@922lady Mehbe they should add a “Cry” button for these writeups.

@christinerenee Yikes, indeed. Or is he really mad at his creative writing prof who failed him for breaking the maudlin meter?

@christinerenee You know what’s sad? I came in here to ask if my brother wrote it. Substitute Marlboros for Benson and Hedges and that was written about my dad.

@christinerenee Historians have traced “It’s all fun and games until someone puts an eye out” back to moms in ancient Rome. I suspect dads have been telling their kids to stop heating the outdoors since doors were invented.

@koifish you mean like this:

@sparkyfarad Code allows a continuous load is only allowed at 80% of max load. So a 15amp circuit is required for a continuous 12amp load.

@sparkyfarad also what I wanted to ask about. You guys are sharp this morning.

@KDemo haven’t you heard? Globle warming is a myth

@Candiedisilvio1 - Perhaps, but global warming is a fact, not alternative.

@KDemo The great thing about science is that its still true whether you believe in it or not.

Maybe it is a myth. What if you’re wrong? Will your grandkids forgive you for making them the last generation before humans went extinct of our own making?

@mike808 One of my very favorite quotes. Neil deGrasse Tyson is my hero!

‘The good thing about science is that it’s true whether or not you believe in it.’

@KDemo “Science is whatever we want it to be” - Dr. Leo Spaceman

@westownsend You do know you’re quoting a fictional character from a TV entertainment show, right?

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” – Isaac Asimov

@westownsend Spa-che-mein!

@Candiedisilvio1 Fact it may be, but I’m more worried about White House press briefings, which now emit toxic fumes from Goebbels’ Warning.

@KDemo Except when it’s not: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-scientific-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-wrong.php But don’t worry, humans will kill themselves off long before warmth does.

@mike808 If you think I was seriously quoting Dr. Spaceman as some type of authority on any subject matter other than the location of the human heart, then I’m concerned that you have encountered people that actually believe TV doctors and I’m very very afraid :|

@westownsend I missed your snark indicator. It’s really hard to disambiguate snark from Darwinian levels of ignorance and synaptic deficiency these days. The fish rots from the head down.

@Kenbo And every one of those “articles” on the entertainment website you referenced as your authority has the same prelude or a variation of it:

"The more experiments that were performed using the (disproven theory X ), the more dubious it became as a theory. "

The problem with climate change deniers is that they offer no alternative better theory supported by the evidence, nor do they provide any experiment other than one where failure to prove their hypothesis results in extinguishing all life on the planet. I believe that is the very definition of hubris. And I’m not willing to bet my own or your descendents lives on it. The same consideration is all that the rest of humanity must insist upon.

@mike808 Look, all I’m saying is that scientists aren’t always correct. They would be the first to admit it (and yes, that can be entertaining - remember the whole “flat Earth” thing?). Even if the current global warming scientific theories are correct, and our behavior is contributing to global warming, you still have to remember that this is at least the fifth time the earth has experienced this phenomenon, with temperature variations that have resulted in no ice at all on the planet to the existence of ice all the way to the equator. All before humans were a factor. We might be able to accelerate it with our Hummers or slow it down a bit by reducing our cattle farms, but the Earth has already shown us that nature always corrects imbalances, and it will continue to do so until the sun explodes and swallows the planet whole. We’re just lucky enough to be along for the ride. If you REALLY care that much about your descendants, you ought to shift your political energy from the symptom we call global warming to the real problem of overpopulation. It is the cause of just about and any social symptom you can think of. I’d jump on that bandwagon with you in a heartbeat, regardless of what the scientists say.

@Kenbo I think our president, along with his collaborators, is working on just such a Final Solution and deciding, as our glorious supreme ruler, I mean president, which populations, exactly, will be deemed worthy of surviving the Great Culling/Cleansing.

You might have heard other names for this event, such as “The Rapture”, “Sharia Law”, “World War III”, or “The Second Coming”. A glorious and glowing future awaits the non-believers and beliebers alike!

So say we all! For Great Justice!

@mike808 Ah, yes - politics. The last of the great religions, which will surely destroy us all. In the meantime, I suggest we all sit around and enjoy some yummy marshmallows, toasted perfectly on the PureHeat 5100BTU Infrared Outdoor Heater.

@Kenbo No… hahah… no no no… Nope. Hahaha… no. Nope.

@Kenbo look at the angle of the curve. If you don’t trust xkcd, look up the average temperatures over time that you people love to reference.

@PantHeist If by “you people” you mean “people who question everything, regardless of how popular one argument may be,” then thank you for the compliment. Your chart is very cool - I’ve never seen it before, and I certainly cannot disagree with what it reports. I’m not really sure what your argument is, though, since I never said global warming doesn’t exist or isn’t exacerbated by humans. Your chart does kind of remind me of this one, though, which, as I said in my earlier post, shows the real problem:

@Kenbo Yeah, J curve is definitely a problem too.

@Kenbo YES! This! 8 billion times this!!! Our endless growth is simply unsustainable.

Crowded cities and the endless growth are contributing to a common RAGE in many people. Like being rats in a cage. Introduce a little bit of panic and watch the fireworks.

Even if we were all just pleasant as can be in the cities, there is a problem…

Throughout the ages, as the population exceeded that which the earth and our technology could sustain, a plague or whatever would come along and wipe out a good chunk of it. Now I know… we have more population now than during the (insert plague name here) time. Yes, because we have technology to help control the spread. Technology to grow more food per square foot. Eventually our tech won’t be able to control a plague or will hit a plateau of production output and we’re in big trouble. Our tech wll probably contribute to our own destruction (think, rapid global mass transit), reliance on a power grid not designed for the load, one drought year in the “bread basket”. Then we’ll get knocked back by a few billion people and start up again, probably with some religious / political leaders saying we need to hurry and repopulate the earth. Meh.

@Kenbo Without eugenics, genocide, or some natural catastrophe killing a bunch of humans, our population isn’t going to drop very quickly.

There are, however, things we can do to reduce carbon emissions and cull the effect that overpopulation has on the future of the planet. To say “we must reduce our population in order to solve climate change!” and ignore the things that are actually implementable, is not very helpful…

For example:

1. Move to electric vehicles and ships. This is, admittedly, a small impact; but research and success of these technologies opens doors for research into different parts of the energy sector, like…
2. Using cleaner energy, like solar, wind, and (gasp) nuclear. Oh, and if/when we get fusion figured out, we’re golden.
3. People could eat locally grown foods.
4. The planet could go vegetarian/vegan. This is actually a big one. Little known fact is that “an average family of four emits more greenhouse gases because of the meat they eat than from driving two cars.” The whole planet becoming vegan would reduce food-related carbon emissions by 70%. There would be a slew of economic issues that would have to be addressed if such a thing occurred, but it would be manageable. (source: http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160926-what-would-happen-if-the-world-suddenly-went-vegetarian)

There’s really not a lot we can do about overpopulation. We can implement insane policies across the planet (like China restricting numbers of offspring). Even then, it would take generations.

So why point your finger at the things we cannot control and instead focus on the things we can?

You know, for the greater good.

Oh, and for the record, I’m not vegan or vegetarian. Because meat is tasty and I’m not perfect.

HEY! Don’t stop now. You pseudo-intellectuals are entertaining.

@Mehrocco_Mole Hard to imagine a 1500w radiant heating element will be able to battle back the cold in all but the mildest temperatures, innit?

@joejoebells Maybe that’s a loss the world can live with? (People who choose to let their clothes catch fire)

@Zebra hahahahaha

@JT954 Depends on where in Florida you are. Right now it’s in the low 40’s. (P’cola)

I don’t know about that, @JT954… I live just north of San Diego, in what is arguably the best climate in the continental US… and I could definitely use an outdoor heater a handful of nights here (especially in our “winter”).

@Mehrocco_Mole yep. But at least it will be in the upper sixties here in Ferry Pass this afternoon. I haven’t had frost once this year.

@Mehrocco_Mole I used to spend a week early every year in P’cola, visiting my parents and going to the opera. I’ve also spent time there in the summer - I much preferred the January or February visits.

@awk you sure can

@Candiedisilvio1 You get Bluetooth when you turn it off.

That was such a bad pun, @mehcuda67, that I feel forced to give you a star

@mehcuda67
I see what you did there!

Now stop it.

@njd Sounds like the safety switch turns it off if you mount it on the stand and tilt it down in a useful direction. Engineering fail. Mehbe you can hack the safety switch so it turns on when it’s tilted. Or Mehbe that will cause everything to be devoured in said hellish inferno. Life is full of hard choices.

@ELUNO S’more’s maybe?

@PenguinOnTheRox With propane accessories?

@Kidsandliz at least where the extension cord is lying after it heats up from the draw of the heater…

@connorbush 4 real

@RiotDemon Are you trying to get rid of them in favor of electric? Those propane heaters are great!

@djslack I don’t need twelve of them though

@RiotDemon I’d love one if you lived nearby. Great for outdoor vending in cold months.

@moondrake I live in Florida, so somehow I doubt you live nearby. Not much use for them here, which is why I have so many.

@RiotDemon I’m visiting Florida in March but I’ll be flying.

@RiotDemon I see. I can’t imagine many people would need that many. If you want to sell one or two of them, my username at gmail will reach me. Don’t know how much of a pain they will be to ship/if it would be worth it, but can’t hurt to find out.

@RiotDemon Do they put off a lot of CO?

@djslack I’ll see if I can’t measure the boxes and weigh them. Might not be worth it to ship them.

@PantHeist some. They’re meant for outdoors.

@RiotDemon Damn, figured. Thanks anyway.

@wickhameh This gif is green…SUPERGREEN! It pop pop popped! (sorry, big fan of this criminally underrated movie, could you tell?)

@wickhameh Is that Russell Westbrook?;)

@actionjbone man, second item in a week that doesn’t fit together properly? Slacking meh.

@Felyne stinky fire pit? is that the name of your order?

@umbrellacorp no, just what happens when my neighbours smoke comes into my bedroom at night Great for asthma.

@wickhameh didn’t work…

@werekong Hmmm…really loooong extension cord? One of those little 12v battery jumper packs and an inverter? Solar panels sewn into your ski jacket…?
Just sayin’

@chienfou Solar panels good idea, but then this heater probably wouldn’t be necessary and I could see that the extension cord could be a problem going down the hill …might hang/trip myself.

@bigtom67 when I was a kid working at a Phillips 66 gas station in the early 80’s we had the same wall heater. The elderly white german shepherd watch dog that had arthritis and lived in the office had big brown scorched spots on his sides from leaning against it. He smelled like scorched hair too.

@bigtom67 I remember when I was a kid in the 40’s… Never mind…

@grum, unfortunately that won’t work. When you give power to this thing, it goes into standby mode. One has to use the controls to make the heat turn on. So, when you thermostat kicked in to turn on the heater, it would just be in standby. Perhaps you could bypass the control circuit to make it turn on whenever it gets power, though.

@gerardmeh On the first post of every product’s thread in the forum, there is a link to the warranty information for that deal. Usually it is the manufacturer, although sometimes Meh does the warranty for the product.

I hope the manufacturer gets your heater taken care of before it’s too warm to need it any more.