
Friendly turkeys now THATāS different!
@Lynnerizer
/image thanksgiving ice cream turkey
/image Friendlyās seasonal ice cream roll
@pakopako
ā¦
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen
makes me think of this bit
@chienfou @Kyeh @Lynnerizer we lived around the corner from the store they used for the feminist bookstore in NE Portland back in the day. I love Portland but it really is or was close to the show. Some people are so beyond mind boggling. Over all I would say people as a whole are really great here but a definitive smorgasbord of personalities. And we truly did have people like this come into the last restaurant we worked in. Granted we were known for sourcing all of our food as locally as was physically possible. It was hilarious having them ask if the pigs/chickens had names etc.
@chienfou @Kyeh @sillyheathen
I know too much about Colin now and I wouldnāt be eating him! Lol
Where or HOW did you happen across that?
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen
happened to watch that episode of Portlandia years ago.
Thereās actually another bit, later in the show, where they go to the farmā¦
Found it!
@chienfou @Kyeh @sillyheathen
Iāve heard of it (only the name not what itās about) but never watched it. Iām going to Google it now. 
Hmmm weird, what kind of show is thisā¦
@chienfou @Kyeh @Lynnerizer it was so good! Dream of the 90s is absolutely alive in Portland. Though itās been a little stranger since Covid. Itās like the upside down pushed its way through.
@chienfou @Kyeh @sillyheathen
Iām going to check it out. Thanks.
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen
Itās a sketch show. Generally each episode has two or three or more sketches some of which are started at the beginning and completed towards the end of the show. They come back to recurring themes so some of them will have recurring characters. It was very quirky and sometimes seems to be way over the top but was spot on a lot of other times.
Somehow it makes me think of this classic bar sign:
Iām afraid of appetizers you call Lady Fingers.
Why would I call Thanksgiving ābirdā? Itās called Thanksgiving for a reason. If I call it bird then no one will know what I am talking about.
/showme people looking at me with confusion when I smile and say āHappy Bird!ā.
@cfg83
Ha!
Thereās ALWAYS that one kidā¦
I gotcha!
/showme four people sitting, two on each side of cfg83 who is standing up, looking at them with confusion as cfg83 smiles and says āHappy Bird!ā
@mediocrebot @cfg83
What does the 83 in your username stand for, by any chance is that the year of your graduation?
@Lynnerizer @mediocrebot Me nerd. ācfgā by itself is almost never available. The 83 is a number that is almost always available. 8.3 is the maximum size of DOS filenames, aka 12345678.123 .
Like I said, me nerd.
@cfg83 @Lynnerizer Is it merely a coincidence that itās exactly 1 less than 42 doubled? Also, why am I hearing the sound of a whale falling from an extremely high altitude?
Slartibartfast
@kuoh @Lynnerizer There are NO coincidences, only probabilities.
/showme Dolphins plotting with white mice in lab.
@cfg83 @kuoh @Lynnerizer Iām not a fan of AI, but that picture is adorable.
@cfg83 @kuoh @Kyeh @Lynnerizer so long and thanks for all the fish!
@cfg83 @kuoh @Kyeh @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen
Got to love a guy who writes a four book trilogy
@cfg83 @mediocrebot
Me not being a nerd I had to dive deep here and I STILL feel like Iām floating around in outer space!
Again, Iām NOT a nerd! 
I learned a little bit about SFN. Then I went on to learn about The Hitchhiker series, Slartibartfast, Fjords and Magratheans and Iām not sure how I got there.
Jus sayenā¦ I too have never believed in coincidences!
I liked @kuoh take that 42 doubled is one less 83!
https://number42.nl/en/company/the-number-42/
@cfg83 @kuoh
āwhy am I hearing the sound of a whale falling from an extremely high altitude?ā
Maybe because I jumped down yet ANOTHER rabbit hole and I took YOU along for the rideā¦
Lol
@cfg83 @kuoh
/showme a girl jumping down a rabbit hole with people in the backpack that Iām wearing and with the word mehtizens on the backpack.
@pakopako I just realized that your showme, without prompting, portrays me as a robot. This gives me a replicant feeling. I wonder ā¦
/showme cfg83
@mediocrebot Oh well, I was expecting a robot to appear. Thatās ok. I could use the black and blue as my color scheme going forward, but I will have to think about it.
you-nerd.cfg is exactly 8.3
/Showme a girl jumping down a rabbit hole with people in the backpack that Iām wearing and with the word mehtizens on the backpack.
@Lynnerizer I think āShowmeā doesnāt work because itās capitalized. That picture looks like a parachutist ā¦
/showme a girl jumping off a plane with a parachute and with the word mehtizens on the parachute.
@cfg83 Yes thatās what I was thinking and the reason I went back and did it again without caps in the reply to my previous comment. I got some really good ones with real people when I did it on my own Meta AI.
@cfg83
Lol 
This was the one I liked most ONLY because of the Mehtizens in the backpack, a variety of characters. Itās the biggest so called rabbit hole Iāve ever seen but some may find that fitting!
@cfg83 @Lynnerizer Yikes! I hope she has a soft landing!
@cfg83 @Kyeh
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer Sheās gonna do a 180 roll near the bottom and let the Mehtizens take the squish. Thatās why she invited them along.
@Lynnerizer Into the void!
@cfg83 @Kyeh
OUCH!
Thatās harsh!
SHE might think like that but "Iā would NEVER!! 
Please donāt give my showme mean girl vibes!
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer Thatās ok, to me they look like cabbage patch humans up close, so they will just brush it off.
@cfg83 @Kyeh @Lynnerizer I was thinking more like garbage pail kids.
@cfg83 @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen That seems right.
@cfg83 @Kyeh @sillyheathen
Yes! I agree!
@cfg83 @Kyeh @Lynnerizer now I want to draw up a Mehtizens garbage pail kid card. Maybe I could make a whole series! With all that free time I have.
@cfg83 @Kyeh
Iām picturing a diorama with crazy out of this world scenes. 
@sillyheathen
What do you mean by ādraw upā, sketching or making them on your 3D printer? Iām thinking 3D printingā¦
IF you made 3D ones you could do SO MANY different things with them! Yes, even MORE projects with ALL that spare time you mentioned!
@cfg83 @Kyeh @Lynnerizer I was going to literally draw one up. I havenāt been doing much in the way of the digital design since Iāve been trying to finish the shop.
@cfg83 @Kyeh @sillyheathen
Hopefully Iāll snap out of it quickly! š«°
Very cool! I have always been a sketcher but lately, even though I really want to and crave it, I just canāt pick up my pencil!
I think I must have a little depression.
@Kyeh @Lynnerizer @sillyheathen No, donāt SNAP out of it!!! Find another way. Be careful what you say, Thanos may be listening ā¦
First thing that came to mind
@ybmuG The title of the thread makes me think of this:
