@kittykat9180 They’re within tolerances, and a bit tighter than some. The only grouse I have is that the open ends are a bit thin, which will automatically limit their usefulness on badly stuck or soft fasteners.
@speediedelivery I’d call them “nerd-focused’; the wrenches are decent quality, and the set covers the usual size range, but they are intentionally marked in a manner other than what’s customary. The one pictured at the top, pi/5, is a close approximation. Using engineer’s rounding of pi, it’s 0.628 on a wrench that’s sized for 5/8” (0.625")…
@narfcake I will note that Hazard Fraught has now added a “spare 10mm sockets” set to their Icon line, at the customary inflated price. Most people will get good service from their Pittsburgh line. The results of testing stuff from Icon have been reliably decent but decidedly mixed.
@narfcake@phendrick@werehatrack everyone knows the 10mm is in the last place you set it/dropped it. In a fendor/fold for the next guy down the road. It’s like give a penny/take a penny…
@phendrick@unksol@werehatrack I bought the Pittsburgh set a while back. Then bought it again when I couldn’t find them. A year and a half later, they were found. The whole pack was wedged in the gap between the hybrid battery and the rear seat.
I’ve actually only ever lost a single socket of my ~2005 USA made craftsman set. I don’t recall what size and they have been spread out for a year so may be tempting fate…
Someone kicked it while open and they rolled all over the maintenance shop I was borrowing. I almost caught them all. But one was lost to the aether.
Haven’t needed that size but have a deepwell anyway.
I did eventually find one out of the set that was not stamped with the size/markings. Like it just got missed.
Took it to sears and she was very helpful and we have these ones you can look through.
Couldn’t find the size and thanked her. well you can just take a new one off the wall.
Had to (sheepishly) admit yes I’m sure people like the new hi-Vis in a new set. But that one socket would stand out like a sore thumb and I will know what it was anyway cause it was the only one in the set… I’d rather keep my blank one to match.
Was apparently not the first time she has heard the matching set thing.
Have a huge mix of stuff now but at the time. When you’re limited on space. Raised on craftsman usa (rip) . One good box with all the sockets/rachets/wrenches and maybe that pipe over there… And that larger pipe that fits over this pipe…
Do these have standard markings as well or is that it?
Would make a great fun set for the gearhead in your circle of friends, but not something I’d want to reach for every day
@chienfou Well, yes and no. The back sides of some of the wrenches in the SAE set have the metric equivalent. The one that’s 12.7mm on the front is HALF on the back. For the one that’s “Nearly 8mm” on the front, the back has 7.94mm. For those of us who have had to sling wrenches for money, these equivalencies are pretty much hardcoded. Don’t have a 5/16" socket handy? Use 8mm. And vice versa, sometimes by preference. 5/8" works well on a slightly worn 16mm fastener. If a given 13mm nut accepts a 1/2" wrench, either it’s a crummy wrench or an undersized fastener, or maybe both.
@chienfou@werehatrack IF it turns “easily”. Meh. If it’s sloppy. You find the correct 6 point socket and hammer it on there so you don’t have a bad day. And then it snaps off anyway…
I object. The number Pi is not only transcendental but it and 5 are not commensurable, so Pi/5 is only wishful thinking, unless you are going for an infinite number of digits.
In laymen’s terms, apples and oranges.
I’ll entertain counter-arguments only if you first can provide me with the last 100 decimal digits of Pi.
I admit it
I smiled
The rest of the set is marked, in order: 2²/16, nearly 8mm, 96/256, 0.4375, 12.7mm, IX/XVI, 5.5/8, and tree/qrtr race cam.
@werehatrack For those in between sizes that even a monkey wrench won’t do.
KuoH
@kuoh See photo in next comment.
This one is from the other set.
Did you measure to ensure it was accurate?
@kittykat9180 They’re within tolerances, and a bit tighter than some. The only grouse I have is that the open ends are a bit thin, which will automatically limit their usefulness on badly stuck or soft fasteners.
@werehatrack
Grouse? Like the bird?
Fancy, specialized set? I have a hard enough time switching from metric to standard.
@speediedelivery
6mm = undersized 1/4"
7mm = oversized 1/4"
8mm = 5/16"
9mm = Fuck you, from Ford.
10mm = It’s missing.
11mm = 7/16"
12mm = undersized 1/2"
13mm = oversized 1/2"
14mm = 9/16"
15mm = 19/32". What, doesn’t every SAE bolt use that size?
16mm = 5/8"
17mm = almost a 11/16"
18mm = what you aren’t getting for buying the cheaper set.
19mm = 3/4"
@narfcake Yep, that tracks. Then add in the poor-quality bolts/nuts you are working and all bets are off.
@speediedelivery I’d call them “nerd-focused’; the wrenches are decent quality, and the set covers the usual size range, but they are intentionally marked in a manner other than what’s customary. The one pictured at the top, pi/5, is a close approximation. Using engineer’s rounding of pi, it’s 0.628 on a wrench that’s sized for 5/8” (0.625")…
@narfcake I will note that Hazard Fraught has now added a “spare 10mm sockets” set to their Icon line, at the customary inflated price. Most people will get good service from their Pittsburgh line. The results of testing stuff from Icon have been reliably decent but decidedly mixed.
@narfcake @werehatrack Yeah, I always have trouble finding the 10mm when I need it, so eagerly bought the set of spares from HF.
@narfcake @phendrick @werehatrack everyone knows the 10mm is in the last place you set it/dropped it. In a fendor/fold for the next guy down the road. It’s like give a penny/take a penny…
@phendrick @unksol @werehatrack I bought the Pittsburgh set a while back. Then bought it again when I couldn’t find them. A year and a half later, they were found. The whole pack was wedged in the gap between the hybrid battery and the rear seat.
/giphy facepalm
Oh, and the link if any mehmbers are wondering:
https://www.harborfreight.com/10-mm-metric-essential-socket-set-10-piece-58957.html
@narfcake @phendrick @werehatrack that is some talent.
You can skip the story. Having a moment.
I’ve actually only ever lost a single socket of my ~2005 USA made craftsman set. I don’t recall what size and they have been spread out for a year so may be tempting fate…
Someone kicked it while open and they rolled all over the maintenance shop I was borrowing. I almost caught them all. But one was lost to the aether.
Haven’t needed that size but have a deepwell anyway.
I did eventually find one out of the set that was not stamped with the size/markings. Like it just got missed.
Took it to sears and she was very helpful and we have these ones you can look through.
Couldn’t find the size and thanked her. well you can just take a new one off the wall.
Had to (sheepishly) admit yes I’m sure people like the new hi-Vis in a new set. But that one socket would stand out like a sore thumb and I will know what it was anyway cause it was the only one in the set… I’d rather keep my blank one to match.
Was apparently not the first time she has heard the matching set thing.
Have a huge mix of stuff now but at the time. When you’re limited on space. Raised on craftsman usa (rip) . One good box with all the sockets/rachets/wrenches and maybe that pipe over there… And that larger pipe that fits over this pipe…
Regardless I’ve never broke one.
Do these have standard markings as well or is that it?
Would make a great fun set for the gearhead in your circle of friends, but not something I’d want to reach for every day
@chienfou Well, yes and no. The back sides of some of the wrenches in the SAE set have the metric equivalent. The one that’s 12.7mm on the front is HALF on the back. For the one that’s “Nearly 8mm” on the front, the back has 7.94mm. For those of us who have had to sling wrenches for money, these equivalencies are pretty much hardcoded. Don’t have a 5/16" socket handy? Use 8mm. And vice versa, sometimes by preference. 5/8" works well on a slightly worn 16mm fastener. If a given 13mm nut accepts a 1/2" wrench, either it’s a crummy wrench or an undersized fastener, or maybe both.
@chienfou @werehatrack IF it turns “easily”. Meh. If it’s sloppy. You find the correct 6 point socket and hammer it on there so you don’t have a bad day. And then it snaps off anyway…
That did make me giggle so thanks!
Ok. Next question. Where did you get them?
@Cerridwyn https://carburetedinnovations.com/products/dingus-wrench-set
I object. The number Pi is not only transcendental but it and 5 are not commensurable, so Pi/5 is only wishful thinking, unless you are going for an infinite number of digits.
In laymen’s terms, apples and oranges.
I’ll entertain counter-arguments only if you first can provide me with the last 100 decimal digits of Pi.
@phendrick I intentionally noted an assumption that this involved the use of the engineering value of pi, 3.14. Ergo .628, close enough to 5/8.
The times I as a kid was called to go get a wrench or certain socket size while Dad was under the car.
Digging through them to find it cause the tiny stamping. Then it’s too loose/too rusted it needs .xxx so grab this mm socket.
I have the sizes/estimates pretty down. Very cool nerdy.
I also would not want novelty wrenches when I need them… Maybe TTC can have a geek week on pushy .
I mean we are all kinda geek anyway. Not sure on the testing pool since it’s just a stamp on any wrench
Unrelated, but not unrelated:
@werehatrack
Also, about 42 cents each in a 20 pack:
https://www.amazon.com/YXQ-Sockets-Point-Shallow-Socket/dp/B0DDSMY1PP/